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Please assist me with this

飛翔 ルーラー · 2017-12-26 01:07
checklist of things to do in order to become a resident in japan 1. find out how much a plane ticket to japan costs. (check) 2. learn by what means do you perchase a plane ticket once obtaining the money. 3. find a job that will support plane ticket fee. 4. learn japanese fluently. 5. learn japanese culture, customs, history and social norms. 6. establish a job and place of living in japan and how to obtain them before going. checklist to follow once getting there 7. study for citisenship test. 8. take citisenship test. 9. repete 7 and 8 until passing citisenship test. 10. renounce american citisenship in order to be allowed japanese citisenship. 11. marry japanese woman in case of continous failure at citisenship test. list is subject to change answers 1. around $500. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. get a house in edogawa, house should cost around ¥42,800,000. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11.
Drano · 2017-12-26 01:54
>>6367 You don't just need a job, you need a career. You need a level of training and expertise that some Japanese company actually sees fit to hire you from overseas instead of picking up a random kid off the Japanese street. If you think the stumbling block here is needing to save up $500 for the plane ticket by working the register at McDonald's, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the requirements. Look up what a visa is, and figure out what the requirements are to get one for permanent residency in Japan.
Hitomi · 2017-12-26 02:12
I thought English teacher was the standard job for foreigner in Japan ? I wonder if there is much demand for a French teacher, and/or if they would accept a non-native speaker as an English teacher ...
Armitage · 2017-12-26 02:42
As said above, you need a career not a job. You need to get a university education in something sought after like medicine or science. Easier than that is to become an English teacher but you still need a degree for that as well.
Cypher · 2017-12-26 02:49
>>6369 Working as an English teacher works if you want to live in Japan for a year or three, but it's not a lifetime career.
Hacker · 2017-12-26 07:32
>>6367 >establish a job and place of living in japan and how to obtain them before going Not specifically interested in going to Japan myself, but I quite often think about moving to another country and one thing I always wander is this. How can one manage to find somewhere to live before going, in case of moving to a place far way? I mean, if you've plenty of money you can stay on a hotel or similar until you find something, but if that's not the case how can one go about finding relevant info about neighborhoods and what are good places to live in, so you don't get something blindly. And even then, once you know enough, how can you actually get a place?
Yet Another Lainon · 2017-12-26 11:31
>>6371 Why not ? Do they not keep you more than a few year ? Or does it earn to little money ? Or do they not give you citizenship with that job ?
Roger Pollack · 2017-12-26 13:52
I think what >>6368 said is correct. One reason why Japanese society is so homogeneous is because they have strict immigration laws. You typically need a college degree and be a professional to live there. It's not like Europe where you can just turn up and get a minimum wage job delivering pizza and mooch off the state. You should also look into the Japanese Language Proficiency Test. There are 5 levels, from what I've seen companies typically want you to pass N2 before they will hire you. The exam is every 6 months, so that's at least 2 years of exams. Be aware that Japanese culture is radically different to the west. Many people who move there end up regretting their decision. From what I hear it is very racist. Even if you pass your citizenship test you will never be Japanese. And crime is so low that law enforcement are chronically board and will harass you endlessly for having white skin. It may be an idea to go on holiday first, or try living there for a few months before going all in. http://blog.uchujin.co.uk/2017/07/death-thousand-cuts-1-year-later-series/ >11. marry japanese woman in case of continous failure at citisenship test. How is this bottom of your list? Lain is disgusted by your priorities.
飛翔 ルーラー · 2017-12-26 14:42
>>6378 >Lain is disgusted by your priorities. Sorry
Chan Siu Ming · 2017-12-26 14:45
>>6378 You must be joking. I'm have a olive skin (Brazilian) and live in Nagoya for ten years as a factory worker. The only xenophobia you will see will be in the cities of the interior, by the way, I don't recommend you go there, because their accent is totally different from traditional Japanese. Also, if you are extremely tall, as is my case, prepare to suffer.
Morpheus · 2017-12-26 15:27
>>6381 >You must be joking. I get my information from blogs like the one I linked. If you have first hand experience which is different then please elaborate. >I'm have a olive skin (Brazilian) and live in Nagoya for ten years as a factory worker. I believe South Americans have special privileges. It is not the same for citizens from other countries. https://www.jlist.com/blog/your-friend-in-japan/gaijin-workers-in-japan/
Eldon Tyrell · 2017-12-26 22:21
>>6383 >I believe South Americans have special privileges. >It is not the same for citizens from other countries. >OP live in USA.
Pris · 2017-12-27 02:33
>>6383 >I believe South Americans have special privileges >says while linking a blog post that specifies that you have to prove to have jap heritage in order to get a visa Also >South Americans >Having special privileges anywhere We don't even have special privileges in our countries.
Bob Arctor · 2017-12-27 13:33
>>6387 >>6388 Comon guys there is a whole Wikipedia page dedicated to this. >The legislation of 1990 was intended to select immigrants who entered Japan, giving a clear preference for Japanese descendants from South America, especially Brazil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilians_in_Japan The point is that you are in a privileged position and presumably live and work in Brazilian ghetto so your experience may not be consistent with other foreigners in Japan that's all.
Unspecified · 2017-12-27 15:14
>>6404 Most Brazilians that living in Japan are descendants of Japanese immigrants in Brazil.
Rick Deckard · 2017-12-31 02:56
>>6383 Brazilian user reporting in, that's something I have already heard about, and believe me, here we have a lot of Japaneses, in Sao Paulo we have a Japanese neighborhood, that is not small, by the way. So it's interesting for both countries have this kind of agreement, I think. And this is the unique especial privilege a Brazilian will have, everything else here is a soykaf.
Hitomi · 2018-01-10 18:42
>>6378 >The workplace presents another insidious annoyance born of Japan’s age based (as opposed to merit based) hierarchy and institutional xenophobia. >Everyone older and more senior must always be referred to by their surname and the honorific “San”, Suzuki San translating as Mr. (or Ms) Suzuki. This is a hard rule, no younger staff member would dare to call Mr (or Ms.) Suzuki by his/her first name when anyone else was present and if he/she did, the consequences would not be pretty. >At every place I ever worked, however, I was always referred to by my first name “Adrian” or at best “Adrian San” even by much younger staff members. He must be joking. Of course they refer to him as Adrian-san, if he writes his name as Adrian Storey, not Storey Adrian... That's not Japanese xenophobia, that's his own ignorance. Not even going to start with the fact that same rules apply to most Germanic and Slavic languages.
Eldon Tyrell · 2018-01-10 18:58
>>6582 >He must be joking. Of course they refer to him as Adrian-san, Your response does not match the text you are quoting. >At every place I ever worked, however, I was always referred to by my first name “Adrian”
Spooky · 2018-01-10 19:28
>>6375 In some cases your employer who is also securing your work visa will help with this stuff. Otherwise, people generally move to a new country where they already have friends and relatives; not to go someplace that makes nice cartoons and which westerners have inflated ideas about how hot the local girls (or boys) are.
Bob Arctor · 2018-01-10 19:55
>>6583 If he told them "my name is Adrian Storey", most of the Japanese will assume that Adrian is a family name and Storey is his first name. The same idea when westeners see Hatsune Miku and assume that Hatsune is first name and Miku is surname. He doesn't even say if he asked any of them to call him by his surname, which leads me to believe that instead of confronting them on rather trivial problem, he went on his blog to write about how racist Japanese people are. He also cries about how anime/manga with rape/loli themes is not illegal. I mean no soykaf, I don't think that literature/media where people are murdered is illegal in the west either. And murder is the most serious crime you can commit. He just seems angry about the fact that they are very different culture. And I'm not saying that there aren't problems, but most things he points out are petty at best.
SHODAN · 2018-01-10 20:06
>>6586 The point is that they don't feel the need to use honorifics, not that his firstname/lastname is in the wrong order.
The Plague · 2018-01-10 20:54
>>6587 He says that they called him Adrian-san "at best". So yes, it's about the fact that he introduced himself other way around. Just like I already told you, you are going to get the same treatment everywhere else where the first language isn't English. If you are going to talk to me in German and I know that you barely speak it, I'm going to talk to you as "du" instead of "Sie", because that just naturally comes to mind when trying to speak basic German. If they wanted to offend him, they would have called him Adrian-kun or Adrian-chan, dropping the honorific probably just comes to mind when speaking with somebody who doesn't understand the language very well. Do you think that the whole company would refuse if he asked them to call him Storey-san?
Sipho Nkosi · 2018-01-10 21:53
>>6588 >He says that they called him Adrian-san "at best". So yes, it's about the fact that he introduced himself other way around. Learn to read. >>6587 The point is that they don't feel the need to use honorifics, not that his firstname/lastname is in the wrong order. >If you are going to talk to me in German and I know that you barely speak it, You are correct that everyone will speak to you like a retard if you don't speak the language. That is no what is happening here. They give a him less respect because he is not Japanese. That is what is happening.
Gyula Kovacs · 2018-01-10 22:19
>>6589 >You are correct that everyone will speak to you like a retard if you don't speak the language. That is no what is happening here. They give a him less respect because he is not Japanese. That is what is happening. Learn to read. That's going to happen with almost every language that is heavy on formal/polite stuff. Formality and politeness goes out of the window and the only thing on your mind is making sure you two understand each other. >That is no what is happening here. They give a him less respect because he is not Japanese. Good thing that you know what people that you have never met think. Maybe you should use your psychic powers for something else.
Crazy Jake · 2018-01-11 18:31
>>6590 >Learn to read. I say learn to read because you chopped off the main part of the sentence and based your whole post around the less significant other half. Why do you say "learn to read"? >Formality and politeness goes out of the window and the only thing on your mind is making sure you two understand each other. Your premise that this person who lives and works in Japan doesn't know Japanese is wrong. >Good thing that you know what people that you have never met think. I don't know what he thinks. I know what he wrote though. >Everyone older and more senior must always be referred to by their surname and the honorific “San”... >At every place I ever worked, however, I was always referred to by my first name “Adrian” or at best “Adrian San” even by much younger staff members. >No big deal you might say, but again, in a country where nuance of language is so terribly important, it displays a lack of respect and more of that “not one of us” attitude that grates. Learn to read.