Political images n memes

I wonder if it's possible to have a chill political discussion. This isn't the thread of course, I just want to share cringy pol memes.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST (Rule 4), Always elaborate on your opinions, Write a less soykaf OP next time.)

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despook urselves, heh

what the fuarrrk

I have lots of commie memes saved, but they are all in my native language so i dunno how to counter-attack on an english IB. Sorry Lenin-kun, i failed again

>>3015 Ah, I still need to read the breadbook

Morality is a flood

And finally, some aesthetic.

>>3014 I guess I don't get the joke here. The only people who take guys like that seriously are themselves and other people just like them... certainly not anarchists or radfems.

sneks incoming

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too many yellow sneks. More red.

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this thread is fun

>>3096 >posting the same thing three times wew

>>3097 Different people may like different versions. It's hard to understand, I know.

>>3020 Post anyway! At least a few of the ones you like most.

it's been fun, but I gotta go. Keep postin' chumrades.

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I found engrish memes on my pc! Best ones are still in my native language, but i'll translate some of them. Meanwhile here are the others

that's all for now

>>3116 I don't know why it wouldn't let me post text with those two images. Anyways. Right Wing Safety Squads was one of the funniest things to come out of pol. The ultimate concern troll: defeating the degenerates with fire codes for their own well being. And it happened in the winter too. Imagine having to spend Christmas on the streets or in a shelter because some autists decided it would be funny to play fire inspector.

>>3117 LOL YEAH SO FUNNY THAT PEOPLE LITERALLY COULD HAVE DIED. I'M LAUGHING SO HARD.

>>3117 How is giving churches and social services more people to expend resources on during a time of year when they are already strained a victory for anyone? > some autists decided it would be funny Oh my mistake... I understand now.

>>3131 >>3132 And the best part was that it disproportionately impacted PoCs, LGBTQ+ folk, undocumented Americans, mentally ill folk, and survivors of sexual abuse and domestic violence. Because that's the type of riff raff that lives in poz palaces such as the Ghost Ship.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST (Rule 3,4),Always argue in good faith,Always elaborate on your opinions. Please keep supporting text to describing the associated cringy pol meme.)

holy soykaf is this the work of one person? If it is i'm pretty impressed. You sure love political memes.

>>3148 No. It's me and at least one other lainon posting the right wing memes and at least one lainon posting the gommie memes.

>>3152 Why is the midget punching that lady?

>>3154 more importantly, why are the people in the background wearing bicycle helmets

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>>3154 >lady low standards tbh

Also google for revolutionary self-theory.

>>3374 >google Irony is so good I could probably make iron bat from it and break your kneecaps with it user boi hipster fagget(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST (Rule 3,4) Avoid personal attacks, Elaborate on your opinions.)

>>3376 Yeah, ironic, but you know, it became a standard term for 'use a search engine'.

>>3378 i always tell people to duckduckgo stuff

>>3379 I should get used to it too, but haven't yet.

>>3374 Why do you keep posting the thumbnail

>>3381 I must have forgot. Still, it's worthwhile to post. And now I saved yours.

Source: http://politicalideologycatgirls.com/

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>>3460 >>3463 Most of these comics are broken across multiple images, but you're only posting the first image of each comic so a lot of them are jsut the first half of that page without the punchline?

>>3464 soykaf I noticed that now too.

OK, here is the prologue:

The rest of the prologue and part 1:

Other parts will follow soon.

>>3475 But comrade, have you not heard from the politburo ? Catgirls have no place in communism and drawing them will get you sent to Gulag! At least in certain gatherings of identity driven commies, it is rather interesting how that plays out.

>>3462 Wonder why nihilism cat is so dark. Is it because she is the abyss incarnate? Can't wait for Anarcho-syndie cat. She was the cutest.

Sort of sad that the right wing cats aren't given a lot of spotlight. Fascism cat seems pretty interesting; on the front page of the website you can see her giving Stalinist cat a steely glare.

>>3480 Is socialist agitprop, do you expect them to? Assuming I remember the catgirl site correctly.

>>3481 I figured, but you'd expect them to flesh out the characters more in order to make them laughing stocks. But no, they fall into relative obscurity even though their presence in real life is anything besides.

>>3482 well, most of the characters only get a couple panels. There are only like 8 comics.

>>3479 This will literally be explained in one of the comics. Part 2_

>>3015 What's the book on the table?

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>>4214 How your infographic is soykaf: >die from lack of clean water >clean water Capitalism isn't at fault here. Actually capitalism tries to help people get clean water to those in need (for paying of service to get it there). Socialism wouldn't solve this problem. + clean water isn't capitalisms fault. There would be deaths from lack of clean water even if capitalism wasn't in place. This is some kind of fallacy trying to imply that these deaths wouldn't have happened if we changed into socialism in those places that need clean water. >die of hunger I actually blame socialism here. Charities (voluntary redistribution of money and resources == voluntary socialism) actually destroys any kind of possibility for local economies to form, or to even have multinational corps come in and win the market by monopoly (because there is no profit if people get soykaf for free). >die from curable disease Doctors will not work for free. You would have to put a gun up their heads to work. This is how you form communism, not socialism. >die of malaria Capitalists are already searching for solutions to this problem. I actually remember seeing one GMO corp making a mosquito that has genes that make it die out in few generations but has bigger sexual reproduction than other mosquitos, so eventually they would breed with malaria mosquitos and wipe them out with sheer numbers and then die out in few generations..... Actually, I don't remember seeing any socialist/communist care about these issues (on any practical "let's solve this problem" level other than blame it on someone like "da capitalists") Nice looking picture tho

btw for all you dumbos posting leftist memes thinking they are working, here is one of your guys debunking your beliefs

>>4217 Most if not all of those could be easily solved with only a fraction of the wealth hoarded by the richest people on the earth. Socialists want to solve this problem by producing to satisfy actual human needs (not just ones with buying power behind them), not for profit. See this, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnIsdVaCnUE

>>4219 >could be easily solved with only a fraction of the wealth hoarded by the richest people on the earth Why should they give money to them? Why do they deserve it? Because they are alive? Well, then I just might make 200 babies then and have then all under "starving and dying" just so rich can sustain them, no? You might not understand this but people have value. Value to others in the economic system. A Kenyan guy having 6 babies even though he can barely feed 1 on his own is idiot that shouldn't be allowed to breed. A smart guy working his way up the ladder and having lot of value to other people is worthy of having a lot of babies. Just blindly giving money to those that breed it away will solve nothing. Capitalism is the only system where problems are solved themselves by people willing to solve problems for something in return. Any other system needs an autocracy to sustain itself.

>>4219 btw >"they are not giving me money, therefore they are responsible for my death" is dumb logic Go get a job and stop whining.

>>4219 Same kind of logic can be applied to you. Aren't you responsible for all those dying right now? Can't you sell your PC and give money for that hungry hungry Hippo in Kenya?

You can't win an meme war

>>4218 >dat pic >realizes leftists can't into humor because they take themselves too seriously >proceeds to write an exhaustive treatise on the phenomenon instead of lightening the fuarrrk up wew

>>4217 >>4218 >>4219 >>4220 >>4221 >>4222 >>4224 HEY THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR SERIOUS DISCUSSION GET THIS soykaf OUTTA HERE

>>4225 >complains about derailing a thread >on /b/ w e w

>>4226 you're clearly not from around here chummer

>>4229 see the sticky >This is not the board to use for purely random and nonsensical topics. The same rules and expectations sitewide apply to this board. >Do not create threads in which no discussion is expected to occur, e.g. dumping threads.

>>4231 and? Mods have explicitly said this thread is fine as long is it doesn't turn into /civ/ 2: Electric Boogaloo. Guess what writing a 200-word post on why leftie memes are bad does?

>>4222 >rich people who hoard money they got from exploiting others is the same as someone who lives from paycheck to paycheck Are you dumb?

>>4234 >neurosuggesting you aren't exploiting others too You have a PC, don't you? That's a luxury, not really "living from paycheck to paycheck". You and your forefathers exploited other people, why don't you give back where it's due?

>>4237 life isn't a zero-sum game. I don't have to live as an ascetic to help others.

>>4238 >life isn't a zero-sum game There is limited amount of manpower, resources and ultimately time. What about it isn't zero-sum?

>>4237 >>4238 Let me explain something to you guys. Under capitalism there is absolutely no ethical consumption whatsoever. Even if you use the greenest most whatever friendly product, even if you adopt a DiY lifestyle, in capitalism someone somewhere is getting exploited. You adopted a DiY lifestyle, but who made your hammer? So you decided to go to the woods and abandon civilisation... Who made your axe? Are you gonna go the full way and not even use an axe but just use a rock wedge that you made by hammering two rocks into each other? Are you gonna go full caveman? Probably not, and I hope for yourself that you won't. That's why I as a socialist don't feel guilty if I get myself sometimes some luxury. Because since there is no ethical consumption under capitalism anyways then, IT DOES NOT REALLY MATTER. Remember a very good quote: The last capitalist will be hung by the rope he sold us. I am not advocating killing anyone but this can be read as there is no shame in turning capitalist products against them(Same way as any capitalist would do to any socialist really). What I do however do is not buy from companies I consider 'worst offenders'. The same way that Stallman boycotts Coca Cola: https://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html Also when I know of a workers strike I boycott the offending company even though it is not on the offending company list. And I would never dream to apply to a strike breaking job position or go trough a picket line. Also my phone was not made by capitalism, it was made by the same entity that makes products under any system, it was made by a worker(OK more of it was made by machines nowadays but the worker is still in there).

And honestly the whole fact that you have to rent your entire existence for 8 hours each day just for basic survival is evidence of how little society has progressed since feudalism. Someone might suggest self employment etc, but knowing the plight of the slef employed or even worse the precariat, I say this is even worse. In capitalism we are slaves to market demand. In state socialism as it was tried I might have not had that much but at least I had time to enjoy a good barbecue with my family(most days not just weekends), I had time to read Nietsche and Aristotle, and if I was an artist or entertainer I had the freedom to not bend my art to market demand( >i.e. I could make an anime that is not a moeblob) I don't know about the soviet union, but socialist Yugoslavia, which unlike most other socialist regimes had a less restrictive regime, had a BOOMING culture which all died in the war and the transition to capitalism.

>>4240 >>4241 >>4242 post an image or gtfo

>>4243 I guess I forgot that...

>>4241 >its okay for me to break my own moral vode because then I am contributing to dismantling the system Nice justification, bet you sleep snugly at night having all those luxury stuff knowing they were made by exploitation To me it would feel horrivle knowing that. Playing pretend revolutionary whilst soykafting on your moral compass? Thats hard. >>4243 I'll do what I want K tnx bye

>>4247 If you feel bad about living from exploitation of others then do something about it bro.

>>4242 So you lived in Yugoslavia? I think in the current climate we need something that is neither capitalist nor communist. Both political ideologies are tainted by their histories. We need something that fits the current eco-political climate. Something that takes into account that we have the internet now.

>>4247 >>4255 >>4256 >something neither capitalist nor communist there are two options there: compromise the core of your economic program to the capitalists and change very little, or implement something that leftists have been talking about with centuries but call it something new. Look into mutualism, anarcho-communism, collectivism, the various models of participatory economics, etc. for examples of economic/political ideas that aren't what you were told communism is. Many of them can easily be updated to the 21st century. Also: post images or die in a hole.

>>4268 >there are two options there No. That is a fallacy, a false dichotomy. >post images or die in a hole. I will already do that so IDGAF

>>4268 Also your meme is dumb

>>4269 but the food and tools were 100% necessary for survival?

>>4293 not really. They could have foraged. Much like a phone, (provided) food and farming implements are just tools that make humans more efficient. The analogy stands.

>>4295 A cell phone isn't necessary, but it definitely helps complete a lot of tasks, just like internet. While you could forage for food, is that any way to live? Perhaps you could start a farm, but then someone who has a gun and no food could just kill you and take the farm. Anarchy in it's purest form will never work due to selfishness and human nature. All forms of government fight the same battle: The fight between the haves and the have-not. There will always be a selfish individual who will be willing to kill and steal from others to increase his own wealth and gain. Anarchy won't fix that.

>>4298 >While you could forage for food, is that any way to live? nope, that's why I consume goods made under capitalism. >There will always be a selfish individual who will be willing to kill and steal from others to increase his own wealth and gain. Anarchy won't fix that. The point of anarchism is to construct a society where being self-serving and greedy is not rewarded.

>>4299 whupsie, forgot my image.

>>4304 >race mixing is communism sign me up!

>I WANT TO BE A WIZARD

>>4300 The irony of anarchists is that they don't realize that anarchy is the base state over which politics grow. We already live in anarchy.

>>4302 Man.. I .. this is so accurate.. I was the bird feeder.. then I understood how economic incentives work. Also how evolution works in that context. It's not pretty but it's true.

This thread gave me cancer.

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>>4314 whan an incoherent statement to make. >anarchy, the absence of state, is the basis of all states >currently, in state society, we live in the absence of states. >>4315 >>4302 there's no 'economic incentive' to be poor. That's a pretty stupid notion.

>>4314 Nope, we started with tribalism. tribalism eventually became monarchism. Monarchism became feudal monarchism. In between we had some attempts at republics, often with proto capitalism. Then the French revolution came and Republicanism with capitalism became dominant until this day.

>>4315 I don't see a problem with this. That's jsut how much I love humanity(despite it's many flaws). Ultimately I am more a humanist than any type of communist. I would like us to one day develop so much that we start planet hopping like zerglings. I suport saving the planet and animal rights but only as so far as it serves for our prolonged human existence and long term benefit. Once we inhabit space we may as well blow up the earth if it doesn't serve a purpose anymore for all I care. Why is (not the one as it 'was', but as it should be) communism IMO compatible with humanism? Because humans would prosper. And as a humanist I love EVERY human being(despite our many shortcomings). Hell if you read the human rights declaration you will notice that some(not all) human rights are fairly communist in nature.

>>4323 >>4323 >there's no 'economic incentive' to be poor. That's a pretty stupid notion. If you give money to people who can't feed themselves in any way then you're incentivizing social uselessness. What is mediocrity? It's the state that requires the least amount of effort to get by. If daddy government feeds me then I don't really need to get off my videogames do I? I can even have loads of children like me and not give a fuarrrk because someone else will pay for them. >whan an incoherent statement to make. Before the state there was anarchy. Some people started acting as if states were a thing, but they only exist because we believe in them. In reality if I can get away with something then I got away with it. No laws, no rules, only pragmatism. If you wanted to destroy the state and prevent any more from forming then you would need to create an entity to stop it.. which ironically would grow into a state itself. Also don't call other people's opinion stupid when you can't even be consistent.

>>4324 >Nope, we started with tribalism What about before tribalism? huh? who enforced the rules and laws? If you woke up tomorrow in an anarchist utopia, how would you stop new states from forming? You can't.

>>4328 > What about before tribalism? huh? who enforced the rules and laws This is a rather irrelevant question. Before we were even human or used tools, we still lived in "tribes". We were wild animals, like other animals that hunt in packs. Before there were tribes we were probably like tree shrews or something. That's a few million years back, Lain.

>>4327 If you want to analyze society as though nothing is sacred you might as well think through this a little more deeply. Welfare serves a lot of purposes outside of humoring liberal altruism. Welfare disincentivizes theft and disincentivizes social unrest. Let me offer my reasoning for the first point.(the second one is probably obvious and you either agree with the premise or not). If people aren't given welfare they're still going to want to eat and at that point will probably just steal from a supermarket. In providing welfare the government basically socializes the cost of upholding "law and order" on every citizen. It's just the same situation for the police. You're an idiot if you think they're there to protect you. Look at these statistics. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/property-crime/property-crime & https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/violent-crime/violent-crime Property crime beats out violent crime almost 9 to 1 and larceny is way more common than burglary. People say police protect property and not people and this is true but they even protect your fuarrrking property, they protect Walmart's. The vast majority of police responses are to theft of business properties. Businesses have managed to use the state as a tool to socialize the cost of their security force onto you and me.

>>4333 This is true. SOURCE: I've been on social assistance before. If not I would have probably resorted to crime and possibly wound up in jail. Prison costs the taxpayer more than welfare and police calls even if they didn't catch me are also a cost.

> it must all be true because someone put it on infographs

thats enough from me today

>>4348 >I will dismiss everything as false because I don't want to change my opinions trying to disprove it your comment was on par with emotional knee jerk reaction or a fart during a conversation

>>4348 >if he didn't put any stats then I would simply call him a stupid racist

>>4351 >>4350 > someone put text on jpgs and it gets circulated by lazy people who never fact check anything > but its on an INFOGRAPH bro!

>>4352 >>4352 >lazy people who never fact check anything have you checked a mirror lately? nifty little thingies btw, all the sources are in links on the pictures posted if you are wondering ;)

>>4352 Everything in those posts can be scientifically proven.

>>4354 > science > proof That's not how science works.

>>4352 Again, you are just trying to discredit and dismiss the statistics, evidence and proof presented before you. That is not a counter argument.

>>4356 Mostly we just want you people to go back to whatever site you came from and stop clogging up ours with crap no one cares about.

>>4357 > you people > go back to where you came from das raciss

>>4357 >we you talk for whole of lainchan? >stop clogging up ours with crap no one cares about >no one cares about How do you know for sure that nobody cares about these stuff? It seems to me that you simply saw a glimpse of one or two pictures and completely dismissed stats or proof presented based on emotions directed towards political leanings. Thats what is called "bias". Seeing a world through tinted glasses, mate. Come on, just try on ONE of the pictures. Try to prove yourself wrong, not me. Look into proof and stats and sources. Then try to find counter-sources. will gladly change my opinions if you come back and prove me wrong. I can't say the same for you.

>>4359 I said I don't care and now you're angry that I won't debate you? Just go away. There are places where this garbage is actually welcome.

>>4360 Not really angry, just saddened by your apathy and willful ignorance. Not going to stop btw. You can't "la la la" the reality away m8.

>>4360 >I said I don't care >>4357 >no one cares about lrn to reed nigguh

>>4361 Look we just want to discuss Lain and other cyberpunk, anime, programming, security, drugs... people are sick of this incessant astroturfing.

>>4362 SHE BLINDED ME WITH SEMANTIX!

>>4363 >we just want to discuss Lain and other cyberpunk, anime, programming, security, drugs OP thread Subject is "Political images n memes". I posted Politically motivated images. Why the butthurt fam?

>>4364 hehe I know that song too xD Inane emotionally driven comments m8

>>4366 It's true, you are posting inane emotionally driven comments. Go find a safe space where you won't be so triggered.

>>4367 nah

> last 30 posts Is this what Lainchan has devolved into?

>>4369 >rhetorical question that doesn't further threads theme >whining about problem while being part of it Just to answer your Q, yes.

>>4370 > complains about others being part of the problem > replies with post that is still part of the problem

>>4369 this is why we got rid of /civ/. There's a small subset of the right wing on lainchan that just wants to lower post quality.

That picture is really unrealistic. The working class hate commies.

All pictures posted above with stats are credible and true

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wow, we've degraded to posting soykafty facebook memes.

>>4385 this whole site is dead

>>4332 during tribalism who enforced the rules and laws? The answer is: the strongest one. In anarchy there is no law other than the law of the stongest and cleverest. That is the world that the humans rule today. The same world that was ruled by the dinosaurs before us.

>>4386 Feel free to leave <3

>>4333 >If people aren't given welfare they're still going to want to eat and at that point will probably just steal from a supermarket. Yes, I don't deny this. However it would be much better if instead of receiving money for free you received education or opportunities. Also it would be even better if we citizens learned how to create opportunities in society by ourselves, among ourselves and for ourselves.. It is true that the state obeys interests that are different from those of the people. This is clear to anyone who wants to see. cheerio lad

>>4334 If we're talking about the US here then talking about prisons there is another thing entirely. It's amazing to see what social reintegration centers do for nordic societies. In the US, however, what exist are not prisons but businesses .

>>4339 This soykaf is good and dense my friend. Far from the cheap pics of daquantruis johnson.

>>4341 This is straight up propaganda, but it's okay because freedom of speech. I will always love people like you though only through the internet. <3

>>4360 >There are places where this garbage is actually welcome. Bro, try posting some memes if you don't like his'. Let's be chill, remember: > if you can't handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen So it goes with politics as well. It's important not to lose respect for you fellow lainon. Lets all love lain!

>>4369 There's plenty of good posts in lainchan. If you want I can point you to some!

>>4374 Not really. You are responsible for fact checking in the internet. Or what, do you think someone would just log into the internet and lie?

>>4385 yeha, most of these meemees are pretty bad and lazy

>>4394 >>4393 >>4397 Dismissing and discrediting evidence put before you isn't the same as disproving it.

>>4400 Fact checking is not dismissing anything bru

>>4401 Did you fact check anything? Did you show counter evidence? Did you disprove anything? Where is that post where you fact check something?

STATISTICS Transsexuals are four times more likely than the average person to be infected with HIV. https://archive.is/6Evel About 88% of children who have gender dysphoria do not hold those beliefs when they grow older. https://archive.is/eWGp2 https://archive.is/jyQVD MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. https://archive.is/8wMFZ 41% of transsexuals have tried and failed to commit suicide. https://archive.is/6Evel Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. https://archive.is/05VoZ 65% of transsexual youth have seriously considered suicide within the last year. 37% of transsexual youth have attempted suicide within the last year. Most young transsexuals have committed self-harm within the last twelve months. 1 in 10 young transsexuals has attempted suicide more than three times in the last year. https://archive.is/uJoYU Only 21% of transsexuals can successfully pass as the opposite gender. https://archive.is/vL3ZB 53% of mothers of transsexual children have Borderline Personality Disorder, compared to only 6% of mothers of normal children. https://archive.is/xZ8Ie 16% of transsexuals have been sent to jail or prison, compared to 2.7% of the general population. https://archive.is/m72PH Gay and transgender students are half as likely to graduate high school as straight students. https://archive.is/oaHQo

I want /p-lol/ to leave.

>>4404 >liberals >left get that soykaf outta here also where the fuarrrk is my Soros check

>>4408 The Soros theory is my favourite piece of tinfoil hattery. Every "leftist" or anti-authoritarian project I was ever involved in either had no money whatsoever or was funded by benefit shows, bake sales, keg parties, donation jars and our own pockets. It's just easier for them to believe some shadow figure is controlling everything than to imagine people getting off the internet and doing things in the real world on their own initiative.

>>4409 >I was involved in groups that had no big name investors with political agendas >therefore its impossible that any person with political agenda would fund a movemen Objective evidence of Soros funding groups around the world and personal experience are two different things

>>4413 You guys have an embarrassing habit of extrapolating meanings that simply weren't intended. That greentext is just silly. I'm kinda glad this new alt-retard subculture exists online. It keeps you safely sequestered in the basement sh*tting up internet forums and off of the streets at least.

>>4415 Rude. Reported.

Love when right wingers are fans of cyberpunk because it's pretty clear they don't understand it at all

>>4418 what is right wing?

>>4415 You seem really pent up with anger fam

>>4427 Calling you silly is "pent up with anger"? Tee hee... now that's projection.

>>4426 fuarrrking hell that middle pic >we can't publish this because circumcision is unethical >but its completely legal to do this to infants and even forcibly to children up to teenage against their will

>>4428 I don't call other people names over the internet over nothing, yea you can call that pent up anger.

>>4430 >>4426 Are you completely retarded? A third of the world male population is circumcised, myself included (phimosis, not a jew). When I read Freud stating that antisemitism was partially caused by people having castration complex i didn't believe in it, but now it seems that i have to change my mind.

>>4446 Circumcision "complex"? Look into middle pic >>4426 Yea, I hate jews I hate them because they unjustifiably hurt children Third of male population had genital mutilation preformed on them at time when they were too young to say "no, this is my body".... And that is ok because they are in vast numbers? Oh ok , that sounds reasonable

>>4447 Oh I read it wrongly Castration complex? Arent circumcision and xastration two different things? I am scared of both but to have complex about castration is absurd

>>4429 B-but third of male population are circumcised ....so its ok?

too many jews on lainchan. DEATH TO ISRAEL AND THEIR RACIST APARTHEID YOU PEOPLE LIKE TO IGNORE.

>>4470 >neurosuggesting all Jews are Zionists

>>4470 In previous discussions here there was much sympathy for the Palestinians and like, none for Zionism. Some of the most outspoken anti-Zionists I've met in my life were from Jewish families. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>4448 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration_anxiety Wikipedia explains it quite badly, but the core is that children are afraid of being castrated, and this fear remains in the inconscious even when they grow up. The reason circumcision feels so weird and scary to people is because it reawakens that fear in them (but circumcision in reality has nothing to do with castration and has no bad effects on people, in fact a lot of porn actors decide to do it consciously cause of aestetichs and the increased cleanliness of the penis it leads to). To support Freud's idea of people associating circumcision with castration there is the thing that, if you notice, circumcision/castration is a veeery common lapsus (means mispelling). Even you admitted in your last post that you read "circumcision complex" instead of "castration complex", right?

jews are a race, not a religion amirite?

>>4512 Jews still have no right to destroy autonomy of your own body. Just like we get disgusted with muslims chopping off clitoris from their women we should be enraged with jews destroying male genitalia for nothing other than their backwards religion. Phimosis could have been treated differently (with stretching) not chopping off nerve endings and never again having nice sensations

>>4523 Lets see what Jews think about that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

>>4512 I have quite a bit a fixation about circumcision, not sure if you could call it a complex, not so sure if thats the same business. I feel quite sick about myself for it, but i cant fix myself so i just let it slide. Maybe i just need a good girl to fuarrrk some sense into me, but thats another story. A lot of guys i know are also upset they had their foreskin sacrificed for no reason whatsoever, so dont take this so lightly. And while this is a horrible thing i think in the scope of other atrocities of religious thinking, its a minor issue. Religious freedoms and tolerance are nothing but sanctioning of arrogant ignorance to me. Religious people are unfit to think and should not be allowed to make choices from what i concluded. Its hardly a jews vs rest thing to me, i think this is all on individual level and should be seen as such. There are such people in every culture and that should be treated as a threat, but also people who ignore such issues and go on about freedom and rights to spread nonesense for people who have messed up brains are also to blame.

>>4449 Most of that population is in Africa and the middle east and for some insane reason the USA. Culture changes and in the west people found it barbaric and excepting a few cases where the doctor isn't aware of alternative procedures is almost unheard of outside religious reasons. It was a cultural fad in the 1950s and 60s in the west but disappeared quite fast in the 70s and 80s outside the USA. In the USA there is a push by doctors for some weird reason to keep it up when other western countries don't advise it. But with recent cuts in medicaid funding over the past 10 years circumcision rates have dropped massively in states that stopped funding it. Apparently showing many were getting it because it was cheap surgery not because its needed. To people who think consent is important, particularly in cases where there is no significant medical benefit circumcision is certainly not okay. But in general its just not necessary unless you think god will punish you for not cutting your child, or, say, necrosis of the foreskin. So likely will continue to disappear >>4447 There are many jews that think the practice is barbaric and refuse to participate in it, some religious jews included. For most americans their first exposure to circumcision being kinda dumb and needless is that Penn & Teller episode where a jewish doctor shows his restoration device. The practice is dying rapidly for non-muslims, its just a shame boys are still being subjected to this, but then its the same with other needless suffering caused by people who don't know better, or doctors unaware of alternatives like in >>4446 case, which seems to be extremely common in the anglosphere where the doctor insists circumcision is the only option simply because they don't know what most of Europe does instead. like >ring at the tip is too tight >better cut the flesh to half way down the shaft extra tight to fix it If they did just remove the very tip it wouldn't feel so mutilatey to think of and people wouldn't get so angry when debating it. This is quite presumptuous of me in this context as this Lainon may have only had the phimotic ring removed which is radically different from what USA doctors tend to do to infants. >>4524 see above >>4474 This. It's the increasingly authoritarian right politicians in Israel. Many Israelis would like to be able to just coexist with the Palestinians. But their government would never allow this. John Pilger documentary on the conflict for cases of sympathy for Palestinians by Israelis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TocsC16HIOQ >>4446 I find it kind of funny how the circumcision and castration gets tied to jews still when its mainly protestant Christian sects that have been pushing it in the west since the late 1800s. Ignorance and misinformation perhaps.

>>4526 It is quite scary when confronted with the ~100-200 infants that die each year in the USA from it and the complications that can lead to loss of genitalia. But as you are old enough that your parents can't legally force it on you any more it's no longer something you should worry about. There is a common OCD symptom where people get stuck thinking about children being abused and it messes them up constantly thinking about the fact children are being sexually abused around the world and noone can stop it everywhere. It's the same here, where you are empathizing with the kids that have gone through this and being messed up from it and it gets stuck in your head. There are worse things happening in the world by far, its just this feels so needless and being in principle child abuse makes it quite psychologically detrimental to get fixated on. I may have misinterpreted your post and you meant fixation over having been circumcised, In which case, if its causing you physical discomfort or want more pump action, you can just restore it if you want. If not, you're fine, pretty much everyone that abhors circumcision wouldn't reject someone who has been cut, they are just mad that parents are being so careless and ignorant. >>4527 *necessary as in perceived to be necessary in the religious case

>>4470 This is stupid. I'm jewish and a zionist (I support the right for the jewish people to be self-determined and the existence of a jewish state). I don't support the Israeli government. To call it apartheid is a bit much though. The law is the same for everyone I believe.

>>4529 How did all these Palestinians, Christian and Muslim end up stuck in what is now called Gaza? Israel looks awful different in boundary extent from when it was established in the late 40s.

>>4530 A lot are probably there from when it was controlled by Egypt. It looks different because territory is captured in war. As there have been many conflicts, that's just what happens. I'm not condoning it and I admit I don't know very much about the history.

Hail Trump Hail Victory Make our army GREAT AGAIN brb im going to read butthurt comments from leftists

>>4532 This is one of those pay no attention to the man behind the curtain wizard of oz moves. He's trying to distract from sessions and the failing senate attempt to repeal obamacare.

>>4533 >leftists become conspiracytards I guess you didn't know Imran Awan got arrested.

>>4532 >>4534 dassum low-qual soykaf

>>4529 >JERUSALEM — If being an apartheid state means committing inhumane acts, systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over another, then Israel is guilty, a United Nations panel has determined in a new report. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/16/is-israel-an-apartheid-state-this-u-n-report-says-yes/ Check out that fuarrrking wall they built to segregate the land based on ethnicity. It grows every year and splinters whatever is left. Why is this okay? We never hear about palestine in the news until the UN decides to intervene... >>4525 seems more like a race to me.

>>4536 >The findings from an Arab-led group were not cleared or fully backed by U.N. leadership and do not set new policies toward Israel I'm willing to bet this wasn't entirely impartial. >Why is this okay? We never hear about palestine in the news until the UN decides to intervene... I'm not condoning the governments actions. We must get our news from different places. It pops up all the time in the Guardian or the BBC. Here's an article. It doesn't portray Israel in a great light. But it says it is not an apartheid state. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/opinion/why-israel-is-nothing-like-apartheid-south-africa.html Don't forget that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, the only place you can be gay.

>>4537 It's about as much of a democracy as the US is. also >only place you can be gay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Jordan

I broke my own golden rule... I forgot an image...

>>4539 Kind of soykaf image tbh Humans dont care if someone goes through their garbage, but if you make a mess on my property then I will get mad

>>4540 >property spooky

>>4542 Not an argument Social constructs have meaning and value even if we assign them ourselves

>>4545 >meaning >value >>>argument the spooks are flying thick and fast

>>4546 Every person I ever knew who started talking about Stirner stopped being able to communicate with other people in any kind of constructive manner. Not trolling, just pointing out a pattern I can't help but notice. Same goes for Zerzan followers.

>>4547 hey, I'm just posting political images and memes. I'm not a devoted Stirnerite(that there's an oxymoron).

>>4547 For Stirnerists, that's a feature, not a bug. Stirner, at least in their understanding, relieves you of the responsibility of having to understand others' motivations, or of broader context outside of your immediate grasp. Everything you don't understand the reason for (or for which you can impute some nefarious motive) is a spook. It has the appeal of simplicity-- it reduces reality to one or two big assumptions that SEEM to be well tuned to deal with any proposition, but if you look closely, you'll begin to perceive the gaps where things don't fit quite so neatly as they want to believe. Spooks direct others' behavior regardless of whether you believe in them, or the fact that spooks might have a selective advantage-- societies that let themselves be possessed by beneficial ones survived. The claim they lack "reality" is just as arbitrary as any other measure. So many things which you don't have a full understanding of can be so reduced, to the point you can claim that "direction" is meaningless because there's no up or down in space, or "gender" is meaningless because you know a couple of people who break the assumption. "Spook" is basically a thought-terminating cliche. Maybe Stirner just meant that we should remove spooks from consideration to try and get a better understanding of reality independent of subjective systems, but his followers take it as an a priori truth. It's an excuse to not have to think too hard.

>>4531 The territory may have changed. But most of those in Gaza lived in, or their parents lived in what is now Israel. But they were forced off their land by Allied powers in the resettlement program to put culturally jewish Europeans on Semitic non-jewish land. There may not be significant apartheid set in law in Israel and they haven't set up concentration camps like the Belgians did in Africa (Casement Report), but the way they treat Palestinians is certainly unacceptable. Very relevant resource: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy

>>4550 Another thing about egoists is that they don't realize that their "self" doesn't stop at the edges of their body. Most healthy people, even if they don't know it, have an investment in their own society, and would feel deeply lost and stressed if it were suddenly replaced. It's not just fear of the unknown, and it's not just xenophobia. Your self conception is very deeply tied to your origin-- even if you cast it in an inimical role, you still define yourself relative to it. You are not just you-- you are a part of a super organism. You evolved an ego because it gives you clear-headed consideration of reality. It made you realize that, sooner or later, the future is coming. It lets you build technology. It lets you strategize. It led your ancestors to defeat all of their competition. The separation of "I" and "it" is insanely powerful. But it's probably the biggest spook of all.

>>4551 *forgot pic

>>4538 >a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives. >a state governed under a system of democracy. >control of an organization or group by the majority of its members. Tell me how the US isn't? I stand corrected on Jordan, but >However, LGBT people displaying public affection can be prosecuted for "disrupting public morality" >According to the 2013 survey by the Pew Research Center, 97% of people answers no, 3% answered yes, on question: "Should Society Accept Homosexuality?" Seems like a good place to be.

>>4554 >Tell me how the US isn't? Never said that. Just said Israel is as democratic as the US is.

>>4555 Oh god that pic :D

>>4555 Does democracy in Israel apply to everyone regardless of race? It's *supposed* to in the US but there is injustice in how different races are treated in the eyes of the law. I'm sure it happens there too but is it made official? ie. different laws for arabs and non-Israelis

>>4558 Democracy and equality aren't synonyms. People use them interchangeably but that's incorrect. Democracy just means someone votes. If only land-owning males of a certain age who were born in the country get to vote but that's only 10% of the population, it's technically a democracy.

>>4559 >If only land-owning males of a certain age who were born in the country get to vote but that's only 10% of the population, it's technically a democracy. not by modern standards

>>3013 ahahah Haven't seen this one before.

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>>4642 >>4641 This guy is obnoxious

>>4651 you sound butthurt

>>4653 They're just bad and inarticulate political comics

>>4654

fuloods

>>4656

>>4657 >>4656 >>4655 >>4654 you are exhibiting a big signs of butthurt by spamming that sort of comments

>>4658 I'm just dumping webms on my computer m8. Calm down.

alright, that's all I got

kwality thredd (not being sarcastic)

>>4659 jobs.webm reminds me of this pic

>>4662 kek. I do think he has a point though.

This thread gave me leukemia.

>>4675 wait, you didn't read the Cultural Barxist yet

>>4675 >>4678