lainchan / lit
Lainzine 4 thread
Junk · 2016-06-12 18:07
We've been accepting submissions for lainzine 4 for a few weeks now, there's currently 6 articles. If you would like to make any contributions, email junk0@openmailbox.org.
This is the time to finish up the lainzine articles you've been working on for the next release. We are also accepting any artwork you create, and are looking for people willing to contribute to editing, illustration, or typesetting of the zine. If you'd like to help in any way, please get in touch.
We are also creating TXT releases of the first 3 lainzines, as well as HTML releases. The site lainzine.neocities.org will soon be active for downloading your copies of the lainzine.
Jet Black · 2016-06-13 05:27
Awaiting number four, feeling casually excited.
Also do you guys need an actual site to host it on?
Hacker · 2016-06-13 12:31
>>3724
There's https://lainchan.org/zine/ already but it only has the first two issues. I think it used to be next to /rules/ in the menu and got removed at some point.
Dujour · 2016-06-13 20:03
>>3727
And the linked files 404, at least for me.
The Plague · 2016-06-13 20:08
>>3721
Is there some kind of deadline?
Jet Black · 2016-06-14 03:37
>>3727
>>3730
http://lainzine.neocities.org/
>>3731
not really.
Cereal Killer · 2016-06-14 03:38
>>3731
not yet. contribute as soon as you can
Lady Jessica · 2016-06-14 08:42
Might try and work up an article. Thanks to everyone who has submitted in previous zines though.
torch · 2016-06-14 18:13
Person who did the front and back cover for lainzine 3 here. I'm up for more graphic design if you want it. Additionally I'm working on some possible articles.
Nell · 2016-06-15 00:46
Last zine was good, but could you have more technical articles then stories?
Ender · 2016-06-16 02:52
Does Lainzine accept academic paper submissions?
Neo · 2016-06-16 03:39
>>3737
sounds great! you did amazing work on those, what kind of article are you working on?
>>3739
if we get more technical articles then sure.
>>3747
uhh, is it one you wrote?
Mitnick · 2016-06-16 04:29
>>3747
provided you wrote it
>>3739
most of our articles are technical so far
Turner · 2016-06-16 07:11
Okay, so I complained about my trip report not getting published on Erowid for unknown reasons, and someone suggested that I submit it for the zine.
I am posting this in the thread because I don't have a Tor friendly email service to use.
Here it is if you're interested.
The password is "luvlain"
http://pasted.co/7f3e5f28
It's pretty long. If you want me to chop it down I could try to do that.
I don't have a title. I'm terrible with that sort of thing.
I do have an image that I think should go with it. I feel like this is a near perfect representation of some of the visual effects I experienced.
https://psychonautwiki.org/w/images/8/8d/Enhancement_of_colours_-_woods.jpg
Masami Eiri · 2016-06-16 17:52
Recycling and scavenging articles plox.
torch · 2016-06-16 21:42
>>3748
I asked Junk about writing either an article on firearms basics(safety, choosing a firearm, training, etc) or an article on operational security. Also working on a few illustrations, glad to hear you liked the covers.
Junk · 2016-06-17 00:21
I'm going to write up a document on "what to submit to the lainzine", and put it on neocities. stay tuned.
Also, I got an email the other day from the lainzine text releases guy. Expect lainzine #3 .txt Soon™.
>>3754
do you think you could write one?
>>3759
emailed you back, did u get it?
>>3751
It's not the shortest, but we've had pieces longer than this. I'll let you know if we need any revisions
Turner · 2016-06-18 16:10
I don't have an article yet, but would anyone be interested in a walk through coding a chaotic simulation?
Junk · 2016-06-18 18:10
>>3762
I don't currently have access to junk0@openmailbox.org, please email your pieces to the following:
tilde@openmailbox.org
hex_offender@openmailbox.org
>>3790
yes
Ein · 2016-06-19 10:42
How long can a written piece be if one was thinking of writing a story?
Bobby Newmark · 2016-06-19 19:00
>>3798
I'd say 3-4 pages max. How long is yours?
Bob Arctor · 2016-06-20 20:43
I know, I know, you wish you had half as much skill as I do
RenTec · 2016-06-21 08:16
>>3732
http://lainzine.neocities.org/ is featured front page on neocities.org !
Trinity · 2016-06-21 08:34
>>3820
dude what
okay who here is a web dev we need to make this thing sexy
J.C. Denton · 2016-06-21 22:20
>>3821
What do you want to change? It's perfect.
The true value is content, not presentation.
Marly Krushkhova · 2016-06-21 22:38
>>3824
thats true. I guess I feel nervous bc its on the front page of neocities where everyone can see it but I suppose our content speaks for itself on this one
Seph · 2016-06-23 06:45
Perhaps you could feature an 'advertisement' advocating for robot rights? Thought we might as well prepare people for the day when we really have to confront these ethical issues. Just an idea!
Cereal Killer · 2016-06-25 12:00
So I have a few ideas of where I can take an article I want to submit, but I want to know how interested you guys might be (they're sort of heavy subject). So before I submit I'd like to know which one would be received the best?
1) Tutorial on OpenCV + Python object tracker (intro to object/pre-facial recog).
2) How to create a javascript bot net (arpspoof, privoxy, iptables, apache + mod_expire)
3) How to create a usb file scraper (your friend plugs their usb in your laptop) (Udev, data exfiltration general).
All of these are partially completed and rather lengthy, is there a limit to the article lenght?
[Z] · 2016-06-25 14:36
>>3721
how do i contact junk? i'd like to know if i could submit a short panel strip with the potential of an ongoing update...
Morpheus · 2016-06-26 10:12
>>3841
I'd appreciate the first one.
You can always split into multiple parts if it were to be too long.
Bobby Newmark · 2016-06-26 18:23
>>3841
Shit I want to read all of this. Programming/technical tutorials are always my favorite articles in the zine.
On another note, it would be cool to see some fictional advertising. Maybe some shady products like hacking software, botnets or maybe Celts Radio Stream. Would really add up to the /cyb/ feeling. I would love to help but I'm pretty shit at writing.
Trinity · 2016-06-26 20:25
>>3843
email junk0@openmailbox.org , or set up an account and upload it to this bad boy:
https://gitla.in/lainzine/lainzine-4
I can't log in to anything until monday night, after which you might be able to catch me in the irc. I won't be able to check junk0 until I fix my laptop, which is tuesday at earliest. for now we can discuss here
>>3841
all of them? maybe you could send us the one you're closest to finishing for now and we can talk about the others once that's in.
>>3831
>>3856
we've been discussing ad-like content since the first lainzine release, I can see if any of our illustrators are up for it but it would be neat if someone sent them in. is that image the PSA?
Netrunner · 2016-06-27 01:37
shit, someone already did something mathy and they did it better than me ;_;
Sabo Engle · 2016-06-28 08:14
junk post your pgp key ffs
Niles · 2016-06-29 02:06
>>3871
dude your submission is going on a public git server as soon as junk receives it, who cares if it's encrypted in transport.
but I agree he should publish his gpg key
Junk · 2016-06-29 03:11
>>3872
that's actually a good point, we started using the public git because nobody seemed against it, but if someone doesn't want their work to be shared before the release we can make it private
my key fingerprint is AECC30E3
Cowboy · 2016-06-29 07:45
>>3872
>who cares if it's encrypted in transport.
I don't use pgp for encryption I just use it for signing. (mostly)
plus he signs his messages so...
Mitnick · 2016-07-19 06:01
>>3875
>we started using the public git because nobody seemed against it, but if someone doesn't want their work to be shared before the release ...
Kind of takes some of the fun out of it, don't you think?
Trinity · 2016-07-24 06:01
>>3841
USB file scraper sounds really interesting,
Ein · 2016-07-24 20:09
It'd be great, if someone will write about what math good for, practical math in CS/electronics/music and so on.
Mitnick · 2016-07-26 20:54
>>4020
The best example I always think of when someone asks such is DSP. You can't really code any effect without math unless 99% of the work is done and you are only using a complete framework. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxWwb-b9LnpBlOOvwGRpymL09j08lFARb
Project 2501 · 2016-07-27 04:12
I wrote an article on increasing lock security for cheap/free and sent it to the junk0@openmailbox.org but I haven't received a reply yet. Should I assume he hasn't gotten it and try to send again, or should I just wait?
Junk · 2016-07-29 23:01
>>4041
Hey, I got this article a while ago. Sorry for being silent on you guys, I've been waiting for a few more pieces which probably aren't gonna come in at this point.
>>3989
Maybe I'll make the project private until release. Anyone against that?
Agent Richard Gill · 2016-08-01 18:03
Not sure if my article is among the accepted ones for Lainzine 4, specially since it's the first article I write and it could be improved in many ways.
Anyway, I'll post it here just in case it doesn't get's published so any of you guys can read it.
My article is about how to create a homemade stun gun, this is the stun gun I built using the instructions provided in the article:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wLurOnerd8
Stopwatch · 2016-08-02 14:26
>>4052
>Maybe I'll make the project private until release.
Do it! (can you make just an open upload only folder, no downloading?) if people want the info they should wait for the zine!
Or else the zine brings nothing if all have read the articles!
Case · 2016-08-07 08:21
Would you be interested in an essay about decision theory more on a practical level? Something about how to decide what to do when the shit hits the fan and maybe how to proactively keep the shit from hitting the fan? It is not directly tech-related, but useful knowledge in a /cyb/ context all the same.
Is there a deadline set by now? I have some stuff going on in meatspace, so i don't know when i will be able to write the essay, if there is interest.
Batou · 2016-08-07 09:36
>>4094
Can't speak for everyone, but I'd definitely be interested.
Terzibashjian · 2016-08-07 12:14
>>4094
I'd appreciate it a lot, too. Please write.
Cutter · 2016-08-07 13:40
Go for it sempai
Sabo Engle · 2016-08-09 14:00
I wrote what was supposed to be a blogpost about reverse engineering a particular website to build a scraper for it, and uncovering its horrors in the process.
Sadly I never found the willpower to write a static site generator, nor the money to rent a server to host a live blog, so it's been sitting there for a while.
Would it be good material for the Zine? I was thinking about cleaning it up and submitting it for this issue. It contains some images, but with the new layout it shouldn't be a problem, right?
Junk · 2016-08-10 00:48
>>4117
sounds perfect. Send it in!
Junk · 2016-08-12 02:10
Update: lainzine 4 now has at least 14 separate pieces included in it. Because this is a lot of pieces, we -might- have to hold off on some and put them in the next zine. If any, we haven't decided what pieces those would be, but if you're an author we'll get in touch with you about it.
We will likely hold off the latest submitted pieces, going backwards in time. If you submitted before LZ3 got released, and didn't see your piece in LZ3, we will definitely put it in LZ4.
Thank you for all of your hard work and for sticking with us!
>>4094
I forgot to reply! We would also love to have this piece, please send it in if you've written it.
>>4060
It was, we're currently revising it.
>>4070
Gotcha. Heads up for anyone who's working on git, I'm gonna do that.
Dr. X · 2016-08-13 23:45
>>3875
short keyids are trivial to spoof, post the fingerprint or long id
Liet-Kynes · 2016-08-17 00:14
>>4137
nobody's going to try generating 2147483648 different key pairs to spoof Junk's id
Shogun · 2016-08-17 20:11
>>4131
Now that your doing printed version group buys is there a specific page range you shooting for?
Tequila · 2016-08-19 10:45
are their any plans to do an ebook friendly version of the zine? pdf's can really suck to read on kindle.
Lady Jessica · 2016-08-19 19:27
>>4159
Why not convert it yourself? There's plenty of programs for converting different ebook formats. A pretty good one is Calibre.
Void · 2016-08-19 20:21
I would love to write something about pirateboxes and the uses of them. Is there any interest?
Ivan · 2016-08-20 20:47
>>4159
What's the status of epub and friends in 2016? I remember playing with it in ~2010 and it was utter crap. Although, if I understand correctly, it's pretty much just compressed HTML+CSS, so if there's demand, we might do it.
Also, there's a text release of the third issue if that makes anything easier.
>>4161
Yeah, definitely.
HELIOS · 2016-08-21 09:20
>>4159
http://willus.com/k2pdfopt/
Cutter · 2016-08-25 00:45
Is there a guesstimated deadline for LZ4?
The Plague · 2016-08-26 16:32
Can 2 page spreads be avoided? Since this is a digital magazine, it doesn't make much sense to have that type of design unless readers are expected to print out color copies of the zine just to be able to view things.
Morpheus · 2016-08-27 02:38
>>4203
Actually I really enjoyed the two page spreads, and not just for physical copies. Makes it look like a lot of work went into it. The zine would be shittier without them
Splicer · 2016-08-27 12:23
Are there any restrictions on the number of pages our submission takes?
Junk · 2016-08-28 17:50
>>4161
Yes!
>>4198
All future submissions will go into lainzine 5
>>4208
4-5 pages
Bobby Newmark · 2016-08-28 18:11
>>4230
> 4-5 pages
Whops. I get 12 pages (if i render my markdown to pdf) and my article is not yet finished. I have a lot of code pieces and don't know how to throw that away.
What do?
Judge Fang · 2016-08-28 19:39
>>4231
I'm in a similar issue and my plan was to split the article across Lainzines contiguously or as I finished them.
Hagbard Celine · 2016-08-28 20:03
>>4232
I can't split my article. Its just like how-to - from simple lines of code, to some more complex stuff. It's just a problem with listings - they take more than the half of all pages. Maybe i just need to restructure that. Otherwise i do not know how to refer to code i trying to explain.
From the other view my article now contains just 3530 words. Maybe it is just markdown2pdf who renders it to 12 pages?
Drifter · 2016-08-28 20:06
>>4206
Then how do you view the spreads? Because if I go into the 2 page view on my laptop or phone or tablet them I can't read the text. "It looks nice" is not a good enough reason to make something unreadable imho.
The Phantom Phreak · 2016-08-29 06:01
>>4234
Currently it isn't unreadable in one page mode, nothing preventing you from using it like that. The spreads should stay
STOPWATCH · 2016-08-29 16:47
>>4198
I'm on it... sorry been a troublesome time...
(Junk - I will have something soon)
>>4203
It can - view as single page... :)
>>4206
Yes a lot of work! - thanks for the like!
>>4234
Use a real screen?
Its 4K ready.... are you?
Personally I feel having strong print issue is a must - it makes it a tangible physical item that works without hardware!
Easy to leave and spread, also brings it an easy to recognizable style and strong presentation.
Convert to any and all formats, for sure, but I'll leave that to other Lains.
Case · 2016-08-29 17:40
>>4238
Does that mean what i'm late with submission for LZ4?
Shogun · 2016-08-29 17:46
>>4239
You are just in time with submissin for LZ5!!!
Wintermute · 2016-08-29 17:50
>>4240
Ok. This means I have more time to finish my work. Something like 3 more months, right?
J.C. Denton · 2016-09-07 11:58
Hey would anyone be interested in an intro article about FPGAs and digital logic for the LZ5?
Mentat · 2016-09-08 00:31
>>4280
Of course.
STOPWATCH · 2016-09-08 23:47
>>3721
So sorry for the delay - I'm trying to get the first draft done in the next couple of Hrs - emails to Junk to follow very soon!
Pulse · 2016-09-09 00:54
IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ON THEBACK PAGE SUBMITIT NOW!
Can I get a list of people for the thanks/back page page?
known: Junk0, kalyx(?) アウト.
also if anyone can speak Russian we wish to share this message Благодаря от наших российских друзей!
fsociety · 2016-09-09 04:55
>>4289
> Благодаря от наших российских друзей!
If you want it to be "Thanks from our Russian friends!" then it should be "Спасибо от наших русских друзей!"
If you want "Thanks to our Russian friends!" then it should be "Спасибо нашим русским друзьям!"
Cowboy · 2016-09-09 16:24
>>4280
I would also like it, please be kind and do us the favor.
Mitnick · 2016-09-12 16:01
>>4238
>Use a real screen?
>Its 4K ready.... are you?
Seriously? Sorry, I thought this was a cyberpunk forum where not all of us were rich and could afford the latest hardware or carry around large iPad Pros.
>Personally I feel having strong print issue is a must - it makes it a tangible physical item that works without hardware!
....so not for the wired then, eh?
Cereal Killer · 2016-09-13 03:56
>>4319
>not all of us were rich and could afford the latest hardware
It works fine on a normal 1080HD monitor.
And works fine on the wired, as well as offline...
People are spending $ printing this!
Ok phones are not so good... but then they are phones... and you can zoom and flick around well enough, just about.
Project 2501 · 2016-09-13 04:18
>>4322
>a normal 1080HD monitor
Hey, everybody! Take a look at Richie Rich over here!
Tank · 2016-09-13 14:02
>>4323
its 2016 sort it out!
Bit less than a 2nd hand x61...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-Cinema-Display-23-/331969293487?hash=item4d4ae96caf:g:s3IAAOSwdIFX1~Ks
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Computer-Screen-24-/252536083405?hash=item3acc52d3cd:g:CqgAAOSwGtRX1nF1
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CTX-24-1920x1200-monitor-/222248110072?hash=item33bf0507f8:g:JwAAAOSwHoFXr0Cb
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-BenQ-FP241W-Widescreen-24-LCD-Monitor-great-condition-fully-working-/282154487420?hash=item41b1b7ce7c:g:hq0AAOSwMgdXxVTY
(US is probably cheeper)
Alice Miyuki · 2016-09-15 05:30
what about audio/music contributions? is the zine audio-friendly?
it is possible to sync a piece of music to a written piece of text.
Neo · 2016-09-15 09:13
>>4330
Sync audio with reading? - i guess its a bit dependent on how fast you read?
Special Agent Bob · 2016-09-15 19:29
ill just leave this here for material. Its from metal gear solid 2, kojima's prophesy of modern world,
Phantom pain tells same story, with more details of how modern world destroys culture of second world countries, by replacing language, you alter very meaning of words, you alter way how people think. These people lose what is most important for them as a race, its new way to win war without shooting a single bullet.
"It is no nation we inhabit, but language.
Make no mistake; our native tongue is our true fatherland"