Turner · 2024-10-30 10:24
Umm, anyone care to explain what happened to the thread about the Linux Foundation being forced to reject international collaboration due to US shenanigans? This is a rather important topic concerning the future of Linux and free software more broadly.
I would hate to think it got completely wiped with no lock or notification out of some completely arbitrary justification for topicality when junk threads like "is Windows good guys" get left up. Unfortunately I am unable to spot it on any other board if it was moved.
Ein · 2024-10-30 11:32
It very likely got deleted/hidden for some reason. I also cannot find it in the catalog. No idea why tho
Case · 2024-10-30 11:37
>>12954
Yeah, it got deleted or hidden, i remember seeing a thread about this too
Appleman1234 · 2024-10-30 14:17
>>12954
It was deleted for Rule 4 violations, and Rule 1 violations, and because threads like that without specification of what you want to discuss lead to threads being derailed by Rule 3 violation lazy replies to match the lazy OP.
Divisional politics isn't an important topic in the concept of free software, it is just drama, the solution is fork it and move on.
Please make a better thread that doesn't just result in US good / Russia bad or Russia good / US bad, and actually elaborates with what you want to discuss about the topic, not just reposting a 3 line summary of news articles.
Legal sanctions have very little impact on the future of Linux and free software , and just impact commercial companies and foundations , the recent EU liability legislation for software has a much more significant impact on free software's future.
Cowboy · 2024-10-30 16:31
>>12957
It certainly wasn't a lazy OP, I provided an explanation of a recent current event and I posed a clear question pertaining to where I would like the discussion to lead. And indeed, we were in fact having an engaging discussion relating to that OP. It is of course difficult to argue a case when you nuke entire threads so the evidence is gone.
>Rule 1 violations
I really don't even understand what you're trying to imply here. That I made multiple threads? (I didn't)
>politics isn't important
You just had politics smack you across the face and you want to believe they don't matter. Like it or not, the GPL is a license written for US law, projects hold copyrights within the US precisely in order to enforce that license, and the US is now acting in a way that undermines the utility of that license internationally. And yes, having a myriad of forks that only exist because collaboration has been externally sabotaged, does in fact impact the state of free software as a whole. It impacts the quality of those projects themselves, and it impacts people's ability to organize around things more generally.
Most of this explanation simply seems to be a justification for your perspective on the irrelevance of politics in software. That's a perspective worth expressing in discussion and that's where I would respect it. But it is still only your opinion. Just today we are already seeing events set in motion that seem to be indicative of the future, as the Russian government is proposing a hard fork of Linux open to others who will actually collaborate with their developers. You may try to put your head in the sand, but it's not going to change what's happening.
I feel like now would be a good time to remind you that people don't use lainchan for you personally. They do it for the community.
Hououin Kyouma · 2024-11-23 00:27
Linus decided he didn't want any Russian back doors in the kernel, so he refused to overrule the international (not "USA") sanctions. And he mentioned the army of Kremlin trolls out pretending to be "grass roots" protesters. Like you. Go make trouble somewhere else.