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Plato and his dialogues

Roy Batty · 2018-10-18 10:12
Are any Lains reading the dialogues? Which five are your favourite ones? Reading Euthryphro atm.
Six · 2018-10-18 12:13
Got pdf or epub preferably? No i havent, but i meant to ask is the image you posted a real program? Cuz it looks cool, would like more info if you have.
Koichiro · 2018-10-18 13:36
>>2694 https://ello.co/darokin/post/ht13w-z3htnp-dp8p1pvrw Don't know the origin, sadly. Looks like an MS-DOS program. Thought it was cool and related to the subject, so i posted it. https://webs.ucm.es/info/diciex/gente/agf/plato/The_Dialogues_of_Plato_v0.1.pdf
Eldon Tyrell · 2018-10-18 14:23
I've read all the legitimate dialogues at least once, with the exception the letters. Endeavouring to read Plato's whole corpus is one of the most worthwhile things I've done, even if it took much longer than excepted. Almost every dialogue is worth mulling over and reading twice. Plato's ideas have appeared countless times over the course of history, yet he remains thoroughly unlike any of those who've followed in his footsteps. The dialogue format allows for a great deal of subtlety and I often get the impression that he is asking the reader to engage with an argument that may not necessarily represent his own views or even think is correct. My recommendations are very pedestrian because I've only only read many of the less well known dialogues once. That said, the dialogues concerning the trial and execution of Socrates (Apology, Crito, Phaedo), and the Symposium are masterpieces that hardly have equal. In addition: Gorgias is the other highly regarded work, it features some very memorable characters and plays host to one of Plato's most famous arguments; that it's better to suffer any injustice than to commit it oneself. Parmenides is interesting for featuring a young Socrates being thrown around in debate. Theaetetus concerns the nature of knowledge itself and is famously difficult to follow. I've read it multiple times and still don't really understand it properly. You may want to tackle this after you already have a grasp on the Platonic forms. The various myths are great fun and well worth reading. Timeaus tells the story of creation and the tale of Atlantis originates in Critias. Others such as the myth of Er and the chariot analogy form part of larger dialogues (Republic and Phaedrus in this case) As a parting remark; if you're intending to read it at all, read The Republic as close to last as you can manage. You'll understand when you do get to it.
Crash Override · 2018-10-18 22:44
I've read most of his dialogues twice and i'm planning on tackling my 4th Translation of Republic soonish (Allan Bloom this time). My favorite 5 are: Republic Gorgias Phaedrus Phaedo Theaetetus With and honorable mention to Euthydemus for being the funniest dialogue. I would somewhat agree with the post above, but i'd recommend reading Republic early and then again much later, as you'll be able see some of nuances in the text that you didn't pick up earlier. Or potentially have an entirely different interpretation of it (hint hint). Stick with Plato and it'll be worth the time invested—he is great for getting you to think about the foundations of your own beliefs on certain subjects, follow him up with Aristotle and you'll have had a better education in critical thinking than most schooling provides.
Delilah · 2018-10-19 13:12
more info on platonic solids AKA perfect shapes https://youtu.be/2s4TqVAbfz4
Guthrie · 2018-10-19 13:16
PD; Heidegger is better.
Tank · 2018-10-19 17:44
definitely not an actual program.
Debbie Charteris · 2018-10-21 01:12
>>2705 Why not?
Dujour · 2018-12-23 00:37
I read Apology on my own twice, didn't get much out of it, had to read Symposium for a class which I really enjoyed and got a lot out of. Read sections of Republic as well, but honestly I don't have much memories of it.
Spooky · 2019-05-03 14:41
What is the best dialogue to start out with? I am completely new to philosophy and I've heard many people say that Plato is a good philosopher to start reading philosophy works.