Lainchan Political Compass Test

Let us lainons take the political compass test! Find it here: https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

>>3286 The 8 values test includes more axis and might be better for some people: https://8values.github.io/index.html

>>3287 Jeez, you're giving the market a lot of leeway there.

nothing makes sense to me anymore

This lain gets it: >>3290

Pretty standard probably.

>>3288 I have much more nuanced views, I tend to get classical liberalism nowdays. >>3289 It needs tuning, they all do.

>>3296 Hello similar minded lainon. This >>3294 is also me.

Noticing this type of distribution, within a small range, seems to be typical of a lot of Lainons.

The typical distribution. Some of the questions on the 8values test are a little more black-or-white than I'd like. For example, I believe it's important to have military spending but that it should be lower priority. Where does that fit on the scale of whether or not military spending is a waste? Another difficult one is whether victimless crimes like drug use should be illegal. This question makes the assertion that drug use is victimless, which is not necessarily true. I support free use alongside regulated production and sales, public education on the risks, accessible health services, and preventative measures for correlated crimes. Unfortunately that's a little too nuanced to be expressed as part of a questionnaire like this. I suppose I should bring up addressable concerns with the 8values team, but meh.

>>3298 can comfirm

>>3300 confirm damn it

I thought I would be further to the top right, but really I'll never leave the bottom left sector.

;/

Ideally I would get rid of the state. But this won't happen...

>>3286

fuarrrk me, I'm a bloody liberal..

Meh. I wouldn't call myself a moderate conservative. I prefer to look at problems case by case. So most of these blanket statements don't really appeal to me. For instance, "International trade is beneficial" Well that depends on the resources of the trading nations, their development, the banking situation, and a whole lot else. For a specific trade deal you can analyze it and see where it benefits who, but you can't say the whole concept of international trade is beneficial or not. Another problem is one of language. In the question, "Governments should be accountable to the international community", the term "international community" is unclear. According to the Western ruling class, the international community is the US + allies. Perhaps the term should really mean a large majority of the world's nations. Multipolar international law is beneficial to the world's nations, while international law controlled by a single power group is harmful to the average nation. But answering the question will give +10 to world regardless.

>>3307 >>3308 The site is likely using the political science versions of the terms "Liberal" and "Conservative", not the extremely warped American definitions of those terms which are stand ins to mean "I vote Democrat" or "I vote Republican"

>>3308 These tests are always based on the assumptions of the people who made them. "Should we regulate this thing a lot or a little" and the option to get rid of the thing altogether isn't even there for example, whether that means either banning something by authority or simply not supporting the authority that imposed it on you in the first place.

>>3310 >These tests are always based on the assumptions of the people who made them Specifically, each question is going to affect one of the axis with positive or negative points. How each question is even phrased will change your position along with how strongly you answer it. 8values in itself seems to be biased to lean to Libertarian Socialism in libertarian circles, which lainchan certainly inevitably is.

These things always make me look like an anarchist when really I'm definitely statist.

>>3286

HODOR !!!

>>3287

>>3287 What the fuarrrk am I

>>3316 also this, I keep shifting to the left every year. I wonder if it's because of trump

I've taken the compass so many times and no matter how I try I can't seem to land next to Hitler.

>>3286

>>3317 You're stationary, it's the country shifting right.

>>3321 i thought society would always progress to the left? was marx wrong?

serious question for everyone in the green quadrant What form of society would you envisage these ideals working in? I can understand the lower right "if you earn it you keep it" philosophy, but how will wealth be redistributed without authority?

>>3322 That's some pretty low quality bait, Lain. Society is simultaneously progressing in both directions at present. It's called "polarization".

>>3323 It's called mutual aid and normal people do it every day actually.

>>3323 Think of it like this: - Y axis is personal freedom. Increasing this means gay people are allowed to marry, there is no state religion, certain drugs are decriminalised and you have stronger and stronger free speech. Victimless crimes are not crimes. - X axis is corporate freedom. Increasing this means deregulating the market, reducing taxes, and making the barrier to enter the market as low as possible. So people in the green quadrant aren't about to abolish every law, just those restricting people's freedom. The commercial market however would be fairly heavily regulated. Green quadrant doesn't mean absence of government.

>>3323 Some of the differences from what is happening right now in the US (as a base example) would be switching to proper healthcare (like in other countries as Straya or Denmark). Note that the "if you earn it, you keep it" doesn't have to be invalidated this way, a major idea behind being in the green quadrant is that it is not happening right now - that is, those with power distribute wealth in a way that favours them, so a _very specific_ sort of intervention would be necessary for it to be distributed fairly. Note that this is not the absence of any system, the green quadrant isn't just complete anarchy. (though that is also where anarchists reside, generally) >>3321 >>3322 >>3324 Society as a whole is moving left slightly, but recently the movement has changed and there is more polarization than before, with more people going to the right. US is a good example of a place where the movement to the right has been particularly strong, but if you believe that the specific problems that have caused it (general frustrations that you probably know if) are going to be solved, then the movement will probably move to the left some more.

>>3327 ancient greek culture could be considered very liberal compared to aspects of medieval european culture, and even fascism in europe in the early 1900's. some pre-civilized tribes had essentially no notion of property, no marriage, just free sex between everyone. the marxist belief that society will always become more and more liberal requires one to be very short sighted. scientific progress wasn't held back by christianity like that infographic you can find on the atheist subreddit would have you believe, christianity flourished because times were hard then and people needed some ideology to hold on to if a nuclear war, famine, or some other massive disaster occurs, the world's political landscape will be closer to dark age europe than ancient greece. bear in mind that soon after the roaring 20's where everyone in the united states was doing drugs and having a right good old time, germany took part in ethnic cleansing. they were under too much pressure from the first war and the massive damage to their economy from reparations the term fascism comes from the latin term for a tightly wrapped bundle of thin sticks, because they are stronger together than apart. when times get hard, people get hard as well. that's why someone's family being blown up by a muslim person makes him more likely to hate muslims and join a white power group. violence evokes that primal part of peoples psyches. if you believe times will never be hard again in human history, you're wrong. entropy itself ensures the impossibility of an eternal utopia. there will always be fascism, because it's branded in the back of every living thing's head and it'll never go away. it just doesn't come to the surface when there's no reason for it to.

>>3329 not all unity is fascism.

Almost every lainon is hanging out in the bottom left corner, except for that one user who keeps posting the racial inequality things.

>>3323 Generally, movements that landed in the green quadrant (EZLN, CNT/FAI) have sprung from places where their earnings or land were being systematically taken from them by some authority. The desire to keep material wealth in the community and distribute it fairly was inspired by that injustice.

Yeah sounds like me

These compass tests need a third axis; scale. The questions are often framed as how much should the government regulate the market, how much should we put the brakes onto globalisation, etc. Some worldviews would express that the scale of the thing is the problem and that we should focus on our own town, tribe, county, whatever. That is not anti-authoritarian in and of itself. Some tribal governments and Christian isolationist communities have been ruthlessly authoritarian for example but were tiny, self contained dictatorships. They would be low on the scale axis, high on the authority one. A communal farm with equal distribution and direct democracy would score low on the scale axis. So would the "git off m'land" libertarians. Meanwhile Joe Stalin and modern neo-liberals would both score high. Both want large systems covering a huge area and millions of people, however different those systems are along the other axes.

>>3334 shouldn't Nazism be more towards economically socialist and socially progressive?

>>3336 No on both counts. The "socialist" in National Socialist is about as meaningful as "republic" in Democratic People's Republic of Korea or People's Republic of China.

>>3334 Hail victory

datamining/thread

Surprised at the lack of comrades here

Feed the People.

Mine has moved a little bit lower and to the right. Maybe because our president is the commie Trump of Asia.

These are still trendy, right? The Political compass is a lot less intricate than I remember it, that being said, both tests put me in the same position.

>>3286 my result attached(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST (Rule 4), Always elaborate on your opinions, Also /hum/ is not /civ/ and this thread may be moved in /r/ in future.)

Apparently I'm not as right wing as I thought I was.

fully automated luxury space communism please

Posting

>>3318 Me too, friend.

>>3331 Le Pen was Economically Left and Authoritarian and she'd heavily disagree with that. I would, too, because I'm essentially Stalin-lite.

I'm probably more "world-ish" on the diplomatic axis, but i didn't understand in some questions if they were about society as it is or about society as i want it to be, so i answered neutral.

I dont understand the point of these tests, don't most people know where they stand politically?

>>3426 they're probably made to show fastly your political stance to others, like we are doing now. Obviously this is silly cause people have different opinions on different things and don't follow test categories. At least is interesting to know if a place tends to be more populated by leftists or rightists (can you say rightist in engrish? I never read it but it seems logical) and how much radical they are. The only problem is that on anonymus imageboards, in particular nowadays that it is full of alt-right trolls everywhere, someone can selfpost a lot of test results with little differences to pretend "they" are more than one. Anyway i don't think this is happening here now.

>>3427 > can you say rightist in engrish I don't know about engRish but it's perfectly acceptable In English. It's not commonly used though. People tend to identify as conservative, libertarian, something more specific like that. As a blanket term you're more likely to hear "the right" rather than "rightists".

I forget where I put the image and I'm not answering all those questions again but it told me once that I was Libertarian Communist.

>>3426 I do them purely to waste time.

>>3337 But the PRC is a republic. It's just a one party republic with a strong authoritarian overtone, whose party itself is divided in various factions with different political ideas and interest both on a regional and national level. The president doesn't have limitless power either, he is still elected with a limit of 2 consecutive terms and is accountable towards the party, and to lesser extent the Chinese people. The lack of universal suffrage and open direct democracy doesn't make them less of a republic. Though apparently they have open election on the lower level of representatives (such as Local People's Congress or something like that), and on some occasion dissidents get elected, but the candidates are, outside of unusual cases, selected by the party, and they hardly matters. The rest of the elections and appointments are indirect and made by the National Congress, or Local Congress, which ensure that everything fall under the control of the Party. On an side note, although I've stated that the PRC is a one party republic, it is far from the truth. The CCP does allow the existence of other parties so long as they don't challenge the power of the CCP. It is believed that they serve as an honeypot for the political police. Interestingly, in the recent years, two Maoist reactionary parties have been derezzed.

>>3435 I read that last bit and imagined a political cartoon involving the secret police with a series of boxes propped up by sticks, each box labled "social democrat" or some other theme. Right in here, citizens. Freedom awaits ..meanwhile, behind the building [pic related]

its quite nice to see so many different results i gotta say, tho, getting kinda triggered with the use of the word "progress" i fuarrrking hate positivists

>>3287 This was kinda unexpected.

>>3287 nice. i like the multi-axis approach.

D-death to globalists!

I'm kind of disappointed by all the commies here. I'd have thought lains would be a little more interested in freedom.

>>3501 but we are...

>>3307 my man

Can't really relate myself with any mainstream ideology, yet I'm quite chill with both left and right. Third positionism (not to be confused with Third Way) is probably the closest. >inb4 nazbol meme

>>3501 i value freedom

>>3286 me n Gandhi

>>3286 here it goes, i'm actually surprised

I'm a classical anarchist, at the very least classical libertarian. I don't associate with the socialist or communists. In a anarchist state people's needs will be fufilled and they can achieve thier life goals as long as they are not forcing thier will on other people. Pacifism does not mean one is not allowed to own guns.

>>3538 here Forgot the 8 values

>>3539 Here's the "certificate"

>>3538 Classical anarchists are Bakunin, Proudhon, Kropotkin, etc. All on the extreme left. There's nothing "classical anarchist" about your views.

>>3546 Then who am I? I don't understand the left right dichotomy under no authority. It all seems the same to me.

looks like Lains tend towards: Red Cyan Yellow Purple Than there are the others...

>>3548 the standard argument is that any authority-less society must necessarily be anti-capitalist, anti-racist, anti-classist, etc., and thus leftist.

>>3548 Judging from your compass, you are closer to anarcho-mutualism.

>>3550 I'm also anti capitalist but I do like people to own stuff they make and trade the stuff they make with what they need. I don't like some abstract form of ownership though which makes capitalism terrible. For example, owning thoughts and ideas and objects that you didn't actually make with the exception of trading the goods you produce to aquire said objects. >>3551 I'm also just as close to synicallism but I don't like ether philosophies. Private property is a spook (mostly).

>>3552 look into mutualism, the OG anarchism. Also considered leftist by most leftists.

>>3551 >>3552 >mutualism >syndicalism Is there really any practical difference, though?

>>3560 I also like some aspects of anarcho-transhumanism without the unresricted free market and aparent hirarchy. I'm not sure why that's even a thing.

>>3579 I prefer sapplycompass to the regular one.

I'm a centrist! My political compass is 2 down and 0.5 to the left.

People care too much [about things that they don't control] => [politics]. They have this illusion that their opinion really matters, anyways.

>>3577 Mutualism is a very general term. Syndicalists believe specifically in a structured future society built by unions currently existing in present society. As the workers movement grows in power, it assumes the social services and public works currently controlled by government until the movement is strong enough to get rid of the government (possibly with a bloody insurgency at some point). After the revolution, the local workers control only the factories, shops and fields they directly work in without any central leadership somewhere else, while maintaining a horizontal federation of autonomous groups of workers elsewhere. You can't be a syndicalist without being a mutualist but there are forms of mutualism that aren't syndicalist. If your mutual aid based community doesn't join the larger federation, you wouldn't be a syndicalist. Look at the root word "syndical" kinda like "syndicate".

>>3501 You're seeing the worst for some reason. Most of us are on the liberty end of that axis, but spread left and right on the other.

>all these nation state supporters Not very /cyb/

>>3589 ...but they're not the majority at all.

Last time I did the 8 values test I scored libertarian socialism

>>3800 I like that SelectSmart one.

>>3435 National-socialists were as socialist as The democratic people's republic of Korea was democratic. I think my quote is better.

>>3813 yep, they have another one with philosophers which is pretty cool too, although I get different answers every time I take it. The last time I tried I was close to Sartre and John Stuart Mill, today it's Hobbes and Ayn Rand http://selectsmart.com/PHILOSOPHY/

>>3287 Sorry I'm on mobile... >Tfw you used to be a fascist None of it matters anymore, just leave me and my weed, guns, and street racing alone................

>>3345 Hugbox mods!

>>3937 Lol my name from last post....

>>3331 That image is false

>>3935 >None of it matters anymore, just leave me and my weed, guns, and street racing alone That sounds really defeatist, lainon.

>>3579 >peaceful >revolutionary

Hmm, political compass thing kinda got me off guard. I never would expect that I could end up in authoritarian left. My views on society are very conservative. I won't brag about immigrants, muslims and the denial of traditional values becacuse you've probably heard a lot about it. My views on economy are pretty mixed. I see the importance of free market and private business but I also think that some areas of economy should be heavily regulated and maybe even nationalized. Pretty funny because I actually used to be an anarchocapitalist. I still think that it's a pretty noble idea but it would quickly fail. Paradoxically, the free market could fall without the government regulations because of the monopolies. Civil liberties are important for me. They differ a free person from a slave. The only exception is when these liberties are used in a way that could potentially endanger our way of life, that is our culture, values or civil liberties themself, no matter if it's being done by the government or a group of people. My ideal form of government would be a constitutional monarchy or a dictatorship. I am for a strong government but not a totalitarian one.

>>4215 >My views on society are very conservative. well there you go. Lots of authoritarian lefties are secretly very conservative(particularly Maoists and MLs)

>>4245 Everyone knows political compass has its biases. Most communists, including Stalinists and Maoists, end up in the lib left quadrant. If you end up in the red, you're probably a very Christian, protectionist lefty.

>>4246 I indeed am Christian and protectionist but I was a lefty only for a short time when I was younger. Well, the more you know. Looks like I can use /leftypol/ memes now.

There's also this thing. http://filteries.com/politics Pretty cool imo.

>>4252 interesting, but I feel as if it assumes some things about the underlying model(i.e., the existence of money and a state) that restricts the space.

>>4252 Another neat one. I could play with the tax sliders all day, but this is the general idea. Trying to keep public services well-funded while encouraging the free flow of wealth is pretty difficult. As if it needs to be said. Gun control is an interesting area I'd like to spend a second talking about. Overall, I support the general populace being able to own guns provided they receive appropriate safety training. However, an argument was made to me some time ago that having freely available guns means law enforcement officers are forced to assume others may be armed and dangerous. This impacts everyone's safety. Consequently, I've come to support a gun registry compromise that allows people to own guns at the cost of bearing that assumption but mitigates the effect on non-owners. It's one of a few places where I'm willing to push into tracking your average person for the sake of security, a topic very relevant to the subject matter of this website.

>>4248 Literally me except I'm a muslim. Not too concerned with religious differences, I'm cool with christians to the point that I think the muslim minorities in the west should really behave and respect the majority instead of grouping themselves with the neo-liberals. The same should also apply to minority groups in other countries.

>>4252 this is p cool

looks like we have a revolution to start, lainons

Sounds about right

>>4258 Here, you do have to take a course before earning a permit to purchase a rifle. Handguns are restricted but not derezzed; you need to go through further qualifications to get that permit though and the rules about transporting them are pretty strict. We tried a registry and disregarding all the other pros and cons, it was scrapped after a few years mainly I think because it was too expensive to maintain. I used to be in support of abolishing gun laws but after living a few years in the US I decided I'm mostly alright with the laws here.

>>4411 > derezzed f*cking w*rd filters

>>3286 There's quite some difference, methinks

heck the state heck capitalism

i think i did bretty gud

>>3334 I try to put the Socialism back in National-Socialism

>>4588 lmao what

>>3286 I'd like to be in a "Constitutional Monarchy, minarchy" with communities managing their own services they use. Only tax outside communities is for services connecting communities and the defense of the nation.

>>4589 Radical Centrist!!!

...huh? I mean I know that I have some liberal views, but most libtards online think that I'm from Stormfront.

>>4593 protip: the crazy people aren't representative of the whole

>>4594 Well yeah I know that, but I've simply ran into too many of them over the past five years.

>>3286 I think this test is a bit outdated. It conflates interventionism with opposition to mass immigration. Worked for most people during the Bush years, but in recent times, that's changed.

>>3287 I couldn't even get past the first question. It's so fuarrrking loaded and divorced from anything real, I could not in good conscience click one of these or continue. Which means that any one of you who was able to is a fuarrrking wanker who understands nothing.

>>4617 lol, why are you so salty about a single question? Think you're so high and mighty that things that are important to all the peons are beneath you?

>>4630 This has to be a meme.

I identify as Liberal on most issues except for immigration. Pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-gun control, anti-immigration (I think immigration per se is not bad, it just has to be far more tightly controlled than it is now). I also think universal healthcare is a good thing, and traditions are only good insofar as they achieve objectively better outcomes.

>>4617 Check out the gray option. It literally has "unsure" label.

>>4639 Reserve requirements could be cut as needed to 10% as needed in response to investment slowdowns.

>>4631 You wish.

>>4638 But I am very sure of my stance on what that question is getting at. Neither is more of a concern than the other as oppression by anything is all equally bad, and neither corporations nor governments as it certain intends those words should exist. Neutral/Unsure would imply I don't care or understand the question. Strongly Disagree would imply I think oppression by governments is more of a concern.

>>4630 >bankrupt in 3 years simulator

>>4667 >Neutral/Unsure would imply I don't care or understand the question. That is neither the intended meaning nor how it is counted in the test.

I was the guy who was questioning if i was a mutualist or synicalist, in >>3540 >>3538 I guess I'm full on Anarcho-Communist now. Probably due to being on leftypol and seeing the idiocy of /liberty/ and seeing thier mental gymnastics. Plus I actually started reading some anarchist literature such as Peter Kropotkin. I got to get around to reading the ego and his own.

>mfw all these degenerate leftists

>>4938 Our time will come. : ^)

>>4937 what do you mean by mental gymnastics? i don't really have a opinion but their soykaf looks legit from what I've seen

>>4941 Have you seen their arguments, they always bring up the same thing and once the argument is refuted they just ignore. It's even hard to make a normal conversation with them if they know you are even a anarcho-mutualist without throwing some irrelevant ad-hommium. It's a circle jerking board for 'an'caps who just can't get their head around why private property exists. On a side note, did you know the website allows for more options now, but I think it has a bias for ancaps because I can't see how to make everything pulblic and funds to not be monetary but physical assets. The next best thing is egoism

I'm always skeptical of these political tests. I don't really think theres a way to ask these questions and evaluate their answers in a way that doesn't have some implicit ideology embedded in the process that ultimately distorts the person's orientation.

>>4940 You guys had your "day" about seven decades ago. Let bygones be bygones, your side list.

>>4945 This is certainly true. The questions are usually like should the state regulate X a lot or a little? and never include the option that maybe X was a mistake in the first place and can we please try another approach. Mostly the tests show a libertarian capitalist bias and then measure testees on how far each of them differs from that starting point and in what directions.

>>4944 Pretty much something like this but without private business or money (funds are physical assets, things rather then spooks).

>>4944 oh I thought you were talking about libertarians in general. I didn't browse /liberty/ for long but yeah it's 8ch that kind of stuff is to be expected, they whole layout encourages insider trading and the userbase ain't that friendly

>>4950 phuck I didn't know there was a worldfilter for that

>>4949 the system would also be goal oriented and not profit driven. And the real estate tax is kind of retarded, I don't want any private property but I guess wealth that is not used is wealth that is wasted if somebody is already dead? The public spending is really high because I don't believe in sitting on capital. If something is needed to be done it will be done using those funds so the things(the public funds in the context of the website) can differ significantly to achieve different goals. also, sageru for sperging out.

The Estate Tax will not be sticking around as is. There's no way this is viable.

>>4590 1 Monarch who is the face of the nation and represents it. Communities vote for their own policies etc. 2 taxes "public" and "community" Public is for managing the military/milita, border and roads connecting communities. Community is for managing roads and any other utilities the community has. 1 vote per head of family. For businesses: Only regulations/fines for: Ensuring that the product and production/process doesn't harm the people/nation/user or the environment. Tax is the same as before(public and community) and the business is viewed as an "individual"

>>4993 Also there'd be a moral law and an anti subversion law to prevent moral decay/degeneracy. Police are elected by the communities. there'd be volunteer/militia for emergency response too.

good we don't have too many statists i guess.

oh soykaf i'm stalin

So, if this is a world government, where do the exports that I'm deciding tariffs on go? For that matter, where am I getting all these immigrants?

Neat

Why are so many of you in the lib left?!?! It's pretty degenerate desu~

>>5173 Tbh I'm more surprised that there are so many fascists (or autocracy types at least) on a cyberpunk imageboard.

>>5174 how come do you think facists are not capable of enjoying tech and anime?

>>5176 I didn't say that. I just find it odd that a science fiction genre which depicts Orwellian accumulations of power in the hand of governments and megacorps in a dystopic way attracts these kind of political views.

>>5174 >b-but cyberpunk is a leftist safe space! I'm getting tired of this meme. Get lost!

>>5181 Can you please list exactly which cyberpunk works you enjoy? Cause i can't really figure out a nazi appreciating, for instance, the man in the high castle, ghost in the shell or the last deus ex.

>>5184 They don't. They just see any imageboard as a safe space to spew their authoritarian nonsense as if we haven't heard it all 100 times already.

yee

>>5177 evil megacorps are a nazi LARPer's wet dream though

>>5184 Isn't Ghost in the Shell extremely authoritarian?

>>5194 Compared to Nazi Germany or the USSR? Not at all. People in that future enjoy considerably more economic and personal freedom most of the time. There is a great deal of sympathy shown for the ordinary refugees in Standalone Complex as well, even though a tiny few of their community are resorting to terrorism. That sort of nuance is something authoritarians aren't known for. Regardless, fiction depicting an authoritarian future is rarely promoting it; pro-authority fiction would probably show the evils of liberal values run rampant.

>>5184 Maybe they take a look at the crony-capitalism and morally bankrupt universes that last two you mention depict? Perhaps they're not twelve years old, live in the real world, and don't want to see those crummy trash-laden futures come to fruition? One can enjoy fiction without desiring the world depicted within to be reality. Perhaps your perspective is different than that, and you imagine that the future GITS depicts is akin to the way a national-socialist state would function? If so you're vastly underexposed to the topic at hand, to put it politely. National socialism is associated with traditional values and strengthening the nation/volk. People in a Nazi state would focus on the well-being of their family and neighbors, their would be little to no slums tolerated even among the poor, and the economic ladder would be as fluid as possible so as to benefit "the volk" by placing everyone in their most effecient position. Freedom would exist insofar that one does not engage in morally-bankrupt behaviour. Mind you I'm not a Nazi, but you either didn't think through what you were saying at first or you don't understand what you're talking about. Not liking an ideology is entirely different than not understanding it.

>>5207 I wanted to include this bit in the other post, but it turns into another topic, so I'll put it in it's own form as a reply. It's highly doubtful any of the people on here advocating german-tier national socialism (with swasitikas and all) actually want to bring their 'ideology' to light, or that they even fully understand it. These idiots even use the flag, color-scheme and all, of a foreign dead nation which is believed by "the volk" of every modern country to be the incarnation of evil. Like-wise the same is true for the so-called "socialists," who give such a vague description of their ideology, that anything that involves government-institutions providing for the benefit of "the people" is deemed socialist. Yet somehow it should be especially noted for them that national-socialism isn't really socialism because their feelings dictate that must be the case. You can, with a little thought, probably understand why the hard-communists are retarded by looking at all the fragmenting of, and furthermore they're excuses for, their ideology. The use of the hammer-and-sickle is one-hundred-perecent akin to the nazi's use of the swastika in how fuarrrking retarded someone would need to be to use it in the modern west. Someone who forms real meaningful political thought does so about individual issues that can benefit themselves, their family, and their nation the most. From there, what one should do is find, or form, a political force that pushes to help people by enacting those solutions. What one should not do is fall into pre-conceived, ineptly-packaged, world views either created to deceive you by malicious actors or by charismatic fools. Examples for why total ideological adoption is bad: -Modern, western, socialists nowadays illogically advocate open-borders likely due to being subversed. Their country is inevitably flooded to the detriment of it's original people. -Modern, western, communists advocate for the government to protect freedoms such as speech by cannot come up with a solid real-world definition for these freedoms that are not dictated by their feelings and world-view. This essentially thus amounts to theocracy. -Modern, western, nazis believe they'll attract a following by condemning and hating everyone who doesn't think or look like them. Those who suggest otherwise are hit with "muh PR" memes.

>>5207 > Perhaps your perspective is different than that, and you imagine that the future GITS depicts is akin to the way a national-socialist state would function? Absolutely no one is drawing that conclusion here. I have no idea where this came from.

>>5209 There were two optional meanings I could discern by someone making that statement in this context: 1. You can't enjoy cyberpunk fiction if you're a nazi because nazism doesn't fit into the cyberpunk paradigm. 2. People with authoritarian ideologies can't like cyberpunk fiction due to most works depicting authority (in either the from of the government or private enterprise) as a corrupt force that ruins society. Obviously that line is in reference to option two. Akin means sharing similar qualities in reference to something else, the qualities shared would in this case be authoritarianism in both the fictional stories (depicted as bad) and in the nazi ideology (depicted as good).

>>5210 The problem may simply lie in the fact that you guys have come up with next to zero fiction of your own that's actually worth reading or watching and have to force some interpretation of your own onto existing narratives. This is not a prompt for your list of quality fascist fiction. I specified "worth reading or watching".

>>5211 As stated in my post, I'm not a nazi. I however was not keen on the statement "i can't really figure out a nazi appreciating [cyber punk fiction]." Mostly because this line of thought reveals a mindset of "If you're not from my list of approved political- and world-views, in no possible way could you appreciate cyberpunk literature. You can only really enjoy what I enjoy if you derive and understand the same things I do from it." Trying to universalize your view of the universe is beyond retarded, and it seems like, ironically, in our information-based age it's become even more common than in the past. Although not a nazi, if I were to take up the role of devil's advocate here, I'd say pretty accurately that you just blatantly moved the goal post. This especially becomes apparent when you consider that plenty of cyberpunk fiction has little to do with political themes. Most of the messaging is often philosophical such as questioning the seperation between man and machine, what is true sentience and consciousness, or the existence of the soul. Sometimes there really isn't any messaging aside from what you take away from the story yourself.

>>5244 > you just blatantly moved the goal post. ...or just possibly, you are arguing with more than one person with more than one perspective.

Nice :3

I find it makes it pointless if you get live scores in tests, bias and all. It's interesting nonetheless since the system gets more transparent. Questions involving "Memes of production" seem to be the staple bait, but surely that can't the only one. Anyone familiar if there were any paraphrased quotes from other sides of the political field?

freedom only exist within an order... respect and fear the state and the hierarchy

I believe the defining aspect of a man is the tradition vs progress bar. Those of you leaning towards progress:Why do you like cyber-punk fiction? It seems to me that cyber-punk is usually about dystopic future societies ruined by progressive-minded, over zealous scientists and politicians. Those on the traditional side know that man is inherently flawed and potentially self-destructive and these self destructive impulses are exacerbated by technology. All other values, to me, are secondary and I can find comradeship with most.

huh

>>5299 These tests are always flawed regarding progress vs tradition, for instance I personally live rather traditionally but I always end up on the progressive side because I don't wish to see customs being regulated by the government, neither by enforcing traditional customs nor "social progress", whatever that soykaf is. Also self destruction is a natural right

Econmic = -15 Cultural = -38 This summer I spent a lot time reading about left political ideologies, but ultimately I wasn't convinced by them, at least I don't think they're right for the conditions of my own country.

>>5402

>>5254 Whether one person or ten, the discussion, and what was stated, remains the same.

>>5448 I've seen my share of economic abuse, I guess that's why I have such strong feeling to economic issues.

I dont really give a fuarrrk about politics

>>5173 left lib is soooo 2014

>>5174 you really shouldn't be, they predate you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_punk

>>4993 I probably can state it in a better way. Products/services are managed like businesses are under fascism, provide whatever you want as long as it isn't degenerate/hurts the people No degeneracy in public and no promotion of degeneracy or anything that will harm the nation/people.

>>5499 >Nazi Punks Bunch of posers.

ohsoykaf

>>5499 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MkRuV0aCcI

spekr is by far the worst that I've taken I think (mind you I have only taken a few) inasmuch as the creator made it flagrantly obvious what their political views are. While all of these tests suffer from bias and give little windows into their creator's ideologies (which is really something that can't be avoided in something like this), spekr is especially bad about asking loaded and skewed questions. Or perhaps it's more obvious because the position that's being shown is something radical, so it isn't being blocked out by my liberal bullsoykaf filter. >>3343

Spekd definitely isn't good, but somehow still came up with the right category

>>5537 I meant to tell >>3343 to join the NPA but forgot lmao

Let's do the Political Sextant test, Lains. http://politicalsextant.com/

Someone told me to do this one so I did please ignore the horrible link. http://politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=-2&2=-2&3=1&4=-1&5=-2&6=-2&7=2&8=-2&9=1&10=-1&11=2&12=2&13=2&14=1&16=-2&17=2&18=2&19=2&20=-2&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=-2&26=-1&27=-2&28=-2&29=2&30=0&31=-1&32=1&33=-2&34=-2&35=-2&36=-1&37=1&38=-2&39=2 It says anarcho-capitalist, though I typically describe myself as minarchist or usually just "libertarian".

The fourth one that I couldn't fit on screen for the sextant scrot was Three Principles of the People at 67%.

>>6741 I got classical marxism, ancom, national anarchism(???), and queer anarchism(???). I think nationalism and queer-*/femenist-*/black-* etc etc are mostly retarded, but I guess it goes more by the supposed basic premise than the details. Then again, I do believe things that would make nationalists and SJWs accuse me of that >WELL THEN YOU DO AGREE HAHA GOTCHA soykaf. Local self governance, feeling like modern society is optimized to tear people apart and scatter them to the wind, community can be good, which sex's bits get you horny does not matter so whatever it is for someone is fine, etc. Even this seems sort of shallow and barely useful. Personality tests for politics, and about as useful as any other personality test.

meh

The 8values test is written by someone who does not actually know anything about history or politics outside of a casual view of the tiny American Overton Window of Liberals VS Conservatives.

Pretty typical here I guess

My results.

>>6754 Sieg heil to that fam! :3

>>6754 Almost same here. (can't post my result. I accidentally closed the browser window and I don't want to do the test again) I used to be more liberal in the past but nowadays I'm a fascist (in social issues) with very economic right-wing views.

Centrism memes.

too lazy to take the first one again but you can probably guess what it would be like

i dont really like the 8values either. beyond the sometimes loaded questions, i disagree with the choice of labels. >equality/markets too much overlap with liberty/authority. also, they're not really opposites. recommend centralized/decentralized or populist/<whatever the opposite concept is> instead. i know the "economic axis" is pretty universal with these things, but i do think that you could do away with it and make it more general. that way this axis represents only the amount of input that the public has, with the question of how much you actually have to listen to the government handled by the liberty/authority axis. >nation/world this one's fine if you play loose with the definitions of nation and world. the concept would be better expressed as the size of the sovereign unit, with "the individual" on one end, and "world government" or something on the other. that way you can more meaningfully reflect, for instance, a person's preference for federated city-states vs. larger republics. >liberty/authority i wouldn't mess with this one. it's pretty well established what the two concepts represent. just be careful with the weighting of the questions. two people who want "the same amount of laws" (roughly speaking) should get the same score on this axis whether the laws are written by popular vote or by a king. the question of king vs. democracy is handled by the first axis. >tradition/progress i don't like this one at all. they aren't even close to being opposites, and i don't know anyone who is against "progress" in the abstract. most people have very different stances per issue based on whether or not they believe the tradition in question is a good one. if you did want to keep it, the question should be more about how progress should be made: through adherence to or rejection of tradition. i can't come up with a catchy name for this, but i guess it's kind of a tradition/"modernism" axis. the main thing missing here is "equality", and it's actually a tough one to put on an axis. you could frame it in terms of equal opportunity vs. equal outcome, but that's a much more narrow concern than the others. equality/meritocracy might also work. the main problem there is that it can't differentiate between people who believe that equal opportunity is required for true meritocracy, and people that factor in the "merit" of your ancestor's work and would take a more hands-off approach. i'd probably throw out the concept entirely and replace it with an individualist/collectivist axis.

>>6866 tl;dr who runs the government? how big is the territory? how powerful is the government? does the government work for individual or collective best interest? seems like you could work out the rest by weighing your options pragmatically.

>>3286 IM AN ANCAP XDDDDD

Pretty normal result here I suppose

soykaf

Most political tests are soykaf because they're as broad as possible while presenting preconceived dualities. People say 8values is good but the "equality - markets" duality irks me, it's stuck in the Enlightenment era because that duality excludes discrimination based on hierarchy rooted in tradition and instead presents the two flawed choices of either full egalitarianism or full meritocracy. I recommend Politiscales, it's comprehensive and the creators seem to know their stuff. Pictures related. http://www.politiscales.net (I've fuarrrked up this post and deleted this twice now, this is why I never fuarrrking phonepost)

>>7206 This is definitely much better than 8values.

>>7206 Also, I think you ancoms should look into Jünger's Anarch, National Anarchisn or Evola's Ride The Tiger or something. I have no idea how you can be egalitarian at all when time and time again, we're proven that the lowest common denominator is the one that allows our world to slip into a cyberpunk dystopia. People who just want to party, who are hooked onto their social media and who are completely subsumed into the modern culture of rootless consumerism are somehow just as equal as the average lainon? These people need an educated Brahmin caste to rule over them, and that had been the case for thousands of years until the European nobility had degenerated so much that the rabble got the idea that they needed to be disposed of. The first step towards our much feared cyberpunk dystopia is the notion that someone can be an international global citizen of the Earth who is just a person and nothing else. No faith, no tradition going back hundreds of years, it's just you, the present and your bourgeois indulgence in trinkets. Essential ethnic traditions are sacrificed at the stake for mindless hedonism, and once people are nothing but cogs they can easily be used by capitalists for profit, because a sense of maintaining tradition in spite of such temptations is gone. I don't know what else to say. Don't be mistaken, it's not just the bourgeoisie and the proletariat, the priestly caste and soldierly caste also used to exist above the bourgeoisie. The bourgeoisie used the riled up proletariat to dispose of the (inarguably already defective) nobles and clergy and installed themselves at the top instead in the French Revolution. Now the proletariat will dispose of the bourgeoisie, and what comes after? The proletariat will go too, they will dispose of each other and the cycle of history can be completed. Hopefully this perspective will at least create doubt in those who weren't aware of such an idea already. I also don't get how you're against capitalism when the entire ideology of communism is based around the concern of who gets to control the capital. It's like how Satanists are against Christianity even though they lock themselves into the Abrahamic canon - it's seemingly very short sighted and reactionary (as in reacting, not the Right) more than anything.

>>7206 Definitely a more interesting test compared to 8values, results attached... Don't know anything about politics yet besides having some /cyb/ opinions, so far a centralist economically, still reading and ready to change my position in the future. >>7208 >our much feared cyberpunk dystopia This phrase inspirited me to talk something about /cyb/. It's hard to fit into the boards because /cyb/ has disappeared and this is neither politics nor technology, feel free to completely ignore it... I was once accepted mainstream liberal's general idea of "an open Internet" and this idea has led me to world of Free and Open Source besides technical reasons and personal interests, and soon found the "open Internet" are empty words by itself by the corporations and governments for their interests, the hackers from GNU, FOSS are the real promoters, and started to find out the idea such as "anarchy" and "transhumanism" was an actual thing, but in fact at this stage I still didn't really understand the context of it at this point. After Snowden I suddenly found why there are so many things went wrong.... And I started reading about early computing history traced to the 60s counterculture, civil rights movement, new left, 70s influences of libertarianism, personal computer revolution, and Whole Earth, formation of hacker culture, 80s cyberpunk, free software foundation, and 90s Electronic Frontier Foundation, Barlow's Declaration of Independence, cypherpunks and cryptowars, etc... A wonderful experience of exploration, and it has answerd most of my questions. And I currently think the nowadays problems of the Internet is simple. Many of the evils from the Silicon Valley hey disguised themselves as "californian ideologists" with the an promising outlook of the Internet and made themselves as the people who are working towards of the ideals by all of these movements in the past, but unfortunately what they actually did was completely an another story. They did not work for the Internet but created the New Internet Order after the rise of WWW. Today I am found the many ideas from the Wired Magazine and general "californian ideology" interesting, and luckily to some extents, after Snowden the cryptowar has came back and it might be a great opportunity to partially decentralize the system from the WWW empires yet again. And finally led me to this place. BTW, I think the "cyberpunk dystopia" is natural paradigm shift from one system to another. easily visible by looking at the role of Big Brother being taken from governments to corporations. I welcome it from a historical perspective, late-capitalism, early cyberpunk.

>>7209 >I welcome it from a historical perspective, late-capitalism, early cyberpunk. After much deliberation, I welcome it too. History is cyclical and it's pointless to go against time, the only way a traditionalist world can appear again is through a cleansing, and the quickest way to such a cleansing is through acceleration. Make everyone equal, let those savages in, a brief spark of hedonistic self pleasure before everything falls into chaos which itself has a purifying element. I think Nick Land writes about this, but I haven't read anything by him yet, even though I should have.

I don't really see the point of these tests but it's a laugh anyway.

ok it is better

>>3286 Here it is, luckily I agree with this

>>3326 I can see you are a programmer the y-axis is flipped respect to what you said

>>7216 whoops, meant to post this instead

>>7208 Sorry if this is a bit excessive, but I thought of another thing. How do anti-capitalist ancoms who see technological megacorps as a threat reconcile the fact that Google, the epitome of a nefarious megacorporation, has gone extremely left wing in the past few years? And how do you explain the establishment main stream media completely supporting their case against "stomping out extremism"? They're clearly not motivated by profits from virtue signalling anymore, what they're doing on YouTube is far too much, normal customers are fuarrrking pissed with losing their ads, and yet they persist fully. They, the actual establishment corporations together with the media, are branding even centre right stuff as violent far right extremist content that must rightfully be shut down. Just this week it was revealed that they're excluding Asian and White men when hiring in favour of "people who have been historically persecuted", and that (a bit hideous) guy got fired for even criticising their attitude towards men a few months ago. Silicon Valley is literally becoming a hub of progressive egalitarian politics when it comes to social issues, and they're far more left than the average American. This isn't motivated by profits anymore, they're actively putting aside financial benefit and product efficiency in favour of these politics. Jordan Peterson who sells the most broilerplate 90s Bill Clinton soykaf and who's only good at sounding pleasant is as extreme as the fuarrrking KKK according to Google. Even from personal experience, a friend of mine made an ironic rap song in 10 minutes where he says fuarrrk women and how they're whores, he got maybe 500 views. Removed in 24 hours for hate speech and all appeals were denied. This is utterly ridiculous. And how do you respond to the influx of right wingers to alt-tech? Sites like Bitchute and DTube (which is IPFS based) are having an influx of right wing users who are at threat of being pushed off the platform. They're demanding the government to regulate internet freedom and to guarantee free speech on private platforms like Twitter and Facebook. Outright communists can stay on YouTube and Facebook all they want mostly, it's the Right that's being forced to use solutions that oppose big tech. Oh, and the online campaigns that leftists run. If a content creator or even a single person is right wing, at least a huge part of people sympathetic to communism go for the route where they email hundreds of corporations how the person they're against is an awful bigot who must be swiftly embargoed. Using capital with no second thoughts like this is not in conflict with your ideology at all? Forgive me for typing up so much sludge so quickly, I have never had a civil conversation with staunch ancoms but I have hope in lainons so I got really into it.

>>7218 > the fact that Google, the epitome of a nefarious megacorporation, has gone extremely left wing Appearances. Capitalism tends to co-opt notions in vogue in order to appear docile and friendly. They hold those views insofar as it serves their bottom line. > what they're doing on YouTube is far too much this is advertiser pressure above and beyond any internal logic. Advertising again is about appearances, and good appearances are to follow the flow of societal pressure - in this case virtue signally me-too, BLM, etc. >They, the actual establishment corporations together with the media, are branding even centre right stuff as violent far right extremist content that must rightfully be shut down. Supply and demand. > Silicon Valley is literally becoming a hub of progressive egalitarian politics when it comes to social issues It's all appearances. There's a significant homeless problem in the Bay Area where much of these technology companies reside, and you'd guess their egalitarian drive would send them on a mission to restore these people to homes and a well-fed lifestyle; it hasn't happened since appearances don't actually perform *deeds*. > Removed in 24 hours for hate speech and all appeals were denied People report the video; this says more about the zeitgeist of the viewership above and beyond the content of any particular youtube policy. > it's the Right that's being forced to use solutions that oppose big tech This again, is a response to the demands of a population of people above and beyond any internally driven policy. Companies do what gets them paid - and in this case pandering to an over-sensitive audience and advertisers is what's paying the bills. > Using capital with no second thoughts like this is not in conflict with your ideology at all? In order to exist within a given system, you are forced to utilize the tools that system provides. There's very little one can do to exact change from "outside" a system (ie. without capital in a capitalist world). > Forgive me for typing up so much sludge so quickly, I have never had a civil conversation with staunch ancoms but I have hope in lainons so I got really into it. And unfortunately, you'll rarely ever again. Hopefully the tone of my reply continues this trend.

i am a crypto-centrist

http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?p0=33&p1=40&c0=17&femi=10&c1=79&b1=88&b0=5&s1=98&j0=31&j1=55&t0=69&t1=7&e0=69&e1=12&m1=19&m0=52&comp=100&reli=100&mona=67 I guess I won't get much love but here you go.

>let me datamine this chan

http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?j1=24&j0=55&t0=40&t1=40&c1=24&c0=19&s1=24&s0=50&comp=67&p1=33&p0=43&femi=19&m1=14&m0=67&b0=26&b1=36&e1=43&e0=40&prag=67

>>7223 What possible threat model are you imagining here?

>>7226 Any socio-economic-political subversions are at potentially at play here. "Them" (whoever it might be) might use info here to do anything they plan with it. From advertisement to social engineering of selected target audience to political subversion. Mind you, it takes just a handful of good psychologists and enough info about the target to make it into a puppet in no time.

>>7229 >Mind you, it takes just a handful of good psychologists and enough info about the target to make it into a puppet in no time. I see. What is the probability that an actor that has enough resources to fund a handful of good psychologists will ever operate on lainchan?

>>7230 To know what is probability of something like that we should have a refference, no? I assume empiric probability is best in this scenario because aprior can't be determined. But even then, can you honestly say you knew when you interacted with someone who socially engineered you into acting a certain way compared to someone who you simply had an honest interaction with? No? Oh ok.

>>7231 A priori* probability

>>7229 >Mind you, it takes just a handful of good psychologists and enough info about the target to make it into a puppet in no time. No it doesn't. Taking over a forum is way harder than that. Read some of the leaked documents they have on the subject. It can take many months of multiple people working in concert (also you want actors/liars more than psychs). >>7231 >I assume empiric probability is best in this scenario because aprior can't be determined. No soykaf. More importantly, nobody has the resources and inclination to come after us with anything but the most automated of tactics. An imageboard of at the most 1000 people who aren't politically active or otherwise a particular threat or asset is a very low priority target. Then there's the fact that the data is being presented as images making it more difficult to process. Not only is it not worth anyone's time, it's a mile away from it. >But even then, can you honestly say you knew when you interacted with someone who socially engineered you into acting a certain way compared to someone who you simply had an honest interaction with? What's the difference? If someone comes up to me and says "Hey, do you want to go swimming with me?" and I agree, was that an honest interaction or social engineering? He went into it with the aim of getting me to do something but then maybe I just wanted to go swimming. The trick to not being manipulated is not losing sight of your goals. Then, even if you are pushed towards something, it's something that furthers your own goals as well.

>>7231 If you have no priors as to the probability of the activity, the likelihood of it being true is equal to any other activity that you have no priors of. As such, "We shouldn't post these because aliens will kidnap anyone with a revolution score > 50%" is an equally valid statement. The set of all statements that you have no prior of is unbounded and thus nonsensical for understanding a threat model.

i'm kind of proud

I can't be bothered doing the political compass test as it is biased nonsense in that it puts almost everyone with non-extreme views in the libertarian left quadrant (although that is where I actually belong) while claiming almost all mainstream politicians are well into the authoritarian right quadrant. The 8values test gave me Libertarian Socialist which is what I'd consider myself anyway so it worked for me, although I dislike how loaded some of the questions are. There seems to be reasonable variety in this thread (besides for the obvious favoritism towards liberty and progress) so it looks less to possibly be less biased although I'd like to see results from other communities as well.

>>7386 >>7291 >>7214 The 8values test is so fuarrrking soykaf. Whoever wrote it is just a liberal arts student at an American college.

>>7291 Nice to see some like minded lainons.

but I hate reagan

>>7549 Found the LARPagan. The Iron Guard would have probably crucified the lot of you.

Please note that 'pride' was actually an honorable virtue in pre-christian, european societies.

OK, let's go. You can start stoning already.

>>7556 1343 will commence again

>only 89% capitalist and 56% libertarian I need to git gud.

>>7579 And there I am.

>>7603 Who's the guy in the bottom left corner?

>>7604 Foucault

>>7206 Thanks lainon, this one is nice. I like the inclusion of constructivism vs. essentialism as I think that explains a lot of the fundamental difference in views people have when they argue about politics and philosophy et. al. I got what I expected more or less. Though other political tests tend to peg me as a nationalist due to how some questions are phrased. This one seemed to distinguish a bit better.

>>7576 This image basicly says every single person with an ideology is soykaf and I agree

Just took the test, here's my results.

The additional characteristic (the icon at the bottom) is "Pragmatism : politics objectively boil down to looking at where the problems are and trying to solve them according to the means available."

You can currently download the html for Sapplycompass on github, the actual site is dead.

>>7653 Thanks, I was wondering where it went. Pretty lackluster for me though as of now. This test seems like garbage, although it's a bit better than the basic political compass test. I tried to do a Filteries test to negate this, but they have made it way too convoluted. Look at this soykaf, they want me to fill out how I run every single financial sector. Do I really want to spend an hour filling out a sea of percentages? It was better a year or so ago.

It's okay. The badges are Pragmatism and Monarchism.

Despite the results, I actually do consider myself a Nationalist, just not in the way most western/anglo media uses the term. I'm a nationalist in the political science sense (a country has the right to self-determination), as opposed to a xenophobe who just doesn't want to deal with foreigners. I'm also probably slightly more of an essentialist than the results show. The results say I lean more towards communism than Capitalism but It's probably the reverse. Peace - Equality - Humanity is not a bad tagline, as I use the term "Peace and Justice" as a byword, taken from the art of Shepard Fairey. https://www.lainchan.org/r/src/1523019672540.png

>>7627 > Pragmatism : politics objectively boil down to looking at where the problems are and trying to solve them according to the means available Everyone believes this about their own ideology, and that the other ideologies are all based on either lies, bad science or silly idealism. Everyone.

>>7658 many people think politics is more about "winning" for your "side". I doubt the test can pick that up though.

>>7658 >>7669 These two are not mutually exclusive. We fool ourselves into thinking we're these upstanding, rational creatures but really we're just monkeys with shoes.

>>7669 You're certainly not wrong. They only care about winning for their side which is of course the correct side to be on and the most "pragmatic".

The eight values test was written by an idiot. Stop using it.

>>7670 I'm not so sure. Lots of people couldn't give you a reason for believing what they believe.

>>7549 metamorphosis

Green quadrant is best quadrant

>>7672 All of these tests are stupid. The framing of questions always the particular bias of the very wise people who created them. It's probably unavoidable.

>>3286 These questions are limited by people's inability to comprehend graphs over 2 dimensions. If you did this soykaf right it'd look like a lorenz atractor or some soykaf.

>>8015 8values has a 4-dimensional output. Adding more dimensions should be trivial.

On Political Compass I was right in the bottom left corner but that was a year ago. Pretty sure it's extremely biased so I didn't want to retake it. I have a lot of bias toward communist and anarchist stuff, so my stats may be a bit off.

very different from what i expected, but i guess it makes sense

>>7542 nice!