Noise

Let's talk about noise, the incredible feedback in pop, rock, to harsh noise and power violence. Finally delving into Merzbow, with this guide, following the softer rhythmic tracks and I love it. Would definitely recommend Merzbuddha

I'm deinitely more interested in the pop and rock side of noise music, but definitely an interest of mine. Would be good to get more reccs if anyone has any. >Xinlinsupreme - I Am Not Shinozo Abe >Do you like waveshaping? Heavy pop rock fed through so many signal processors I don't know what's happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urf4-iz8MdM >loveliescrushing - Babybreath >Borderline shoegaze, ethereal soundscape of guitar and vocals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLe_-ZZbs5k

I am proud by rank of the workers has also rhythmic parts, it is mainly an improvisation album. Cuts Of Guilt, Cuts Deeper might be also worth to listen since it is rhythmic too in some parts.

>>5547 I love Xinlinsupreme, especially their album Tomorrow Never Comes. I don't know anyone like them to be honest but if you are looking for a good noise rock, I would recommend Girl Band; they're pretty fuarrrking dope. For people looking where to start with noise, I highly recommend the album, Going Places by Yellow Swans. That album is pure noise but is also pretty accessible and beautiful.

>Juke/19 - Ninety Seven Circles https://youtu.be/ZKORv7phOhY?t=1568

>Pan Daijing ‎- SEX & DISEASE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtqVHhAAAz4

Skullflower is pretty crunchy and harsh. I highly recommend their album, fuarrrked on A Pile of Corpses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyJ3UEySERA

>>5546 What do you think it is that makes us enjoy noise? Is it the general chaos? Is the lack of any conventional song structure and even some characteristics, such as rhythm, possibly freeing? Or maybe it's the fact that despite the chaos and lack of structure, there is often still an interesting progression in the music (except for harsh noise wall)? I don't know how I feel about the others but I think I definitely enjoy the progression component of much noise music.

I found one of the earliest noise works the other day: Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. It's actually pretty good for being so early in the genre and it still holds up today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIMSbKU2oZM

>>5572 > one of the earliest noise works I don't know about that. Stockhausen was messing around with primitive electronics as far back as the 40s. The dadaists had a form of noise music in the 20s they called "bruitism". I don't know if there were recordings but they actually scored some of it on paper and the pieces were performed later. Also look up "prepared piano".

>>5573 While I agree the sound was there all along (and Russolo is my kind of guy). I think previous anon wanted to say noise was born with MMM, because of attitude Lou had towards "the society" when he created it. To cite the man himself: >This record is not for parties/dancing/background romance. This is what I ment by "real" rock, about "real" things. No one I know has listened to it all the way through including myself. It is not meant to be. This is what noise is about (to me). Its not for anyone's pleasure, it's here because you have to create it. I think one of guys at Boris once said something along: "noise is japanese blues". And I agree fully, its here to express how you feel about stuff in ugliest, most non-listenable way possible. Noise before MMM didn't quite do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apNQVjapiAM Will - Hunting Lodge. Great industrial/noise album

>>5575 While I generally agree with that philosophy of noise music, I find the experience of listening to noise music to be enjoyable and pleasurable. Do you personally not enjoy and/or find pleasure in noise music when you listen to it? Do you consider it to always be ugly and non-listenable?

>>5603 Preface. Nowadays I am exclusively harsh noise wall type of guy. I listen to HNW when I need to blanket all my feelings and thoughts. To be nothing, feel nothing. I find noise pleasurable, but I'd argue this is different kind of pleasure compared to normal music. Which is exactly my point, when I listen to more poppy kind of sound, I enjoy the groove it creates. With more "intellectual" kind of music like modern classical, I tend to think what happens there musically. Noise doesn't evoke those kinds of things in me. It often doesn't even have them (though some artists do employ them). This is what I mean when I said it's ugliest, most non-listenable stuff possible. It's not music, it doesn't have to be. Of course it sometimes is, but this is not the kind of noise I enjoy. Of course there are exceptions, as always. Kubota absolutely smashes most of the noise I've listened to dust, precisely, because it employs musical sounds in interesting way.

>>5618 Ah, makes sense. I differently derive a different kind of pleasure from noise than I would from other music, such as the interesting sonic textures and progression it can contain, and how ugly and/or enveloping it can be at times; so I think I relate you there. Who is Kubota? I have never heard of them and I can't seem to find them on streaming services or YouTube. Do you mind providing a link to them? I'm interested to hear them.

>Bit Meddler - Anamorph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dZlzkmBtsw

>>5622 Kazuma Kubota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcrrbGRSNrw

A thought just occurred to me: does psychedelic noise exist? One genre plays on distortions of one's senses; the other completely abandons the musical conventions that our minds are accustomed to, so they seem like they would be an interesting mix. If anyone knows of any, I would love to hear it

>>5634 You just opened the cans of worms re: what is "noise" and what is psychedelic. (All music is noise; all sound is psychedelic; blah blah blah, save it because I don't care) but stuff like the Tribes of Neurot/Walking Timebombs collaboration might be close to what you mean.

>>5634 Of course it does! But it's hard to tell which is which unless artist specifically say: my noise is psych. I can recommend you Batztoutai With Material Gadgets by Merzbow. It's from his pre-digital era and is packed to the brim with musique concrete.

>>5624 Thanks! This is super interesting!

Hey guys, I want to get into noise but I need a little more help. I'm already experienced with heavier music (mostly old school industrial) so what do you think would be a good starter for someone into industrial/rhytmic noise? I'll leave you a sample of the most "noise-like" music I've heard: https://youtu.be/BFe4IQXaZf8 https://youtu.be/YtB6BJKifEA

>>5546 I love noise music, even make some of my own. My favorite artists are: dreamcrusher (https://dreamcrusher.bandcamp.com/): The artist that sold me on the concept of noise music. Has some solid beats to it, but all made from harsh noises- very melodic but soooo chaotic too. whitehouse: A staple of noise music, just an angry brit screaming and yelling and otherwise just vocalizing over grating sonic textures and pitches- l o v e Five Star Hotel: I think only Gray Data (Deluxxx) can really be considered "pure" noise, but her other stuff is definitely inspired by it as well. AJA (https://opaltapes.com/album/aja): Really weird vocalizations, somehow kinda poppy, but definitely noise through and through Uboa (https://uboa.bandcamp.com/): Very emotionally inspired noise for venting out pain, letting it out. Favorite album is The Flesh of the World, the newest one. Pharmakon (https://pharmakon.bandcamp.com/): Album I recc most is Bestial Burden. Deep themes and concept ideas to each album. Sonically, like deep expressions of horror and pain lashing out violently- but all under control, a controlled chaos. Fe-mail: You can find them on spotify. A wide range here with them. Sometimes it's just various found noises playing with weird female vocalizations occurring throughout, others it's harsh noise blaring with vocal qualities that are interesting. Hanatarash: Another staple of noise music. Have only really listened to 3, which I recommend. You can feel passion and deep expressions through it. Ramleh: Hole in the Heart is a classic for noise, so sombre and morose. Merzbow: The biggest name in noise. With more releases than most could realistically delve into, having hundreds of albums since the 80's and onwards. My fave albums are Merzbeat, Merzzow, Aqua Necromancer, and Pulse Demon (the latter being a high staple of harsh noise) Will post later on noise-adjacent or noise-utilizing music, but for now here's this. Also, there's a noise discord that's gaining some prominence and doing some things: https://discord.gg/FeDNmQP

>>5634 >does psychedelic noise exist? glitch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbR_p12gNMw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-vSFDZGfF4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ1zjPqJBPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiz0F8y8fQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omDK2Cm2mwo don't click those if you're an epileptic it's deeply physiological and sensual in a way that harsh noise isn't for me. really gets in your head like psychedelic music.

>>5650 I guess maybe Hunting Lodge. They move slightly closer to harsh noise and begin to abandon the structure industrial, like the samples you showed, tends to maintain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apNQVjapiAM

stan Wolf Creek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0L_l8f-mps

>>5572 >>5573 Oh, it's much older than that. Try the 1920's. Check out the Sub Rosa Anthology of Noise and Electronic Music collection. Here's a link to the 1 of 7 on bandcamp: https://subrosalabel.bandcamp.com/album/an-anthology-of-noise-electronic-music-1 >>5568 I find the lack of structure soothing. I can listen to noise and do my work. It is a reprieve from the symmetry, rhythm and structure of everything that surrounds us. Chromesthesia probably has something to do with this too.

Anybody into Boredoms? I can't get enough of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDzBpQ0GcoU&t=1327s

You should definitely listen to Boris and Merzbow's collaborations if you haven't already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02RCRL0rVg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJaRQUehP8c This has the wrong album cover for some reason Info Dump by Strapping Young Lad It's the only noise track SYL ever made (most of their music is death/thrash metal), but it was my introduction to noise music and is still one of my favorites. It's very ambient and droney, and gives me a very meditative feeling. It also has a pretty good gradual buildup in intensity.

It's been too long without a noise post. Here's some good soykaf I have been listening to recently: > Sewn Leather - Feel The Lock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edw6IOoIB5c > Hijokaidan - Beyond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a3SIjNKHHg > Kevin Drumm - 2 https://kevindrumm.bandcamp.com/track/2