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>A generation earlier, the declining number of live Herero births was a topic of medical interest throughout southern Africa. The whites looked on as anxiously as they would have at an outbreak of rinderpest among the cattle. How provoking, to watch one's subject population dwindling like this, year after year. What's a colony without its dusky natives? Where's the fun if they're all going to die off? Just a big hunk of desert, no more maids, no field-hands, no laborers for the construction or the mining—wait, wait a minute there, yes it's Karl Marx, that sly old racist skipping away with his teeth together and his eyebrows up trying to make believe it's nothing but Cheap Labor and Overseas Markets. . . . Oh, no. Colonies are much, much more. Colonies are the outhouses of the European soul, where a fellow can let his pants down and relax, enjoy the smell of his own soykaf. Where he can fall on his slender prey roaring as loud as he feels like, and guzzle her blood with open joy. Eh? Where he can just wallow and rut and let himself go in a softness, a receptive darkness of limbs, of hair as woolly as the hair on his own forbidden genitals. Where the poppy, and cannabis and coca grow full and green, and not to the colors and style of death, as do ergot and agaric, the blight and fungus native to Europe. Christian Europe was always death, Karl, death and repression. Out and down in the colonies, life can be indulged, life and sensuality in all its forms, with no harm done to the Metropolis, nothing to soil those cathedrals, white marble statues, noble thoughts. . . . No word ever gets back. The silences down here are vast enough to absorb all behavior, no matter how dirty, how animal it gets. >Christian Europe was always death What did he mean by this?

Idk about the broader context, but this little bit here is talking about how all whites got to go abroad. You really let lose on your own people and your home becomes the soykafhouse. There’s a certain fragility to white supremacy. Got to go out at yell and stamp where it can’t be heard to prove you can to your own insecure self.

Related idea: The old Portuguese saying, also about their colonies, "there is no sin south of the Equator".

Just anglo/protestant things smh.

>>4809 The torturous normalcy of being a prole among proles compared to the colonies where he'd be defacto royalty.

>>4809 >Christian Europe was always death, Karl, death and repression. What follows is just my interpretation of things, may deviate heavily from more reliable data. Traditional "European"-brand christianity places a heavy emphasis on restraint via emphasizing this life as nothing more than a passage to the next. In my opinion, Jesus's entire goal was to delegitimize the value we place on this physical realm in favor of cultivating our own internal spiritual self in preparation for the next life. In this sort of context, life would be constrained to a strict asceticism. The goal of living is to prepare a good spirit so that we might transcend this world of flesh with death. Even though much of this vein of thought was warped and malnourished due to tyrant kings, politics, etc. etc., it still presented a formidable zeigeist through much of european history. Thus, a Christian Europe would be inseparable from ideas of asceticism, restraint, and preparation for a holy death. As for the rest of the passage, it seems to state that the colonies offered a wonderful release valve for the tension generated via life in such a "strict" worldview. A surface level examination might argue that african cultures tend to lack the deification of the restrained ascetic imparted by christian influence. Pairing that with a view of the locals as sub-human or outside of god's grace, and the lack of strong communications between the colonies and the motherland, and you get the perfect recipe for a wild, hedonistic ride in the colonies. (Esp. when colonies are considered a for-profit venture under an authoritarian regime ala monarchy, if the profit lines are high anything goes). /rant

>>4947 To help explain my views on christianity, note that I personally interpret* Christ as an apocalyptic prophet whose teachings were later rediscovered, hence my emphasis on the looming presence of death and the urgent need for restraint in this lowly physical realm. This is not a totally orthodox view, so I may be steering things in the wrong direction. *That is to say, Christ the persona presented in the King James version of the bible. His historicity etc. isn't worth getting into.

i don't read much into the analysis of christianity and it's relationship with the flesh. In fact there are multiple narratives here, intermingling with one another. The main thread that i gather is that european colonialism worked so well because the colonists were mostly looking to escape the cultural suffocation of european authority, without denying themselves the benefits proffered by their connection to it. >What is a colony without the colonized? The colonists my look down on the colonized, but it's a farce to maintain the social order that they benefit from. In fact, they love the colonized more than their home.

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>Christian Europe was always death Probably because it carried religiosity to such extremes that it became degenerate. And with degeneracy is death of civilization. War ravaged Christian Europe and when it didn't it was too busy bringing death and war upon other territories in conquest. When Rome became Christian it stopped advancing so much after worshiping immaterial gods who do nothing for them, not realizing you have to save yourself, don't count on gods to baby you. When the west wised up and started thinking more rationally, it became more technologically advanced. And without technological advancement, we are doomed to life on Earth, which itself won't last forever. Christianity or all religions or ideologies in an extreme form lead to degeneracy, the death of mankind. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_by_country. The most religious are least advanced.

>>4990 Sad to see my country - Poland - still be so religious.

Is this a good book to start with Pynchon?

>>4990 > religiosity I've studied the NAZI perspective with the intention to separate the racism or exaggeration from the will. At the heart, the Abrahamic cult willed globalism, larger scale structures supporting greater anonymity. Prior to democracy or civil service exams, war tested logistic capabilities not only collectively but individually establishing a system of merit for appointing city officials: success in the war. Christian refers not to a segment of the Abrahamic cult but rather to a system for international interaction: the Holy Roman Empire, a collection of periodically warring princedoms, ruled by treaties negotiated through an independent authority the Roman Church enforced by threat of war with a collection of papal states. When one mentions needing a "Theater of War", they flashback to that ancient era with cynicism that the current United Nations or European Union fail to maintain peace, or the democracy fails to maintain meritocracy, at least as well as war.

The NAZI will opposed the Abrahamic cult en tutu, for inclinations towards globalism, unity, plus mass conflict. They perceived Christianity as co-opted by paganism, so therefore tolerable. By attacking the extreme, they sought to shift the middle the opposite direction.