so lainchan.jp is changing their name

You know things are going to soykaf when even lainchan.jp doesn't want to be associated with us. First we lose all of our affiliates and now lainchan.jp doesn't even want our name anymore. I don't see this as victory. I see this as depressing. Appleman's handling of affairs since the split is affecting our reputation far beyond the reaches of this image board. I'm not saying things can't improve, perhaps they even will, but I think we should look at this as a wake up call. https://lainchan.jp/q/res/777.html#777

Well at least we'll have the name to ourselves now... Whatever is left of it anyways.

who even cares? just keep using the site, what's the point in stressing over whether some guys at some other community like us or not.

Why do you think that we should remotely care if they're going to change their name or not? This looks more like blatant advertisement. Anyways I doubt that's going to be the case, it seems more like a publicity stunt. Also I don't understand how can they say stuff such as "it's awkward now that applechan is associating with questionable content". When kalyx was here the imageboard used to be nuked with cp. >I think we should look at this as a wake up call. Now that I think about it, appleman sure is like kicking dead whales down the beach

>>4293 >Anyways I doubt that's going to be the case, it seems more like a publicity stunt. If it's just a "publicity stunt," then they are putting an unreasonable amount of effort into it. >When kalyx was here the imageboard used to be nuked with cp. Key word: nuked. It was deleted. Not condoned. Just look at Appleman's own words: >The Biyeophile Proposal >https://i.imgflip.com/1urhj.jpg >1. Lock the channels >2. Redirect to an onion messageboard on the same topic Kalyx would have never even entertained the idea of explicitly endorsing and underground pedo ring. That is not to say it reflects highly on Kalyx. It reflects poorly on Appleman. Which reflects poorly on all of us. You have to be pretty fuarrrked in the head to even think about linking to a darkweb pedo site.

>>4292 this sage this soykaf thread and move on. the irc issues are so minor it's only being blown out of proportion because of the other site. ignore it and move on. focus on quality discussion and not soykaf gossip.

>>4295 holy fuarrrk lain you're not 3 years old. >b-buh appleman actually created a win-win situation and i liked it better when kalyx would listen to MY opinions and this is what i mean by blowing drekk out of proportion. >muh sekrit underground darkweb pedo ring!!! it was some soykaf users on irc that liked to talk about kids so appleman directed them elsewhere. that's it. jesus it's like you've never been on the wired. the issue has barely anything to do with this site and irc drama shouldn't spill this much into lainchan since most irc users don't even contribute much to lainchan anyway they just like to complain and stir soykaf. stop bumping this thread

>>4297 lainchan.jp changing their name is still relevant to lainchan.org. Shouldn't we want that?

Ignore the firebrands guys/girls. This is water under the bridge.

Just stop. Please. If you want to change your name and try to make a new community, great. I wish you all the best and will help you where I can but this bullsoykaf is beyond petty. I can't imagine you haven't been paying attention and I can't imagine anyone who has actually believes this soykaf. Nice try and all but look at yourselves. Nobody did soykaf to deserve being called a pedo but that's where we are right now and for what? Worth it? Really? Please, just stop. Let it go. You've so many other options. You can change the name and try to start your own thing or just come back as anons. I couldn't care, but this, the bit where you try and make out that a guy's a pedophile for what? Is just... Just take a step back and let it go. We'll love you anyway.

>>4295 >2. Redirect to an onion messageboard on the same topic This wasn't my idea, It was suggested >>3770 e.g. ILikeBiscuits a mod from lainchan.jp, that claims to care about both sites , and the idea was included because it was a proposal suggested by a lainon, not because it was being ever considered as a viable option, as it was the questions I asked for clarification on from ILikeBiscuits were never answered.

>>4296 So minor yet it was worthy to address in a news post by herr apfelmensch. Imagine that, an imageboard whose mascot is a young girl happens to have a group of pedophiles in their midst. You can try to sweep this under the rug all you want but people don't forget disgusting pedo soykaf. >>4301 Regardless of whether he's actually a pedo or not, by managing a site that harbors them, he's lumped in by mere association. Not something you'd want following you around in the real world.

This is just blatant advertisement. It's obvious they never intended on changing their name, just defaming this sites because the most popular choice over there has no chance of ever becoming a reality. Kalyx himself said that there was no way that name would be implemented (arisuchan).

>>4302 redirect them to http://itanimulli.com

>>4304 >by managing a site that harbors them Again, nobody who's been paying attention actually believes this. He did ban them.

>>4304 This is a firebranding example. Ignore it and angry posts in response. I'll sum up the counterarguments. (1) No association with pedophiles. (2) Appeal to the real, dysfunctional world. Thankfully online communities are typically level-headed.

>>4308 I pay attention, and I do think (know) this. He only derezzed them after a week-long squabble with the community. He was never going to do anything, never cared or wanted to, but was forced to because people kept giving him so much soykaf.

>>4310 >too detached from reality to understand basic concepts This is a debased pedophile sympathizer. Ignore it and continue to help clean up this community if you aren't a useless nihilist. I'll sum up their nonsense (1) keep your head in the sand and let the pedos be pedos (2) is a clueless NEET or one of those lazy assholes who convince themselves not to act on anything. Thankfully there's still people out here like >>4311 who aren't here to larp some stupid cyberpunk "n0 r00lz" fantasy.

>It's awkward now that applechan is associating with questionable content like (you know what I mean) sorry, can someone fill me in on the drama on of the last month or two. .org still seems to be alive and well

>>4317 pedophiles and cp

>>4284 .jp is hardly active. Keeping the lainchan name for themeselves is only confusing people as a disadvantage to them; lainchan.org already has the name recognition. Don't believe me? Check out the .org irc or just compare bump activity between /all/ and /mega/. If you are judging success by activity this site is more successful. Kalyx might be a more interesting person than Appleman but the community is what makes the site, and lainchan has it. If only appleman and the .jp mods could settle their differences and work together on .org...

>>4319 >If only appleman and the .jp mods could settle their differences and work together on .org... Honestly, this is this Lainon's wet dream. The best parts of .org and the best parts of .jp would make the ultimate imageboard. Appleman has demonstrated he's able to learn from his mistakes lately, with stuff like removing the boards list and warning posts, so here's to hoping he'll eventually come to his senses about the things that drove the .jp staff away to begin with. From there, a reconciliation just might be possible.

>>4320 I'm glad to hear other lainons have this dream. But it's a battle of egos and frankly Kalyx is pretty immature with dealing with these sorts of situations, especially considering he deleted lainchan.org for the lulz/out of spite. I can't speak for Junk or other mods since I never knew them behaviorally too well, which might reflect well on them. That said the .jp mods are really creative and gave lainchan a certain spark. But now they're stuck with a dead imageboard.

>>4311 >He only derezzed them after a week-long squabble with the community. He derezzed them after two days. He's not the fastest about anything, everyone knows that, but you'd be mad to jump to the conclusion that he hass a particular sympathy when he did what he always does. >>4317 Long story short, lots of detail missing here. Kalyx used an old admin account to delete the server. About a week later two of the mods+kalyx decided they didn't like Appleman and wanted to make their own site. They used their mod accounts to try to redirect people to their site. Since then (about a month ago) /q/ has been full of tons of posts with the same complaints (like suspiciously tons). It started off being pretty fair, it was complaints that he was too slow or too formal or other things but when it became apparent that these weren't unsolvable problems and most people didn't really care too much about them in the first place it started to go downhill. Now, it's ludicrous allegations that he's a pedo. In the meantime kalyx fuarrrked up and outed himself as one of the "concerned lainons" making so many posts to the great surprise of no-one. Whole thing has been an utter clusterfuck. >>4320 >>4321 Yeah. The only way this really ends is that we sit down and talk about it like we were always going to have to from the start. At the same time, abuse of mod powers has been a thing here. I'd love to have those people back but putting them in a position where they could do similar things again is probably not wise. There are other options though I'm sure.

>>4322 they had a sit down and talk more than once before all this happened.

>>4323 Exactly. The whole reason the split occurred is because Appleman was/is impossible to work with. What I'm saying is that I hope he can eventually see this about himself and learn to actually co-operate with people.

>>4324 I'm actually surprised it didn't happen sooner based on the new levels of autism we're hitting. How they put up with this for months on end tells me they do actually care about the community, and did make an effort to sort things out but here we are today, split and now with a pedo problem on .org >inb4 jp spy etc. lol no fuk u >>4323 It was just that... all talk. Nothing actually productive.

>>4323 That was a long time ago. >>4324 You have to understand how hollow this sounds. "I won't work with him because he's impossible to work with despite that most of the mod team chose to stay and tons of people have spent the past month helping him out since all this went down." He isn't the one who's being the problem here.

>>4319 >.jp is hardly active Yeah, but lainchan.org is 3 years old and lainchan.jp is 3 months old. > If only appleman and the .jp mods could settle their differences and work together on .org... Why is everything about what *they* decide to do? What is stopping Appleman from joining lainchan.jp? Many > one.

>>4330 Because he holds a domain that is *a lot* better. Which gives him negotioation leverage. On a side note the .jp strawpoll on changing the name has a total of 17 votes.

>>4333 >Which gives him negotioation leverage. The two sites aren't immediately such a threat to each other and nobody is in a position to force anyone to do anything. The only good reason to sit down and talk is because fundamentally we want the same things.

>>4333 b-but we have more users!?!? If the talk were to happen it would require some mediation to keep the levels of severe autism in check. This isn't even a joke anymore, speaking of which, the "joke tag" is introduced to help these retards because they can't tell the difference.

>>4293 You forget that all imageboards without active moderation get nuked with cp. It's over and done with now, but Appleman's hesitant handling of the IRC fiasco really left something to be desired, especially a bad taste in the mouth of Sushichan and Uboachan users who I think used to be closer to this board. There have been many potential wake-up calls to be had here, but the best thing you can do is keep quality posting. This place doesn't need any more bad PR.

Guys just push them to change their name so we never have to talk about them ever again.

>>4369 This guy gets it. Also, I highly doubt they'll change their name. I think it was more to further publicize the issues this site was having at the time. Trust me, three months from now we'll still be having shiIIs from .jp coming here trying to convince everyone they're the one true lainchan

>>4369 We should have sent them a cease and desist a long time ago anyways. Why don't we do it now and finish them off?

>>4387 We don't own Lain

>>4478 >>4387 The real owners of Lain(tm) are more likely to shut both sites down. The fact that they are still standing despite using a ton of copyrighted imagery and offering resources to pirate the show is a miracle. However, this could change any moment especially if this pedo soykaf continues, they will have a defamation case against us. (by 'us' I mean the current site owner for allowing the character to be associated with pederasts) >inb4 alarmist once you get the notice, it's too late to do anything by then. This community does not have the resources to stand up in court. and that will be the story of .org

>>4479 Lmao.

>>4479 >>>lainchan.jp

Why don't we hold them accountable for this? Force them to change their name. It is fuarrrking retarded having two lainchans show up in Google.

>Stop discussing things that trigger me! No platform for anyone I don't like! OP, I think I've got a solution for you. If you hate free speech, there's a great site for you. It's called Reddit. Reddit's mods will make sure you don't have to listen to any of that triggering wrongthink. You should really go there and stop spending so much time and energy trying to turn the entire internet into your hugbox.

>>4542 Go back to 4chan, lol.

>>4543 >Go back to 4chan, lol. go back to jp

>>4544 >go back to jp go back to org

Serious question: will the two lainchans ever merge back together?

>>4547 serious answer: When there is a cure for severe autism.

>>4543 4chan bans anyone who questions American age of consent laws, whether their posts break any laws or not.

So after all this time, are they gonna actually rename themselves or not?

>>4550 >So after all this time, are they gonna actually rename themselves or not? I think we should legally force them to.

>>4550 >So after all this time, are they gonna actually rename themselves or not? Why don't you ask them? https://lainchan.jp/q/res/777.html#777

Why do so many of you even care about all this drama soykaf? Just ignore the site if it bothers you that much. There's no need to legally force an obscure cyberpunk imageboard to rename their site. Jeez.

>>4551 How? Neither of them own rights to the name. Keep drawing attention to it and some fuarrrking copyright lawyer would just ruin it for everyone.

>>4553 >Why do so many of you even care about all this drama soykaf? Just ignore the site if it bothers you that much. There's no need to legally force an obscure cyberpunk imageboard to rename their site. Jeez. Because their site is gaining traction. I've been keeping an eye on it and every day their /all/ is getting faster. That affects us. We should do something about it before they leech more users. Every post there is a post that should have happened here.

>>4555 That's not how that works at all. Their success isn't our loss. Why would it be? You say they're "leeching" users but our post rates haven't dropped. They've tried to start all sorts of soykaf but it's over now. Everybody who cared enough to pick a side already has and we aren't going to go and try and cause soykaf for them because it just hurts everyone.

>>4557 >That's not how that works at all. Yes. It does. What if their posts surpasses ours? Then people will think they are now the main lainchan.

>>4558 the funny thing is they have all the original founders, moderators, creators and old user users. which one is the real main lainchan?

>>4559 Then why don't you go there?

>>4561 le gb2jp meme its like you want people to leave.

>>4562 >le gb2jp meme its like you want people to leave. I don't want you to leave. You've already made your choice. I'm asking you to go back where you came from. And sure, things are picking up there. So fuarrrking what. I don't get it. What do they do we can't do better?

>>4558 lol is this a blockchain joke?

>>4558 >What if their posts surpasses ours? Nothing but that's a moot point anyway because >>4555 is full of soykaf.. Every time someone says this I find it hard to believe so I go and do a quick count. .jp posts on 08-05 (i.e. yesterday BST wise): 33. I counted 100 on lainchan in the 8 hours from 16:00-00:00 before getting bored. Extrapolating we get about 300. I've only counted maybe 3 times in the past and never wrote anything down but that is the worst they've done by a long shot. Usually it's 20-40%. Don't get me wrong, I only checked because I thought I was being lied to (and would you look at that). Their post count, even if it was actually increasing, is thoroughly not my problem. >>4559 >they have all the original founders, moderators, creators and old user users. Nope, more lies. Most of the mods stayed, most of the old users stayed. >>4562 ShiIls always play both sides. Why wouldn't you?

>>4565 I find it hard to believe their post count would exceed ours. Maybe it did for a day or so but there's usually some self-shiling going on there to generate activity. Yeah... even on their own site but whatever.

Are you people fuarrrking children? Jesus christ, i understand kalyx coming here to wage slave (i would sell my virgin asshole to the biggest dick you can find to fuarrrk me without any kind of lubrification if OP isn't kalyx), but you people taking the bait is really tiresome. It's very, very, very simple. JP is another side, let them hire hookers and inject cocaine down their urethra if they want, it is not the same community, it is not the same ambient, ignore it, visit it, don't visit it, but for the love of baby satan discuss JP at JP, this isn't jp, it's been long enough for the subject to be irrelevant, this is as on-topic with /q/ as talking about 4chan or infinitychan, what the fuarrrk.

>>4567 >going through mental gymnastics to imply .org and .jp aren't related. Say all you want, it's obvious that .jp discussion is related to this site. They have a bunch of former mods and admins there, and even the same name. Trying to pretend they're "just another chan" isn't going to end well for anybody.

>>4570 Can you please elaborate? How does discussing .jp makes .org a better place and/or improves this community?

>>4332 >On a side note the .jp strawpoll on changing the name has a total of 17 votes. Month later, they have 18 votes. Weren't there like 12 mods from the start? They are going to have more affiliated sites than non-mod users.

>>4567 Sadly, it doesn't quite work like that. There's an old saying "No character, no matter how upright, can withstand reiterated slander." It's not quite true but you do have to do something about it (i.e. point out they're full of soykaf). >>4570 >Trying to pretend they're "just another chan" isn't going to end well for anybody. How? What's gonna happen if we do that? Jack soykaf is what. That's what they are, some other chan. Fair enough they can come here as anons and talk to us, anyone can, but everybody got bored of talking about them a long time ago. I will be around to make sure the outright lies get refuted but other than that we're approaching the point where they're just talking to the wall.

Just close all of the .jp threads and direct all discussion of .jp to .jp. They have absolutely nothing to do with us anymore.