LainZine 3!

Be a part of History and submit to the Lainzine today! >>>Submission Deadline is November 27<<< Feel free to use any format, however please remember we are making a pdf out of text and image documents. Markdown would be appreciated, but don't let that get in the way of sending in a piece. Also remember that all submissions must be Original Creations written\made by the submitter for the Lainzine. This time around we want to make it clear that we are looking for some help with typesetting. If you want to help contact the emails below. As usual, you can submit pieces to junk0@openmailbox.org tilde@openmailbox.org hex_offender@openmailbox.org and now you can also use our new super bad ass GitLab! http://lainchan.xyz/lainzine (when signing up check your spam folder for activation) Also, we are looking at the idea of printing out the first three volumes as a collection and\or individual volumes so Lainons can order some. What do you think of this idea? Would you be interested in ordering any?

>>2040 >>>>Submission Deadline is November 27<<< Alright. Let's try to meet it this time. I'll gladly start working on my next contribution, but I'm going to just email Junk like I've been doing. >Also, we are looking at the idea of printing out the first three volumes as a collection and\or individual volumes so Lainons can order some. What do you think of this idea? Would you be interested in ordering any? It sounds cool, but it's not something I would want.

>you will never be good enough to submit to lainzine >you are an untalented pawn trapped in a cage

>>2043 it cannot hurt to send something in. we will revise it

Regarding >>>/art/1621 What's the best way to handle source code in submissions? I could make a minimal version which would fit in an article, but the code has evolved since then. Could link to it on my github, but then if I forget it was in the zine and delete the repo in the future, there's a broken link.

>>2046 submit the most updated code so we can have it on the lainzine written out and submit it to the gitlab so we can have a link to it too

What kind of stuff would everyone like to see? I'd love to write something again, but I'm not sure what.

I thought about writing a clear guide about ARP poisoning and how to use it, but maybe it's too obvious and already well documented.

>>2054 write a primer. >>2053 anything but programming

>>2040 I tried to make an account, checked my spam folder, but I'm not getting a confirmation email ;-;

And so it begins!

>>2055 >anything but programming lol'd

Any one good at databending pictures like >>>/art/165 should write a better and lain like tutorial for lainzine3

>>2063 I would love to know how to do that. >>2040 I submitted a piece this morning to junk0@openmailbox.org. Should I include the other addresses?

Is there any limit on the number of submissions?

How about something on anarchism? Seems like a lot of lainons here are anarchists, and it's a topic I'm interested in enough to write about.e

>>2072 Funny you mention that, I was thinking about writing an essay on anarchism as well.

>>2071 Not part of the team publishing the zine, but my publishing experienced showed me that growing too quickly is never a good idea. If the number of pages would clearly exceed 40, I would keep articles for the next volume and improve them. 30-something good pages is quite decent.

>>2055 Why not ?

>>2072 I'd be interested

>>2075 what exactly is the political leanings of this site? Obviously we're not all anarchists but it does seem like there's a general distrust of governments which would make sense of a recurring them of debate and discussion within the zine.

>>2078 kalyx is a capitalist. look at all of his economics books on lit.

>>2072 >>2073 I'd rather not have politics inside the zine.

>>2080 I mean, if it's a guide on how to do some punk stuff or an article about what's wrong with today's society that makes comparisons with some cyberpunk scenarios then it's fine, but writing an essay about anarchism sounds really really lame.

>>2080 That really cripples the zine. Politics is everywhere.

>>2081 >>2082 Maybe an essay just about "anarchism" is too bland for a "Lainzine" I agree but an academic essay like "Anarchy and Cyberpunk" or something along those lines which is more informative than preaching is worth the zine's pages. I think the general vibe should just be "cyberpunk (and other sorts of technologically based 'punks') counter-culture, DIY and anti-authoritarianism" and whoever has something to say relevant to those should have an opportunity for inclusion as long as they can relate it. Just getting on a soapbox and preaching your own brand of anarcho-whatever may be too much, but to give an example, if you were to write an essay on ways lains could still make new computers in a world without government, I think that'd be okay.

If i could say one thing, pertaining to choice of articles in the lainzine Last time, we decided to publish a few stories about crime that some people really disliked. Some people really liked Night Ops, some people thought it was too edgy, especially when compared to the other story that was submitted to us about raiding cabins. The last thing I've ever wanted to do, as editor, is to abridge what people have to say - this paper wouldn't be underground if I did. So, I take all complaints of that nature with a grain of salt. I think that, right now, the lainzine doesn't quite know what it wants to be. So, I'd like to make some suggestions. Not to be authoritarian about it, but to try to give it some direction. What the lainzine seems like to me: First and foremost, a scene, a place for artists and punks to drop lines and pioneer new ideas. A place to share code or protips for cyber peeps What I think we should avoid: Saying things that have been said already. That's what bibliographies are for.

>>2092 > if you were to write an essay on ways lains could still make new computers in a world without government, I think that'd be okay. Well clearly I would relate it back to the themes relevant to Lainchan. Anarchism has a lot of ties to these things, which is why I wanted to write about it. I wasn't going to go with some boring soykaf about how you should follow my particular brand of anarchism or you're reactionary scum. I was thinking more along the lines of talking about using technology to subvert power structures, or something else within that line of thought. I'm also personally interested in relating existentialism and anarchism, and I think there's a lot to be said about the two in relation to modern technology or maybe counter-culture. I'm more interested in exploring ideas than preaching at anybody. Maybe I can work up a draft and see what people think?

>>2096 A draft might help. I wasn't accusing anyone of anything, but rather I was responding to that one lainon's concern about the zine just having a bunch of bland anarchy manifestos that don't really have any relation to the general themes of the site. My best advice is start with a question and ask yourself if this is a question lains would care about one way or another. Don't concern yourself with whether the answer favors anything like anarchism, just find the question and work from there. Again, to use my example, I'd start with a question like "If there's no government, what happens to the internet?" lay out all the possible answers one may give and then explore the viability of each answer based on my research and experience. One thing one of my professors told me that I find valuable is: when you are writing a paper, even if you think you are sure what the answer is, always start with the question and not the answer.

>>2040 I might write something about Evolutionary Algorithms and stuff like that. Would it interest somebody ? For Lainzine 4 I could perhaps continue with Machine Learning and Language Processing (depends on how much I progress on that topic).

>>2099 >I might write something about Evolutionary Algorithms and stuff like that. Would it interest somebody ? I find them interesting, but I already have a good understanding of them, considering the simplicity of the subject. It could still make for an interesting topic.

>>2100 Yeah, it is quite easy. I would prefer to write something about Machine Learning, but I am only starting to understand the practical concepts (read: How to implement one that isn't soykaf to read and execute.). Maybe I can write something this week-end. Is a tex-file okay ?

would anyone like a tutorial on honeypots?

>>2072 I would prefer not to. >>2079 >reading books = agreeing with their content shiggy

>>2099 Try to write as if for a non-programming audience. Include snippets of code but not too much, keep it modest. Try to talk about universal concepts instead. >>2104 >Is a tex-file okay ? Yes.

>>2110 you can also write for a coding audience but at least make sure it is clear what the prerequisites are for the article.

>>2107 sure

>>2080 >>2082 all art is political by nature, as a result you should think about creating a work that serves a purpose beyond its politics (since there will be politics no matter what)

>>2072 to append >>2118 an article on anarchism could be interesting

>>2107 Yes

I'm pretty knowledgeable in religious studies and history, but I'm not sure what I could write that relates to the content of the site. So any suggestions on topics you'd like to read in that area which would fit the zine would be helpful.

>>2040 gitlab confirmation email isn't showing up even in spam

>>2126 Same here as far as history goes Maybe something about how history connects to the digitized/cyberpunk world of today? Industrial Revolution vs. Digital Revolution, something like that

>>2136 Something dealing with a particular religion and maybe a commentary on a particular cyberpunk work from its perspective might be neat as well. Maybe examining something like Serial Experiments Lain in light of the teachings of religious esotericisms?

>>2063 >>2064 I was actually thinking about doing this if i find the time, i think i can give a pretty clear and simple explanation of how databending images works

>>2055 > anything but programming

>>2104 >>2099 can you please write about Evolutionary Algorithms? I would be really interested in that. >>2107 umm. yes.

>>2136 this sounds good.

>>2147 No problem. I should easily meet the deadline. I start writing the article next week™, I promise™.

>>2151 I'm going to procrastinate.

>>2153 You have 2 months... Oh wait that's what I tell myself, then end up writing papers the day before

Where can i get first 2 issues of Lainzine?

>>2169 http://junk.soykaf.org/lainzine/

>>2173 Thank you so much!

>>2173 No, wait, second pdf is broken >>2174-kun

>>2169 >>2173 How about https://lainchan.org/zine/ ?

>>2178 Thanks a lot

>>2180 You're welcome.

hex_offender huh? Reference to something else or simply the pun? >>2178 Is there a bunch of other stuff not indexed on Lainchan like that? (Also, thanks for the link, I'd been wanting a working copy as well.)

>>2182 Well, the link was there until some point. I'm quite a new fag (here since less than 2 months), but at some point there was a "zine" link somewhere among radio, rules and $$. If I find some time, I write a bash script which tries to access all possible combinations.

>>2040 >Also, we are looking at the idea of printing out the first three volumes as a collection and\or individual volumes so Lainons can order some. What do you think of this idea? Would you be interested in ordering any? I'd be interested in buying some physical lainzine(s). Have nothing to contribute that I haven't already seen though.

>>2040 I'd pick up some Lainzines. Some nice quality printing, maybe a bundle with some lain stickers.

I'm contemplating submitting an article based on a talk I did for the local DEF CON chapter on basic Anti-Reversing in software. Would anyone be interested?

>>2191 I know I would like to read that article.

>>2104 are you still doing / have you done this? >>2107 go for it >>2137 spiritual themes in cyberpunk works sounds interesting. not just la >>2136 yes

I've got some nice pieces so far guys but we could always use some more. sorry for not talking to you for a month, in college sorry >>2183 if you do that submit it to the lainzine >>2191 would be hella interested >>2195 I fuarrrked that one up spirituality in cyberpunk media would be great, not just lain I bet ghost in the shell has some nice themes to work with. or you could look towards western media

>>2182 reference to Fisheye Placebo.

>>2196 For the Anti-reversing, would you want the sample code as well as pics of it in action?

>>2198 I'd like that

>>2198 that'd be dope

>>2195 I'm >>2104 I still have an Assignment in Mathematical Logic to hand in and it's taking longer than expected. I hope to be done soon.

>>2040 I would like physical copies! Also, I have some pretty cyb tunes I made, not to get super bloaty, but is there anyway to embed some stream quality audio files in a PDF (maybe?)?

>>2217 been talking about it. send them in and we'll see what we can do

Where can I find information on how this is assembled/built? What kind of markdown is this using?

>>2219 none specified, use whichever markdown you'd like the whole zine is put together by Ivan (ivanthetypesetter@openmailbox.org) who I'm pretty sure uses LaTeX you can email ivan for more details

I wanna illustrate something for the mag either for an article or something that I made up myself just as long as its not super illegal since I kinda want it for my portfolio but a little illegal its fine it would be fun emailed junk

I'm writing about homemade electric weapons (aka tasers) and other kinds of electric defense and I have two questions: 1: Can I write about this? I plan to give detailed information on how to build a taser out of electronic junk. I say this because I don't want anybody who doesn't knows what he's doing to shock himself. I've added a disclaimer just in case. I guess the complexity of the project should be enough to keep newbies from making anything dangerous. 2: It's hard to give instructions about making electronic circuits without using pictures of the components one must find in order to do so and the circuit itself. Could I use some pictures? I would like to include as few as necessary, most of them being lineal drawings and minimal. I would gladly accept advice on how to write this kind of articles in an aesthetically pleasant way. I've been looking for similar articles to get some inspiration.

>>2234 I tried to convert it to line art, but my gimp skills are still lame.

>>2219 We've used InDesign for the first two issues, but have been considering LaTeX since the very beginning. We should be able to pull the trigger for the third issue. I may write a short article about the process once it settles, if I find the time.

>>2236 >proprietary software Why? What's wrong with Scribus?

>>2237 Scribus is shite and I don't know it. I had already had experience with InDesign on the other hand.

>>2237 Why use Scribus, when you can use Turing-complete LaTeX ?

My main source of internet is tethering from my shitty T-Mobile phone. After my first month of data, my data speed gets throttled down to 128Kb/s. However, I have found that not all sites are throttled. For example, SoundCloud doesn't get throttled for some reason (was Net Neutrality supposed to fix this?) Should I write an article on unorthodox methods of file transfer (such as converting binary data to sound to upload to soundcloud, and download from soundcloud) for fun and profit?

>>2248 bonus points if you go into error correcting codes to deal with lossy codecs

>>2234 >1 hell yea you can write about this. we've ran guides on electronics and sketchier soykaf before

>>2234 >2 pictures would be optimal, if you can supply them. if not we have illustrators. >aesthetics IDK how to make it aesthetically pleasing but you can maybe look to the previous lanzines to see what works/doesn't. it would be nice if you submitted in markdown or latex, but it's not a necessity

>>2248 yes please do this. email junk0@opemmailbox.org when you have the chance >>2234 also email junk please

>>2250 Sorry to disappoint, but that doesn't seem very practical or feasible. That's not a problem though, since the download link on soundcloud downloads a file as it was uploaded.

>>2255 You might need it if you use DNS or other protocols that are usually not blocked.

Here's hoping that >>>/cyb/17856 contributes.

>>2256 Now you have me confused. What the fuarrrk are you talking about lainon?

So have you lainons been working? We need more submissions both art submissions and articles.

>>2258 http://code.kryo.se/iodine/

>>2258 That's just an example, BTW, there are more. I thought this was the kind of thing you were talking about until you mentioned Soundcloud.

>>2260 Well, not me personally, but the gf is writing up some soykaf.

>>2272 alright, that works. Any drawlains going to submit some art?

>>2235 actualy you did very well... the only way to get better is to make new grfx by tracing in inkscape.

Are we Using OP's image as the cover? if not, here is a little something that I made quickly. Let me know if it's worth expanding on!

>>2291 we got some artists who are making stuff right now but only 1-2 pics have been sent in so far we will also probably use glitch and 1998AD art from their respective threads

>>2291 I have a concept for a several page comic that would fit the tone of the zine. I'll submit it once it's finished.

>>2093 >this paper wouldn't be underground if I did. Lol please that's not how underground presses operate. If anything, they tend towards much a stronger curatorial role. Yes, you'd be expected to appreciate the artistry of the contributors in a way that the commercial editors don't, but you'd also be much, much stricter with the standards and tone of what you do accept. Don't edit the submissions, but don't have any hesitation to reject them. Thin but dense & focused zines are always preferable over bloated and amateur ones. That said, get ahold of Semiotext(e)'s USA anthology if you can (don't have my copy with me or I'd post pics) - I've heard good things about semiotext(e)'s SF also - for an example of high standard cyberpunk collection coming from the period when it was still fresh, radical and didn't have a self conscious 'cyberpunk' name or stale tropes. Radical being the most important imo - anyone who thinks Gibson and not Burroughs is the godfather of cyberpunk doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>2136 Manuel de Landa's War in the Age of Intelligent Machines is a reference that cannot be ignored on this subject. It was shared here: >>2269

>>2304 >>2260 Are you interested in reprinting archival material? I've been doing research into DIY furniture, mainly from radical architecture groups in the 70s, and have come out with a few easy to build, cheap guides. It's mostly coming from the perspective of nomadic furniture that you can either disassemble and carry with you or cheap enough that you can toss it out/recycle the parts and rebuild it once in your new location. There's also a more radical reoccurring concept for the living cube. A minimalist home space that you can bring with you everywhere so no matter what modern highrise apartment you move into, you can maintain your consistent space(s). Some examples

>>2315 this is very interesting, i'm just a random anon but maybe you could figure out a way to apply some of the knowledge you've gained. this way you could write something up that introduces us to those radical nomadic furniture concepts and also see that the knowledge can lead to practical solutions. also framing it in a cyber context could be cool, i.e. how to build a nomadic structure in an alleyway

>>2315 looks good to me. feel free to send in any of the guides

Yo it's >>2191 Sorry about still having yet to submit it, life hit me like a tonne of bricks and I've not had a chance to write it. I should be able to get it in prior to the deadline though. Just an update.

Gonna write an article about the BATMAN mesh networking protocol, since I'm doing a project on it. How much competition will I be facing? As in, realistically, how likely will my submission be on the zine?

>>2325 If it is original and well written and well informed it will be in there.

>>2326 yes however it will be in lainzine 4. I'm pretty sure we have enough articles for #3, with the exception of maybe one or two if you email soon enough.

>>2322 hey no problem. we'd love to have it whenever you can

>>2236 You people could use the software Lyx[1] if you need a WYSIWYG editor for LaTeX. On Ctan you have already templates to create zines like paperTeX[1] and newspaper[2] packages. Just install with with tlmg. Example on debian: $ sudo apt-get install -y tex-live xzdec && sudo apt-get update $ sudo tlmgr init-usertree && sudo tlmgr install papertex newspaper To use see the documentation, use "texdoc papertex" Here is a example from paperTeX package: http://mirrors.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/papertex/example/example.pdf Shit, I know, but you can change and put all the fancy stuff you guys like... You could also convert the LaTeX archive to HTML using Pandoc[4]. Much more secure than PDF format, that have lots[5] of vulnerabilities and is extremely bloated. Or you can generate at least a postscript file $ pdflatex -output-format=dvi example.tex && dvips example.dvi The HTML would also, of course, support webm videos and audio files like ogg... The LaTeX font rendering is the best available at the moment. You can also activate the package "microtype" for even better quality: $ sudo tlmg install microtype /* Then add to your example.tex the following*/ \usepackage{microtype} /*Use pdflatex to generate the file*/ $ pdflatex example.tex [1] http://www.lyx.org/ [2] https://www.ctan.org/pkg/papertex [3] http://www.ctan.org/pkg/newspaper [4] http://pandoc.org/ [5] http://www.malwaretracker.com/piepdf2.php

If we have enough articles, then should we just make the deadline earlier?

Mentioned this on IRC a little while back, and have been planning on posting here for a while, I just forgot. I work for a company that has an industrial printer and a spiral binder so if there was actual interest in physical copies I could easily make some. I'd even consider donating a few to be sold to keep the servers running.

>>2365 very interested. email junk

>>2040 I would be interested in order the volumes, if they're available for Europe.

>>2371 >>2372 Lemme play with some numbers and see what I can do, tomorrow I'll get on the IRC and ask around, too. Then I'll need to hammer down paper weights, cover weight etc. etc. etc.

>>2362 I know all of this but thanks anyway.

>>2394 If you know LaTeX, why the fuarrrk do you keep using the soykaf from Adobe? You are just prejudicing this community spreading bloated archives in pdf. If you don't have time to do it, just leave it to other people.

>>2395 Adobe is industry standard and pretty much unavoidable if you are trying to make a document accessible to a number of people ~ we have to study its programs at University which I think is total soykaf but they are adamant it is necessary.

Hi Lainzine, I've had a lot on the mind and wrote a thing. You may publish it if you'd like. Joy There's something I've often wondered, whether true only God could tell. Turn to the soulless scourge below; Do you think they know Joy as well? My friend, I'm afraid you've blundered; It really seems you've lost your worth. All they have is their time to bide, in that forsaken hell called Earth. ~Null

How do you feel about where content is from? I have something very very long and rambling that I've been working on for a while. I was going to put it both on my own website as a .PDF, and also throw the .PDF on I2P torrents.

Working on an Illustration for the magazine. Going pretty good so far. Just have to think of a fitting background. What Resolution is preferred for the Image to be?

>>2401 we'll put it in

>>2402 depends on length perhaps you could send a sample? >>2405 not sure. do whichever resolution you feel is best

>>2395 pls no bully. I explained that above, you donkey. Thing is nobody else seemed to want to do it back then.

>>2412 Oh, and I do have the time.

>>2409 Sweet!

>>2362 Just got to say - love seeing posts like this, good clear information. For those that don't know about a thing, posts like this are gold! If more posts were this informative we would all be gods! * LainChan has good post quality! .... mostly.

>>2040 Are we supposed to email you before being able to access the website? It's saying that my connection is refused.

>>2436 It's been down for some time now.

>>2437 we deleted the gitlab

>>2365 Here. Have you guys hammered down an about amount of pages? Also have you guys thought about how big you want each page to be. I know putting it in a physical format makes a lot of logistical problems, so if we want to do Lanezine 4, or a best of lanezine from the top down to be physical that'd be cool, too.

>>2461 no idea how many pages lainzine 3 is gonna be, sadly. size is up to you. Do you think you could make print releases of volume 1 and 2? sorry there isn't more to work with, Junk's been very busy with college life and stuff

Am I allowed to submit artwork, a painting for instance, for inclusion?

>>2488 of course

>>2461 The size format should be ISO A5.

I'm whipping up something nice, a monologue from the perspective of The Wired as an enlightened manifestation of the universe, when the wall between The Wired and reality falls in full. About how all souls and information became subsumed into a Brahman-like whole. Stay tuned.

Can't wait for this fire to drop familia Will LZ3 get released before Christmas?

>>2497 hopefully?

I hope Gmail worked when I sent my story through...

>>2503 we got your story it probably won't be in LZ3 though

thanks for working so hard lainzine team!

Hey guys! I can't think of stuff to put in the editors section of LZ3. If anyone wants to write letters to the editor I will reply in the publication if they're sent to junk0@openmailbox.org

>>2497 Probably not.

I'm going to start working on an art piece for issue #4. I've held out on submitting because of a lack of faith in my work... but next issue I'm submitting. The fact that you guys make this brings such joy to my life and I want to be a part of it. Thank you!