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Eye-Opening Media Compilation Project

Mario Rossi · 2017-06-05 08:14
(Not being posted in any of the culture boards, as this is for all varieties of media, not only /lit/, /vis/, /inter/, etc. Move if need be) I've been wanting to compile a large variety of "eye-opening" media, and then to organize it by increasing gradation. For me, there was much media that helped me to see things as I do now, to question things, be wary of the government, and see the various flaws in society. Anything that encourages free thought or distrust in assumptions/governments is what I am aiming for. My idea is to organize it in such a way that a "program" can be made of it to introduce to people to help them to "wake up". Intro-tier would have to be "accessible" enough as not to cause any conditioned aversion toward it, and to gradually increase the concepts as you move higher on the list. As far as the media medium itself, music and movies are better introductions than interactive media or books/podcasts. Here's a sample of my current, unorganized list: Movies >The Matrix (and sequels?) >ARQ >Contact >District 9 >Fight Club >Johnny Got His Gun >Soylent Green >The Truman Show >Avatar(?) (Not air-bender) >Repo Men Music As far as intro-tier music goes- easily accessible, discernible lyrics, and subtle, thought-provoking themes (or perhaps just music that strays from standard musical trends in any way, but perhaps this works better for a higher tier). Basically, to subversively convey ideas and plant "seeds of doubt", to make conditionally foreign ideas more accessible and familiar. Similar to what current media is doing by forceful immersion. >Crystal Castles >Amnesia Scanner >Front Line Assembly >Machinae Supremacy >Mankind Is Obsolete >Oceanlab >Brendan Byrnes Books Intro-tier would be mostly fiction, and higher tiers would include non-fiction. >1984 - George Orwell >Brave New World - Aldous Huxley >Fight Club - Chuck Paluhniuk >Anthem - Ayn Rand >Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand >Lord of the Flies - William Golding >Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte >The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood >The Giver - Lois Lowry >Gathering Blue - Lois Lowry >Ender's Game (Perhaps series?) This is pretty general so far, so help me to refine by giving suggestions and questioning what I put here
Zhora · 2017-06-05 09:03
These are mine favorites: >Movies - Dogville - Idiocracy - Stalker (Tarkovsky) - Inception - Interstellar - 2001: Space Odyssey - The Wall - Shiki Jitsu (2000) - The Red Thin Line (1998) - Arrival (2016) >Animated movies - Grave of the Fireflies - Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence - Akira - Princess Mononoke - Paprika - Perfect Blue - My friend Totoro - Spirited Away - 5 centimeters per second - Only Yesterday (1991) - Waking Life - Kotonoha no niwa - 5 centimeters per second >Animes - Fullmetal Alchemist - Mushishi - Aoi Bungaku - Ergo Proxy - Monster - Serial Experiments Lain - Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995 and End of Evangelion) - Black Lagoon - Shigatsu - Ghost Hound - Psycho-Pass - Plastic Memories - Natsume Yuujinchou >Music - Pink Floyd - Chopin (especially Tristesse and Marcha Funebre) - Beethoven (especially Moonlight Sonata) - Eric Satie (especially Gymnopedie) - Samuel Barber (especially Adagio for Strings) - Ludovico Einaudi - Hans Zimmer >Game - The Last of Us - Portal (?) Oh men, there's so many things I forgot. There's tons of movies that changed my way to perceive things, I just can't remember all of them...
Hagbard Celine · 2017-06-05 16:08
So basically a inform? A Gentle Introduction by Moldbug.
Switch · 2017-06-05 17:27
Movies >A Clockwork Orange (1971) >Fight Club (1999) >Easy Rider (1969) >Repo Man (1984) >Taxi Driver (1976) >Mindwalk (1990) >The Ninth Configuration (1980) TV >Monkey (1978) (TV Series) >The Prisoner (1967) (TV Series) Lit >The Lottery, by Shirley Jackson >Fight Club, by Chuck Palahniuk >The Illuminatus! trilogy, by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson. >A Clockwork Orange, by Anthony Burgess >The Dice Man, by George Cockcroft writing as Luke Rhinehart >The Book, by Alan Watts >The 48 Laws Of Power, by Robert Greene >Jonathan Livingston Seagull, by Richard Bach >Musashi, by Eiji Yoshikawa >Magick, Liber ABA, Book 4, by Aleister Crowley >The Final Programme, by Michael Moorcock >Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, by Robert M. Pirsig >VALIS, by Phillip K. Dick >Tao of Jeet Kune Do, by Bruce Lee >Ninja Mind Control, by Ashida Kim >The Ticket That Exploded, by William S. Burroughs Comics >Transmetropolitan, by Warren Ellis >The Invisibles, by Grant Morrison >MW, by Osamu Tezuka Games >The Stanley Parable >Bureaucracy >The Prisoner >Deus Ex Machina
Marly Krushkhova · 2017-06-05 19:13
Are there any good non-fiction books that are really eye-opening? I'm slightly disappointed that your movie lists consist mostly of Hollywood pictures. Most of them are just red-painted blue pills.
The Fin · 2017-06-05 19:16
>>3262 wow it's strange to se things like dogville, stalker, lain or Chopin in the same list with Einaudi, Zimmer and fullmetal alchemist and 5cm per second. Not wanting to critizice, but those are probably directed to completely different targets
Netrunner · 2017-06-05 19:35
Books >The Crypto Anarchists Manifesto - Timothy C. May >Free Software, Free Society - Richard Stallman >Il Principe - Niccolò Machiavelli >Meditations - Marc Aurel >Little Brother - Cory Doctorow >Homeland - Cory Doctorow >Leviathan - Thomas Hobbes >It Can't Happen Here - Sinclair Lewis >Imperial Ambitions - Noam Chomsky >Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media - Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky Music >The Downward Spiral - Nine Inch Nails >The Fragile - Nine Inch Nails >Year Zero - Nine Inch Nails >Kid A - Radiohead
Faye Valentine · 2017-06-06 01:46
>>3273 In my opinion, good art is not limited by a demographic/target. Ludovico Einaudi and Hans Zimmer are the two best composers of our time (together with Hiroyuki Sawano), in my opinion. Fullmetal Alchemist changed my life and the way I saw things, about 10 years ago. It has a big amount of philosophy in it, especially if you understand that it's all an allegory. 5 centimeters per second is more soft, but the design is fantastic, together with all the works from Shinkai.
Hiro Protagonist · 2017-06-06 01:47
>>3272 Phisolophy books. I'd suggest Beyond Good and Evil and Thus Spoke Zarathustra, from Nietzsche.
Nobody important · 2017-06-06 01:48
>>3280 philosophy*
Nameless · 2017-06-06 13:13
>>3271 Some more I should pimp. Lit >Smallcreep's Day, by Peter Currell Brown >Steppenwolf, by Hermann Hesse >Harrison Bergeron, by Kurt Vonnegut Jr. >The Naked Lunch, and The Wild Boys: A Book of the Dead, by William S. Burroughs >Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, by Hunter S. Thompson. Movies >Heavy Traffic (1973) >Circle of Iron (1978) Games >Prey (2017) Comics >St. Swithin's Day, and Kill Your Boyfriend, by Grant Morrison
Yuki Nagato · 2017-06-06 16:01
Booklet/Pamphlet: Revolutionary self-theory
Ender · 2017-06-06 20:26
Books: > Feral Faun - Feral Revolution > Max Stirner - The Ego and Its Own > Larry Law - Revolutionary Self-Theory > Anonymous - At Daggers Drawn with the Existent, its Defenders and its False Critics > Guy Debord - The Society of The Spectacle > Oscar Wilde - The Soul of Man under Socialism > Erich Fromm - The Art of Loving > Jacques Rancière - The Ignorant Schoolmaster > Thomas Ligotti - The Conspiracy against the Human Race > Clarice Lispector - The Hour of the Star Probably useless now, but all the anarchist propaganda in HackThisZine and on HackThisSite was what first introduced me to radical politics.
Miho Iwakura · 2017-06-07 07:10
lit: >Animal Farm by George Orwell >The Heart is a Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers
J.C. Denton · 2017-06-09 03:32
>>3272 >Most of them are just red-painted blue pills Intro-tier is basically like that- just to hopefully plant the idea. My thought is that, out of order, it only reenforces and encompasses ideas into the common conditioning, but if we organize them into specific order of exposure we might cause this to change.
Emmanuel · 2017-06-09 15:07
Here's my contribution. Let's get this tread going. >Movies The Game (1997) Coherence (2013) (SF) The Usual Suspects (1995) Seven years in Tibet (1995) Mulholland Drive (2001) Dark City (1998) (SF) Pi (1998) <- fuarrrking awesome A scanner Darkly (2011) (SF) Strange Days (1995) (SF) Apocalypse Now (1979) Requiem For A Dream (2000) The Silence of the Lambs (1991) >Documentaries Going Clear : Scientology and the prison of Belief (2015) 1971 (2014) Into Eternity (2011) <- fuarrrking awesome The Last Man on the Moon (2014) Citizen Four (2014) Jodorowsky's Dune (2015) >Documentaries - Experimental Tier Samsara (2011) Visitors (2013) >Series Westworld (SF) Black Mirror (SF) >Games H A L F L I F E
Yet Another Lainon · 2017-06-09 16:27
>>3273 Fiiine, I shall DIG DEEPER. Movies >Koyaanisqatsi (1982) >Borders (1989) >Beyond Lemuria (2007) >Arise! The SubGenius Video (1992) >Bliss (1985) >Tetsuo, the Iron Man (1989) >El Topo (1970) >The Holy Mountain (1973) >Santa Sangre (1989) >Tough Guys Don't Dance (1987) >The Final Programme (1973) >Liquid Sky (1982) >Decoder (1984) >Forbidden Zone (1980) >Vinyl (1965) >Pink Flamingos (1972) >Reflections of Evil (2002) >Angel's Egg (1985) >Naked Lunch (1991) >Cemetery Man (1994) Comics >V For Vendetta, by Alan Moore >Cerebus The Aardvark, by Dave Sim >Maus, by Art Spiegelman Lit >Finnegan's Wake, by James Joyce >Stranger In A Strange Land, by Robert A. Heinlein >Venus On The Half Shell, by Philip Jose Farmer writing as Kilgore Trout >Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid, by Douglas Hofstadter >Knots, by R. D. Laing >Walking on Glass, by Iain Banks >Freedom Beach, by John Kessel >The Doors of Perception, by Aldous Huxley Games >Endorfun >The Endless Forest >Yume Nikki >L.S.D. Dream Simulator Generally, Philip K. Dick, Fritjof Capra, Buckminster Fuller and John Sladek.
Cypher · 2017-06-10 01:57
The things which really had an impact on my life were: >Pokémon cause it made my childhood >everything by Monty Python cause they contribuited to build the type of sense of humor i have now, and also their works reveal a lot of society's spooks >Freud's case studies, in particular the little Hans one cause it got me into psychoanalysis when i was 13/14, i see the world and people in a completely different way since then. Probably the most eye-opening thing i can think of >Evangelion (saw it a month after discovering Freud's work because i heard it had some of his themes in it) cause it got me into japanese shiet and, obviously >the Internet and its own ""subculture"" I wouldn't be there, without it. I have to admit that i read very few political theory, but in my defense i can say that in my country it is still very common among young people to be interested in radical left politics, so i keep myself updated discussing it a lot IRL with my friends, at school and in occupied places. Since someone simply made his favourite media list, i'll write mine (most of them are actually eye-opening, anyway) books >The Moro affair, by Leonardo Sciascia >Solaris, by Stanislav Lem (I have seen Tarkovskij's movie too, but i have to admit i didn't get it very much, i prefer the book) >Hitchhiker's guide to galaxy, by Douglas Adams >Invisible Cities, by Italo Calvino >Crime and punishment, by Dostoevskij (i really really liked the characters even if i was in disagreement with the book message) >stories of Cronopios and Famas, by Julio Cortázar >One hundred years of solitude, by gabriel garcia marquez >A series of unfortunate events, by Lemony Snicket >A scanner darkly, by Philip K. Dick >Everything by Sigmund Freud >various short stories by Luigi Pirandello and Philip K. Dick movies >A clockwork orange, by Stanley Kubrick >Also Lolita, Fullmetal Jacket and Doctor Strangelove, but my favorite is A clockwork orange >The milky way by Luis Buñuel >also The discreet charm of the burguoisie and the Phantom of liberty, but my favorite is The milky way >Fight club by David Fincher >Django unchained, by Quentin Tarantino >everything by Monty Python >Everything by Alberto Sordi, but in particular The scientific Cardplayer anime top tier >FLCL by studio Gainax >Neon Genesis Evangelion & The end of Evangelion, by studio Gainax directed by Hideaki Anno >Sayonara Zetsubuo-sensei, by studio Shaft >Serial Experiments Lain, by Yosoykafoshi Abe >Welcome to the NHK, by studio Gonzo >everything by Miyazaki, but in particular Spirited Away and Nausicaa cause childhood 'n feels a-little-step-lower-but-still-very-good tier >Kill la Kill, by studio Trigger >monogatari series, by studio Shaft directed by Akiyuki Shinbo >Mawaru Penguindrum, directed by Kunihiko Ikuhara >Konosuba, by studio Deen >Psycho Pass (dunno who made it) >Steins Gate (dunno who made it) >Ghost in the shell (1996 movie) >i'm also watching Kaiba and Dennou Coil, and i love them but i still have to finish them About manga: >I read very few of them, the only one quite good i read was Homunculus and still found it nothing impressive. I also read kuragehime first number and i really liked it but i have no money for the others :( About comics: >I only used to read comic stripes such as mafalda, bettle bailey, peanuts or bloom county. The only good long stories i read in my life were in my native language (if someone is interested, but i doubt, they are those by sergio staino, panebarco and andrea pazienza) About theatre: >i like it a lot but every performance is unrepeatable so it is pointless to tell you the best i've seen. Anyway the only authors i read instead of seeing them live and still enjoy are Bertolt Brecht and Friedrich Dürrenmatt. bideo games >every pokémon (soulsilver my favorite) >every zelda (twilight princess my favorite) >Golden Sun GBA and Fire Emblem GBA (both good to emulate on phone) >the last story (action-jrpg made by Sakaguchi for nintendo wii, definitely worth trying) >bravely default >portal 2 >Phenix Whright: Ace Attorney >Demon's/Dark souls >The Stanley Parable >Bioshock 1/infinite >Valkyria Chronicles Music (even tough i don't listen to it very much) rock: >System of a Down >Coaltar of the Deepers >Fair to Midland >Mars Volta classical >Bach's matthaus passion >Stravinski's petrushka groups from my country (in the rare case some who can understand italian is reading) >CCCP fedeli alla linea >Caparezza >artificial kid - numero 47 (a rap album with all the lyrics centered about cyberpunk themes, very cool) vaporwave and subgenres >Axian youtube channel uploads >Artzie Music >Night Tempo >Moe Shop >Macintosh Plus Floral Shoppe >r plus seven by Oneohtrix point never >ramune and snail's house stuff, even if i dunno if they're still considered vaporwave lolicore/breakcore >notyoulolicoredealer youtube channel uploads >itslike3am youtube channel uploads >philemanmania youtube channel uploads >in particular Ganz Schmutzig (just discovered him), Shako Pani and, my favorite, goresoykaf not under any category but still music for internet autists >Moe Jazz, by studio tram, and in general blopa dh uploads ok, finished. I hope i haven't gone too off topic and i hope too that i haven't forgotten anything and that someone will read this, since it ended up that writing it took me more than an hour...
Nell · 2017-06-10 02:08
>>3391 >i hope i haven't forgotten anything i'm such a fool i forgot lars von trier's "the idiots" in the movie section
Bob Arctor · 2017-06-10 18:01
A lot of mine were already mentioned. I'll add the four Neurosis albums from the mid to late 90s: > Souls at Zero > Enemy of the Sun > Through Silver In Blood > Times of Grace (...the last of which has a companion album by Tribes of Neurot called Grace and the two can be listened to seperately or simultaneously. Look up the instructions online). Most of their other stuff is good, but those four are special. People of a certain age group into this type of music frequently say things like, this was the closest thing to religion they ever knew. There's some Colombian band by the same name; avoid.
OP · 2017-06-13 17:49
OP here. This is only step 1, compiling a lot of the media itself. Step 2 is to organize it, which we should start doing soon. I'm going to be consuming some of the media that's been listed and will try to help in organization. For now, try to organize your postings into different "levels". We also need to organize the tiers themselves- how many to have, what each should contain and describe, what to name them (largely redundant, but potentially helpful in organization), etc.
OP · 2017-06-14 05:06
>>3262 >The Wall Which one do you mean?
Leto Atreides I · 2017-06-14 12:59
>>3448 I'm not >>3262, but I guess he was talking about the one made by Pink Floyd.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2017-06-15 05:48
>>3391 >Pokémon In which way has Pokemon "opened your eyes" so to say? I believe that many lainons have watched Pokemon when they were younger, however I can not see Pokemon as eye-opening media.
Dujour · 2017-06-15 10:41
>>3457 eye-opening isn't exactly the right word, in effect, but not totally wrong. I realized all the other media in the first part of the list were very life-changing, other than eye-opening, and pokémon probably was one of the more life-changing things for me. It's not particularly interesting to play for an adult, but for a child it is a total mindfuck. First: when you're a child, you open your eyes about a lot of things, and i did it on almost all of these throught pokémon. 90% of relationships with other children i had were based on pokémon (i still have friends that i've meet in childhood through pokemon), i discovered internet and forums searching for pokémon stuff, it got me into vidya and computers, and the game itself is based on that (very educational) sense of independence which is present in a lot of media that children enjoy (for instance Kiki Delivery Service), but more strong cause it is a videogame and the identification between the player and the protagonist is almost perfect. Pokémon is, if played under the right conditions, both eye-opening and life-changing. In a single world i would say it is formative. Certainly it possible to answer back saying that everything can be formative for a child, cause they are growing up so every media they consume it is going to change their way of thinking. This is partially right, but IMHO Pokémon is made in a way that makes it more effective in doing it than most of other media are. Anyway i don't think anyone who read the list is less than 12 years old, so i put it more for completeness than with the purpose to make people play it. P.S. Game-Freak didn't pay me for writing this
fsociety · 2017-06-15 10:43
>>3457 Oh, and i didn't notice your "watching". I was obviously referring to the videogame, the anime is almost pure garbage
Dr. X · 2017-06-15 20:49
>>3453 That's right, I was referring to the movie of the Pink Floyd album. I'm >>3262 , btw.
Incognito · 2017-06-19 01:14
>>3459 >the anime is almost pure garbage I could agree with the later stuff (Diamond and Pearl onward), but the "originals" were great to me, even if only for nostalgia
OP · 2017-07-22 23:53
As for tiers I'm thinking something like >Intro-tier: Red-painted Blue pills (Subtle themes/ideas [not likely a significant part of whatever work], just a means of suggesting/introducing foreign ideas in a non-threatening way) >Tier2: Blue-painted Red pills (Foreign ideas a larger, significant portion of the work, yet still masked under mainstream ideals so as not to cause deterrence) >Tier3: Pure Red pills (Now including non-fiction works that are contrary to mainstream conditioning) I don't feel those are enough tiers, though. Any feedback? I need help further specifying what should go into each tier and expanding the number of tiers. Once we determine the whole tier-system, we'll need to start organizing our media lists into them.
OP · 2017-07-22 23:58
>>3272 Can you list some movies that you feel are more than just masked blue pills?
Joe Bloggs · 2017-07-23 00:30
>>4307 > blue pills painted as red pills painted as blue pills when you think something is deep but society and critics write it off as as childish or hack work but you think that's the genius because its just pretending to be commercial pap on the surface but actually you're wrong because its junk but so are the critics but like they are wrong for the wrong reasons
OP · 2017-08-04 07:59
Unsure how I feel about automatically including anything just for having dystopian themes. In support of inclusion, it introduces and suggests distrust in the system and it seems a good starting point, to subtly suggest how things may go were we to change nothing. But, I feel like all such media has already essentially been weaponized against this to reaffirm "orthodox" ideals. Examples are how they may solidify ideas as to what a dystopia is- overt and obvious (not like ours), such work likely is used to exploit this and create the false security that we are far from dystopia as our society appears quite different from common dystopias. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?