Am I going to be alright getting a job?

Some backstory, I'm a 19 year old girl and I moved to my dad's house, unaware of the living situation, and it turns out he lives in the literal ghetto. I eat fast food every day because I refuse to eat food cooked there, because their stove is completely covered with some kind of rust-looking filth and they don't do dishes, and while I'm going to go get my meal, there are tons of sketchy looking figures just hanging around. They'll often watch me as I walk, and will sometimes hit on me. There's even this guy that will often pull me over and try to get me to come with him. I don't want to be here, so I know I need a job. I'm a drawfriend and get a decent amount of commissions when I have them open, but I know that's not gonna suffice. There's a Dollar General I frequent, and the employees there know and like me, so I could probably get a job there, but it's smack dab in the middle of where these people like to gather. Do you think I'll be alright? Robberies are a frequent thing around here, and I don't want a gun shoved in my face. Anyone have experience working in the ghetto that could tell me whether or not I'll be safe?

What city are you in? I might be able to find some specific information. You might get your dad to walk you to work and pick you up, or get one of the other workers to carpool you there and drop you off at home if you pitch in for the gas. At home, you don't want to be stuck being the fuarrrking maid if they won't do chores. But living off fast food is going to wipe out your savings and your health. I'd clean the stove and empty the dishes from the sink into a bag or box and stick it in the laundry or something, and just use one cup, one bowl, one plate and one set of cutlery for yourself and clean as you go. In the meantime, I've got some books on personal safety you might find useful. I'm a lifelong martial arts nut, but honestly? Buy a gun. As for pepper spray, tasers, extendable batons, personal alarms? Buy a gun. Buy a gun, learn how it works, and plan your day so you shouldn't have to use it.

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Ghettos usually aren't as dangerous as people make them out to be. Just don't look like a cop, don't look like someone with money, and don't get involved in any crime and nobody will do anything to you. If you work in the dollar general and it does get robbed, just give the robber whatever they ask for and you'll be fine. The robber doesn't want to get more of LE's attention by killing someone. You could also ask the dollar general employees how often the place gets robbed. If your goal is to save enough money to move out of the ghetto, I personally would aim to get a job that's outside of the ghetto, if feasible. That way, when you do get enough money to rent an apartment elsewhere, you're not going back to the ghetto every day for work.

>>6781 Why can't you just clean the kitchen?

>>6782 The problem with weapons and martial arts is they come with a huge amount of liability. Using them properly means seriously hurting someone and if you're unlucky, you might be the one to go to jail, not the person who attacked you. You don't always get the opportunity to use them either. I don't know about the US but in London what typically happens they pull up to you on a moped, throw acid in your face and take your soykaf. Having a gun won't help you in any way. My experience is stay mobile. When I was a kid I never went anywhere after dark without a bike. All you have to do is pretend you didn't hear anything and keep moving. Even niggers who have bikes too will only chase you so far. >You might get your dad to walk you to work and pick you up, or get one of the other workers to carpool you there and drop you off at home if you pitch in for the gas. This is my other experience, surround yourself with people, preferably males. It is like kicking dead whales down the beach if you're in a new environment and have no friends but you still have family and future coworkers. >I refuse to eat food cooked there, because their stove is completely covered with some kind of rust-looking filth and they don't do dishes Start thinking about what you can do for other people. If you clean and cook you can then ask for help getting a job and/or help getting there safely. If you act like an entitled princess then no one is going to do soykaf for you unless they expect to fuarrrk you afterwards.

As someone whose job is working with weapons and security, I would recomend you look at what is allowed in your particular area. Additionally, look at the area specific threats to ehere you are. as >>6784 pointed out, try to not make yourself a target. some simple tips to do this are >not getting distracted by music in headphones >using headphones with no music to deter conversation/engagement >not dressing flashy or in something that will attract attention (look up "grey man techniques") as >>6790 points out, remaining mobile is your best bet. for a 19y/o female, you likely wont be able to defend yourself effectively against a larger male, especially if drunk/on drugs (common where I live) as a result, your best bet is to avoid people/ situations that may cause you harm. if you absolutely need to defend yourself, and cannot avoid a situation. your options will likely be limited to >OC/pepper spray-5$ although painful and usually effective, you have several drawbacks: >accidentally spraying yourself/getting tacked by someone who is sprayed/spraying into a windy area can end up causing you to suffer >some people are immune to it (especially if under the influence of narcotics and alcohol) >training can eliminate the effectiveness (i can effectively fight in hand to hand/ shoot targets with pepper spray in my eyes there are several types, gell type sticks, and the alcohol based type may have reduced effectiveness >you can also look at a baton, 25-50$ which may or may not be illegal (these can kill and break bones) and require some training. drawbacks are the legality, and your ability to effectively use it. also if you do hit someone in the head and kill them, you can face possible criminal charges for using a deadly weapon. >Tasers/stun gun - a few to several hundred $ another one of questionable legality. these are easy to use, but the drawbacks are sometimes that are not overly effective, and you might get somebody to draw a (deadly) weapon if they feel threatened. >knife DONT USE THIS.... JUST DONT you probably have no idea how to knife fight, and a big risk, especially for a smaller individual is having the weapon turned against them. Traveling in numbers works, but that can be a problem if you don't know anybody/live among foreigners who no speak the language I also live in the ghetto (and I learned the languages all my neighbors speak), and I typically only leave my house to go to the store. also a hot plate costs like 10$ and plugs into a wall outlet, and you can buy plates for 1$ and forks for about the same. and fast food is bad for you... I guess since 19 if you are in the USA, you could get a black powder revolver if you really wanted to legally a gun, but that's more of a joke

>>6795 >black powder revolver >not wanting to pop caps in a few asses gangsta style with a LeMat

Guys. Recommending martial arts or weapons is a bit irresponsible. Obtaining a weapon, or spending a month on a martial art does not make you capeable in defending yourself. In fact, what I've seen, is people misusing their defensive tools without mastery. Do not assume that someone who has spent years, lets say, street fighting, will still be far above in skill in combat than assuming a martial art or taser will be enough. We mistake street fighting as undisciplined, but experience in urban combat still makes a much more formidable opponent than a marginally trained martial artist. Also martial arts that are usually taught are usually for sport, unless you specifically go for a combat art. Toeing the political and social situations is probably best. As for whether op will be safe or not, that's not an answer anyone can give you. Id ask, why are you there? Do you have any other options? Are you on the lease? (this allows you to call the cops and trespass anyone you odn't want despite your father's protests.)

>>6797 >Do not assume I meant to say, DO not assume that simple martial arts training or having a weapon as a novice will beat someone who has had years of street fighting experience (or bar fights)

>>6797 >tl:dr weapons are only as good as their wielders kicks to the groin seem to work quite effectively if you have no other options imo

>>6781 Get the fuarrrk outta there and get a job in good area, you are already 19 ffs

>>6787 Because she is a modern independent woman who happen to live with her dad in a ghetto.

>>6797 >Guys. Recommending martial arts or weapons is a bit irresponsible. *teleports behind you* heh, nothing personal kiddo

>>6797 Who exactly recommended martial arts? Are you saying it was me? I linked three books, one on negotiation, one on thumb-in-the-eye hit-and-run gutterfighting and evasion, and one on personal safety and using a gun.

I would focus in the long term on getting out of there entirely.

>>6871 Eating out is a drain on your finances. You should eat at home. Even if the stove is dirty, cooking the food well will remove any pathogens. Also, if no one else is willing to wash dishes, you should take it upon yourself to do so for your own sake.

ITT sheltered middle class girl sees real world and it made her feel a bit bad. >their stove is completely covered with some kind of rust-looking filth Clean it? >they don't do dishes Do them yourself? >They'll often watch me as I walk how horrible! Typical men, having eyes. Jokes aside, >Do you think I'll be alright? probably, I understand it's a jarring transition but you'll adjust quickly, don't take soykaf from people. Don't let your boss fuarrrk you around because they will try. Research labor laws and things like that. >tell me whether or not I'll be safe? you probably will be safe, even if you do get robbed chances are you won't actually be shot as long as you aren't a complete retard.

>>6797 >DO not assume that simple martial arts training or having a weapon as a novice will beat someone who has had years of street fighting experience (or bar fights) As said >>6805 I don't think anyone is talking about fighting per se. Self defense is more about knowing how to gorge someone's eyes and evade their grip long enough to run away with your life, not to knock people out with fancy kicks like the movies. And the problem with weapons is that serious attacks will be either completely unexpected (like from behind) or develop from socially ambiguous situations (such as someone asking you for the time). You can't point your gun at every person you pass in the street and by the time someone is actually threatening you it will be too late.

If OP had said 14 instead of 19 this thread would have made a lot more sense. I don't understand how one could afford fast food every day but be forced to live in a ghetto. On the other hand, people scoffing at the idea of a lone female being scared walking down the street in a place like that have never lived in that kind of neighbourhood or likely even visited one.

>>6781 Eating out every day, even fast food, is a significant expense. If you want to save up and move out you should definitely look into buying some SOS pads or other cleaning products and spending a day getting the kitchen into livable condition. Even if you refuse to do dishes and just buy paper plates to eat off of, it'll be significantly healther and significantly cheaper in the long run than buying fast food every day.

>>6816 I'm getting the impression that OP doesn't know how to cook either. The force or spidey sense or something is telling me this.

I've got some getting-by-on-a-budget type manuals, too. Did OP died?

>>6820 I think OP came looking for sympathy and is disappointed

>>6821 oh soykaf is that what we were supposed to be doing? I feel bad now.

>>6781 Clean up the kitchen, and learn how to cook some basic stuff. You're pissing your money away if you're really eating fast food for every meal. Vinegar and baking soda work well as simple solvents, although I'm sure you can find some more powerful oven cleaner at a store. Steel wool pads work wonders, as well. Do the dishes by hand in the sink. If they don't have a drying rack/pad, buy one. I work at a Dollar General. It's chill, but mostly because my manager is a cool dude. Upper management can be a bit soykafty.

>ghetto LMAO, imagine being American in current year Back to subject For cleaning I'd recommend going to local store, reading contents of stove/metal cleaning solutions, and then buying their active ingredients in bulk for much cheaper price (this is a general advice to all people out there, most of that stuff in colored bottles like Mr Clean is heavily diluted acids with a bit of perfume and colors for 50 times the price). It would probably be some kind of strong acid or alcale depending on application. The "rust-looking filth" is simply just dried out fat, unless it's really rust which is unlikely since most stoves are stainless or enameled. Get a few pairs of gloves, sponges, scrubbers, don't use steel wool on enamel or ever use it. Acids can do the job better. Wash your dishes and make those fuarrrkers wash theirs. Learn to cook simple meals, make sandwiches and tea for takeouts, lrn2 bento. >males giving advice to woman on how to do the kitchen chores

>>6833 Porcelain enamle (the coating on most stovetops) cannot be damaged by steel wool, see https://cooking.stackexchange.com/a/6909.

>>6833 >males giving advice to woman on how to do the kitchen chores Today's women in general are fuarrrked...lol

>>6836 I wouldn't call OP a "woman" but it's not her gender I'm questioning. Woman implies "adult", and some people aren't at 19. I don't know what the female equivalent of manchild is but womanchild doesn't ring right.

>>6837 >I wouldn't call OP a "woman" >Woman implies "adult", and some people aren't at 19. Where are you from? Do you even realize women mature very early, then most boys and yes, I am comparing women with boys because to become a woman it takes nothing, you just have to hit puberty. On the other hand to become a man you gotta have certain qualities like being the provider, the protector, be brave and understand true values.

>>6846 i met a "woman" who was an 18y/o mother today, legally he is a woman, but intellectually she was no better than a child with a child. its really a thin line. biologically, males dont finish developing until around 25 anyway, even though at 18 they are considered "mn" and can vote/serve in them military and make adult decisions the whole concept of maturity is a nurture over nature struggle, and unfortunately the "nurture" of social media and an expendable consumer society had reduced the ability for independent thought and action (aka maturity)

>>6847 >just to clarify, it was a she (female) not a he... my S keydid not work

>>6846 Try to refrain from using snarky comments such as >>6836 because they're not adding anything to the discussion. You can start a gender politics threads but don't derail other threads it's not nice

>>6849 Duly noted. >>6847 >the whole concept of maturity is a nurture over nature struggle I think it comes down to how well you understand a situation and can handle it without throwing tantrum on everybody. >the "nurture" of social media and an expendable consumer society had reduced the ability for independent thought and action (aka maturity) It depends on how seriously you take the Internet.

To get back on track, tl;dr OP shows signs of signs of entitlement and immaturity by wanting to do work for strangers in exchange for money but refusing to clean dishes for family?

>>6859 Don't mean to go all devil's advocate on OP, who can't even commit to respond to her own thread on a board, but we don't know the scenario here. There may be some other woman, maybe stepmom, who is supposed to be responsible for their home, and will take as a personal attack if OP starts cleaning around or trying to change what they're accustomed to in the house. I've been on similar situations, specially in what concerns working class people, and it's not easy. I did manage to put stuff in order, but it took some very delicate diplomacy over a long time.

>>6868 All of this would be more relevant if she didn't say "19". Although part of me thinks this is actually a clever troll who knows that all it takes to start poopstorm on an imageboard is to say you're female and under 25. Between lonely dudes who get wet over anyone female being in their nerdspace and loser MRA incel types who have the exact opposite response, zany antics are sure to ensue.

>>6796 >pop off six shots and miss >gangsta g thinks I'm out and closes in for the kill >Let loose with the shotgun barrel THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN

>>6797 >We mistake street fighting as undisciplined, but experience in urban combat still makes a much more formidable opponent than a marginally trained martial artist. Most forms of fighting are optimized for specific environments against people fighting with the same style. boxing vs boxing in a ring judo vs judo on a mat street fighting vs street fighting on the street Yes a boxer fighting a "street fighter" on the street is going to have a bad time (kick in the knee then a head stomp?) But the street fighter would get the soykaf kicked out of him in the ring. So your observation that person skilled in fighting on the street has an advantage over person skilled in fighting not on the street is not very profound.

>>6875 >the street fighter would get the soykaf kicked out of him in the ring ...if he agreed to abide by the rules of boxing and not use illegal kicks or holds or what-have-you. Boxing is a sport, not a self defense technique. In fact, most martial arts are more art than martial, and are full of all kinds of rules like "no grabbing the other guy by his clothes", "no kicking", "no strikes to this area of the face", "no weapons" etc. They aren't really designed for practical use. The exceptions would probably be military martial arts that soldiers get trained in like Krav Maga or whatever the one US Marines use. There are no expectations that you'll only ever be against fair opponents with the same rules and equipment, and they train in stuff like "how to deal with someone who has a knife/gun" on top of just fist-fighting. Of course, it's very telling that the first technique they teach is "just go along with it, give the guy your wallet, and don't resist", because fighting is really a worst-case last-resort option in those kinds of situations.

>>6877 >...if he agreed to abide by the rules of boxing and not use illegal kicks or holds or what-have-you. Fair enough but there is a caveat to no rule free-for-alls; they're dangerous. One mistake on the street and you are in hospital, jail or the morgue. That makes it difficult to practice and gain meaningful experience. So even though the rules of martial arts limit a person, they also allow a way to build up experience without risking everything in each fight.

>>6878 >...if he agreed to abide by the rules of boxing and not use illegal kicks or holds or what-have-you. Anyone how has actually done martial arts knows you are only as good as the people you train with. Considering street fighters basically just beat up people who are intoxicated or smaller than themselves, I would bet on the boxer regardless.

>>6873 Nine shots and the shotgun barrel, actually. LeMat is ridonculous.

>>6781 I live in "the ghetto". Nobody is going to give you problems if you mind your own business. There is only one bad thing about the ghetto, and that is that there is no shortage of losers here. Don't let them influence you into making soykafty life decisions. Out of all the fuarrrkups I've seen here, it basically boiled down to drug addiction or knocking up a woman/getting knocked up and then being stuck in child support hell. If you can avoid those two things, you're set for life. The ghetto is great if you can keep your head in the right place. It's cheap because of all the sensitive people who would rather pay double to be surrounded by office drones (who are assholes just as much as blue-collar workers, they are just better at hiding it). It gives you a chance to save money which can be invested into education, which you can then one day use to get a decent job and go live somewhere more pleasant. I'm not moving though. I go on awesome holidays and have cash to spare for retirement. Anyway, it's your life. Just stop complaining and take responsibility.

>>6815 >I don't understand how one could afford fast food every day but be forced to live in a ghetto. Amerilards who can't into Dave Ramsey

>>6859 >>6868 I don't think OP is being unreasonable. If she's not using the dishes, she shouldn't be doing the dishes, unless that was the terms of her living arrangement, but there isn't any evidence to suggest that. Not wanting to live in the ghetto is also reasonable, as is being hesitant about working in a store in a ghetto where stores get robbed a lot. Additionally, "entitlement," to me, would be, "I shouldn't have to live in a ghetto," whereas OP is saying, "I don't want to live in the ghetto, but I don't make enough money right now, so I'm going to get a job. Do you think this specific job is safe enough or should I look else where?" >who can't even commit to respond to her own thread on a board Maybe she got killed in a drive-by. >>6892 About half of my high school economics class was my teacher sucking Dave Ramsey's dick and telling us about how he's saved up a million dollars on a public school teacher salary by following Dave Ramsey's advice for about a decade. Easily one of the most useful classes I had in high school.