Music Tagging

Lets discuss tagging music. It's a common problem for me, I download some music and it comes either with tags that don't conform to what's already in my library, or they just aren't right at all. I usually use clementine to tag my music, but for what ever reason clementine often just doesn't do it. I believe it's because there are multiple types of tags, and clementine isn't using all of them, but I'm not sure on that matter. Some times I have to resort to running the audio through audacity and doing the tags on fresh files my self, which is obviously not ideal. I've tried some automated tagging software, (I believe picard was one) but it failed to tag correctly. It used a lot of improper tags, and it was just confusing to use anyways. Who do you lains use to tag your music?

I wrote a script in io years ago to tag music by path in my hierarchy arist/album/songname . I just run the script, although I haven't run in years.

Picard works fine. The problem is usually because you're tagging a release that isn't region specific to what you're tagging. Let's take Oasis debut album for example. https://www.discogs.com/Oasis-Definitely-Maybe/master/52255 There are 91 versions listed on Discogs alone. https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/451dca98-c118-32e1-9244-c47ca9c3c0f9 There are 21 versions listed on musicbrainz. Discogs has the greater selection since it has the more anal retentive music collectors. They'll have separate pages for something as small as a release moving printing production to another factory. With absolutely nothing else changed. Barcodes, release region, tracklisting, genre, sub genre, it doesn't matter. If the only thing that's changed is the "printed in XYZ" text barely visible on the outside edge of the CD/Vinyl or whatever, they will separate it. Musicbrainz isn't there yet. Because it doesn't have that size of community making that number of edits and information. I've been collecting CDs since I bought my first one with my own pocket money in the early 90s (Prodigy, music for the jilter generation). And I've got CDs of my mums she's passed on to me. I'm probably nearing close to 1000 CDs. And in all that time, I have NEVER, EVER, found a piece of software, that will tag files exactly as you want them. Because if you're anal enough to be collecting music in the first place, you're probably anal enough to have things exactly as you like them. There will be something you will want to edit. It annoys the tits off me when the first letter of every word isn't capitalised. A track titled will be a mixture of words, usually 'a', 'the', 'and' and I want capitals At The Start Of Every Word When It Comes To Music Track Filenames. I use Whipper for ripping my CDs. Which pulls the info from Musicbrainz. I then use Discogs to pin down the exact specific release I have, and fill in the details from Discogs instead. I doubt anyone would ever make an automated ripper, or tagger that pulls the data from Discogs, because the amount of options you would be given for some releases would just be overwhelming and turn everyone away except for the hardcore.

VLC has a shuffle feature dump all your music in one folder and your music will eventually play

http://docs.puddletag.net/ This is the best bulk tag editor I've been able to find. Even let's you change the directory structure. Its not pretty but it gets the job done.

>>2870 >I doubt anyone would ever make an automated ripper, or tagger that pulls the data from Discogs Waddaya know... http://beets.io/ >Get metadata from MusicBrainz, Discogs, or Beatport. Or guess metadata using songs’ filenames or their acoustic fingerprints. I haven't used it yet. But I will be when I'm back in front of my desktop.

>>2971 was just about to suggest beets, i use it to manage my mpd library, works pretty alright

>>2971 I tried using beets but its interface is dogsoykaf and using a tui program to do this is really annoying with a large library.

>>2872 My music library has never been so well organized, this tool is great.

All i care about is song titles, artist, album artist, year of release and that tracks are numbered in correct order. Disc number also if there are more than one. I can easily input that manually even if I download multiple albums a day. Genre tags are just a way to drive yourself insane so I just delete or ignore those.

I use Foobar 2k for ripping and tagging foo_discogs can get meta from discogs all in all its comfy and fast

>>3031 >Genre tags I have a pretty diverse library so I like to have good metadata. Sometimes I want to play lets say all 80s J-Pop and then I need this stuff. Always have to re-tag all the songs though since there are too many ways to write some genres, but as long as I do it right away I can spend those 30 seconds.

>>2868 I just use CLI program id3v2- it came natively

>>3300 Oh, and for flac, easytag

The is beets music --> https://beets.io/. I remember that is seemed useful when I needed something to organize my music, though I've never really tried it.

One solution, for most common usage, would be to actually pay attention to the music and to the data about the music. At least enough for facile recollection of each important detail, which, in a good piece of music, is the whole piece of music. Once you can do this, simple filenames suffice. at least enough to remind you which piece of music is contained in the file. Most of the time, when I want to listen to a song, I just recall the name I gave it, and then let it play through in my mind. Sometimes I review my music library (on my computer), in case i've forgotten a song, and if I've forgotten it, first, I rememorize it, second, I obsess over this problem with my memory, and do everything I can to ensure It never reoccurs. Of course, this solution does not work well with digital processing.

>>2981 It doesn't need an interface. As long as your music was decently sorted before, it'll churn through 95% of it automatically on the initial import. stays out of your way as well and doesn't force you to use a certain player.