Let's talk about our /cyb/ sins.

This might be a weird way to put it, but, do you engage on activities that you know are kinda bad from a /cyb/ or /sec/ viewpoint, but you do them anyway because reasons? I've noticed during my time here (<2 years) that Lain isn't a hive mind, so I'm pretty sure there's people here that do the same kind of stuff at least I do, for one or more reasons. Care to share them, Lain? Let's talk about our sins. >I own a laptop running Arch and a gaming computer running Windows 10. Not even dual boot. Just windows 10 with the maximum amount of MS soykaf disabled so I can vidya in peace, but w10 nonetheless >I have 2 android phones, a Samsung S7 Edge running a custom rom without gapps and a HTC 626s running the stock firmware and full of google soykaf because I work at a mobile systems company and I develop a lot of android soykaf that use Google apis, so I need it for testing said apps >I have various social media accounts because I have a "normal" life aside the tech stuff I do and I like to keep in touch with my friends, like, all the time. I use a fake name but all my contacts know it's me anyway, and most of the time they call me by my fake name anyway. >I used to whitehat for companies. Like, a lot. >I like buying nice soykaf. If I like it I buy it. I like supporting some industries to keep doing what they do because at the end of the day there's people behind said industries. People that have families and need to eat. Still I prefer indies above everything, but as I said, If i like it I buy it. Forgive me father, for I have sinned. Pic unrelated btw.

I hated Neuromancer and i use Skype. Other than that, nothing comes to mind.

>>2370 >and i use Skype Is there something wrong with it? I use discord personally

>>2371 https://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/05/21/skype-privacy-doesnt-exist-sorry-microsoft-can-read-everything/ http://www.computerworld.com/article/2474090/data-privacy/new-snowden-revelation-shows-skype-may-be-privacy-s-biggest-enemy.html http://akademie.dw.de/digitalsafety/think-skype-is-safe-think-again/

This is not exactly a sin, but a trait that I think makes me different from the average lainon: I am not an idealist. That is, I don't base my thoughts, actions and opinions around an idea of how I think the world should be but instead I just take is as it is and work along with it.

>>2373 I think most of us are like that, Lain. I'm not busting my ass off studying because i wanna change the world, i'm literally going hungry every day so i gotta get some money. If i was rich or had a family i'd be playing MMOs and smoking pot all day.

>>2374 >I think most of us are like that, Lain. I wish. Have you read the politic threads on this site? It seems like almost everyone lives with their communism/anarchism in front of everything else

>>2375 I think it's just a vocal minority, most other threads don't give the same vibe.

I use a stock android phone and i have (shrug) whatsapp on it to talk to my few friends. Im trying to get them to switch to foss alternatives gradually however. Computer security is next to non existent, but atleast i dont use winblows, but my parents do.

>>2377 What's wrong with whatsapp? It does have end to end encription

>>2379 Im just a little pedantic about propeitary stuff. Its not like, atleast i say anything important over it, they might. Games and whatnot not being foss is somewhat of a gray area for me but for actual usage i just like using foss stuff. No reason to be paranoid on my end.

Pretty much everything I do is un-Lainish and examples are too numerous to mention. Reasons: poverty and realizing it's too late to hide anything from my past. There's also no way for anyone to h4x my accounts as I only use cash. At least I've never had social media but that's only because I always thought it was dumb, and that it was a big black hole sucking life away from other attempts to create worthwhile things online.

>>2367 >I have various social media accounts because I have a "normal" life aside the tech stuff I do and I like to keep in touch with my friends, like, all the time. I use a fake name but all my contacts know it's me anyway, and most of the time they call me by my fake name anyway. >I use a fake name but all my contacts know it's me anyway, and most of the time they call me by my fake name anyway. this is hella dumb and extra. this legit sounds like some middle school soykaf so your mom doesnt find your social media but you said your a grown ass man. and people call you by a fake name, like what kind of wizard soykaf is this are you sure you live a "normal" life outside of tech?

>>2385 Maybe I miss wrote it. I meant that I my social media accounts have a nickname instead of my real name, which is what people have called me for years now. Nothing more than that.

>>2390 There's nothing unusual about having a nickname. The way you wrote it was weird, yes. Perhaps Lain thought you chose a screen name and then you insisted everyone call you that offline as well. Obviously that isn't the case.

Aren't you supposed to have two identities in this way through and then keep them completely clean from each other. I read that was better security than just being a shadow hackerman. So you can fold into either of them with full commitment at anytime.

>>2405 That's basically what anyone does if they ever get into a situation where they might be arrested. It happens naturally. The way most people get arrested is through middle ground. Let's say you're part of a music cracking group (and that can get you in problems very quickly), you use a new identity for this group, all of your actions within this group are using this second identity and everything is neat. But there's also that other forum where you post about cracking stuff, you joined a few years ago with your current, main email. That's where you are raised as a possibility, where investigation begins and where people knock on your door asking if you've ever worked with a cracking group before. But having two identities is using internet 101, thing is that's what everyone should do. Every person on planet earth should have an online persona. Specially now that companies look on your soykaf before accepting or denying your job application, either you lie and become something else that can be sold to everything and everyone (aka if you're a programmer who keeps sharing art, something is up fuarrrko, better share programming jokes!) or you create a persona. Everyone should use fake names, fake birthdays, fake addresses. Nobody needs your real data, and nobody should have it if you don't want them to.

-I use a rather simple password for most stuff -I use an android phone -I use facebook, though one account for my family, and another one with a nickname for everyone else.

>>2418 I've been thinking for a while to make a fb account for my real life but I'm not sure if I want to

I use chromium to browse the web more than half the time. I use an Android with Gapps.

-I own a mobile phone -My drives are not encrypted -I use Gmail -I wear a tie at my job -I watch rant videos on YouTube -I watch TV sometimes -I currently live with my parents

>>2426 I live with your parents too. Look under the bed.

>>2426 -I watch rant videos on YouTube I wouldn't judge you for anything else, but this is too much Lain.

>>2371 https://stallman.org/skype.html

>>2426 >-I wear a tie at my job over the fuarrrking line, Lain.

>>2427 yeah I know why do you think I've been leaving dishes of milk on the floor

>>2458 H- how did you know I was a cat? You've been spying on my emails.

>>2443 Here's one of my sins: I don't listen to rms, in fact, if I read one of his opinions on something, I try to do just the opposite out of aversion to him.

>>2466 and your pussy lol

>>2468 Now the FBI knows you were looking at kitty porn.

Itd be more like what am I doing that IS /cyb/ Im learning comp sci at a university rather than by myself with a few irc hackers I have a smart phone I have all social media and use it frequently I have a surface that runs windows 10 and another laptop that runs ubuntu for programming soykaf. I dont buy my drugs online I use google I know almost nothing about wiring and electricity I get my coffee from starbucks I like to think im a gateway. I know enough to show people in but I cant be there myself. I like to do art creative stuff so il draw cool soykaf and make some music for the cyb revolution and then be purged for my sins.

>>2469 the FBI knows a lot worse about me already that's my /cyb/ sin

I only run ubuntu on my laptop cause its low spec and i use xfce, not some custom setup. I know how to use gentoo and arch, im just lazy and i want easy mode. I dont even do anything security related any more, i browse lainchan and like to keep up on news but like its just out of habit and passing interest. I use snapchat, whisper, instagram, twitter, tumblr, imgur and reddit... why? well I mean i gave up on being secure online tbh and just like consuming content. Oddly enough i dont use facebook but thats more circumstance, a lack of HS friends of any sort, i was a fat loser then that no one associated with thats when i was active with comp sec and such. I use tor unanonymously, like ill go to chat rooms and just be straight forward about where i live and my life deets, im just not anonymous really and dont desire to. The only reason i use a fake name online is cause i havent legally changed my name yet cause tranny freak. I use the stock rom that came on my cheap ass android, i dont really care enough to manage a custom rom. Uh ya so thats it, i might be the least /cyb/ or /sec/ person on lainchan tbh... Last time i coded was a year ago and it was simple discord chat bots.... in ruby lel... Hell you might of even uncovered who i am by nym and pic but no one seems to be able to ident me any way because i no face book and dont post the same pictures on my social media apps as i do share in "anonymous" spaces and i also dont have a facebook, half of the "dox" sorta people rely on facebook and google image search.. But then again like i said no real name attached to any online accounts, but only cause i havent chaged it yet. I want a powerful enough computer to run windows and games just broke ...

>>2379 First: source is not free so you do not know if end-to-end encryption is really implemented. Second: source is not free Third: It is owned by Facebook. Yes I use it too, for friends' fault. Discord is no way better

>I have a stock tracking device and use it constantly >I run nonfree software(vidya, mostly) >>2373 Just an aside, but how can you have no ideals? It sounds very depressing to live life without any sense of progress towards a goal.

>install AUR packages without looking at build or install scripts >use a post-t430 gen thinkpad >have social media accounts >use youtube excessively >started reading neuromancer years ago but never got past the first chapter I guess I used to be worse

>>5619 Which thinkpad do you use? I'm looking for a powerful and portable computer but everything is expensive as soykaf

Use Win10 for CS:GO Android phone, left the Jewgle shortcut on the homescreen and use Google for fuarrrking everything Just..Google yo Too much Google Google Search, Google Maps, Google Calendar, GMail is "my permanent email" I've had since I was 13 and for the forseeable eternity Google Google Google every little question, thought, curiosity I've given up on even bothering with alternative anything Check Facebook the way I used to check the Chans The only good thing I do anymore is the fact that I've still at least avoided directly buying Intel or NVidia

>>5620 I got a t470 through my job, you'd want an older model if you want something cheap though.

>>2372 >tfw my company just installed skype as the primary messaging app I buy everything from megacorps, while cringing every time I do so I use personal information and email with cookies enabled, same with school stuff, i'm probably putting myself at risk, but I also feel that not doing so would make me look suspicious (also now a bunch of megacorps have all of my shopping interests >feelsbadman.jpeg I don't (yet) use linux because I have too much soykaf on my windows computer (windows 7) but I am planning on buying a new hard drive to back up all my soykaf

Well lets see.... >I use Windows XP as a daily driver and play non-free games with it (at least I get POSready updates I guess). >I use older web browsers because of XP (not really my fault at least) >I only use Linux on non-critical machines so I do not have to constantly put up with soykaf breaking. >I only use non-free video drivers in Linux because "free" drivers are half-assed and broken. >I do not encrypt any of my files. >I posted my security failings on a public website

>>5619 >My android phone is using the stock rom. >I use facebook and snapchat >my primary email is through Microsoft (it's the email address the university I work at provided me) Could be worse.

> my real-life email address is @outlook.com > I use an ipod touch for both hacking and RL things. > I use my laptop for both hacking and RL things. > multiple password reuse of known "compromised" passwords. > no encryption for stored data.

My worst ones are: >I use one weak password with some variations on pretty much everything >I can't even remember all the things I have registered into when I was a kid. It was hundreds of sites. >Even if I tried googling services I registered to, I can't remember most of my old emails and nicknames. Most of them were SomethingSomethingEdgySomething. Funnily enough I used the same password I use today. >if you read the above you probably realised that my digital footprint is beyond fixing. My only hope of hiding is to effectively learn to use personas without cross contamination, or some alternative strategy.

Not all of them are technology related but sorta /cyb/. >My phone sends tons metadata probably >I browse chans on my phone and public wifi >I like fast food places >I used to have social media accounts >I posted selfies on said social media accounts

>my primary email (the one with my real name) is a gmail account >facebook with my real name >no drive encryption on my desktop >phone runs lineageos, but i sideloaded minimal gapps >never read AUR pkgbuilds >i have a secondary windows install for games. my security philosophy for that one is pretty much "hey, if it gets a virus i can just wipe it and start over" >no proxy/vpn for general browsing. i only use tor when i really have to. >can't get any of my irl friends on e2e encryption, so 90% of my communication with them is over sms or facebook chat. >soykaf hacker. i'm just into math and programming. >generally pay for video games. also i have a steam account. >>2407 >Every person on planet earth should have an online persona. strongly fuarrrking agree. my digital footprint is too big to ever effectively erase, but it's a bit of a cold trail at this point. i rarely post anything under my own name, so the worst anybody could find out is probably what i look like and maybe which college i went to... plus names of friends and relatives probably. these days, i've just been rolling up new identities for everything. it's a great way to safely partition what any given group is allowed to know about you. once you break away from the assumption that your online accounts are supposed to represent "the real you", social media gets vastly more tolerable. like i've never really used instagram, never connected with anybody i know irl on instagram, but i still have like 4 instagram accounts under throwaway emails that i just use to fuarrrk around with people every once in a while. same with tumblr and youtube. maybe that's another confession: i actually have fun on social media... but only when i'm using fake personas that i can put up and tear down at will.

>Discord, Steam and whatsapp. I use an alt gmail account for discord and I have to use whatsapp for keeping in touch with people. Steam is for vidya mostly for online games with some indie games cuz I wanted to support them. (And picked them up on a -90 discount) Dumped my first gmail account because I don't remember what I have registered to when I was a stupid kid. I don't use macroshaft bullsoykaf however I do use an Android phone with stock rom

>i use a xiaomi device, although the bootloader is unlocked and custom ROM flashed >I often turn JavaScript on even during tor surfing >misconfigured my machine >use a bank card and a SIM registered after me >didn't like SElain and Ergo Proxy BTW, it was quite fun reading old posts about communism/anarchism where these philosophies were called idealistic, although they are the only materialistic (and non-positivist) way of thought around.

I exist IRL.

I have had highly edited, small, low quality pictures of myself as an icon for a "politically incorrect" tumblrblog. None of them can be connected to my irl social media (I have a really old facebook account I haven't updated in years, made it when I was around 13). I use whatsapp to talk to friends from my current/old schools. I don't see the point of trying to convince anyone to switch to alts, since those are conversations I wouldn't mind anyone else seeing. Online friends are a different story, since many of them don't want to get doxxed (granted I have exchanged face pics and first names with some people, but those are people I have no reason to not be publicly associated with/was planning to meet in real life anyway)

Well, about Whatsapp, It's no big deal I think. Here in my country, the courts alredy blocked the app in all of the place cause they (whatsapp administration) didn't deliver informations about the conversetions between criminals to the police. In some cases, whatsapp was disable for a couple of hours for many days because of "We guarantee the privacy of our customers."

I have no social media, my OPSEC is solid, I am careful, methodical. Sometimes I am honest about who I worked for. Sometimes I just want to tell the story. Sometimes I talk about my days with TAO

I'm an annual member of the FSF. I use Trisquel GNU/Linux on a Libreboot T400 I have phone with Replicant OS, a 100% free version of Android. And I accepted a PS4 as a gift and play it regularly I'll go take my punishment now.

>>7201 TAO? HAHAHHAHA nah, you are just sh1tposting. Why would we believe you? You are just another one of countless chan larpers. Do you know how many time travelers and aliens come on chans to claim they are there? It seems chans are mostly populated by attention hungry f4ggots than anything serious

Stock android, logged in chrome, full stack google in my ass, facebook. If I'll ever be anything cyberpunk, I'll be the labcoat scientist who can't leave the lab with the cool protagonist.

I have an android phone with personal data on it, and I use whatsapp (only because my friends and family refuse to use signal but still it's bad). My vape runs non-free software

Started using Facebook last year after a hiatus of 4 years, but I deleted my previous account and my new account has no friends. It doesn't have my name or address, everything is made up. I use it to follow some particular pages, that's it and mess with people, that's it. I made an Instagram when I was 14 and I haven't used it since. I actively use Twitter, I don't tweet but I take part in conversation of my liking and hobbies,also arguments Never got the appeal of Tumblr , I download it once every year only to delete it the next day. I use WhatsApp but I don't have many people that talk to me. I've recently joined discord just for soykaffposting purposes. I Currently lurk 3 imageboards and lain isn't one of them. It just happened to be today that I wished to check it out, i last checked it around a month ago.

I don't use facebook, google, etc. I don't use mac os, windows. Everything goes over Tor. I own a PS3 which I still play.

>I use Skype >I have an iPhone >I use Instagram >I use YouTube >I often use Google Docs and Drive to transfer files to others. >I care about being stylish >I almost never use cash >I care a lot about my personal image >Video games are almost a hobby for me rather than just a means of entertainment I don't think this list is that bad. I plan to eliminate the iPhone once it inevitably breaks. Probably will also delete most of my stuff on IG just so I can keep up with people. Skype is a real problem though, and my friends wont go out of their way to use free software. I think I'm doing alright overall though. Well, other than being sloth incarnate.

>>7227 > I'm an annual member of the FSF. Me too. > I use Trisquel GNU/Linux on a Libreboot T400 Not using Trisquel, but some not very "free" distribution on x200 with coreboot. > I have phone with Replicant OS, a 100% free version of Android. Me too. But now I switched to LineageOS since my old Galaxy 3 was broken and I could not buy a new one. > And I accepted a PS4 as a gift and play it regularly. I will do that too, but nobody give me a PS4 as gift. You are lucky :) > I'll go take my punishment now.

>>7244 OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT

I am running Windows 10 on my main laptop right this instant despite the fact that I've installed Linux before on other computers successfully Why don't I do it? Well, I honestly don't see why I should bother anymore, I have 5 years to live at most so it really doesn't matter in the long term. Every time they fuarrrk me over with Windows updates completely removing the option to refuse I get an urge to switch, but I forget about it in a day. Oh and also I am so generally intellectually challenged that I could only write very basic Python programs that's 50% tutorials in the first place. Every few months I get into a "programming phase" and stay dedicated for a few weeks but eventually give up. The most complex thing I've made is a program that searches a news website for a query, except the search window has a Tkinter GUI with pictures, input fields and music playing the background. Oh, and also an email spammer that uses multiple addresses. My general lack of intelligence is demonstrated by me forgetting where things are even though I put them there just a few moments ago. Or for example, just a few days ago I was uploading a full rare album to YouTube, and I had trouble adding timestamps to the track list because I had so much difficulty adding minutes and seconds together. At one point I gave up and just skipped around the rendered video for the times where the tracks end, because I'm a retard who'd get the wrong times half the time when using a calculator. I barely scraped by in math/phys/chem classes as well, narrowly passing with like a point above 50% in my math exam even though they allowed me to use reference papers containing formulas and such. I was supposed to fail chemistry 100% but the teacher took a lot of liberties with milking enough points out of my blatantly incorrect work because she felt sorry for me. If I can't do simple soykaf like this how am I supposed to work with rigid logical systems like programming languages? It's a shame too because everyone saw me as becoming a computer genius as an adult, like a sysadmin or a back end dev or something. Well fuarrrk, this ended with me digressing way too much.

I go outside. I communicate with people who don't care about their own privacy, neither mine. I understand that this post is going to be recorded by 4 or 5 search crawlers and archived forever on their hard disks, just like Usenet and Fido now reside on Google Groups.

>iPhone It's nothing more than a glorified mobile social media hub but I plan to replace it with a samsung galaxy phone when it breaks for on the go emulators. >Instagram, reddit, snapchat, tumblr, twitter keeping up with pop culture and "friends". I like to think I have a "normal" life despite my growing distaste for social interaction. Unfortunately I grew up using social media heavily and I'm trying to ween myself off of it, or at least be more anonymous. >windows 10 laptop I strictly use it for multiplayer games that I've become somewhat invested in >i cant fuarrrking program (yet) I will learn though

I don't use tor/vpn all the time when I really should. I lie and evangelize a lot of tech stuff that I don't actually really use.

>>8196 Do as I say, not as I do?

Nobody will beat this: I'm using a windows 7 system that i know is infected to spy & threaten me to soykafpost&play games -it was a targeted attack too. Figured if they can do it once they can do it twice anyway as long as i don't go full anon and cut all contacts wich beats the point of a brewing soykaf&gaming system. So yea i have a verified infected system and im using it.

>dualbooting linux and win7 >soykafcord >chromebook for school (dev tools are, unfortunately, disabled) >no encryption on anything

I log in to my surface win10 laptop with a microsoft account (bound to my xbox with kinect and my main email address). I send them all the telemetry they ask for, and have the most customized experience ever. Cortana can guess what I am about to say before I say it, unless Alexa beats her. I have a google account connected to said email, am logged into chrome with it so I never loose a bookmark or forget anything good. Stock android phone with like 90 apps I installed, some of which tracks health data because I fell for the smartwatch meme. It doesn't really matter though, as I took part in some medical experiments (testing medicine on a relatively rare condition I have) which also meant they tested the living hell out of me anyway. I regularly post selfies on facebook or grab nice moments of my daily life, and don't really ask people if they are okay with going online in photos I make. I tag them, so they can tell me if they don't like it. I basically never turn my PC off. Skype, Discord, TeamSpeak is a must. Sometimes I'm in several voice chats at once, and it occasionally confuses people, but that makes it all the funnier. I've been using snapchat, tinder, etc since they were the newest hype. and honestly I think it was worth it - I mean lots of people you find or befriend there, you'd never meet just by going to parties or w/e. Since I have some awesome bandwidth at home (friend works at telco, got me a business package for 70% off) I share half of the bandwidth as a public wifi - that way people flock around relatively close to my window, that way I can hear conversations. It's pretty cool! I also bullsoykaf to see if lainchan is gullible.

>>8201 > I'm using a windows 7 system that i know is infected to spy > Figured if they can do it once they can do it twice anyway Not sure that is the right mindset anon...

>>8232 Well the threat to get offed was very real - they found me in less than 3 days for posting information on a hot topic in a obscure forum and i didn't want to give them any further motivation. So i let them happily spy and write me off as harmless nerd who dug too deep at one point. They were quite motivated too. Kept coming back over a year to remind me not to post it anymore but now it's all silent.

>>8234 >I'm just a harmless nerd This is wrong, and you're just trying to rationalize your learned helplessness. I occasionally study military tactics and dictum to better my understanding of security as a concept, and in most occasions, the only way an opposing force is officially classified as a non-threat is when they are logically incapable of resistance (i.e can't support war infrastructure, severely degraded fighting ability, dead). It's likely to assume your virtual captors could be doing any combination of these things, using your negligence to entrench themselves on you remaining un-comprimed systems (airgaps are easy to jump brah). Collecting the information your sending and hording it for future opposition ( know your enemy™). Or, perhaps your enemy is as negligent as you are, and has no clue what there doing (skiddies), which could be helpful if you choose to defend your systems again. Just my two cents. Anyway, you look at it system compromise rarely ends nicely once you the floodgates open. You should look into ditching your systems and peripherals, reinstalling your OS, and installing a hardened firewall. Never stop fighting, Freedom through discipline. fuarrrk Windows.

>>8235 >airgaps are easy to jump brah How? I know communication on sidechannels like sound to bridge airgaps exists but these things requires both sides compromised. Never heard of easy airgap infection. Also wonder how realistic is CrossOS infection? Meaning assume you have systems with windows,linux,openbsd. Do people write soykaf that can bridge OS?

>>8236 >Never heard of easy airgap infection Exfiltration of air-gapped networks via exploits (0-day or otherwise) is no longer in the realm of the National brewing soykaf Agency or academia, and it's probably been like this for the past 10 or so years. Stuxnet was just the first publicized case that really gained traction. I speak anecdotally here, but it seems USB/DMA storage is the popular way to deliver an exploit to an airgapped system. That being said, many seedier places on the darknet sell rootkit tools specifically for this purpose, to simply payload delivery (read. skiddie soykafs). >these things requires both sides compromised Heh. This one is largely true. If your passing a payload from a compromised staging host to a secure air-gapped host with the necessary,basic security controls, you should largely be able to detect and isolate that soykaf then and there. However, some folks tend to believe that Air-Gap == fuarrrk You, and leave out even the most basic security controls. However, all of this assumes you are a low value target with nothing to lose other than your cursed hentai pngs. >CrossOS infection Literally an "if statment". >Do people write soykaf that can bridge OS What if I told you there are actual russian hackers who've made it there career and hobby to write low level ASM, and they're quite good at what they do.

>>8237 >What if I told you there are actual russian hackers who've made it there career and hobby to write low level ASM, and they're quite good at what they do. yeah, low level ASM doesn't mean cross-OS compatiblity. If anything assembler is one of the least cross-OS-compatible languages in existence because you need to code in system calls yourself.

>>8238 see >>8236 >Literally an "if statment". but yeah I guess your right.

>>8240 Oops, I meant >>8237

Be honest please. How bad is it if I'm using a macbook pro running linux for pentesting? It was gifted to me and even used laptops are expensive as hell in my country. I try to be as FOSS as possible in my everyday life but I don't think I'll be able to get another laptop any time soon. What do you people think? Is it really that wrong?

> That being said, many seedier places on the darknet sell rootkit tools specifically for this purpose, to simply payload delivery I think you've been misled on how these kind of place work. There isn't and has never been a huge demand for high-quality exploits for non-browser services or highly specialized trojans or shellcode. I have literally never heard of anyone popping anything except get user32 + D&E. If anything, the "advanced code" gets discussed on clearnet forums because they have no economic interest and therefore are largely just intellectual curious. *Everything*, from pay-for-install to "targeted hacks" of people who know someone in Nigeria who can offer a 50/50% cashout, revolves around exploit kits, tricks and services like Mariposa. Everyone from script kiddies to extremely skilled hackers still use these tools (although obviously people of any serious talent will be writing their own crypter stubs). For the most part, even the most skilled hackers are still putting together stuff from public research. It's no longer the 90s anymore. This kind of talk is sometimes regarded as polemical but I don't mean it like this. I don't really think it's wrong for the security industry to "create it's own demand" by offering up an easy method of hacking computers while also selling the defense. It's just how things are. To be clear, there's plenty of unpublished work by skilled hackers everywhere and that never sees the light of day. As cryptocurrencies have replaced LR and WMZ, there's still not the kind of market that has supported a flourishing trade in "cyberweaponry" that is sometimes described by computer security professionals. If anything, dorks like Brian Krebs and Ptacek have their finger on the pulse of internet crime far than Bruce Schnier and Joyce. Even highly targeted soykaf by the best hackers in the world is primarily just people cracking mysql hashes -- look no further than the Yahoo hack if you need verification there. t. was a TC10 seller on Darkode for years, wrote the PURE JIT-spray module for a popular exploit kit at the time.

I don't know anything about programing and I have no intention of learning.

>>8244 >I don't know anything about programing and I have no intention of learning. Not even shell scripting? This makes Lain sad.

>>8234 >the threat to get offed was very real - they found me in less than 3 days for posting information on a hot topic in a obscure forum and What kind of info **come on you can't just tease us like that and not tell, use tor if you have to** >t. not cia nigger

>>8242 if you're running linux you should be fine, it's got the same problems as most android phones running FOSS OSes, which is closed source firmware, but macbooks to my awareness don't have a modem (to which RAM and CPU memory usually have FULL exposure to), so you're not as transparent as android users. otehr than that, the intel management engine might be something to look out for? still, I congratulate you, if that is your only sec sin you have to confess, you're better off than MANY people in this thread, unless everyone is bullsoykafting, in which case they got me. I wish living the FOSS live wasn't this cumbersome at times, but you're hanging through and living the miserable life. let's live through this miserable mess together, we're in it together bro. in other words, it could be better, but a great deal of respect, you're probably doing better than me. and I don't mean this in a snooty way. you could eventually get to buying a cheap x220 or something, they're real powerhouses for their specs and much better designed and constructed than most laptops (or even tablets, if you consider the tablet model). if you can't afford to get one, just keep using the macbook, like I said you're likely not very compromised using it!

>>I take pictures of murder victims with my rooted droid phone. >>I take the time to create those living impaired so I have pic material. >>I use a thinkpad t540 with kali installed. >>I started a tumbler so I could expose others to what's in my head, I linked it to a twitter account to increase spread patterns.

I don't own a Thinkpad and have no intention of getting one. The reason is pretty stupid, I just don't like laptops without numpads mainly because I like playing roguelikes on the go. I know you can just buy an external numpad, but I'd rather have it integrated like every other laptop I've owned. My desktop was built using modern parts (i.e. Ryzen, DDR4, and a GTX 1060) instead of older, used parts I could have easily scavenged from work. I could have gotten by on the older stuff too, I don't even play modern games. My laptop and desktop both have Windows 7 installed with all the recent updates (although I've ran scripts that supposedly get rid of the telemetry ones). Part of this is because muh games, part of this is necessity since there's a couple programs I use at work that don't run on Wine. At least on the desktop it's on a dual-boot and my Devuan install has priority. Even on my Devuan install I still have nonfree software, namely my graphics driver, Discord, Steam, and what few games I play from it. I have both a Gmail and an Outlook account. At least I don't use them for anything remotely shady, that's what throwaway emails are for. I haven't been passionate about programming or compsci in years. Even when I still was, all I cared about making were games. I still code occasionally, but it's mainly just shell scripting and modifying this software we use at work for managing work orders and such. I own a smartphone, a Galaxy S5 with the stock rom. I've been considering installing a custom one, but I need a few nonfree apps for work and I'm not sure how easy those will be to get without the Play Store.

>>2367 I use Google maps All other options don't have as good of address resolution

I use Discord and Kubuntu right now because I got sick of having to configure everything, I plan on going back to Void + i3 soon. I don't plan to quit using Discord.

I unashamedly use win7

I have a dedicated gaming box with windoze7 (most of the soykaf telemetry disabled tho) & discord. Use youtube logged in because playlists I've made over the years and recommended. Also non-free bioses, but my thinkpad will be getting a fix for that soon.

Bought a motherboard/cpu with different sockets, twice.

I love google, intel, nvidia and microsoft and basically lick their feet all day, android windows gapps office365, vidya gaben Management Engine discord, mozilla, chrome, and google suggesting my searches after i talk about them in front of my phone. however to my merit i have no real names or irl contacts in any accounts, so i guess in order to dox me you have to crack one of these companies' surveillance methods - gee, sure sounds hard... /s

>>9096 forgot to mention my most bestest friends, time warner/spectrum and AT&T, i love all they do but they collect more data on their users than basically any other service is even capable of and serve as the government's primary wiretaps to the extent that no VPN, deep web network, or potentially even mesh network can really adequately offer protection. The only way to get real protection is basically to drop everything, pick up only FOSS and FOSHW from i guess thin air, and become a hitchhiking hippie wandering from coffee shop to unsecured wifi to tiny library run by 90 year old ladies and windows 95, growing an appearance to match every other generic scruffy bum on the streets. I seriously doubt anyone living in an actual 1st world country has managed to really as in actually remain anonymous online any other way.

>>8929 You can always use the Yalp Store or FDroid for apps. If the app requires Google Services, you can use MicroG for a replacement, but it may not work all the time. >>8982 Better than using anything after Win7

I find reverse engineering to be extremely boring, so I can't get motivated to learn, sadly. I always wanted to get good at sec.

I have to come clean Anonymously, >I use Skype >I have 3 Laptops, two w/ Linux distros one with Win10 for school and gaming but every telemetry or what not turned off. >I use a Xperia phone with normal Android rom with Google soykaf all the way. >I enjoy PS4 games

my main computer is a very old macbook pro i came across with high sierra on /dev/sda and my several-years-old arch installation with a customised kernel on /dev/sdb. most of my daily programming these days is done in macos though because it's just unix-y enough for my needs and it has a lot of nice quality-of-life environment features that i've become addicted to. i reboot into linux when i want a change of scenery, but when i do i miss the extravagances of my own "evil mode".

I have FB because I got it near the end of high school and had to use it through university. I don't have my real name on it and only use it to talk to friends not into tech but still a sin. I'm also currently using a stock Android phone (with permissions modified, but still). Finally, I use W10 a lot because I need it for music production software (lots of vsts just don't work with other workarounds like wine)

I watched Lain 10 years ago and wasn't into it. Sound strack was gud tho

>>2367 I have COINTELPRO all over me, and I just troll them constantly even though they could technically kill me at any time. fuarrrk it, where's their sense of adventure, I say; I'm ready to die. Protip: Get a cheap SDR and scan the spread spectrum. Search "Passive Radar" and CELLDAR, it's a thing... https://web.archive.org/web/20041213091624/http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_42/b3854113.htm Since the article is now deleted from the web... Gizmodo links to it, but it's dead. https://gizmodo.com/celldar-7565 Basically, a company goes, "Oh, hey, we could spy on everyone through walls even if they're not holding a cellphone, and the tech could piggy back on existing towers without modification" -- and the tech gets bought up and hushed up (because that soykaf already existed and they just wanted to force the hidden hand to buy their R&D costs). P.S. to the spooks reading this: I've always loved you, dickwads. You work for a cult or a corporation, not a gov. Let's dance, rent-a-cops! Unless you want to wake up and be a wizard, in which case, I could teach you how to speak with a few gods greater than the little AI whore your "govs" built.

>>11406 tl;dr your /cyb/ sins are not understanding how electromagnetic waves work, thinking Gizmodo is a reliable media outlet and breaking rule 0?

1) I have a paypal account which I use infrequently when I'm buying books. 2) Never understood how to buy/exchange cryptocurrencies online. 3) I bought a VPS some time ago and didn't know how to set it up. 4) My main computer has a proprietary wifi card. 5) I use firefox-esr as my main browser. Even with add-ons such as ublock origin, https everywhere, noscript and onion browser button I feel pretty bad for using it. I don't know if I should call 2 and 3 as "sins", it's mostly my willingness to be ignorant which is caused by lack of interest on these subjects.

I use Amazon, eBay, and Paypal. This is a relapse and I intend to quit, despite that I'm disgusted with myself for using these services. I use an internet-connected iPad with Apple ID. Not gonna lie, this window into normal person life is comfy as fuarrrk. I don't obfuscate my typing patterns. Hello three letter agencies, and three letter agency state proxies! I use Javascript if not using breaks the website. Hello again! Hope you like my maybe-schizo hand jitter! >>11415 There are literally leaked state patents detailing the tech you're denying. Sounds like someone isn't familiar with white vans, black helicopters, and police vehicles littering their neighborhood.

I don't think Neil Stephenson is that great of an author.

>>11406 > I have COINTELPRO all over me, and I just troll them constantly No you don't, and if you did, congrats on revealing your tactics to them here.

We place the bar way too high for ourselves. Even if we avoided things like videogames, windows and some social media sites wanting to be in contact or to help your family and friends means you will use at least some of the usual hated tools

>>15845 ...and if we are so afraid of big brother that we detach from humanity entirely and don't interact at all, well wouldn't we be doing their job for them?

>>15845 >>15850 The Amish are more /cyb/ than any of us.

Last year: I fell of the wagon and still currently using windows. I haven't tried a lisp dialect until my 30s because I thought I was too stupid for it. I haven't done any real programming in a long time, just piddly soykaf in lua or python. 90% of my computer usage was youtube, soykaf imageboards, reddit, and windows games. Self medicating for a mystery illness by literally being too stoned to care. Currently: On a nearly empty windows install with Virtualbox plotting my next move Did enough of sicp recently to literally throw out all my lua and python projects. 90% of my computer usage is pirating pdfs off libgen and reading them. On actual meds, and mostly done dealing with withdrawl from self-meds. By next month I'll be in shape to cloister myself like I did pre-myspace, except I'll have pdfs and a much better rig. >>15850 If you can really call consumerist livestock humanity, why should I continue to reduce myself to a mere piglet because the other piggies won't acknowledge you if you don't share a trough with them? The internet hivemind is barely more than a distributed computation to generate revenue for data harvesters and advertisers at this point, in my opinion.

>>15852 Not really what I meant so let's try another angle. If you're so afraid of big brother taking your picture that you refuse to dip your toe into that stream we call "reality" or "life" in the first place then you can relax because you aren't breaking any rules and are never going to be perceived as any sort of threat. They have you exactly where you're supposed to be while you have the gall to call anyone else their "livestock".

>>15852 I have no issues calling consumerist livestock humanity. I doubt I could live without them.

>>15852 Most people who think they're above being livestock are themselves livestock.

>>15863 After I'm all set, the next step is obviously pushing the powers that be's soykaf in, starting with the ones that can't quite reach me. >>15869 Maybe, but I'm not content looking through the fence and wondering what could be anymore.

>>15871 > pushing the powers that be's soykaf in ...one of these days ...somehow. Sure thing.

The Thinkpad I own (T550) is too new to be supported by coreboot or whatever it is, so I'm stuck with Intel ME. It also has Windows 10, but at least it's on a separate drive and I only use it at my job if something doesn't work in Wine. Luckily that rarely happens. I also own a smartphone from 2018, one for which there's no stable ROM for an OS like Lineage, since my cheapass provider still uses CDMA. If they used GSM like everyone else, I would have gotten one that's officially supported by Lineage (and wouldn't have cost me 400 goddamn dollars).

My main laptop runs soykaf 10 without any tweaks. I don't care enough to fiddle with os. The second laptop runs linux. I'm a linux user for several years now, it's comfy and I'd like to install it on the main, but too much hustle. Iphone user. Because it's small and comfortable to hold in hand. Bonus points - apple music subscription. Can't write hello world in any lang other than english and aint gonna learn. I like my job and it has nothing to do with IT. Basically, in recent years I've outgrown this edginess and maximalism, and moved to using what just works for me better, i.e. the iphone.

I am using a smartphone daily, the addiction is just too strong from decade of using Android while rewiring my brain circuits.

>>2379 The content of messages isn‘t everything. A lot can be deduced by when you text, to which country, how frequently, etc. I don‘t know much but when I once chatted with sb in a completely foreign country via WA, I got recommendations for polititians from said country on twitter. This is also one of my sins.

>>17012 Don't forget that content of all messages and media files are mirrored to Google or Apple servers by default as "archives", so they are given access to screen each even if mother company (Facebook) doesn't, which I also doubt because of proprietary software nature, due to supposed presence of end-to-end encryption.

I made a linkedin because I want those sweet sweet wageslave bux :(

Win10 desktop, compensated by debotnetting it as much, as we can. Chinese phone, bootloader of which can't be unlocked, bcuz u need to pay for unlock code. So, no root, no custom ROM. This is like kicking dead whales down the beach. Compensated by uninstalling Google and Facebook (what have YOU forgotten here?) apps with ADB

>>17742 debotnetting is not really compensation, certain telemetry registry values for example you are only allowed to change on Enterprise Edition (tm). At least go LTSB if you can't drop win10. Also, not flashing another ROM means you are still stuck with Google Play Services, which is essentially a rootkit Google can use for whichever purposes. You haven't really uninstalled Google nor are you empowered to do so.

>I wanted to share a little video on a forum. >Said forum only support youtube links. >Created a google account in order to create a youtube account in order to upload my soykafty 30s video. However I'm never connected and use alternatives like invidious and soykaf. But it's to late and I feel dirty now.

>>2367 I use WhatsApp, and recently created an Instagram account because I was bored. Both implies the far worse sin that I have a phone.

>>17745 do you want to dm in telegram? i'm bored

I dual boot with windows 10 and use windows boot manager I use a phone but not as much as I used to I do non-anonymous things but try to seperate it from my anonymous activity

It's because of damn bootloader

Yeah, I honestly don't care that much. windows, android phone, google chrome, steam, discord, zoom, valorant (lol, but not anymore fuarrrk that game) have facebook and instagram

>>5624 Still using Windows XP is actually kind of /cyb/ >>9097 Better randomize your MAC address too. >>17751 I'm going VFIO or nothing with Windows. Windows will be in its own little jail (and debotnetted), unable to spy on anything besides games in the VM. >I own a Microsoft Xbox and play online games on it It seems pretty obvious that your movements in games (not to mention the menus) can be fingerprinted and also analyzed for psychological traits.