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Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew of any good decently complicated mystery/detective/murder-mystery/psychological thriller novels. I've recently become interested in the genre(s), but I'm not sure where to start, and I thought the first best place to ask would be here. My only real preference would be that it's not too old, for example Sherlock Holmes or Agatha Christie. Thanks in advance.

I don't read a lot of those, but "And then there were none" is ok, it's not an excellent novel, i don't think it's even good, but it's readable. It's also short enough to be worth the time, you might like it more than i did.

>>800 so much for reading comprehension, whatever Yeah, I remember reading it when I was young, I guess I might as well give it another shot at one point. It seems like it could be interesting to delve into.

>>801 Preference =/= requirement, that's all i have to recommend in your criteria. If i had something else i'd recommend it instead.

I like Mankell's books, in particular the ones featuring Wallander. I've heard that Fred Vargas' novels are pretty good too.

>>802 Apologies for being snide, I didn't mean it in a malicious way. I'd definitely rather someone recommend something rather than nothing.

I could recommend Stephen R. Donaldson's "The Man Who" series, and Robert G. Barrett's Ken Norton books. The Millennium books by Stieg Larsson and the Thomas Harris Hannibal books. Individual books I've enjoyed are Death Is A lonely Business, by Ray Bradbury, and Marathon Man and Heat, by William Goldman. I've heard good things about the Nero Wolfe books, they straddle the line between the Great Detective genre and the Hard Boiled detective genre. Also Ted Lewis' Jack Carter books, and Ernest Tidyman's Shaft series. Anything by Eric Van Lustbader or Marc Olden.

>>805 Oh, and Peter O'Donnell's Modesty Blaise novels, and Trevanian's Shibumi and The Eiger Sanction. David Morrell's First Blood was good.

>>819 And it's so obvious I forgot it, but if you haven't already read them, Ian Fleming's original James Bond books.

This is definitely failing your "not too old" preference, but have you read The Moonstone, by Wilkie Collins? It's generally considered the first detective novel in English, ans establishes a lot of the tropes for the genre. In brief, it's about a diamond, which goes missing under suspicious circumstances. I highly recommend it.

"The name of the rose" by Umberto Eco is quite good, but it's kind of virtuosistic in the use of the italan language, so i dunno if the english translation makes it soykaf or not. Maybe ask someone who already read it in english