Shoegaze & Ethereal

For me those genre is special. It make me feel like nostalgia for something that never exists. I started from My Bloody Valentine many years ago, while listening mostly [depressive suicidal] black and other rare-earth metals. Last years only soft and melancholic music took place, and i listened to most of popular bands like Lush, Slowdive, Ride, Swervedriver, Swirlies, … Sometimes i accidentally meet new old rare bands on youtube, and sometimes i intentionally dig those in soulseek user shares. Collecting full discography of unpopular bands of unpopular genre may be hard or even impossible. In 2019 i discovered Mistle Thrush, Siddal, All Natural Lemons, Difference Engine, The Curtain Society and Drop Nineteens. Hard to believe that all that gems is from 80-90s. I'm just 20-25, but feel like born in wrong time, enjoying C64, NES games and music from that times. Is there someone like me? Let's share rare shoegaze / ethereal bands and be sad together!

I was only listening to Ride last night. Haven't listened to them in years. (Am old enough however to remember them when they first appeared). Pic related. My fave band of all time. Yes, I bought this LP when it was released.

>>4661 "The Jesus and Mary Chain" is new for me, thanks for sharing! Usually no one reply me / my threads, but you broke the rule, somehow

>>4662 Get this album and listen to it. In 1985 it was the best thing I had ever heard. Indeed, to this day, it still is. Probably the most important and influential guitar group that ever was. Media here at home hailed this album as the best of the decade. I cannot recommend it enough. Enjoy.

Souvlaki >>> everything else. Why anyone gives a soykaf about Loveless is beyond me. I've been trying to figure out what went wrong with you all for 15 years and I'm no closer to finding the answer than I was on day 1.

Underrated masterpiece. The Boo Radleys pivoted into weird pop after this, still pretty good but not shoegaze any more.

>>4665 Dissonant noisy textures are pleasing. At the time it was a pretty impressive release in terms of what guitars and vocals could be processed into; a lot of audio engineers couldn't figure out how the hell Kevin Shields got the sounds he did. I agree on Souvlaki, regardless. If Loveless is your thing though, definitely check out Astrobrite (and loveliescrushing) if you haven't already. Delicious walls of noise and ethereal vocals all layered on top of each other. Big inspiration for pinkshinyultrablast, a Russian shoegaze / dream-pop band everyone should also check out. >Astrobrite - Ultrablast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RjgAXKjX9Y >Astrobrite - I Am Endless Sky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcHb7kLzQ3A

Pale Saints is great too, especially pic related.

>>4676 My issue with Loveless is that give or take the couple tracks that rely on samples, underneath the effects, all the tracks would work out fine on guitar and bongos. With Slowdive - and lovesliescrushing - the effects were part of the process and nothing works without them ( which is part of the reason they're so underwhelming live )

>>4658 Try out the album Urban Twilight by Oeil, they're a Japanese band that basically wanted to emulate MBV and the album is really good. Also I'm 27 and feel the same about shoegaze making me feel nostalgic for things that never existed. It brings a warmth to my life that doesn't exist and that I can only dream about. I can share more recommendations if you'd like.

>>4681 When I read this I felt like I must have written it while I was drunk, which is possible but probably unlikely. I'm 27 as well. I didn't know there was anybody else who liked Oeil. It's probably the best emulation of MBV I've heard, too many shoegaze bands make basically ambient music with guitar effects. MBV has some excellent pop songwriting, which is what so many mss. Feel free to offer some more reccomendations please

>>4693 Ahhhh that's super cool Lain. I've actually had that exact same feeling that you've described several times while on Lainchan. There's something very special about the type of people this board attracts and I love it. It's why I never tell anyone about it though; if you're not able to stumble upon it yourself and love it you probably don't belong here. One second, let me go through my spotify and find bands I like. Even if you already like them it's kind of cool to find people who listens to these bands. Sticking with the Japanese theme for now; what about Coaltar of the Deepers, or Luminousorange? I really like those two.

not >>4693 >>4701 >> There's something very special about the type of people this board attracts and I love it. It's why I never tell anyone about it though; if you're not able to stumble upon it yourself and love it you probably don't belong here. Oh man, exactly my thoughts I would like to add band Whirr to this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-DCUjHEiiY >>4676 This pinkshinyultrablast is marvelous. I feel like I need to polish my russian

>>4710 Oh, I just realized lyrics are in english haha Btw, what do you think about 2013 mbv album? I think that this particular song is a masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2FQ3ih0MoE

>>4661 >>4664 oh my god I love that album so much, it really is an underappreciated gem

you all should check out ar kane if you havent already... they were a big precursor to all of that shoegazey post-rockish stuff. they floated around between 4AD and rough trade inbetween releases. "i" is a pretty alright record, but you lot would probably like their singles and their first album 69 a lot. check this song: https://youtu.be/ObmS-N7bptc >>4676 seconding astrobrite. and lovesliescrushing. i LOVE lovesliescrushing

>>4681 love oeil. Highly recommend yuragi if you want moar japanese shoegaze

For those of you who like ~the beast / streaming services / cloud data~ you can collab on this playlist I made from this thread. Added a few songs from the albums yall mentioned. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7bG8zQR8aRQMM9aSmdka4N?si=GGNstp8uQBeh2YwcD5ezsQ Peace

Personally I am a big fan of the more noise side of shoegaze, and also doomgaze/gloomgaze. Anyone who's into that will probably think these are entry level albums but they're all great let me do some recomendations if you do not mind. I will give short descriptions or selling points too. >Cosmicdust - Snow Noise Assemblage https://youtu.be/V1manzHQCSo This is an example of a great album with a terrible cover. This is a good entry to this style since other than the blizzard-esque white noise guitar tones the actual song structures are quite pop oriented and catchy, but with the everpressent snow of absolutely crushed guitar walls (maybe synths even i can't tell(as it should be)) in the background transporting you to the dream state you need to be in. A great fuarrrking album. >The Goslings - Grandeur of Hair https://youtu.be/4vz-2nVlD1E Cosmic dust may be a nice introduction to this style but the goslings are absolute ledgends who pull no punches. This is not shoegaze with noise influences, this is noise with shoegaze influences. An hour of the crunchiest harmonics, sluggy riffs, and hair grandure. If you like les ralizes denudes this will likely appeal to you. Personally i love it but I'm aware it's not for everyone. >Astrobrite - Whitenoisesuperstar https://youtu.be/BYOE96-r9nM I don't even know how to describe this one, a very engulfing stream of white noise guitars and angelic vocals, with drums straight out of a breakcore album, there's nothing quite like it. This one will truly take you places. A very specific sort of emotion you really can't find anywhere else, you may not even be aware it existed but once you hear it you realise you've always felt this way. If I wanted to demonstrate the beauty and awe that nosie music can evoke, this would probably be my go to album. >Planning For Burial - Below The House https://youtu.be/vNcGVIohlMQ personally, as an album i preffer planning for burials album "leaving", however below the house is much more shoegazey than that album, and is also all around great. A great sadness surrounds me. I am a grain of sand beneath it's beauty. >The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand https://youtu.be/UHC0wCVKEIA and finally another more metal sided "doomgaze" release. Do not worry however, if you like melodic, emotional vocal passages this album has them in spades! I think the mix in this album does a very good job of capturing this feeling of a real wall of sound coming at you from all sides, almost oppressive but still highly expressive and dynamic ranging from trippy more typical tones to more metal style tones which almost sound like the sort of hoover synth you'd find on a with house track! The first time i heard this album I didn't like it so much, but the second time it really clicked with me. I guess it feels somehow, maybe this sounds silly to say, galactic in scale. It feels like the feeling of loss or grief but experienced by a god the size of andromeda. Also, this album is mixed at quite a low volume so you may want to turn it up a little more than typical listening levels.

>Julee Cruise >Angelo Badalamenti >Cocteau Twins All essential leads on the ethereal half of dream pop/shoegaze

I love this album

Love shoegaze though I wouldn't ever say crap like "Im born in the wrong generation". For one, if that was the case, I couldn't listen to this related 2015 gem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbxiERL0Xek

>>4962 I was born in the wrong generation. I was totally meant to be born in the third-wave Genephreak generation of the ~2170s. I mean have you ever heard any post-nuclear climate phonk on their original engram captures? Forget those digital versions. Just sounds so trinary. Gotta be bio-analog. So many amazing albums. They just don't make any good music like that yet. And the general aesthetic of burned-out mutant chic? It makes me long for a place nobody's ever been before. I'm so pre-nostalgic for that period.

>>4962 I never understood the I was born in the wrong generation thing either. Like who restricted you from listening to 90s music in the 2000s? Who restricted you from it in the 2010s or the 2020s? Nobody but you. Not everyone around you needs to like what you like in order to make it more or less interesting.

>>4964 It is like kicking dead whales down the beach if Lain wanted to see those artists live I guess. Youtube videos, if they even exist for a certain event, are next to useless compared to being there.

>>4965 Eh you have kind of a point. I personally hate live performances, even from bands who I have an intense connection with and who do fantastic live work. I just don't think live music is conductive to the experience I want to have. Sounds like soykaf, full of distractions, you can do mushrooms but you can't sit in the woods and look at the sunset and spiders starting to crawl out and set up their webs for the night on tree limbs and the sun-bleached bones of an old boathouse. I recognize my way isn't the only way, not is it superior, but you can definitely enjoy the art of decades past without being lost in wallowing or impotent yearning or nostalgia culture. You can just listen to it and enjoy it for what it is today.

>>4966 Nostalgia is a valid human experience and it's not just for old people. I have more pity for people who have none in fact; people who have only lived life by proxy, through media.

>>4965 But you cant just live your entire life just hoping you were in the past or you will miss things you enjoy

>>4967 You're totally right; I earnestly say that I am irony-poisoned and use too much smark, but I do think nostalgia is a valid emotion like you say. But I think there's an important distinction between normal, individual human nostalgia and nostalgia culture. Making a whole constructed community and identity around it and using it to bemoan the current state of the world is to create a nightmare turning inward on itself. I spent a little time in the synthwave movement (along with lots of other ex-death metal and hardcore musicians for some weird reason) before it became joyless and appropriated by delusional gen-x people trying to revive their glory days. Or not even their own glory days: the glory days of the idols they saw on TV when they were kids. Ghost busters. The A-Team. Knight Rider. John Carpenter movies. These things are great and all, and I do miss them sometimes—but their specific reaction to it is sad and insane, like an over-medicated schizophrenic person drooling on themselves. That's the scene that kind of informed me on my ideas about nostalgia culture, hauntology, and other psychological panics brought about by the cold terror of living in this hypnotic end-of-history postmodern media spectacle. We either react by embracing, becoming chaotic and playful—ѕһіtposting, basically—or we retreat into denial, build pathetic little dioramas of our preferred decade in our homes and minds. Even if (especially if) we never actually lived in that period. Or perhaps we go off in some third direction. Reject and become iconoclasts or luddites or become absurd and incomprehensible. There are very few reactions to this psychogeography that make good sense or have a healthy affect on a community or individual. Maybe one of those third options will eventually prove good, will illuminate a path to truly escaping the dead end and finally continuing the work of mankind, the progress of our minds and imaginations. But I think we're a long way from making out any light at the end of the tunnel. Perhaps I'm shadowboxing here. Talking nonsense, rambling. But music nostalgia can be like heroin. It can be relaxing, serene, it feels intensely good. But it can also numb you to your true conditions and slowly wither away your vitality, hollow you out. There's obviously something special about music; otherwise we wouldn't be so universally obsessed with these noises with no apparent utilitarian value. But it can also be a powerful barrier as well as an emotional tool. It bears keeping in mind.

>>4968 I'm not living in the past and I actually lived through a lot of stuff that people posting on imageboards who weren't even born yet like to idealize. There's something worse than living in the past anyway, and that's living through youtube, something that's become depressingly common. Like, it's fine to acknowledge that things happened that you wish you were there to witness yourself. No one is saying that interesting things stopped happening. In my my experience, the people who tell others not to live in the past haven't done or seen anything remarkable enough to feel wistful about themselves and if they did, were too busy filming it with their phone and posting selfies to enjoy it at the time.

>>4970 Fair dibs, I agree it's worse to live in an unmoored, anachronistic, simulated spectacle than it is to be trapped in one's true past experiences. That's a choice between two horrible miseries, but the former is far worse and unfortunately pretty common. The tragedy is that so is the latter. We need to find a way for more people to live apart from either of those I think. Not trying to imply you're in either camp, by the way.

>>4970 I guess what I mean is you can always sulk and say oh woe is where I grew up and then scroll through pinterest looking at old things and old photos and stuff but whatll that change if you dont make a conscious effort to build your personality on more than just nostalgia? Thats almost as restricting as holding yourself from human interaction by watching youtube

Partially due to my own participation, we are wildly off topic now. I'd like to start a thread to discuss hauntology and the other things brought up but my internet access is about to be cut off for the night. Maybe tomorrow.

>>4972 You seem to be mixing up my own posts with someone else's. Nothing you said really describes my condition or even comes close.

>>4973 Apologies for that, but I'm definitely down to join you in your new thread once you're back online. Have a good night.

Realizing I should contribute more since I've been getting so much from the peripheral conversations. I'm not sure I'd call this shoegaze, but it's kind of related and it's definitely ethereal imo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKLbq0oAxJw Got some Slinty vibes maybe. Also recommend Don, Aman if you haven't gotten down with Slint yet.

>>4976 You get Slint vibes off of it because there were members of Slint in it, or one at least. Louisville had an active music scene through the 90s with a lot of projects sharing members. Go to wiki and follow some links, there's a bottomless well of this stuff.

>>4978 Damn, somehow never caught that. Thanks for informing me. I have some wiki holes to dig through now :)

>>4969 wow, i'm surprised nobody's responded to this post, because i think it poses some really good questions anon. i think you're right - it's like this gross fascination with the past ("the good old days") is totally unhealthy, but at the same time i feel like it isn't something that's exclusive to this time, you know? like, maybe everyone who's ever made something truly new has had to overcome the same thing... the same sort of "retrovertigo" i guess is the word for it. i feel like going out of your way to make something completely new isn't the route most people take - to me it seems like a lot of the things you can look back at and recognize as super distinctive happened not independently but by reaction to other things that were happening at the time. like, how no wave was a big reaction to the commercialization of punk. maybe that's the only thing we can do right now if we want to make something that isn't just re-hashing the past. keep your ear to the ground and listen intently to what's happening now

Highly recommend Candy Claws and Sound of Ceres. They're basically the same band, just under different names. There's not a day that I don't listen to their music

>sweet trip >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZlNt05dCX8 Really interesting hybrid of shoegaze and glitch. Checkout the second and last tracks on this album if you want to see their most shoegaze side.

LSD and the Search for God is really nice. https://lsdandthesearchforgod.bandcamp.com/album/lsd-and-the-search-for-god

The Ecstasy of Saint Theresa is my favorite shoegaze band, sounds kinda like heavier MBV in some of theirs songs.

>>5421 used to listen to that album all the time

>>4962 kno of anywhere one could acquire the digital files for this album? looks like it was on bandcamp at one point but gone now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eEZOf5SuKs Bowery Electric is pretty good. Has this liminal urban vibe to it or something of the sort. Can't quite put my finger on it but the first time I listened to them it felt like I had heard their music in a past life or sometime early in my childhood.

>>5458 liminal urban? I think this is definitely more of a shoegaze-y vibe.

>>5426 Damn I really want to know what they are saying in "Starting Over". Most of the online lyrics are "incomplete"

Shizuka is my musical drug.

>>4962 I was never born. Good music, I like female lascivious fronted bands.

>>4701 Which luminousorange album would you reccomend?

They're technically blackgaze, but I love Alcest. The way they mix black metal with shoegaze produces something very ethereal and atmospheric. It's easy to get lost in.

>>5985 My frog Alcest is very good musician and deliver very good music. Nice take my Lainon. My fav: Le Secret; Écailles; Souvenirs; Les Voyages.(almost all of there music).

Highly recommend you guys check out Xinlisupreme. They make some really great music that flirts between shoegaze, dream pop and noise rock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDumJwZarXU

Absolutely love this album

Don't forget about Yellow Loveless. It's a great album and a great sampler of a bunch of other shoegaze bands.

i used to listen to this every night before going to bed, Loveless makes me feel peaceful and sleepy;

>>6020 I really love this one too, i always imagine a car trip faaar away listening to this.

>>5425 do they have more songs similar to those you mentioned?

>>6031 This, I actually prefer it to regular Loveless by quite a bit

>>4762 hey lainon, i checked your playlist and would love to add more. How do I join your collab? Peace