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News sites and blogs
Miho Iwakura · 2019-01-19 17:09
What news sites/blog/etc do you read? Of course would be nice if the site had its rss feed and wasn't cloudflared. Also general news and blog discussions, cause why not.
I personally read:
News:
https://www.aljazeera.com - very little soykafty articles, mostly political stuff, a biased a bit against Israel
https://www.ecns.cn - chinese state news, some trash, but also a good way to follow what happens in soon the most important country on earth
https://www.rt.com - needs no comment, perfect news site
http://presstv.ir - Iran news, also quite good and not much bullsoykaf and VERY critical towards us
https://en.wikinews.org/ - TRULY OBJECTIVE NEWS.
https://theintercept.com/ - lmao Snowden
Blogs/opinion pieces:
https://jacobitemag.com - a bit of acceletiaronist bullsoykaf, nice satire on sjws and alt-right/lite
http://n-gate.com - Commentaries on tech propaganda from HN
Ivan Horvat · 2019-01-19 17:51
>>2985
>al jazeera
>rt
I see a lot of people talk about and share but have never really read them out of a natural mistrust of state-owned media. They normally seem quite well-written and impartial though.
I've recently been recommended Reuters, which I quite like because they seem to be pretty strict on writing impartially. The polls on their website seem to show a pretty even divide of "left" and "right" in its reader base too. I haven't really been reading it long enough to make my mind up on it though.
Unnamed · 2019-01-19 19:10
>>2986
thing about al jazeera and rt is that you know what their biases are and you know where they do manipulate
reuters blocks Tor (for me at least) therefore I do not read it, but I think it is a very good news source if you do not have a problem with that
Leto Atreides I · 2019-01-19 19:11
I primarily just read Politico for news on Washington and the Economist for world news. If you didn't already know you can get by the Economist's paywall by just blocking javascript. It doesn't break any other of the site's features.
Ender · 2019-01-19 19:18
>>2986
reuters has been one of my go-to sites for years now. mainly because they are more interested in describing market based news (i.e. how a news story is going to affect the markets) than trying to put a slant on news itself . They might put a corporate slant on something like "this may cause the price of blah to increase because..." but they will report the facts generally without bias.
RT and ALjazeera have their uses, but on some topics they are unreliable (i.e. reporting propaganda) Ironically, RT actually reported on the NSA way before snowden got famous for his leaks, so sometimes they do in face have truth in their articles. I generally avoid a source on topics that they have a vested interest in skewing the facts. That also means I dont trust the BBC when it comes to certain political topics (since it does have a pro-britania stance)
The Guardian tends to be relatively unbiased too, or at least it used to be.
I try to avoid FOX/CNN or any other American media since they are more interested in story speculation than story reporting.
Emmanuel · 2019-01-19 19:27
>>2990
if ye know the way to use reuters through tor then I am thankful. The problem with theguardian is that they give way too much normal person bullsoykaf.
I dont read major anglo(American, British) magazines as their stances are the norm in our (western) world.
Nguoi La · 2019-01-19 19:35
I haven't heard of the n-gate one, thanks. Also found it hilarious how the site reminds you to uninstall Comic Sans (see source code).
Demeere · 2019-01-19 19:44
>>2991
I see... you can probably just run with cookies disabled on a regular browser, but idk about running it on TOR.
another resource someone told me about IIRC was called newsmap, which brings up a grid that shows the most read news articles on the internet by size (more popular articles are bigger).
https://mideast.liveuamap.com/ used to have really good crowdsourced news by geographic area (EUROPE/AMERICA/MIDDLE EAST/ASIA), and topic (security/civil rights/terrorism/political breaking news) but it looks like the site is behind a paywall now. They also used to report the locations of military action and conflict updates as well as aircraft movements/missions and UAV sightings.
John Rain · 2020-01-20 20:38
This is a news website run by an organization founded by a wealthy Romanian Bitcoin owner; the organization calls itself The Most Serene Republic:
http://qntra.net
There's an obvious bias against the US and it has an RSS feed. Someone here may find it amusing to read occasionally.
Dr. X · 2020-01-21 03:58
Associated Press and Reuters are where many other news outlets get their raw news before creatively spinning it. AP doesn't block Tor, doesn't need javascript or cookies, and is freely available, so that's my first choice for news. DW in Germany is good for the European Perspective. NY Times is available via onion service. Ycombinator and Ars Technica are good tech news sites. Phys.org for science news. Privacy International has an onion address.
No clodflare, no javashit, no cookies...
https://apnews.com/
https://www.dw.com/
https://www.nytimes3xbfgragh.onion/
https://news.ycombinator.com/
https://arstechnica.com/
https://phys.org/
https://privacyintyqcroe.onion/
Switch · 2020-01-21 17:01
>>2988
>thing about al jazeera and rt is that you know what their biases are and you know where they do manipulate
There is a lot to be said for this. I'd also point out that reading news that is biased against you will make those biases more obvious than if it is biased in your favor.
fsociety · 2020-02-23 13:12
>>2990
>Guardian
Certainly not anymore
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2019-09-11-how-the-uk-security-services-neutralised-the-countrys-leading-liberal-newspaper/amp/?fbclid=IwAR1CPmOE5lZ8H0FnSc1fwX6J89KOPHH3YdVZKxDSW5atbM_6IbwexYwPido
Plus they've fully jumped on the Social justice train and endorsed censorship (suppose that's obvious,they go hand in hand).
Void · 2020-02-23 16:21
I don't browse news sources as much as I used to but one that I like to browse is https://zerohedge.com their comments are filled with p0l users and homicidal tendency naz!s but they report on things that most news source are not talking about.
Apoc · 2020-02-24 02:22
>>4240
It's just a hipster infowars
>>4113
You're making it sound more complex than it seems, it is a good exercise taking a random news and see what angle they are trying to push. This way you can grow confidence and stay in control instead of fearing manipulation just because you want to stay informed.
That said too much news is a timesink, regardless of how neutral is your source.
Ein · 2020-02-24 02:23
All news has corporate bias. Not worthy of consideration.
The Phantom Phreak · 2020-02-24 03:05
The Associated Press and Reuters are probably your best options for straight up news. Any organisation with a lot of awards (Pulitzers, Peabodys, etc.) is also probably worth a look. The Economist also has a very good style guide that's great for topics you may be unfamiliar with.
Sunday Sport is good for a sensible chuckle
Technician · 2020-02-24 04:06
>>4245
>neurosuggesting prizes by people for people involved in a corrupt industry are a demarcation of trustworthiness
your metrics are extremely skewed. truth doesn't come from self-serving self-congratulatory bodies.
Crazy Jake · 2020-02-24 04:25
>>4246
What are your guidelines?
Drano · 2020-02-24 04:31
>>4247
Here's a list of guidelines I follow to ensure I'm not getting ratfucked.
1. I don't trust anything from anonymous sources.
2. It must be corroborated by a minimum of five sources across the political spectrum.
3. Read all original sources and be aware of spin.
4. Consult user-generated sites like twattar to find out of people are actually saying/doing what is being claimed (protests, political speech, etc.)
5. Assume you're being lied to. Seriously, there's never an objective examination, and spinning is lying.
6. All sources have some fashion of bias, identify it using sites like "allsides" and your own judgement.
7. Photos or it didn't happen.
8. Never ever ever trust sites with a consistent ideological spin. They will impair your ability to make a sound judgement.
9. Prefer first-hand sources and primary documents to news reporting. If they're not provided, do the work and find them.
There's undoubtedly more that aren't coming to mind in a useful format, but these should help you.
Cat Mother · 2020-02-24 04:32
>>4248
Jesus fuarrrk I forgot the golden rule:
If you agree with it, be extra skeptical.
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2020-02-24 05:35
>>2985
News:
https://www.mintpressnews.com/ -independent very slow,only few articles per week but they are very in-depth .
Blogs/opinion pieces:
https://www.corbettreport.com/ - one of the best bloggers on the internet & very active.He is an anarchist .
https://truthstreammedia.com/ -Aaron & Melissa Dykes used to work for alex jones (they quit after jones went crazy ) they make videos about some very interesting topics like cybernetics, eugenics etc
Richard Grove - this guy has some amazing interviews but does not post often ,also he was a SEC whistleblower , check out the John Taylor Gatto interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8&list=PL463AA90FD04EC7A2&pbjreload=10
SHODAN · 2020-02-24 05:36
>lefty news
let's have some balance
http://drudgereport.com/
https://www.breitbart.com/
HELIOS · 2020-02-29 20:07
Media bias chart. The more reliable news sources tend to be the least politically biased, which is why the chart looks like a pyramid. According to this, Associated Press is about the least biased and most reliable news service.
Pris · 2020-03-02 23:15
>>4292
NPR is very much pro-corporate propaganda, particularly when it comes to Wall Street. NPR is controlled opposition. Any chart that describes NPR as a relatively-unbiased news source is a chart that's full of errors.
"But what about Democracy Now?" some may ask. Fun fact: NPR only rebroadcasts DN, they don't fund it - and the number of NPR stations it's rebroadcast on has been dwindling.
Lunch · 2020-03-03 01:32
>>2985
I used to find geekologie to be a fun site before it changed (and the writer did too). I left it alone long ago but aside from it's humor it also alerted me to new things back in the day. Everything from zombie jerky to actual jetpacks. Eventually he's no longer funny, you can't tell what's real, and you also get enough of a jaded realist that you lose faith in technology. So yeah, goodbye.
Also it became bloatware.
rip you loon
Ender · 2020-03-04 00:10
>>4292
>Jacobin less hyper-partisan left than MSNBC
>Weather Channel reliable (i mean it comes with the territory though)
Pshh yeah okay
Arisu Mizuki · 2020-03-04 04:33
>>4318
Agreed. Anyone who thinks that MSNBC is anywhere on the "left" needs to have their head examined. MSNBC is straight-up plutocratic establishment propaganda. Their worship of Wall Street knows no bounds.
Marly Krushkhova · 2020-03-04 05:42
>>4292
I've always just ignored the Christian Science Monitor based on the name alone, so I'm pretty surprised at how high/middle it is on this chart.
Unless this chart is just complete BS, which is probably the case.
Acid Burn · 2020-03-15 03:28
The Financial Times. I pay for it.
Jet Black · 2020-03-15 10:53
>>4319
Perhaps a derail, but isn't liberal / leftism / neolib pretty mixed up in the general US perception despite being pretty different things ? This could explain how that chart came to be. Also it is rather hard to put more than two to three dimensions on such a chart, so it may be just the wrong approach to classify something like news-sources onto it.
Perhaps a list of criteria would be better suited to get an idea of where the news-source is going.
For example :
Ownership : Privately owned / State owned
- Money source ? (Especially transparency )
- State funds ( Quantity ?/ Terms and conditions ? )
- Donations (Public ? Big private Entity ? )
- Ties to industry ?
- Government control of media in that country ?
- Ads ?
Quality Factors :
-Vocabulary / length of articles, typos
- Size of the organization
- Correction issuance
- updates on stories
- Dealing with internal fiascos ( like the spiegel )
Audience / Targets :
- Goals ? ( Country internal ? Critical take on gov ? Broadcast official stance ? Blog for fun ? )
- Targeted audience ? (Markets, Literate Person on a topic, public ... )
- Secondary or Primary news ? (Did a journalist take a mic in hand or copy paste what other journos did ? )
- Targeted topics ( In-depth reporting ? General quick overview ? )
Additional points could be for political blogs / news-source what stances they back for the biggest issues. (Pro-X ? Contra-X ? )
With such factors it becomes rather clear if the media is something you wish to read or not.
Of course there might be cases where such classification is not feasible, or need to be done on a per journalist basis instead of a whole publication.
On the main topic, I use RSS feeds in my daily commute.
I mostly get news from German / Swiss news (tageschau.de / SRF International).
Then there are tech oriented news sources for obvious reasons (Heise / Register ).
Some bloggers / smaller sites like netzpolitik.org / blog.fefe.de which often point out how the German gov fuaarks it up again, especially on digital issues.
One user contributed website (HN) is added to get an overview on what is discussed in the tech world and sometimes discover stuff or new tech blogs for entertainment.
Some other techie political blogs are added like Stallman or ESR, but mostly to have some completely contradicting but consistent worldviews added.
The rest is mostly small tech blogs telling their advances on subject or giving technical details on some topics, so entertainment.
The main thing that get me in my RSS are non news like sport events, or celebrities getting crammed in international news, like if a election, or a new law are on the same level of importance than some athletic competition or a regularly scheduled event that is common knowledge. (dropped BBC int because of that). This gets me pretty frustrated with my third issue.
Also another reason to drop a feed is simply if there is too much contradicting takes on one subject by the same source, instead of corrections, or explaining the source of the conflict in the information they are giving. (Stuff like RT on the Skripal)
The Last is repetitive news. If you have two similar news-feed in different languages (heise / the register) you will get the same news again, but with the same stance so this brings very little value. I do not know yet of a way to avoid this, as dropping one of the news sources would make me miss a lot of topics the other one do not cover.
Cowboy · 2020-08-04 07:21
RT is the worst.
Mario Rossi · 2020-08-04 08:08
>>5080
I tend to agree. Those who mistrust the Western/American media, mainly the so called 'alt-right' types of people flock to this news source, which represents the stances and views of the Russian government. I myself tend to the right, but I simply do not get those people who like and promote such news sources. Furthermore, the state owns it, which further establishes my suspicion.
Elliot Alderson · 2020-08-04 08:38
>>4319
Yeah. The source of the confusion is that in the US—and many other countries—the left died decades ago. There is no left. Capital has acquired its dried and preserved skin, though, and wears it—making absurd gesticulations about identity politics and other hyper-divisive issues to rile up emotions and keep everyone bickering about things that don't ultimately matter. Of course they never resolve these intentionally-ridiculous issues. They keep them flapping around in your face, year after year. Anything to keep people from broaching the subject of material conditions.
The "left" is a pantomime, a farce. It's just Wall Street like you say... siphoning blood from the poor and scamming the entire world. But this time one of them is like a token gay brownish woman who is committing the atrocities against mankind, so it's progressive or whatever.
Unspecified · 2020-08-04 08:53
>>5080
Not any worse than crap like BBC, CNN, MSNBC... In fact RT hosts a number of decent journalists who used to be employed at those places but were banished for having principles.
Vasya Pupkin · 2020-08-04 08:58
>>2992
Ha I love n-gate, it's hilarious.
Zhora · 2020-08-04 10:01
These days I just read the comment section of wccftech.com and that's about it. Investigative journalism is deader than dead and the media seems more interested in manipulating people, as do the people who post news on chans.
Used to be that news was tailored to the subscribers. That was the golden age of journalism. But people found free news sources on the internet and stopped subscribing. Now the media is owned by advertisers and whoever else is funding and they decide what kind of stories are published. And since all the real journalists were fired due to budget cuts years ago all they have left is some interns copying articles from sites like AP and Reuters while giving them their own spin. Or they take something that someone said on twitter or reddit and decide that it's news somehow. We are now in actual dark age of journalism.
All the globalization doesn't help either. I'm supposed to care about a video of some Americans taking the knee or not during a football game when we're on the other side of the atlantic ocean? Yet we've had dozens of George Floyd protests over here thanks to the media's "faithful and unbiased" reporting. And to think these people will bitch about America's supposed bad influence on the world while taking everything bad about America and projecting it in their own countries.
But I digress. fuarrrk the media. If you want to have a giggle check out the comment section of wccftech. It's the only media I can recommend.
Technician · 2020-08-04 12:34
I deliberately avoid reading the news. I don't know what's going on anywhere except major stuff e..g Coronavirus but I can safely replace all that info with the assumption that things are getting worse and worse and there is nothing I can do about it.
Molly Millions · 2020-08-04 19:35
stallman.org
itsgoingdown
my mastodon feed
Emmanuel · 2020-08-04 20:30
>>2988
Of all the sites to block tor I would have expected Reuters to not be one of them. They no doubt rely on it internally for reporting on authoritarian regimes and being able to access news sources as an end-user from within states with heavy internet filtering is one of the heavily advertised use cases for tor.
To then have one of the largest news networks just block it seems bizarre and counterproductive to me, many other news companies seem to understand the purpose of tor and even host their own hidden services. I like reuters as a source and is one of the few sites I visit on the clearnet but I really wish they would change this awful policy.
Undisclosed · 2020-08-08 23:00
What software do you use to read rss feeds? Is there any advantage to having a dedicated program over using an email client (thunderbird)?
Also, I imagine news sites can harvest the same information by serving news articles through rss than by having people visit theirs sites in a browser, is this correct?
Sorry for asking to be spoonfed.
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2020-08-10 00:07
>>5084
I had never heard of n-gate before this thread. It's absolutely glorious. The crack about Google's business model being "Uber for shutdowns" completely cracked me up for a solid minute.
Neo · 2020-08-10 00:22
>>4111
I never did mention this shut down, until now. Here's the continuation:
http://mvdstandard.net
Cutter · 2020-08-10 00:32
>>5113
I self host miniflux. Ive used lots of desktop style RSS readers but I've come to appreciate a browser-based solution for two main reasons:
* no need to worry about syncing across devices since it lives entirely on my home server
* news articles tend to display better in a browser since thats how they're intended to be viewed in the first place, and the sites that only give you previews with links rather than full text in the actual RSS feed are less annoying when youre already in a browser.
>I imagine news sites can harvest the same information by serving news articles through rss than by having people visit theirs sites in a browser, is this correct?
Its not nearly as bad as visiting their website. The threat profile is similar to email.
Liet Kynes · 2020-08-11 13:13
>>2985
Maybe it's just me but I hate traditional/modern forms of informations. It's just straight up bullshit. Everyone is trying to bring grist to their mill to the point it's just utterly pointless. Maybe it's my isolationist side speaking but I don't know why any sane person would enjoy being bombarded my mindless bullshit that doesn't impact his day to day life in the slightest.
Lunch · 2020-08-11 13:16
>>2989
>If you didn't already know you can get by the Economist's paywall by just blocking javascript
Do you know any other website that does this? Unfortunately most of them have dumb paywalls you can't get around.
Joey · 2020-08-11 13:47
>>5136
If the site loads the article in the background and then puts a overlay in front then you can probably bypass it that way. Another thing to look out for are those sites that give you a certain number of free page views per month or whatever. You can get past those by clearing/blocking cookies (or using a private browsing window).
Void · 2020-08-11 14:21
>>5136
>>5137
Another way to get around paywalls is using RSS.
Leto Atreides I · 2020-08-11 14:48
>>5138
I love RSS, but I thought most sites with paywalls also paywall their RSS. Is that not typically the case?
Nemissa · 2020-08-11 14:54
>>5138
Which program do you guys use for RSS feed?
Incognito · 2020-08-11 15:11
>>5140
See >>5123 if you want something browser based that you can self host. Newsbeuter/newsboat is dead simple and runs in your terminal. I know many email clients (thunderbird in particular) can fetch and display RSS feeds, which might be convenient if you're a "morning coffee check email and read the news" kind of guy. Someone else can probably recommend a good traditional GUI client but Ive never really used them.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2020-08-11 18:14
>>5140
I use Inoreader (browser-based), it's comfy, though probably the alternatives provided by other lainon can do better.
Cypher · 2020-08-12 09:40
>>5080
This, I don't see how anyone could read that crap with with all that alt-right bias. Objective media truly doesn't exist, everything is being manipulated and tries to push a narrative.
Project 2501 · 2020-08-12 13:48
>>5149
>I don't see how anyone could read that crap with with all that alt-right bias
>Objective media truly doesn't exist
Kind of answered your own question didn't you? Everything is biased so you just read multiple sources and factor their various biases into your analysis of them.
Also calling RT "alt right" is laughably simplistic. I think you may want to examine the biases of your own sources of information if you truly buy into the whole "Russia and Putin are BFFs" thing.
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2020-08-12 13:50
>>5150
>Russia and Putin
Whoops I mean Trump and Putin
Armitage · 2020-08-13 13:15
>>4292
This chart is so bad. It gets left and right completely wrong and puts fuarrrking MSNBC further left than politico
Debbie Charteris · 2020-08-13 13:26
>>5156
Also it completely neglects the value of good opinionated analysis. The vertical axis conflates whether or not something contains factual innaccuracies with whether or not it takes a position or offers analysis beyond the basic facts, which are two completely different issues.
Dozer · 2020-08-13 16:48
>>4292
>Truthout right next to a fuarrrking rag like Daily Kos
This image is pure propaganda.