lainchan / q

The Future

Appleman1234 · 2017-04-11 12:26
Since everything is gone, this is a thread so that people can ask for stuff they want remade or to be brought back. I am also looking for people to help to moderate, administer and janitor the site and services, because whilst I can continue to do it alone, it is much less fun that way. Just because you ask for something on this thread, doesn't mean it will happen, but it will be considered. Anything repeated will be counted as a single request unless some form of verification of separate entities is provided.
Cereal Killer · 2017-04-11 12:29
Bring back cyb. Don't seperate tech and sec. Just combine the two and have cybtech or something.
Nanashi No Gombe · 2017-04-11 12:31
please bring back /lit/ and all the lainzine stuff also the different banners that were all community made
maps · 2017-04-11 12:31
>>81 I think the idea of setting up some sort of external, userbase-controlled/decentralized storage for collected collective knowledge is a good goal going forward. Let's not let Alexandria burn twice. One user suggested gitlain. Appleman, when you say remade, does this potentially apply to former boards, i.e. /civ/?
Motoko Kusanagi · 2017-04-11 12:32
/w,/ipfs,/foss,/leftypol or /net(as in network technology and science) I am just throwing ideas out.
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2017-04-11 12:33
Keep /tech tooooo shorttttttttt
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2017-04-11 12:33
I request for /f/ to be not hidden when (if) you bring it back, since almost no one was aware of it when it was hidden, and bringing it back would be useful. Also how will you handle your recruitment for new mods/admins/janitors? Do we email you? Do we post resume in this thread with contact details or? >>85 I don't think having /cyb/ is good idea, since whole of lainchan is meant to be "cyb" >>90 >leftypol Personally I don't think having politics board is good, esp having one that limits to one 'side', (/civ/ was still bad, but it was for all views)
maps · 2017-04-11 12:34
Requesting /zzz/, /cult/, /feels/, /lit/. Suggesting /jam/, as a breeding ground for actionable culturejamming.
Jean Dupont · 2017-04-11 12:34
>>94 I actually agree. No politics. /civ was a clusterfuck.
Mitnick · 2017-04-11 12:36
>>81 Obviously /λ/ needs to come back. >>97 >/jam/ for culturejamming What is "culturejamming"? How os that different to /cult/? >>90 Political boards a require a huge amount of effort and time to moderate. While ideally we would like to think people are capable of sensible political discussion, this is just not true online. What would /ipfs/ be? Has there even been enough demand for this?
Marly Krushkhova · 2017-04-11 12:36
>>85 i was under the impression that all boards catered to their own sub-/cyb/ topic and /r/ was for the miscellaneous /cyb/ that didn't fit in, thus making a whole /cyb/ site
maps · 2017-04-11 12:37
Instead of civ, potentially some sort of /delta/, in terms of a ground particularly for argument or advocating for one side? Provides people an outlet for that type of discussion while also being able to have enforceable rules. Could also be used to hold discussions from other boards that get passionate or off topic. Of course, could be problematic as well.
Pris · 2017-04-11 12:39
>>100 /ipfs could be for sharing hashes to files. Also it could be used as a permanent p2p file storage. I was thinking more along the lines of creating demand rather than existing demand, to help the IPFS project grow as I think it's really cool.
Koos van der Merwe · 2017-04-11 12:40
Let's just stop talking bout politics. Other ideas?
Batou · 2017-04-11 12:41
-foss, privacy and cryto board all in the same place please, no windowslets -change theme to something else since we had this for a while -remove space between posts since last time I asked for this I got a response from kalyx saying he liked it that way
Koos van der Merwe · 2017-04-11 12:41
>>90 >ipfs gonna make a wild guess and say you were the guy that made that ipfs thread a while ago >>103 /civ/ was hard to moderate because of rampant argument, if you generalize that to any possible discussion/argument would that not get harder? it depends on what happens when you mix civil discussion on mild topics that people aren't strongly opinionated about with what /civ/ was
Agent Smith · 2017-04-11 12:42
>I am also looking for people to help to moderate You have my keyboard Also I greatly enjoyed the idea of /mega/ It was a great way to lurk the website and an awesome way for getting users discussing and interested in topics they otherwise might never have known they were interested in,
Project 2501 · 2017-04-11 12:42
>>108 No, but that's how I stumbled upon ipfs. >>107 You can change themes yourself.
Void · 2017-04-11 12:43
>>100 Culture jamming is subversive actions, often in the form of guerrila artwork, against mass cultural institutions; a lot of banksy's work could be considered culturejamming. It's arguably very much a cyberpunk approach to effective leverage of power via subversion. The board, over /cult/, would be more of an information repository and discussion form with intent toward action.
Dr. X · 2017-04-11 12:46
can we change or remove "is like kicking dead whales down the beach" fuarrrk derezzed and soykaf are alright because they just swap the words, but putting a whole phrase in ruins post flow
Lain Iwakura · 2017-04-11 12:47
>111 What's the point of any operating system design if you can change it yourself ?
Lady 3Jane.. · 2017-04-11 12:48
>>110 Yes, please bring back /mega/; it was my favorite way to browse. Never found /random/ useful myself, but I'm sure someone did. Please let us know how to respond to your request for mods, etc.
Chan Siu Ming · 2017-04-11 12:48
>>115 "kicking dead whales down the beach" has been around since the very fist language enhancers, it's a great part of lainchan history and culture! I, for one, would be sad to see it go.
Lord Nikon · 2017-04-11 12:49
The only board that got derezzed and I miss dearly is /w/. I need a dedicated weeb board ;-;
maps · 2017-04-11 12:53
>>118 thank you for bringing back mega so that I don't have to change my startpage, bookmarks, or aliases ^^||
Mario Rossi · 2017-04-11 12:54
>>120 /w/eeb culture should be part of /cult, seems to me. Good opportunity to open your eyes on this oh so wide world and so on. (Both for the weebs and the non-weebs.)
Jane Doe · 2017-04-11 12:57
In relation to the radio stream, were all the music files destroyed with the rest of the data? If so, where should we source new music from. I would suggest laintracker (that ironically has a dead torrent of all the trackers files), or are there better ways of getting files in bulk?
Mentat · 2017-04-11 12:59
>>126 I must correct myself. When I said 'trackers files' I meant to say streams files.
maps · 2017-04-11 13:02
>>126 On a similar note, we should figure out where and how we're going to collect, store, and organize the files we've collectively downloaded from this site, as well as peripheral files like the above lainion refers to. I would love to see lainchan craft our own repositories and torrents of releated media that doesn't adhere to the image board (i.e. music)
Joe Bloggs · 2017-04-11 13:03
>>123 /w content had enough traffic to have it's own board. All of it died when /w was deleted.
Yet Another Lainon · 2017-04-11 13:05
>>90 I am also responding to this post to say I think a politics board is bad news. We'll become the target of all these various internet propaganda campaigns that both sides are running. Also having a board explicitly only for radical leftwing politics kinda is like kicking dead whales down the beach.
Roy Batty · 2017-04-11 13:05
I will probably apply for the mod position once I will know which boards we will have.
fsociety · 2017-04-11 13:07
>>133 Don't remove that filter.
Void · 2017-04-11 13:08
>>126 >>131 Personally I don't think lainchan should have its own radio service. There are plenty of other online streaming audio services you can use, and it just adds unnecessary load to the lainchan server.
Hiro Protagonist · 2017-04-11 13:12
>>81 Even though I'm all up for adding new things, I think it wouldn't be a good thing for lainchan in it's current state. I think reducing the amount of boards and merging boards similar ones would be smartest idea right now as activity on boards is very low even though they share simmilar topics (like lamda/tech/cyb).
Jet Black · 2017-04-11 13:13
>>102 >>94 I understand that and maybe I mispoke. Don't bring back /cyb/, but merge /tech/ and /sec/.
Nanashi No Gombe · 2017-04-11 13:14
>>144 I would tend to agree. Boards can be split later if discussion about a specific topic starts to overpower the rest. >>138 How much of a strain was it though, really? I'd be sad to see the radio go, it was my go-to background noise for working.
Netrunner · 2017-04-11 13:14
>>112 I like the idea of a culturejamming board, dunno if it'd get many quality posts though. >>90 As hilarious as it would be to have a lainchan leftypol, and I know we get loads of crossover from leftypol (inc. me) this is probably a bad idea. /foss might be a good idea, perhaps merged with for general linux foss discussion like what /tech had and then there could be a another separate /tech for stuff like network tech, hardware and such?
Netrunner · 2017-04-11 13:14
>>107 >>147 Please don't. This is what makes /g/ so terrible.
Bob Arctor · 2017-04-11 13:15
how about this, rename /cult/ to /cyb/ and keep the other boards.
Neo · 2017-04-11 13:16
>>90 >/leftypol miss me with that communist bullsoykaf, yokel.
Neo · 2017-04-11 13:17
Keep /sci/, /cult/, /zzz/, /sec/ and /lambda/. Please, please, please don't keep /civ/ or any kind of political board, please, please, please. It has nothing to do with lainchan and never had, maybe from a technical discussion it would have something to do with lain, but the only people posting in these boards were from 4chan, it's inevitable to turn into a clusterfuck.
Zhora · 2017-04-11 13:21
>>112 I share >>149's concern. It's a nice idea, but I'm not sure about the amount of posting it'd get. I also agree with >>144, this is perhaps not the best time to create entirely new boards. Resurrecting or consolidating old ones where there is a proven demand, fine.
Rick Deckard · 2017-04-11 13:24
i only want one thing for christmas and that's the chiptune lain theme 404 page back again, sometimes id 404 just to leave it playing
Bob Arctor · 2017-04-11 13:26
>>168 Also this. The body is too short.
Zhora · 2017-04-11 13:27
I second the thing about the 404 site. is there a backup of it?
Lady 3Jane.. · 2017-04-11 13:28
>>174 It's a gif with an MP3 playing, dude.
Hiro Protagonist · 2017-04-11 13:29
* Bring back the /cyb/ (with privacy talk, /sec/, /tech/ and /λ/ inside, because where else do I discuss hardware-software solution for /sec/?), restore /feels/ and /lit/. * Kill the dead whales. * Change the engine to something written in a modern language, e.g. https://github.com/bakape/meguca, see https://meguca.org/. * Add Tor and I2P addresses. Read-only is fine. Allow posting without images as on 8ch => good. Spoiler and premoderate posts with images => awesome.
Terzibashjian · 2017-04-11 13:29
>>168 >>176 >>174 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tbxNYqzJLU
Turner · 2017-04-11 13:30
/cyb/ could be an unbrella board for /cult/, /sec/, /tech/ and maybe /sci/. If any of these subjects takes too much space, then they get a separate board. I agree with the idea that we should shrink the boards, and only increase based on necessity.
Turner · 2017-04-11 13:34
>>179 thankyou kind soul (mind you in hindsight I could have just fuarking googled it) best comment on that 'Sounds like late night, computer-aided suicidal thoughts. Amazing.'
Unknown · 2017-04-11 13:34
>>177 >merge /cyb/ and /λ/ What? That's crazy. /λ/ has a large amount of discussion, certainly enough for a dedicated board. >use meguca A liveboard is a fairly large culture shift from an imageboard. Admittedly, perhaps the best time for such a change is immediately after the site gets nuked, but I don't really see it happening.
Netrunner · 2017-04-11 13:36
>>158 I second this. The last thing this site needs is a political board. Again: Not only it has nothing to do with the site itself, but those are always a complete mess full of brewing soykaf.
Nell · 2017-04-11 13:40
>bring /cyb/ back If the mods bring /cyb/ back, in a couple of days a lot of lainons will start to expulse thing they don't think are "cyber" and will be a beachhead for the polacks and the /leftypol/ Also, maybe we can dive /tech/ in /hard/ and /soft/
Tank · 2017-04-11 13:40
bring /lain/ back, i like the hidden boards
Lady 3Jane.. · 2017-04-11 13:40
>>177 >modern language How old or new something is does not affect how good it is. Those are two independent variables.
Case · 2017-04-11 13:44
>>186 >A liveboard is a fairly large culture shift from an imageboard. I'm not sure what the difference is, could you explain?
Dujour · 2017-04-11 13:47
>>194 Because you see posts as they are being written, and can even respond to posts started after your own, it's much more of an interactive discussion. It's better for short posts, but I think it's worse for long ones, as there's little opportunity to proofread and edit before others respond.
Arisu Mizuki · 2017-04-11 13:49
>>186 Yes and yes. But. I used /mega/ for browsing 95% percent of the time and 4% of /random/, bookmarking (and sometimes saving) threads I participated in. Which meant lainchan was just a huge /cyb/ board for me. Actual URLs didn't matter. And that was awesome.
Drifter · 2017-04-11 13:49
>>195 Why would you want that? May as well just use XMPP group chats instead.
The Plague · 2017-04-11 13:52
>>195 Seems a bit gimmicky, though it could be nice to have some kind of mix. Does meguca allow you to disable any of the live features? If so I could see there being one or two live boards as part of lainchan.
Neuromancer · 2017-04-11 13:52
>>195 Kek, I never even noticed that, because I never had JS on. I like megucas for >>196 reasons. >>177-lain
Struggled · 2017-04-11 14:10
What the hell did happen? Why is everything down?
Jens Hansen · 2017-04-11 14:14
>>205 Kalyx had a seizure and wiped the server clean. The rest is history. Seriously though, just read some of the above posts and you will find out about most of what has happened over the past 24 hours.
Wenden · 2017-04-11 14:24
Keep /sec/ /lam/ /cult/ and /tech/ Hide /art/ /diy/ /cyb/ /lit/ /art/ and /layer/ Remove /weeb/ And it would be great to make another (and improve) a "wargame" to find secret boards
Yuki Nagato · 2017-04-11 14:27
>>214 >remove /weeb/ So remove /zzz/, /drg/, /civ/ and /feels/. Also the cult is redundant.
Unknown · 2017-04-11 14:28
Reinstate /art/ and I promise to draw user
Netrunner · 2017-04-11 14:29
>>218 >draw user d r a w f a g
The Phantom Phreak · 2017-04-11 14:44
Before anything, we should give focus to tech section of site.
Shogun · 2017-04-11 14:45
>>81 /tech/ /sec/ /lambda/ and eventually /cyb/ are definitely a must
Jean Dupont · 2017-04-11 14:46
/lam/ needs to be brought back.
Agent Richard Gill · 2017-04-11 14:47
>>229 Someone should focus on making daily backups of the entire site, eh eh
Debbie Charteris · 2017-04-11 14:49
>>232 Lainon, the admin did backups but leave on same virtual HDD that site.
Nell · 2017-04-11 14:50
>I am also looking for people to help to moderate, administer and janitor the site and services, because whilst I can continue to do it alone, it is much less fun that way. Where can I apply?
Nguoi La · 2017-04-11 14:52
>>233 >He backed them up but did not actually "back them up" anywhere.
Pris · 2017-04-11 14:54
>>233 This is not a backup then.
Mario Rossi · 2017-04-11 14:54
I think starting small and growing is the best path. Perhaps starting with a very encompassing /tech/ board, /lam/ for more exclusively programming, a /cult/ board, and maybe an /r/ for everything else, which could also hold more /feels/ type posts.
Bobby Newmark · 2017-04-11 15:03
>>239 What Mario said. But also a hidden /lain/, and /archive/ to keep the threads that contain enough knowledge or information to be worth it.
Just another Random Lainon · 2017-04-11 15:08
I need the qt glasses thread back please.
Tequila · 2017-04-11 15:09
>>239 >>241 backing up these
Tequila · 2017-04-11 15:09
>>81 /lam/ is most important, keep it. The dedicated security board is also at the core. /tech/ is also ok. Maybe a /unix/ instead? Maybe /cyb/. PLEASE, no political board, we should keep "political" tied to technology (net-politics and security stuff, which cyb or sec are for), everything else just pulls in the 4chans, which lower overall quality.
Hououin Kyouma · 2017-04-11 15:10
I don't know how hard this would be to implement, but I think i have a solution for the politics issue. It's inevitable that some discussions relating to tech, privacy, security will occasionally breech into political conversation because many threats to privacy and security are political actors, and the people who write software, build hardware, create networks, etc. have their own philosophies and affiliations which at times must be taken into consideration. What if we created a board where new threads can't be created, and any thread which becomes too politically charged gets moved there instead of being locked. This would allow for discussion of political or borderline political aspects of tech/sec/cyb topics and keep politically charged threads from pushing other threads off the first page, but would (hopefully) not create a target for the roving propagandists plaguing the web today. Also, don't back up your soykaf to the same machine it runs on. Holy fuarrrk.
The Plague · 2017-04-11 15:10
>>241 >>243 Agreed up these!
Case · 2017-04-11 15:11
Documents I downloaded from programming books sharing thread. I've tried to upload them here but experienced some timeouts. https://mega.nz/#F!KdUUDLzD!6EC7jtFzCPdlyPIwkyjgwQ
Case · 2017-04-11 15:14
>>248 Thank you, I always planned to download them, but never did it.
Just another Random Lainon · 2017-04-11 15:15
@Appleman1234, I think removing the word-list for censured words wouldn't be too bad >>234 Prolly on IRC
Agent Smith · 2017-04-11 15:15
Brig /drug back. A philosophic board for daily banter / bouncing ideas off lains. Call it /coffee as in turn of the century enlightenment when people meet at coffee shops to chst
Random · 2017-04-11 15:15
>>248 https://mega.nz/#F!yRVgCZwa!X2dBn1YuOd4ureIxjM-mZg!bFtGSQ7A there's also this with cybsec/pentesting/programming stuff, but i'm not sure if i saved it from here
Nobody important · 2017-04-11 15:15
>>246 There shouldn't be any compromise on politics. Politics ruins communities.
Koos van der Merwe · 2017-04-11 15:17
>>248 >>252 Do you have anything about Genetic Algorithms?
Unnamed · 2017-04-11 15:17
>>244 Politics can never be segregated from people. Open source gov is the future. If you aren't writing a political manifesto in code, ur doing it wrong
Bob Arctor · 2017-04-11 15:18
>>253 Lainchan has always been an anarchist site.
Drifter · 2017-04-11 15:19
>>246 It's a decent idea but I feel such a board would result in people intentionally creating threads they know will slide into a political discussion that they want to start on the quarantine board. I really think zero tolerance is the only way to go with politics here, otherwise it attracts people who are only interested in stirring politics soykafstorms as well as other undesirables.
Leto Atreides I · 2017-04-11 15:19
/lambda/ and /tech/ were kind of neat.
Postcyberpunk · 2017-04-11 15:20
>>110 I usually browsed only /mega/, but what you said was /drg/ for me. Never done drugs before, but I have been considering it, and browsing the board was a great way to learn more. Also, glad that my theme and name settings have been saved.
Emmanuel · 2017-04-11 15:22
>>99 >>103 >>156 Free for all political soykaf fest, /coffee
Ivan Horvat · 2017-04-11 15:24
Like some have mentioned earlier in this thread, we should set up some sort of ipfs board, or at least a dedicated thread, so we can share our hash links in a more organised way. That way we have both a more permanent decentralised way of backing up and storing any knowledge we might want to share, as well as a more permanent (as in storage, not in usage) alternative to Volafile.
Leto Atreides I · 2017-04-11 15:34
>>256 I blame kalyx for this. Why you can't use your bunker?
Erik Johansson · 2017-04-11 15:35
>>257 What if the board wasn't browsable, so you could only view a thread with a direct link to it. Or maybe instead of a board at all just hide the thread (displaying only a link to it) and anchor it. lainchan is slow enough that it should take a whie before it 404s, plenty of time to have the discussion. >>255 I'm picturing a future where the world's governments all use the same political kernel a handful of legal libraries, but then war breaks out over which compiler nations should use. Smash the stack, gcc war now!
Zero Cool · 2017-04-11 15:37
We could have a generals board (simple questions threads for other boards excluded) where you could stick /lay/, the /tpg/ thread, ipfs hash sharing thread, or anything that isn't as broad as e.g. /lam/
Morpheus · 2017-04-11 15:41
>>252 >>248 Started a separate thread for archives/old resources so that people who are looking for things don't have sift through the discussion to find it. >>268
Nobody special · 2017-04-11 15:43
>>264 For what? Kalyx tried getting rid of the anarchos, but lainchan in spirit has always been closer to the early anarchist hackers than this lame synthwave retrofuturism that goes for cyberpunk these days.
Netrunner · 2017-04-11 15:46
Throwing in my vote for lam, tech, diy and some kind of cyb-ish board. And bring back tay!
Trinity · 2017-04-11 15:47
we need /boardsofcanada/ .
Sabo Engle · 2017-04-11 15:49
Please never mix /art/ and /weeb/ again. merging arts and crafts would have been a better choice back in the day. Otherwise i think the board lineup was okay. Maybe add some more dank language enhancers. And please start doing offsite backups.
Miho Iwakura · 2017-04-11 15:49
My worthless opinion: - bring back /cyb/, /w/. make /w/ hidden if needed - keep /diy/, /drg/ - introduce /ipfs/. IPFS has become very reliable and useful for me. If lains share things via IPFS hashes it will reduce load on the server, since ideally people then wouldn't constantly be uploading PDFs.
Cowboy · 2017-04-11 15:50
>>270 >Kalyx tried getting rid of the anarchos Nice joke. >the early anarchist hackers Most of 80/90 hackers(crackers) are more egocentric attwhores more anything and the hackers(programmers) aren't glitterboys like /leftypol/ and his power trips like.
Arisu Mizuki · 2017-04-11 15:52
>/cyb/ /cyb/ never works fine. Was a insider trade in the best scenario.
Unsigned · 2017-04-11 15:54
>>277 How new are you? Kalyx tried banning anarchist threads in the early days. And it had nothing to do with /leftypol/, I'm not even sure if it existed back then.
Nanashi No Gombe · 2017-04-11 15:55
I wouldn't add any new boards at all. Any additional board you could come up with would just be empty (just look at how much was going on over at /sci/). An /ipfs/ board is an especially dumb idea. If you want to have IPFS on lainchan, why not just add a ipfs hash field to the post form on every board?
Dozer · 2017-04-11 15:56
>>214 >/layer/ /layer/ is supposed to be out in the open to create interest in DDT, hiding it is ridiculous and counter to the board's purpose. >>246 No. /civ/ showed that political discussion has no place on sites not dedicated to political discussion with how people act today.
Bobby Newmark · 2017-04-11 15:58
>>281 The only thing /civ/ showed us is that nazis have no place on the internet.
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2017-04-11 15:59
>>280 > ipfs hash field yes, this.
Morpheus · 2017-04-11 16:03
>>280 >why not just add a ipfs hash field to the post form on every board? This. Having the option to universally tag posts with hashes would encourage more site wide use of the ipfs system much more than a board would. That way we could have a system similar to the way we shared PDFs: through posts and dedicated threads. I wouldn't mind a /f/ style ipfs board though, taking all the ipfs hashes posted around the site and putting them in an easy to browse location.
Morpheus · 2017-04-11 16:03
We should make a board dedicated only to filesharing, like IPFS and alike decentralized networks, torrents and other files, material request and data analysis called /data/
Gyula Kovacs · 2017-04-11 16:07
>>287 For me this look a good idea. Like the 4/t/ or old 4/rs/.
Gyula Kovacs · 2017-04-11 16:11
I'd like to have a board for helping each other with social situations or anything at all. Something like /feels/ just with the target not to cry about your life, but help each other out of the mess. This can also be helpful for any questions at all. Let's call it "Lain helps Lain", "Lain for Lain" /l4l/ or something similar.
Emmanuel · 2017-04-11 16:13
>>287 THIS THIS THIS ...please
Bobby Newmark · 2017-04-11 16:13
Will the Lainchan-IRC-network return? I really liked it and it was more comfy than freenode.
Chani · 2017-04-11 16:15
>>292 Applefam is working on it as we speak.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2017-04-11 16:18
Is IPFS still a thing? I was active in the lainnet (cjdns-based mesh-net) a long time ago and it was somewhat hyped. Is somebody interested to reanimating it?
fsociety · 2017-04-11 16:18
Please do not believe the children that say they want and will do serious, fact and argument based rational political discussion. They just want your candy; send them back to facebook! Please decide firmly whether there will be an off-topic board (/r/) or not; if there will be, make it prominently stand out, and never ever let anyone wage slave you into removing/adding it. Take Lain seriously, you can't just have a board with her name and lock the pilgrims out.
Koos van der Merwe · 2017-04-11 16:18
>>287 we had this before. It was /file/ and not many people posted in there very often. >>81 I'd like to request my mod/admin account back, i tried to log in and view internal mail, but the account doesn't seem to exist. I'm also curious about this question >>292
Anonymous · 2017-04-11 16:19
proposing /cyb/ /lam/ /tech/ /sci/ /drg/ /lit/ /zzz/ /cult/ /w/ /rpg/ BRING back /cyb/ and define it's purpose as the discussion of cyberpunk culture and living the /cyb/ life (however people take that). CONTAIN japan in /w/, CONTAIN games in /rpg/, CONTAIN other culture (excluding cyberpunk) in /cult/. KEEP /mega/ please, it's the best way to casually digest lainchan. if /sec/ and /tech/ are going to co-exist then there needs to be a definite separation between cyberspace security and meatspace/opsec. BAN politics. politics tore this place apart the first time in september and it's never been the same since. there used to be feminist, anarchist generals in /cyb/ and after the nazi spammer the novelty of that has gone, just full of nazis, pls no bashie libtards, anclaps and a tiny lot of marxists just like every other chan. has cyberpunk got a political aspect? it's up for interpretation, so its easier just to stop any bikeshedding from occuring in the first place. all politics board eventually become polarised, so if you want to talk about untermenschen and the jews, fine, go to the board that shan't be named or anywhere else you usually go to soykaf up with racism, if you want to be a commie or a smashie, fine, go to /leftypol/. /drg/ /lit/ and /zzz/ have been there since the beginning i think, it's only right that they stay. if /r/ can't be moderated to keep it dedicated to quality posts and discussion then it should go. if you want a file board go to the volafile room. >>273 this.
Technician · 2017-04-11 16:28
>>290 could just call it /help/
Cowboy · 2017-04-11 16:28
My 2 mBtc on politics: Lainchan should be an apolitical or politically neutral place to discuss things. It must be said though, that Lainchan always had a (post-left) anarchist spirit. Not necessarily in the sense of anarchist theory, but practically in the sense that we distrust authority, be it megacorps or governments.
Unknown · 2017-04-11 16:31
>>112 I would assume this board would be similar to 8ch's psychopolitics board /32/ I'm into Discordianism and culturejamming is a fun thing to take part in. >>85 Bring back /civ/ If the mods want good, clean, and quality oc they should contribute and encourage it just as much as users. Either anon posting or namefagging. >>87 >>88 >>99 Also these >>97 Agree on a /feels/ board so we can contain it. I recommend hiding it from the boardlist so that, like a girl wearing foundation, we can cover our blemishes. If someone sadposts on /cyb/ or whatever we can kindly tell them to get back to >>>/feels/ until users catch on, after awhile just delete the sadposts unless they relate to a thread's topic in some meaningful way. Ofc this a case by case basis. >>123 We shouldn't keep /cult/ just merge it into /cyb/ along with tech, and please reinstate /art/ as a separate board. If enough posts on /cyb/ relate to animus reinstate /w/ otherwise it's uneeded. Unlike /feels/ it should be on the boardlist because anime is an essential part of chan culture that dates back to some fifteen year old alpha-virgin loser named Christopher "Moot" Columbus discovering 2chan and quickly raping and pillaging their site for his own sick perverted purposes. ummm Oh an >>115 fuarrrk you cultural marxist wage slave trying to c|_|ck us of Lainchan's pure chan culture and idioms. Go back to halfchan Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!
Nobody special · 2017-04-11 16:34
I hope there aren't hidden boards again.
Pulse · 2017-04-11 16:36
>>305 I meant don't bring back /civ/ That's a pretty obvious thing to do
Wintermute · 2017-04-11 16:36
>>307 Maybe one or five new hidden boards...
Mr. Sparkle · 2017-04-11 16:38
Keep politics the fuarrrk away from this place. No matter where on the political (or other) spectrum soykaf that ends up here lies, it will turn into fuarrrking ass cancer that will spread it's soykaf-stained corruption across the site. A swift return of the IRC server would be nice. It was nice and comfy having a lain specific server, and at this point might be a good thing to get back up just to continue the discussion about the site in a much more live format (for some reason I could imagine nonfat-soykaf drinkers from other chans joining the freenode discussion as more likely than them joining one on the lain server). The idea of some sort of split between meatspace cyb and cyb over the wired seems like a good idea. Maybe /meat and /wired would work?
Sabo Engle · 2017-04-11 16:39
lainchan needs an /sp/. up the reds
Lain Iwakura · 2017-04-11 16:39
>>307 Be quiet, hidden boards are so nice, like a dusty bar in some remote place of a building where old friends can meet.
Masami Eiri · 2017-04-11 16:41
Make onion access a top priority and Lainchan's clearnet access read-only.
J.C. Denton · 2017-04-11 16:41
>>307 As a newcomer to this site, I definitely took some notes from this thread what could become new old hidden boards. >>311 Soon… [18:41] * Connect retry #431 irc.lainchan.org (+6697)
Bob Arctor · 2017-04-11 16:44
Oh and try to get Lainchan's IRC server be linked into one of the greater IRC networks, e.g. EFnet.
H.R. Giger · 2017-04-11 16:45
>>316 very bad idea right here
Agent Smith · 2017-04-11 16:45
>>81 /tech/ obviously and less board splitting please. I'm also not a fan of hidden boards, the traffic here is slow in the first place and le epic secret clubhouses are cringy to be frank. >>90 >/ipfs, /foss, /net That's really splitting up the small userbase. Considering the small userbase these would be fine as generals under /tech/. >/leftypol Isn't it ironic how leftists want to be divided from others? You know, considering the anti-border, anti-wall, HWNDU stance. If there is a board for discussing politics it should be one for everybody. Especially considering the small userbase there should be minimal board splitting. >>100 >Political boards a require a huge amount of effort and time to moderate. Translation: >everyone who disagrees with me is a troll Honestly it just sounds like you're keen on silencing those who disagree with you. >>144 >I think reducing the amount of boards and merging boards similar ones would be smartest idea right now as activity on boards is very low Smart >>311 You can leave politics alone but politics won't leave you alone.
Elliot Alderson · 2017-04-11 16:45
>>307 >>310 >>313 Bring back /tay/ and /lain/ I want the true queens of Lainchan to take their seats on the throne. Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA! >>311 Yes, please make sure there isn't a political board. We can have small political discussion as it relates to world events and ideas ONLY if they relate to Cyberpunk >>314 Please don't do this, you'll kill part of the board population because of laziness, being inept, or just because people don't feel like using Tor. Making the site accessible as an onion site is a good thing, but if you allow people to post from Tor lest you may get a flood of CP and just useless spam. Maybe make a hidden board /onion/ for more dubious topics, I dunno though, it might accidentally become Lainchan's /i/ or /baphomet/ which may or may not be a good thing depending on who you ask. Personally, I think it's time that Lainchan bands together and takes down any enemies of the site, but I can understand if you wouldn't want this because of the legal implications, heart-ache, and the potential for the site to get DDOSd, hacked, or black-listed like 8chan. Boy, chan politics have always been so much fun to circle-jerk about.
Nameless · 2017-04-11 16:46
>>314 Actually laughed at that. 11/10 idea lainon.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2017-04-11 16:47
I agree with the zero tolerance on politics. normalfagsじゃない
Armitage · 2017-04-11 16:48
>>305 Can this retard have the first ban of the new site?
The Phantom Phreak · 2017-04-11 16:48
>>320 I got #1 on /lain/ while you made that post! No /tay/ though, that was a bad meme.
Hagbard Celine · 2017-04-11 16:49
"I TOOK A SHORT NAP AND WHAT DID YOU PEOPLE DO?!" was my first question. With that answered, I guess I'll go with bringing back /λ/, /lit/ and /feels/.
Arisu Mizuki · 2017-04-11 16:49
>>323 Did he hurt your feelings?
Splicer · 2017-04-11 16:50
>>326 >cultural marxist wage slave trying to c|_|ck I think we can all agree that it's the perfect example of the quality of posts we don't want on this site.
Boris Grishenko · 2017-04-11 16:52
>>81 I want my /lit/ back. What's going on Appleman?
Cereal Killer · 2017-04-11 16:53
>>328 We did it reddit!
Bob Arctor · 2017-04-11 16:53
>>328 Why is joking not allowed, are all of you this dense?
The Fin · 2017-04-11 16:54
I really hope we'll be able to recover the old banners. Some of them were excellent. If not, let's just get a new banner thread going! I have a couple new ones I'd like to submit.
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2017-04-11 16:54
>>331 >>332 Go back to /p‌ol/ nonfat-soykaf drinkers
Cypher · 2017-04-11 16:55
>>331 You and your commie "brother" are pure cancer.
Morpheus · 2017-04-11 16:57
Because nobody really said it: This side needs good backups the next time. And good backups aren't stored only on the same machine. I'd even spend some gigs (or a TiB if it should be necessary for any reasons) offline storage in my personal cloud™.
Judge Fang · 2017-04-11 16:58
requesting /ago/, the Agora board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agorism#Ideology lainons post by city to advertise local trading, offer services, housing, bitcoin exchange, warez and file sharing, programming tutoring or contracts, organize distributed computing, ridesharing, political activism, couchsurfing etc it'd be like a chan craigslist people could build cred and social networks through
Donna Hawthorne · 2017-04-11 16:58
how about a textboard? It doesn't really need a theme, i think or should it?
Anonymous · 2017-04-11 16:58
>>338 NO politics saoirse eireann
fsociety · 2017-04-11 16:59
>>332 >makes a /p0l/ tier soykafpost that wouldn't be out of place on one of the various /p0l/ boards >expecting people to think this is funny Also, ironic brewing soykaf is still brewing soykaf.
Drifter · 2017-04-11 16:59
>>342 Without a theme it'll just become /sjis/, /prog/, or /vip/ This post was VIP quality!
Lisp · 2017-04-11 16:59
This is Lisp. I can't access the IRC server, as there probably isn't one now. Do please reinstate my credentials, Appleman1234.
Nanashi No Gombe · 2017-04-11 16:59
>>336 It's ironic how you're the ones with the mainstream ideology and the ones pushing for a global surveillance state and you don't even realize it. You think you're so cool and you want to separate yourselves and silence everyone who disagrees with you.
Apoc · 2017-04-11 17:00
>>343 I agree. We keep the polacks and leftys away.
Armitage · 2017-04-11 17:00
>>342 A traditional textboard would be nice. Why don't have a sway way to post for it? Perhaps just a raw TCP-socket (usable with netcat, telnet) or IRC-based? By the way: An one-sided IRC-gateway would be nice which posts in a separate channel if there's a new post on the board.
Lady Jessica · 2017-04-11 17:00
>>347 Hey lisp. It's kashire. He has to reinstate mine with a random password, so you may need to email him or message him on the freenode irc channel.
Fred Nurk · 2017-04-11 17:01
>>343 Thanks for posting. Everyone cares who you are.
Yet Another Lainon · 2017-04-11 17:01
>>350 I approve of this idea.
Technician · 2017-04-11 17:02
>>318 >Honestly it just sounds like you're keen on silencing those who disagree with you. Yes, dealing with posts that are full of personal attacks and bait is silencing people. It would be nice if actual political discussion on an imageboard were possible, but people don't want to discuss; they want to insider trade and insult people who disagree with them. As evidence, lainchan has had two politics boards over its time and both have become cesspools which were eventually deleted, because nobody wanted to put in the huge amount of effort required to moderate them. >>341 lainchan seems too geographically diverse for that to really work. There were a few location threads about big cities in the old /r/ and /cult/, which worked pretty well. I'm not sure a board would have many more threads.
Yuki Nagato · 2017-04-11 17:02
Politics outside of cyb-related stuff is a bad idea. If people want to post about politics, they have 4chan or 8chan. And I like politics, but I just don't see what lainchan could offer really. Anyway, requesting /feels/.
SHODAN · 2017-04-11 17:02
>>352 very sorry mr anon looooooong
Nobody special · 2017-04-11 17:02
>>345 >makes a /p0l/ tier soykafpost that wouldn't be out of place on one of the various /p0l/ boards You wouldn't be out of place on Tumblr. Epic leetspeek by the way.
Case · 2017-04-11 17:02
>>350 This sounds great!
Armitage · 2017-04-11 17:03
>>359 it's filtered you absolute nincompoop
Yuki Nagato · 2017-04-11 17:03
>>354 >>341 lainchanners also travel a lot, I personally would find a lot of utility in an agora board the reason those location threads didn't proliferate is because they weren't concentrated on a single board and didn't have economic incentives
Ivan Petrov · 2017-04-11 17:05
>>357 >Anyway, requesting /feels/. If people want to post about feels, they have /r9k/ on 4chan or 8chan.
Nobody special · 2017-04-11 17:06
>>364 not the same. /feels/ is a safe place to vent your feelings and seek solace in others. /r9k/ is rampant virginposting, traps and muhsoggyknee.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 17:07
>>351 I can't access Freenode over Tor easily. I'll wait until the Lainchan IRC is reinstated, perhaps. Of course, my machine lost power and so the pages I would've liked to save had I been aware are no longer in cache. I'd almost had a premonition that I should save them, but I won't go into detail. This is terrible. I can't write that I ever expected anything better from Kalyx. Anyways, I've an excellent memory of the site and so can help reinstate some of it, such as the stickies. Once I'm made a staff member again, I'll want /λ/ and /sec/ to be returned so that the first post in each can be the new sticky and whatnot.
Lord Nikon · 2017-04-11 17:07
>>311 I second this. We got rid of /civ/ for a reason. As for new boards, maybe something like /hobby/ so we don't have to put threads like tabletop gaming or sports in /r/.
Lady Jessica · 2017-04-11 17:09
>>368 Is there actually enough demand for threads like that to justify their own boards? /r/ was already pretty slow.
Just another Random Lainon · 2017-04-11 17:09
What about /nothing For nothing at all.
John Doe · 2017-04-11 17:10
>>366 You could use the dreamchan.
Wintermute · 2017-04-11 17:10
>>352 just like to point out that i was acting completely within the acceptable bounds of tripglitterboyry, i wasn't using it for identity, i didn't use a name, i wasn't going to use that trip for any other thread, only to make it clear which poster i am in this thread. that's all. you can point to your ebin copypasta and realise thats exactly how it says you should use tripcodes.
Unnamed · 2017-04-11 17:12
>>367 Alright man. I'm sure appleman will see this, he's working on the Lainchan IRC right now so that should be up pretty soon.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 17:13
>>375 Barrucadu has a backup only a few months old, so perhaps we should restore from that.
Neo · 2017-04-11 17:14
Please keep the radio. A easy way to submit music would be nice.
Technician · 2017-04-11 17:15
>>81 Here are my three wishes Applesenpai 1: /cyb/ 2: /lit/ 3: Don't listen to soykafty ideas in this thread
Nguoi La · 2017-04-11 17:16
>>382 Seconding this post right here.
barrucadu · 2017-04-11 17:16
>>379 We established that my backup is actually possibly older than that. Also it's just the database, no files. The file modification time is September the 10th, but I can't remember when it was actually taken. When we looked for a thread the other day it was missing posts that had happened by that date.
Lady Jessica · 2017-04-11 17:20
-/lam/ and /sci/ should be merged into /lam/ -merge /tech/ and /sec/ into /cyb/ for a "general" board -/lit/ is a holy relic that cannot be touched -everything else should be discarded.
Bobby Newmark · 2017-04-11 17:22
>>384 I suppose a clean slate may be desirable, perhaps. It's not as if we've much choice at this point.
Eldon Tyrell · 2017-04-11 17:22
>>387 >/lam/ and /sci/ should merge no, the programming board is big enough to be seperate >merge /tech/ and /sec/ into /cyb/ /cyb/ is not /tech/ >everything else should be discarded go fuarrrk yourself
Ender · 2017-04-11 17:22
>>387 oh, and SUPPORT COMMUNITY PROJECTS. The whole reason lainchan is a good community is because people are willing to set up cool stuff outside of the original imageboard, and as we saw when you have everything hosted on one server it really disrupts everything.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 17:23
>>389 In addition to this, the naming of some of the boards may finally be corrected. The /cult/ name wasn't necessarily bad, but /feels/ was a horribly drab name.
Agent Jones · 2017-04-11 17:23
>>391 see >>341 >>388
Lisp · 2017-04-11 17:26
As another note, I never did care for /lam/ being the abbreviation of sorts. The alternative name should be /lambda/ this time.
Jet Black · 2017-04-11 17:26
Only a suggestion, nothing more; [Mega/Q&A/Random] [Sec/Prog/Net/DIY] [Art/Zzz/Lit/Weeb] [Radio/IRC/Stream] [News/Rules/FAQ/Donation] [Github/Twitter/Volafile] That would make sense to me
Ivan Horvat · 2017-04-11 17:27
Defensive cybersecurity is always a step behind offensive. Please don't limit the discussion on cybersecurity to defensive only like /sec/ did. The information users gather here is separate from the user's actions and the board doesn't need to take responsibility of them. Make a rule against organizing raids and the like and a rule against exposing security issues on other services and you should be fine. end this stupid random name bullsoykaf and set a common default name. An anonymous website needs to stay apolitical simply for how easy such a community is to poison with external ideology. General consumer electronics boards tend to grow terrible. If /tech/ is reopened, please make sure the moderation team is ready to tackle the hordes of cluelessness that can render any forum useless. An aggregator board with the ages appearing on top will speed up active threads and slow down the rest of the site. Think carefully before such a thing is implemented. This is the reason why /random/ existed, to potentially push activity elsewhere. A filesharing board would be useful. You can lump all of IPFS, torrents, mega and other DDL, USENET and so on on one board. Lainchan even has it's own torrent tracker, there seems to be interest. >>177 >use meguca You must be joking, right? You wouldn't replace an imageboard with an irc channel. Have you ever used a liveboard for any period of time? An additional, topicless liveboard would be cool but entirely useless. Not a priority if not intended as an irc replacement. >>190 >dive /tech/ in /hard/ and /soft/ Doing this could potentially relieve the inevitable terribleness of general consumer electronics boards. However, the two are very connected and the separating line will be blurry when discussing more whole systems. Not in terms of what is software and what is hardware, but in what's related enough to fit the discussion at hand. >>205 >appleman wants control panel access >kalyx told apple darkengine has the password >appleman tries to reset password >password reset email goes to kalyx >kalyx goes to town >>214 I want a wargame too. But, it's not high priority. >>384 Upload it somewhere for archiving's sake. Unless it contains things like IP addresses and the like, in which case consider removing those. >>387 Give a good explanation on how those boards you propose to be merged are related in any way. They mostly aren't, and if there's overlap it makes sense to draw them apart to not let one drown out the other. A simple way to satisfy those who want to merge boards is to let users build aggregator boards where they can pick the boards they want to see together.
Case · 2017-04-11 17:27
>>90 Any /pol board here is /leftypol/. I would say that /lam/, /tech/, and /sec/ should remain in some form or another. Whether that means keeping /lam/ and then rolling /tech/ and /sec/ into one board, up to moderation to decide. /r/ should exist so that people have a place to go. Other boards should be created as needed should enough recurring threads appear on /r/, as was the case of 4chan's boardlist growth fwiw. It's a chance to start anew and whatnot. tl;dr /lam/, /cyb/, /r/, /mega/, /q/.
Mitnick · 2017-04-11 17:29
>>397 >subreddits no thanks, traditional chan board names are more /cyb/
SHODAN · 2017-04-11 17:30
>>397 >[Sec/Prog/Net/DIY] >no /tech/ Is better create /hard/, /soft/, /prog/ and /DIY/.
Fred Nurk · 2017-04-11 17:30
>>400 did you ever read /civ/ at all you absolute fuarrrking moron
Motoko Kusanagi · 2017-04-11 17:31
>>404 Yes, I was actually one of the fash posters. It was more a joke about the general viewpoint of the majority of the posters here. I mean, just look at the irc.
Unsigned · 2017-04-11 17:31
>>398 >end this stupid random name bullsoykaf and set a common default name for what purpose? but yes, I second a filesharing board
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2017-04-11 17:32
>>405 yeah you fuarrrking overran /civ/ and ruined the site. thanks.
Splicer · 2017-04-11 17:32
>>280 More language enhancers. More lain.
Chan Siu Ming · 2017-04-11 17:32
>>407 >but yes, I second a filesharing board Filesharing board is a GREAT idea, but no these random names are retarded.
Cutter · 2017-04-11 17:33
>>409 I posted in one or two threads, a post or two each. Thank you for scapegoating me personally. I'm sure that the infinite board splits didn't contribute to it (having /tech/, /sec/, /civ/, /lam/, /lit/, /drg/, /zzz/, /diy/, /rpg/, etc in a niche community).
John Doe · 2017-04-11 17:34
>>412 speaking collectively, sorry if you felt singled out like you usually do
Just another Random Lainon · 2017-04-11 17:35
>>414 This thread isn't for this... If you guys want to jerk each other around, do it in PMs on freenode.
Jean Dupont · 2017-04-11 17:36
>>414 I'm just hyperliteral. Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!
The Oracle · 2017-04-11 17:36
>>415 But freenode is a sekrit club full of damn IRA-loving commies
Lisp · 2017-04-11 17:36
On the bright side, that /zzz/ backup would still be useful, barrucadu, although it's arguable as to whether it should be restored, although almost every post ever made there from the beginning to the backup would be present.
Crash Override · 2017-04-11 17:37
I'd love to see a brewing soykaf-zero-tolerance-policy. Don't let Lainchan become the next {4,8,kraut}chan. Please.
Acid Burn · 2017-04-11 17:37
>>411 >these random names are retarded. I think it's a nice touch unique to this site, and it makes it possible to refer to posts in a more natural manner (at least in small/slow threads). I'd rather keep them, unless you can explain how they are actually detrimental, rather than just stupid.
Leto Atreides I · 2017-04-11 17:40
>>242 THIS SO MUCH. I was literally about to batch download all the pictures. I am angry. >>230 Also this.
Faye Valentine · 2017-04-11 17:40
>>407 I find the random names to be distracting when the name hasn't been modified and doesn't matter and then hide a name that's been explicitly set and deemed worthy of noting by the poster. A name not set gets noticed easier and a name set gets noticed less. That's the opposite to how names are supposed to work. Oh, they'll be useful if people start abusing names. I don't think people now do, though. >>421 I agree on them being useful in establishing site identity though. Maybe there's a better way for that...
The Fin · 2017-04-11 17:42
>>398 >General consumer electronics boards tend to grow terrible. If /tech/ is reopened, please make sure the moderation team is ready to tackle the hordes of cluelessness that can render any forum useless. I think we really could merge a lot of the more technology based boards, such as /tech/ and /sec/, in order to have a larger more diverse board. That way it would really be more of its own defined place. My only fear is that it would potentially break into a large myriad of generals.
Nell · 2017-04-11 17:46
>>400 I second this. Fewer boards is better.
Jean Dupont · 2017-04-11 17:53
>>81 Appleman1234 please grant my request for a /noided /x /NSA conspiracy board!!!
Jens Hansen · 2017-04-11 17:54
/drg/, combine /zzz/ and /feels/
Lisp · 2017-04-11 17:59
I believe /tech/ and /sec/ may be able to be merged, to some degree. Of course, this then begs the question of where topics that barely qualified as /tech/ material and certainly not /sec/ material, such as the desktop threads, go. Still, /tech/ seemed reasonably geared towards setting up environments, using and discussing programs, and whatnot, so perhaps a merger would be appropriate. One issue is that /tech/ was faster and threatens to drive the /sec/ material out. Perhaps if the board had more pages, perhaps fifteen, then this would be appropriate. Regardless, I suppose it's the most integral boards, /λ, /r/, and friends that should be returned first.
Lady Jessica · 2017-04-11 18:06
>>433 /tech + /diy would be ok
Hacker · 2017-04-11 18:11
>>431 heck no, /zzz/ would get buried by the sheer volume of posts that /feels/ produces
Jean Dupont · 2017-04-11 18:13
so much hatred for /tech/ from mental midgets
Mitnick · 2017-04-11 18:15
>>81 the whole "/cult/" thing, and erasing /art/ and keeping /lit/ when the former was much more active than the latter, was really annoying. was a fair amount of original art-ing going on there that just stopped as soon as the board was removed. not saying /lit/ shouldn't be a thing either, though; were people talking there, and it generally encouraged intelligent discussion. the /art/, /lit/, /cyb/ split did a much better job of covering the things people posted about and encouraging diversity. or at least keep /art/ separate from /cult/ or something. pls no /civ/ also >>190 that's fair, though, i guess >>302 huh, that's interesting. could work >>439 /tech/ was ok, i guess. had like that /diy/ thread and desktops, right? enough to make it worth being a thing on their own
Hong, Guil Dong · 2017-04-11 18:16
>>429 /noided/ or /nsa/ might be an interesting idea, it would solve a little of the politics-tech overlap issue as well. It seems silly that we can talk about how the NSA and CIA are spying on us, but if we start to discuss the actual officials involved, their greater motivations, backgrounds and their affiliations with other groups and companies then we need to shut up. It seems odd to want to talk about how fuarrrked we are but not about who is doing the fuarrrking. >>436 While a lot of /diy/ could fit into tech, it also had a fair amount of non-tech related content.
Jean Dupont · 2017-04-11 18:16
>>440 the best products of /cult/ and /civ/ could be combined here >>341 >>388
Y.T · 2017-04-11 18:18
>>442 how do you mean? literally nothing good came out of /civ/ ever, and mushing /art/ into /cult/ killed off all the art-ing, so mushing /cult/ into something else would kill even more
H.R. Giger · 2017-04-11 18:19
>>443 /ago/ would have a completely different aim, read those posts >>341 >>388
Nanashi No Gombe · 2017-04-11 18:19
>>440 /diy/ was a different fuarrrking board
Tequila · 2017-04-11 18:26
>>441 /diy community was slow and shared interest with /tech. I bet most lains on /tech visit /diy also, so let's make it the same place. Some threads might not be 100% electrical tech but it wouldn't be obtrusive. Unless it's a thread about storing cum.
Jean Dupont · 2017-04-11 18:27
>>424 Whatever boards you merge with /tech/, it'll be the place where all the people who just recently discovered lainchan and just recently discovered an interest in anything technology related will flock to with nothing else to post but questions no one wants to bother answering simply for it's name. This is why I'd want to keep more specific topics out of the generic /tech/ board. You know the state of /g/, the recent developments at 8/tech/ and can remember /tech/ here being unlisted for a short while for being so terrible. It's what I meant with >and if there's overlap it makes sense to draw them apart to not let one drown out the other. /tech/ will grow terrible again. It'll become generals and a thousand 'what distro should I use?' threads. It's not really the trash bin of the site, but in time it'll serve the purpose again. Also, consider the generals to be an attempt at creating a more dedicated space for a certain topic when a dedicated board isn't available. And in any case, why is everyone talking about combining boards? I don't think I've read of there being a need to. >>433 Consider /tech/ to be the /r/ of technology topics. Anything that doesn't have a dedicated board can go there. I suppose that the issue here, why people would combine the split boards back to /tech/, is that the posting speed didn't warrant more splitting and people haven't seen the practical benefits of more dedicated boards over general ones. /lam/ is basically a split of /tech/ too and everyone seems to agree that it should stay split. Then, it seems like /sec/ failed to gather a proper dedicated userbase because of how the no offensive attitude was so counterprouctive. It's like the board was an unwanted child or something, completely denied from reaching any potential. It was crippled, so it's no wonder people don't see a reason to keep it separate. >>436 /diy/ is too slow to survive at the hands of /tech/. Essentially, you'd kill /diy/ with this. Don't merge good things with fast things.
Drifter · 2017-04-11 18:43
Can we please have the old boards back? there is a thread I want to make on /tech/
Vasya Pupkin · 2017-04-11 18:50
merge /zzz/ and /drg/ please, both have to do with mind and ways to exploit the mind
Donna Hawthorne · 2017-04-11 18:55
>>451 No, discussing tech and other topics has become too problematic and difficult to moderate. Lainchan is now about discussing lainchan. Also acceptable is discussing the discussion of lainchan. Discussing the discussion of lainchan's discussion is too far out of scope though, and will be deleted.
Erik Johansson · 2017-04-11 18:58
>>456 Does lainchan allow upboats? If not, I'll just tip my anti-surveillance infrared hoodie, chummer.
Nell · 2017-04-11 19:03
Present day, present time! HAHAHAHAH
Lisp · 2017-04-11 19:05
>>448 >Consider /tech/ to be the /r/ of technology topics. Anything that doesn't have a dedicated board can go there. When revived, that should probably be made explicit. >I suppose that the issue here, why people would combine the split boards back to /tech/, is that the posting speed didn't warrant more splitting and people haven't seen the practical benefits of more dedicated boards over general ones. /lam/ is basically a split of /tech/ too and everyone seems to agree that it should stay split. I also agree with that. The only reason I suggested this as a possibility is because I'm the dedicated /λ/ and /sec/ staff and noticed a decent amount of threads would be made in /sec/ that would later be moved to /tech/ and whatnot. >Then, it seems like /sec/ failed to gather a proper dedicated userbase because of how the no offensive attitude was so counterprouctive. It's like the board was an unwanted child or something, completely denied from reaching any potential. It was crippled, so it's no wonder people don't see a reason to keep it separate. I'm not understanding this.
The Plague · 2017-04-11 19:07
>>81 Have you found someone to hold your hand who knows what they're doing? Because you should. This is your fault admin! And bring back /cyb/
Batou · 2017-04-11 19:07
Please bring back the rog board, It was one of the best thing on these site.
Bobby Newmark · 2017-04-11 19:14
less fuarrrking boards we have maybe 50 people left on this site. we don't need 300 boards
Acid Burn · 2017-04-11 19:17
>>471 >we have maybe 50 people left on this site because the boards suck, /tech/ was a crappy consumer board, the culture boards were useless, and lambda went from being a respectable programming board to being generic we need stuff like >>341
Turner · 2017-04-11 19:18
>>88 >I think the idea of setting up some sort of external, userbase-controlled/decentralized storage for collected collective knowledge is a good goal going forward This
HELIOS · 2017-04-11 19:20
>>88 >>474 > this place > knowledge All you people know is how to survive 10 years in a basement with nothing but cup noodles for sustenance and never seeing the sunlight once
Lisp · 2017-04-11 19:21
>>472 >the culture boards were useless There was good discussion concerning artwork, games, and other media in /cult/, so I don't understand. >lambda went from being a respectable programming board to being generic If you truly believe this, I'd like to know why. I took a great effort to keep /λ/ reasonably pristine.
Fred Nurk · 2017-04-11 19:21
>>475 You forgot ricing desktops.
Mentat · 2017-04-11 19:21
/drg/ and /lit/ were the only boards I frequently used, so I want those back. /zzz/ and /feels/ should also come back.
John Titor · 2017-04-11 19:25
>>463 Though I don't have a copy of it, I remember the /sec/ sticky reading that the board was about how to achieve security, implying that the board wasn't at all for the offensive part of cybersecurity. It seemed like the board was only for one half of the art, with the other half axed for whatever reason. With that, the limitation of discussion limited the usefulness of the split and now people see less of a reason for it to stay. Why was the board given such a premise? Was the discouragenemt of offensive security delibrate or did it just seem that way to me? I didn't get to post there much.
The Oracle · 2017-04-11 19:29
>>477 A /rice/-board could be unironically a good idea. Just ban all those ricing-threads for desktops, computers, dogs and soykaf to an own board. I would totally lurk there.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 19:34
>>479 >Though I don't have a copy of it, I remember the /sec/ sticky reading that the board was about how to achieve security, implying that the board wasn't at all for the offensive part of cybersecurity. I wrote several of the stickies and so recall them in detail. I suppose that it could be interpreted as that, yes. I suppose I'd thought most people simply didn't want to discuss offensive measures. When the /sec/ sticky is reinstated, I'll correct this for you and the others who felt this way. I'm lead to believe you may have been the individual having made the thread in old /q/ concerning this topic, but am not certain. You don't seem to recall the discussion there. >It seemed like the board was only for one half of the art, with the other half axed for whatever reason. >With that, the limitation of discussion limited the usefulness of the split and now people see less of a reason for it to stay. Considering the drug board, there's no reason to bar discussion of this. This was resolved in that /q/ thread as I said I saw no reason for the topic to be avoided. I merely suggested users be smart when discussing potentially illegal activities. As an example, I suggested that, rather than ``I stole this guy's emails. How should I get stuff to blackmail with?'', use ``Let's say I had an email archive. How would you search that for a general topic?'' and like techniques. I'll also point out that hacking and cracking tools were being distributed through /sec/ without worry. >Why was the board given such a premise? >Was the discouragenemt of offensive security delibrate or did it just seem that way to me? It was purely unintentional. >I didn't get to post there much. That's a shame. Make certain to post more when it's revived. On the topic of this destruction, the loss of nice discussions and dumps is regretful, but I believe we'll be able to create better boards now. The staff and community know more and we will create a better community from this. I have no doubt Lainchan will persist and thrive.
Hagbard Celine · 2017-04-11 19:36
>>480 Shunt them off to /r/ tbh.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 19:39
>>483 Most of the staff agreed that desktop threads and the like aren't suitably related to /tech/. Kalyx was the only one who disagreed. Perhaps it would be fun to spite Kalyx by doing so.
J.C. Denton · 2017-04-11 19:49
>>481 This sounds great all around. Now I want to see more of 'my waifu stole an email database' type of posting, it's cute. I don't remember the thread on /q/. To speak the truth, I've only been trying to return here recently, I kind of fell out somewhere during 2015 and haven't really seen much of what happened on this site between then and now. /sec/ wasn't around when my visits grew rare.
Debbie Charteris · 2017-04-11 19:50
When you bring back /λ/, /sci/ etc. this time please don't make a rule against posting anime.
Random · 2017-04-11 19:51
>>81 I know this may or may not work - but have you tried contacting the hosts?
Eldon Tyrell · 2017-04-11 19:51
+1 for a filesharing discussion board.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2017-04-11 19:56
How can i help in any way. i would perfer to help doing server side work but i am fine being a janitor or mod until i can do so.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 19:57
>>487 The rules say naught of anime. The rules only say that relevancy is enforced. If you must post anime, post Lain, which is always relevant here. I don't understand what your issue is.
Unsigned · 2017-04-11 20:07
>>492 He just wants to weeb around.
Sabo Engle · 2017-04-11 20:14
>>81 Does anyone know how long we should expect lainchan to be in its current state? While deciding on boards is very important to ensure the survival of this chan, keep in mind that while lainchan is like this we're likely to slowly lose users.
J.C. Denton · 2017-04-11 20:19
also, bring back the other theme's I need my fauux theme
puss · 2017-04-11 20:26
seconding >>94's question how do i apply to be a mod or janny
Unnamed · 2017-04-11 20:31
I've only been on lainchan for a few months and I've basically just stuck to /lam/. But it was a nice place. Please bring it back. Also, considering the very limited userbase here, merging the less active boards sounds productive. Merging just looking at semantic closeness, disregarding traffic, sounds destructive. Lastly, like I said, I have no idea how things were in /cyb/, but it seems really silly to me to ban the discussion of politics just because it fires people up. Conversations can be civil about any topic, it's just a matter of making the effort individually (not being troublemakers) and collectively (ostracizing troublemakers). Though, sure, sometimes you just have to cut your losses.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 20:36
>>507 The political discussions are difficult to moderate. Considering that Lainchan currently has little visible history for others new here to look upon, bringing a political board back first would create a false impression of what the site is.
Switch · 2017-04-11 20:46
>>513 What's the issue?
Meddler · 2017-04-11 20:50
>>354 it's possible that with more interesting boards like that, we can attract people of similar geographical communities
Lisp · 2017-04-11 20:51
>>519 Almost every time a comment in a political discussion is deleted, someone complains calling us Nazi/Communist/Anarchist/Fascist sympathizers or some other variation on the theme. If you don't see why it would be hard to moderate, imagine how moderating a religious discussion would go. Do you delete the posts that discuss killing homosexuals, witches, infidels, goyim, etc? Would you delete the Flying Spaghetti worshipers, the Scientologists, and the Subgenius followers as ``obvious soykaf spilling''? You can imagine why /civ/ was locked.
Neo · 2017-04-11 20:53
>>81 please no politics board, it will leak and draws infamy, unwanted attention from the wrong people
Random · 2017-04-11 20:56
>>507 What do you think of my idea >>400 ? Just tack on desktop threads belonging on /r/ and you have my standing on what to do.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 21:07
So, what's the estimated time remaining until the IRC server is back up?
Zhora · 2017-04-11 21:09
>>287 I agree with this motion.
Cat Mother · 2017-04-11 21:14
>>529 I don't really have enough information on traffic to be able to tell if it would mean losing people or significant amounts of content, sorry. I guess there would be a number of lains from /lit/, /feels/, /drugs/ (or however it was called) that would lose their dedicated space? Perhaps a /squishy/ board for all general talk of art, feelings, lifestyle and such would be useful.
Yet Another Lainon · 2017-04-11 21:18
>>524 >Would you delete the Flying Spaghetti worshipers, the Scientologists, and the Subgenius followers as ``obvious soykaf spilling''? As a subgenius, you could summarize the religion pretty accurately as spiritual brewing soykaf.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 21:19
>>541 That's exactly my point.
Nobody important · 2017-04-11 21:29
Please keep λ as well as: tech (general technology discussion), feels, desudesutalk, and maybe have one board for lit and cult. And please, PLEASE don't create a board for political discussion.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2017-04-11 21:36
>>81 Barton (LainWiki guy) here if I can help contact me. Also a suggestion: enforcing the pic related would make people posting about real things while visitors could more easily browse the index of posts and the catalog. Questionable however.
cunsion · 2017-04-11 21:42
It would be great to have a wargame into secret boards.
Crash Override · 2017-04-11 21:50
>>524 >Nazi/Communist/Anarchist/Fascist sympathizers And never sympathizers of Free Software.
Crash Override · 2017-04-11 21:52
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Chan Siu Ming · 2017-04-11 21:57
Things that are objectively ESSENTIAL: >/sec/ >/tech/ >/feels/ Things that imo we should have >/cyb/ >/lit/ >/cult/ >/music board/ Things that imo we shouldn't have: >/drug/ >/zzz/ >/p0l/ (just ban non-cyb p0litics full stop please) I think its important we reduce the number of boards. Lainchan had too many boards pre-Event, and its userbase was spread too thin. also remove spambot, its a fuarrrking mess
Pris · 2017-04-11 22:01
What would Lain think about a religion & spirituality related board ? It seems off topic for /cult/ or /feels/ to me and awesome discussions could emerge from it
Apoc · 2017-04-11 22:01
>>81 BRING BACK "CYBERPUNK IS DEAD"
Spike Spiegel · 2017-04-11 22:02
>>565 i think a general philosophy board would be better
Unsigned · 2017-04-11 22:04
/lam/ /tech/ (includes diy) /cult-art/ (includes cyb lain and lit) /sci/ /qr/ (questions and random) And we'll see in the future if we need more.
Agent Smith · 2017-04-11 22:05
Please - let mega stay - keep board numbers to a minimum - make them general overarching topics. making so many different boards for a community this close-knit just seems to isolate people and waste the moderator / users time.
XERXES · 2017-04-11 22:05
>>568 Why not, I agree. Let's name it /phi/
Incognito · 2017-04-11 22:06
>>563 >Things that are objectively ESSENTIAL: /feels/
Neo · 2017-04-11 22:28
My lineup: [ navi / cult / meat ] [ move / mind / make / art ] [ mega / meta / r ] /navi/ (software, hardware, programming, networking and security) /cult/ (culture {&,of,in} cyberpunk. Culture jamming could be a thread here) /meat/ (for discussing the influence of meatspace over cyberspace, including news. I wrote this before reading >>311, props) /move/ (outdoors. in response to all the threads about traveling, and the "go out and take cyb pictures" type threads) /mind/ (states of mind. could encompass /drg/, /feels/, /zzz/ and spirituality. Philosophy, physics and math could be crammed in here at the beginning) /make/ (collective and individual creation. Includes /diy/ and community projects like the lainzine, stickers, etc) /art/ (includes /lit/ and maybe /radio/. I remember we were close to recording making radio shows, in 2015 I think. That was cool) /mega/ (with catalog. It'd make it easier to move around the site if the boards are broader) /meta/ (/q/ with a different name so that new lains don't ask questions about whatever) /r/ My premise was that some of our old boards could just as well be a big thread in a more general board. I think that my board lineup would work if we kept to big as-general-as-possible threads. Say, start a programming thread on /navi/ and see what happens. If LISP starts to take up the thread, start a LISP thread. If LISP threads start to take up the board, create /LISP/. No hidden boards, unless they're part of a wargame and just for funposting.
Lisp · 2017-04-11 22:36
>>583 >My premise was that some of our old boards could just as well be a big thread in a more general board. >I think that my board lineup would work if we kept to big as-general-as-possible threads. Say, start a programming thread on /navi/ and see what happens. If LISP starts to take up the thread, start a LISP thread. If LISP threads start to take up the board, create /LISP/. The advantage of a programming board is that each language can have a general. The old /λ/ had threads for Lisp, Forth, APL, Java, C, C++, sh, Scala, assembler languages, Python, COBOL, et al.
Lady Jessica · 2017-04-11 22:37
>>573 While I agree that /feels/ might not be the highest priority especially in a site designed to discuss tech and everything that revolves around it, I also believe we need a place to blow off steam. Personally, I felt really at peace browsing around that particular board because the audience of this site seems to attract people with minds alike. Think of it as a containment for our emotions. I propose this to be continued wherever it might be located or if the name remains
Hagbard Celine · 2017-04-11 22:39
>>583 The /lamb/ deserve they own board. But a nice idea. Also, we could put /move/ and /meat/ in same board and if possible do the same for /art/ and /mind/.
Lord Nikon · 2017-04-11 22:40
>>448 I just feel given a new slate, we should focus on what is essential for Lainchan as we grow again. But, that is just my opinion.
SHODAN · 2017-04-11 22:40
>>586 Well, the users of /feels/ could use a site with focus on this.
John Titor · 2017-04-11 22:44
>>591 Could you elaborate your statement?
Yet Another Lainon · 2017-04-11 22:49
>>594 i think he is redirecting them to something like /r9k/, which i don't think is a very good idea. if he meant like /hikki/ that would be fine, i guess, but that uboa seems much less active than lainchan. i think that a lot of people posted genuinely helpful stuff on /feels/.
HELIOS · 2017-04-11 22:50
>>586 >>594 /feels/ started out as a containment board for all of the neurodivergent threads that previously dominated /r/andom. Rarely do containment boards actually serve their purpose, but /feels/ did so perfectly in no time. kalyx chose to keep the board despite virtually the entire staff having stood against it; the dude was and still is a vagabond and frequently contributed to those very same aforementioned threads as an outlet for venting frustrations. tech discussion and feelings of alienation exacerbated by tech went hand-in-hand back then, and should so now.
Unspecified · 2017-04-11 22:51
I only started browsing lainchan about a month ago (rip), but I can agree with merging some of the old boards together, like /sec/ and /tech/. They both deal with similar subject matter and having them both merged would make it feel more lively as more people would be posting in one place. I feel like a fresh start with 5/6 different boards and then expanding as needed might be a good idea, there's no need to split users between a whole bunch of boards when some could be merged and then as a whole be livelier. I could be wrong though, just my two cents I guess. Here's hoping lainchan bounces back from all this!
Koos van der Merwe · 2017-04-11 22:52
>>597 Agreed. I've always felt that a board like /feels/ very much has its place on a cyber board, much less a lain-inspired board.
Tequila · 2017-04-11 22:52
>>597 I must say my interest in this site dwindled post-buyout because it became evidently clear that the only mods that stuck around were those who were already living relatively comfortable lives--deluded and otherwise.
Switch · 2017-04-11 22:54
>>492 the thing is, i hate how this imageboard associates with lain it has nothing at fuarrrking all to do with the anime, and we just use lain as some kind of cheap mascot or "le cyberpunk maymay" theme uboachan is still at heart dedicated to Yume Nikki and it's fangames, it isn't just some random "let me stick this name here and put in a only slightly so, related topic in front of it" petition to change lainchan to some random chan name idk plus lain has become the new edgy kid's anime, and the population here shows (hello kalyx), so it triggers me harder oh and leftypol ruined /tech/
Liet Kynes · 2017-04-11 22:55
>>594 Just use small imageboards with focus on feels or something like that. >>596 >/hikki/ Isn't a perfect example but still better another /feels/ or /r9k/
Lord Nikon · 2017-04-11 22:57
>>602 I had more the impression that it started as a lain- website, and that people gathered around that fandom, but they had other interests. Plus I like all the lain pics.
Lord Nikon · 2017-04-11 22:58
>>596 As someone who frequently browses /r9k/ admittedly and checks on /hikki/ occasionally since it's merely dead, I wholeheartedly stand with you on the premise that it's a hazardous suggestion. Neither provides much suggestions if at all. It's more like a continuous spiral of self -deprecation providing minimal actual tips to recover from such a funk. Not to mention, like >>597 pinpoints, the board was a magnet for those who shared similar interests/experiences. Other sites will have a larger variation which derails any sense of unity. I learned from the advice submitted at times unlike other mediocre places.