fuck lainchan

This post will probably get deleted within a few minutes We have came to the point where anything offensive or anti-lgbtq gets deleted, where free speech gets derezzed and where noone cares once someone uploads actual messed up stuff. In the picture below there's a thread with potentially C/|P links (that I have censored) and a picture of C/|P as well. fuarrrk lainchan. fuarrrk lainchan admins. Get a fuarrrking brain trannies. Pedo supporters.

Thankfully, I don't think any of the Lainons themselves support this kind of garbage if nothing else. Really hoping the post is deleted soon... it's been up for too long already.

have you considered that maybe there's no mods on right now? https://lainchan.org/staffapplication.html

I'm here for technology. Not Nazis, pedos, trannies, glitterboys, CIS-hets, whites, blacks, chinks, spics blah blah blah

>>11187 This tends to usually be the case, anyone that uses the lainchan IRC knows that there are a lot of times where mods aren't online or are AFK or something, there is also usually a dead period where all the mods are offline. TL;DR: It's difficult to get mods online 100% of the time.

>>11188 This. I don't care about trannies and can easily ignore them until obsessed glitterboys feels the need to bring them up. It doesn't make for interesting, nor productive conversation. Trannies are gross and bad and annoying and pedophiles and a lot of them attempt suicide. Okay. Anything else? No, there isn't.

I'd raise fuarrrk moderated imageboards. What's a replacement? XMPP group chats? Maybe keeping them invite only? If even indie IBs like lainchan fall like this, it's time to start testing out other stuff. No my request is not automated. This website is indeed gross to use. It's quite retarded to keep dragging its bones around.

>>11185 I was asleep. I am sorry and I mean it. Immediately after I woke up I dealt with it, but you need to post this in >>>/q/ when you wanna kvetch about the mods not doing enough. I do agree with you that CP being up for ~3.5 hours is unacceptable, but we do what we can. As someone mentioned, we don't have mods on during that hour. You, or anyone here, should apply if you are interested in helping to prevent things like this in the future. I would highly recommend it, just know its a (generally) thankless job (some people are nice and do say things from time to time) and that you aren't doing it for yourself, you are doing it for a community that you truly care about. >>11192 >complains about the lack of moderation, then complains about the "over-moderation" in the same post The CP spam was way worse in the past and we mitigate most of it, more specifically, we don't get anywhere near as much as we used to be of what you are complaining about. I wish there was a way to avoid it impacting actual lainons, but we have not been able to sit down and work out a solution that can make everyone at least a little happier.

>>11193 >we have not been able to sit down and work out a solution that can make everyone at least a little happier You could start by filtering all shortened urls. Anything that start with bit. is 99.99999% of the time spam of some kind. The entire concept of url shotenening is duplicitous, so you're not harming any legitimate usage since there is none.

>>62830 >indie >gross to use >dragging its bones around if you don't like it than leave. In fact I hope you do and never come back.

>>11185 In fairness, most things pro-lgbt get deleted too. >Flood detected; Post discarded. Seriously this soykaf needs to stop though.

>>11196 Could there be a /bans/ page? I think 4 has one. One where you can see an archived list of all derezzed posts with the corresponding reason. Ofc illegal images are not kept, and maybe links could be changed. It could prevent ideological censorship. As for shadowbans, there is a 4hnac archive whose name I don't remember but if you browse it and compare it to the threads on the actual websife you get to see the shadowderezzed posts and their nature. Basically they censor certain opinions and ideas, even if they break no rule. Such an archive would be even better than the ban page, and the best thing is that it could be made by anyone, not just mods or admins. I couldn't do it myself, but there's an idea.

>>11198 > there is a 4hnac archive whose name I don't remember but if you browse it and compare it to the threads on the actual websife you get to see the shadowderezzed posts and their nature. Basically they censor certain opinions and ideas, even if they break no rule. this is bullshit, how would the archives get access to the posts if they're shadowderezzed?

>>11199 maybe youre talking about 'ghost posts' IE people using the archive itself to post?

>>11198 You mean like https://lainchan.org/bans ? or something different ?

Lainchan would be good if they didn't keep deleting pictures of ponies

>>11199 They archive posts in real time. Then when the mods delete or ghost them, they're still there on the archive. >>11200 There were threads saying that such posts were only visible at the archive because they'd been deleted from the site itself. They could've been bullshit if what you say was the case. I don't remember the name of the archive in question, to check if it has that posting feature. >>11201 Yeah. I didn't know it already existed. Disregard my opinion for I suck dicks.

>>11185 why do you guys hate trannies who comprise 70% of lain fans? most of us are just trying to exist. waving your hand and calling us all pedos doesn't mean it's true.

>>11206 Trannies are amputee (and other) fetishists and diseased people. Their "identity" literally has no place in any healthy community not specifically set up for them. They belong on the more extreme parts of FetLife and even on FL extreme self-mutilation is not-done in most groups. They belong on mental health forums, or forums of whatever medicinal tradition of their ancestors. Not pretty much anywhere else. Deliberately exposing children to trannies is traumatising and it is child abuse. Trannies who confront children with disease deliberetely are child abusers, trannies who confront children with their fetish are child sexual abusers, period.

The worst thing about lainchan are the auto-censors based on derezzed WORDS. If you include a certain word in the post that the jannies dont want you to talk about, it's censored. This is jootube / reddit tier censorship, and why I stopped contributing to this censored hence artifical "forum".

Wah wah wah why does this site that I came to to escape the soykaffest /g/'s become not work and act exactly like /g/? I'm sure there's a nice thread on /lgbt/ or an IRC channel somewhere where you can screech about Trannies or whatever your flavour of the month enemy happens to be as much as you like, it is not the point or responsibility of lainchan to facilitate your obsession

>>11215 Are ypu talking about post filters ? This is mostly done to stop SPAM bots, and people that attempt to raid or spam boards. Or are you talking about language enhancers which improve your posts using synonyms ? If you stopped contributing here , why are you posting in this /q/ thread ?

>>11194 Last time we added a generic regex blocking short url , we got too many complaints from users using legitimate urls to link stuff. We have filtered some link shorteners that get used by SPAM bots , but that has to be done one by one, and not for the entire concept.

>We have came to the point where anything offensive or anti-lgbtq gets deleted, where free speech gets derezzed and where noone cares once someone uploads actual messed up stuff. Good.

>carcinoma who can't read the rules page wants to be taken seriously good riddance :)

>>11206 They hate us because they need to project their suppressed feelings onto minorities or through a medium where they have support, like religion and small groups. The number of people who think like >>11213 are dropping every day, and since there's two pandemics going on and they tend to have room temperature IQ, it'll probably only be a few years before they can't scream loud enough for anyone to hear. Don't feed the trolls, most people here don't hate us, and the ones that do don't tend to stay long once they realize this isn't 4chan. Lurk more, fuarrrk the trolls.

>>11193 I have a few suggestions to minimize the effect on users. 1. Don't show hidden threads in the catalog view so that once lain has reported and hidden the thread, they can continue browsing without seeing it again. 2. Allow reporting and hiding of threads directly from the catalog so that for spam threads with multiple images, only one is exposed to the lainons who browse the catalog. 3. A setting that spoilers all images, so that thumbnails are not cached or viewed. 4. A setting that pixelizes thumbnails serverside, so that the actual thumbnails are not cached or viewed, but lainons still have a hint to the contents of images before opening them. 4.1. I don't know what moderation tooling is like for lainchan, but perhaps mods would appreciate pixelization of images in the report queue if you don't have it already? >>11205 Archives that use the fuuka/foolfuuka frontend will show an icon on deleted posts but also allow archive users to reply to threads on the archive itself. Those replies are called ghost posts. However, the archived deleted posts don't indicate shadow banning, just normal post deletion. If a user was shadow derezzed, 3rd party archives would not see their post either. I'm also not aware if there's any 3rd party lainchan archive, but I don't think it matters. Archives are responsible for their own moderation and most imageboard users browse the imageboard directly, not the archives. Shadowbans are probably a moot point anyway since the spammers probably use different Tor exit nodes or proxies each time. >>11219 >Last time we added a generic regex blocking short url , we got too many complaints from users using legitimate urls to link stuff. Could this be mitigated by applying the filter only to "suspicious" IP addresses? Tor exit nodes, IPs that have been flagged for abuse by anti-spam lists, or IPs that have never posted on lainchan before?

>>11193 how about not deleting posts that dont break the rules but you personally disagree with you slimy ratfaced piece of shit

>>11198 nope because 99% of the content that gets deleted here is something mods dont personally agree with, not because illegal content is posted or breaking the rules this site is unusable and any real conversation here is impossible because of this very reason

>>11225 noone is "trolling" retard the disgust is genuine

>>11218 >>11218 >Or are you talking about language enhancers which improve your posts using synonyms ? . . . >improve

imagine being a fan of an anime about a girl transcending her physical form or whatever the fuarrrk and then bitching and moaning about muh trannies

>>11231 If I deleted everything I personally disagree, this place would be the most infamous hate machine on the planet. Get your head out of your ass, kiddo. I ban tranny chimpouts and tranny hate alike. I ban anti-White and anti-nigger sentiment alike. I ban cp and I ban people who cry about CP (outside of /q/.) You break the rules, I delete your soykaf. Simple as >waaaaah but i wanna break the rules Go QQ about it on /pol/ or /lgbt/ or whatever soykafhole you crawled out of, pathetic coward.

>>11235 larping as a mod is against the rules buddy

>>11236 I know.

>admits to banning content that he doesnt like which doesnt break the rules >noooooo i dont do that what a retard lmao

>>11238 >filtered, even though I led him right to it. >You break the rules, I delete your soykaf I have yet to see one of the things I listed that doesn't break rule 3 and 4. Not once.

>>11235 Get over yourself no one even know about your soykafty website except a small group of lonely old men pretending to be women and /g/ tourists

>>11239 >muh ebin baiting xDee go back to jacking it off to children everyone knows youre a pedophile now

>>11240

>>11243 unfathomably based >body was too short ff

>>11242 >complains about a report turnaround time 6x faster than most actual internet services by calling an unpaid volunteer who was likely asleep at the time a pedo entitled aren't we? have you applied to be a janitor yet?

>>11252 >conveniently ignores that same pedo mods deletes complains and anti pedo talk on this website retarded aren't we ?

>>11257 >conveniently ignores "if you break the rules, I will delete your soykaf" braindead aren't we ?

>>11252 >not wanting to see pedos rape kids is "entitlement" have you tried killing yourself yet ?

>>11258 except the mods delete content they dont agree with regardless if it breaks rules or not, while they let pedo soykaf stay up on the board for hours why the fuarrrk are you defending this lmaoooo are you a fuarrrking pedophile ? holy soykaf youre a fuarrrking pedo this website turned into a groomfest

>>11260 >except the mods delete content they dont agree with regardless if it breaks rules or not, while they let pedo soykaf stay up on the board for hours >why the fuarrrk are you defending this lmaoooo are you a fuarrrking pedophile ? holy soykaf youre a fuarrrking pedo this website turned into a groomfest

>>11261 i accept your concession

>>11262 I do not concede, glitterboy. You're literally retarded.

>>11263 i dont care what you do youre a pedophile and you defend pedophile content and pedophile mods. your opinion is worthless

>>11264(USER WAS BASED FOR THIS POST. BANNER REQUEST IN IRC.)

haha gotta love the way b& derailers start crying out to the users as if we aren't grateful that the rules are being enforced. a thousand sites to choose from and they can't accept that this one doesnt want them. BAWWW! >>11229 >4.1. I don't know what moderation tooling is like for lainchan, but perhaps mods would appreciate pixelization of images in the report queue if you don't have it already? Leftypol's lainchan fork has a blur feature to enable during /poI/ gore/CP raids. Wouldn't be hard to mod it to pixelize. https://git.leftypol.org/leftypol/leftypol/src/branch/config/js/blur-images.js It's not going to prevent the original thumbnail from being delivered, if the cache is really a concern.

>>11229 Thank you for your suggestions, I will look into to them, when I get some time, however the development effort and time for some of those suggestions is much larger than others because of architectural decisions made during tinyboard / vichan days. It couldn't reliably be mitigated by applying the filter to only suspicious IP addresses because of the previous point you made, e.g. the spammers probably use different Tor exit nodes or proxies each time. >>11266 I will look into this, but this relies on either being always on and being enabled in Options client side by the user, or having staff manually change the JavaScript includes when stuff occurs, which makes less sense then just handling the report and deleting the relevant post / thread.

>>11267 >re:11266 It's currently a checkbox that users enable, always included, not a forced temporary thing. If the mod queue usually has intersite gross spam then it could make sense to have a script in the js/mod/ folder, included and defaulted on the report viewing page.

> >>62789 posts pony picture which is related to the topic about GNU/Linux <NOOOOOOOOOOO! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO POST PONIES! DEELEEETTTUUUUDDD! > >>12265 posts random pony picture <USER WAS BASED FOR DIS POST! So if anyone adds the words "lainchan" to a random pony picture, it's allowed. Time to post more ponies ^_^

>>11269 /q/ tends to not delete things. If you were to spam, this would be a different case. So, please be kind.

>>11266 how does that boot taste like

>>11193 There, there, it's ok. (but don't tell people you don't have anyone on during some time, what are you doing?) As long as you are doing your best and your politics aren't like the worst and most retarded in the world, you are probably in the top percentages for janitors, globally speaking.

>>11235 >Always argue in good faith and avoid using personal attacks. >pathetic coward. Uh oh, kashiwe bwoke da woos! But seriously, how can a site dedicated to lain completely bastardize the point of the story to this degree? It's almost unbelievable. Almost. Go ahead and explain why you don't allow all legal speech except for spam and whatnot. Free exchange of ALL ideas. You can't. Lain does not exist on this platform. >t. mod just removed my post which said white people are genetically different from other groups of people It's actually reddit, there is no difference.

>>11299 >Go ahead and explain why you don't allow all legal speech except for spam and whatnot. There are other imageboards for that. This is actually a tactic used by federal agents, calling for total freedom and then spamming, and generally doing this until the imageboard would be destroyed.

>>11300 I know what you're referring to, but calling for violence is already illegal speech. The point is that it's just offensive calling yourself "lainchan" and then actively disrupting the power of a distributed think tank. Like, what are you actually suggesting would happen? Feds would come on the site and call for violence, and would get derezzed? They could do that right now, too. I'll say it again, Lain isn't here. Do you know why reddit and twitter are such unproductive spaces? Because you can't be mean to people, or else you get derezzed. So if you disagree with someone, you have to pretend like they're not some mouth breathing ape and explain to them rationally why they're wrong. That's bad enough, but on top of that, they censor you for bringing up certain points. These two factors make such spaces absolute cancer to navigate, and the more time you spend on those platforms, the more you will subconsciously integrate a worldview astroturfed by censorship, and assume that's how things actually are. How are things any different here? You can't call people retards. Okay. That's pretty bad, but as long as you can share information in a non-hostile manner, it's not the end of the world. Well, there's a lot of information you can't share here in a non-hostile manner either. You just get derezzed for saying things completely dispassionately, without any malice. That's why it's no exaggeration to say lainchan is just an imageboard equivalent to reddit/twitter. It's essentially a grift: using Lain as a brand and not because any of the people running the site actually agree with the message of the series. They appear to be hall monitors who gleefully suppress any beginnings of mischief (which is why this strategy necessarily kills funposting). It's not like I don't understand the concerns about feds coming onto sites and spamming calls to action to get it taken offline, but I think I've outlined here why that concern doesn't make any sense, and even if it were still a concern, the staff would be far better off saying their hands were tied and they were unable to host controversial opinions for fear of being targeted by feds and having their moderation staff overwhelmed. That would be dubious, but at least valid. As it stands, the staff are really just showing that they want to carve some kind of personal cyberpunk niche for themselves, not that the plot of SEL actually resonated with them.

>>11299 >Uh oh, kashiwe bwoke da woos! Anyone can call you a retarded nigger on /q/ all they want. >he can't tell the difference Filtered like the filthy subhuman nigger you are. You have to go back.

>>11302 You're the one that has to go back. You don't even understand SEL in the first place; you literally watched it and thought "waaaow, this is so deep, maybe I can use it to brand myself and earn social points for being esoteric." Which one of us has a nigger brain again? Prove me wrong, summarize the takeaway from SEL succinctly. Tell me how it applies to imageboards. >you can't I know

>>11301 Why is it called Lainchan? It's because the dumb nigger who made it called it that, but he hasn't been around for years. I'm here for the nice boards, not Lain.

>>11299 >Go ahead and explain why you don't allow all legal speech except for spam and whatnot. Free exchange of ALL ideas. Because every time someone says something like this, it's followed by ridiculous soykaf no one wants to hear; if your ideas or ideology can't be spoken about anywhere many people congregate, it's probably not because someone is trying to censor you, it's because no one wants to listen to your conspiracy-crazed nonsense or your failed ideology, and the people who fall into those two groups are the only ones who complain about this stuff. Go find your echo chamber somewhere else instead of trying to force it on others because you've been kicked off every other platform for entirely valid reasons. This is the internet. You have free speech. If you feel you don't have free speech, it's because the majority of places aren't interested in what you have to say. Thank Lain the mods have corralled all you crazies in one board. >Lain does not exist on this platform. If your interpretation of the show is not accurately represented here, why not find somewhere else in the wired? The amount of people that bitch about something rather than just taking the exit door in a world of infinite websites and communities is absolutely baffling, which is exactly why I almost never visit /q/.

>>11306 >>11305 Where's the argument? Both of these equate to "you're weird" or "I perceive your argument as unpopular so it must be silenced." Very low IQ argumentation which basically defers to animal instinct so I assume you're both either women or have brown skin. The point of online communication is to converge on the truth. If we don't agree on that, then correct me. Assuming we do agree on that, the most effective way to converge on the truth is through a decentralized anonymous think tank where reputation and ego are done away with and ideas can be exchanged freely. This is the appeal of imageboards. Take for example, something >>11306 considers a "failed ideology" that would get censored here, like race realism. Race realism is something that can be proven or disproven using data and logic. With adequate discussion on this intrinsically powerful kind of forum, the truth will inevitably be ascertained. If you were so confident that it lacked merit, you wouldn't be keen on censoring it, because it would eventually just get BTFOd anyway. Moreover, you say "no one wants to see it," which is funny because you would think the default reaction would be indifference, not a negative emotional reaction -- "get this away from me! filtered! silenced! derezzed!". This just serves as further confirmation that it's borne of insecurity, perception of inferiority; not rational thinking.

>>11303 What the fuarrrk is SEL? I just work here.

I like the censorship on this site because it increases the ratio of (stuff I want to see)/(stuff I don't want to see), making the site more useful, and more time efficient. Eventually, the censorship policy will diverge from my interests, and I will need somewhere new. Hopefully I'll be able to find it. I was only able to find this site after many platforms with worse (for me) censorship. Saying 'go somewhere else' is a bit like saying 'just get a good job to a poor person bitching at you.' You're right, but they're in this position because they're lazy, so you need to make the solution easy to use. Here is my cursory search for more anti-trans tech discussion platforms. https://anon.cafe/cyber/catalog.html Seems kinda dead, less censored https://wirechan.org/wired/index.html Seems less censored http://uquusqsaaad66cvub4473csdu4uu7ahxou3zqc35fpw5d4ificedzyqd.onion/ Kiwifarms is down r/n but has a tech subforum, lots of anti-trans feeling. I see the best possibility for you asking for links/suggestions there. I wish you all the best, and great luck. We've all been on platforms that weren't silencing ideas we don't want to hear, and silencing ideas we do. All you can do is try to find your people, and extract value from the soykafty platforms through brief, to the point usage, IE reading reddit posts when troubleshooting.

>>11267 Another suggestion: I think it was mentioned in the thread about the guy who spams butthole conspiracy stuff that lainchan has OCR scanning images for texts. I've noticed over the past month that one of the frequent pedo spammers always uses an image of pedobear with "vid pic lolita" on it. Could that phrase be blacklisted from images? It didn't seem as though the image that was spammed did anything to prevent OCR detection.

>>11307 Now you guys are accepting Kiwi Farms Refugees?

>>11243 you are really, really trying hard to own someone.

>>11393 But I barely put any effort into it. So, thank you for saying my 15 second gimp edit looks good, I guess.

>We have came to the point where anything offensive or anti-lgbtq gets deleted Shitty wojack spam gets deleted, but I've had several discussions on /hum/ where many users made extremely offensive anti-lgbtq statements which were never deleted. All you have to do is participate in discussion in good faith. It's not hard. I know you really want to feel persecuted but you just aren't.