Cyberpunk 2077

I figured this would be the best place if any to discuss excitement and hope for this game. Hopes: Parkour elements possibly featuring wall and obstacle climbing, ledge and roof hopping (It would add to the /punk/ feel of exploration), It'd be super comfy to climb up some building and chill out alone, scoping out the surrounding areas. stealth elements including visibility, noise, lighting, could even have thermal tracking implants or other forms of enemy tracking/locating Hacking seems to be an interesting concept in this game, I'd be interested to see further implementation and uses. Too many people seem to be focused on the "negative aspects" of the game (sunlight, seemingly lack of different dialog choices, barren environments, etc) I guess we'll see in a couple days at E3, but nonetheless, what hopes do you guys have for the game?

I hope there's some more expansive chill open driving than what I've seen. Like some of the attempts to recreate Deus Ex in GTA really lampshade how claustrophobic and fenced-in the last two DE games' level design is compared to the first games. and vehicles are only ever used in cut scenes. The driving looked really cramped and crowded, even in the chase, and I'm hoping there's some fuarrrking freeways you can just cruise around on at night and enjoy the... what's that Japanese word for watching night city lights from a distance and feeling comfy? I'm sure we had a thread dedicated to it...

>>2046 What do you guys think about the humanity system? Do you think cyberpsychosis is dumb or no?

>>2046 Seeing as how character customization isn't going to be that in-depth, I'm hoping they make the game easy to mod so we can see all kinds of crazy fan-made stuff. >>2048 >attempts to recreate Deus Ex in GTA Sauce?

>>2058 As I understand it this system in a Pen&Paper RPG is implemented to prevent overpower player characters. I think Shadowrun also have a similar mechanic, and it make sens in those games as P&P RPG are about teamwork and collaboration (it won't be fun I one player would be able to do everything by him self). In a single player computer game this system might be used for balancing but maybe the devs will prefer giving the players a option to become a killing machine as the game seams action oriented. They might also use a different system to prevent players to become overpowerd like require some special modules to install new cybernetics like in Deus Ex and Deus Ex: HR that are in limited quantity in the game.

My biggest hope/worry is regarding whether the game will really support more meaningful world and npc interaction or if it will fall into the Deus Ex trap of largely reducing cyberpunk to window dressing for kill boxes and stealth puzzles. I want more in depth conversations along with interactive systems in the game world and less combat tourism. The preview articles about going to pacifica to slaughter hordes of generic gang members worry me.

>>2061 the symptoms for cyberpsychosis sounds a lot like the classic symptoms for a murderhobo. Its like a 4th wall way of addressing the actions of a toxic player

Cyberpunk is dead

>>2072 That is a funny thing to say. If your referring cyberpunk only as a literature genre then maybe to some extend, but if you think about other media (games, movies) then you can see that cyberpunk is still relevant.

>>2075 Shit for consumerist sheeple

>>2076 Yes, books, movies, games, music thats all consumer goods. So what? What is your point? Should we go and live in a cave?

>>2046 There will be upgrade to allow V to climb walls and hang upside down and stuff apparently. Interview here with Maximum Mike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9_rjQYByrA&list=LLtSKjJBhx-piqozRoxFWwHw&index=8&t=0s

>>2046 >city doesn't look much cyberpunk >no flying car >you can't choose classes >most buildings aren't accessible >limited customization option >forced cyberware >you can't join factions >not guaranteed mod support >they spent budget in actors faces >V will not be a nameless blank but a character with voice and personality i don't know man, i really want to like this game but most of the news i hear are for the worst

>>2079 So it's not a bethesda game? Sign me the FUAAARK up >>2058 I definitely think it will be related to the story/missions somehow, but I strongly doubt it would have anything to do with the player's experience in the game. I wish it would, but I'm a sadist and would love seeing my iteration of V go bonkers if I send her to the ripperdoc one too many times.

I'm not interested. It looks like another retread of the same ground as DE:HR or DE:MD, except they have no real interest of having any sort of interesting social commentary and just want "cyberpunk" to be a purely aesthetic thing. They already backpedaled on it being an RPG where you can take different paths and careers, there's only one linear storyline and the other factions in the world are just there to be window dressing and sidequests. Maybe in five years when the DLC is done and people have figured out how to mod it it'll be worth ten bucks.

>40 min of the gameplay they released are all pre-meditated storyline with no open world dinamycs other than a measly vending machine My guess is that the open world dynamics they are hyping up is very limited and might not even scratch the surface of some other older open world games. It might have a good storyline tho, but the skills upgrade stuff is obviously a gimmick that serves no purpose to advance the game other than waste your time with "omg so cool".

>>2080 >so it's not an RPG? ftfy

No interest, I already played this game when it was called Deus Ex.

>>2046 I like a lot how it looks and can't wait to play it. I prefer story-driven games so I don't really care if the game isn't really an open world, as long at it isn't a hallway game like FFXIII. >>2090 This may come as a shock to you, but did you know that more than one people/company can develop various games with common themes, aesthetics and mechanics? It's called a genre. Or are you calling this game a Doom clone too?

>>2091 If it has the same themes, aesthetic, and mechanics as something I've played before why would I be interested? That's not a genre, it's someone else's take on the same game. I understand your feeling, I remember being very excited when Deus Ex 3 was announced, but as far as I can see those caught up in the 2077 hype either don't remember or were too young for that.

>>2092 I've been playing Deus Ex since it originally came out, friendo, and I've played them all. The genre you're looking for is rpg/shooter/stealth and there's a crapload of games with those qualifications. Right now I'm hyped about it because Squeenix pulled the plug on the DX franchise after it didn't make good numbers so this is my personal replacement. And since we're at that I really wish there were more games on the same vein.

I just hope it sees a GNU/Linux port; it's dead to me otherwise. I mean, cyberpunk without Linux? Are you kidding me?

>>2094 I wouldn't hold your breath. CD Projekt got burned hard on The Witcher II's GNU/Linux port. It almost bankrupt them and the Linux community gave them a ton of soykaf because it ran like ass for a long time. Since then, they've ignored requests for a GOG GNU/Linux port despite it being by far the most popular request on their issues tracker as well as popular demand for TWIII on GNU/Linux.

>>2095 to be fair, their problem was using a soykafty wineskin wrapper, rather than just building it on a cross-platform engine in the first place. It seems unlikely that they will just change their engine though, engines are usually a core part of corporations' IP.

>>2046 Does someone have the core rulebook available? I can't find it right now its not even on libgen.

>>2125 You are looking for cyberpunk 2020, right? The rules for the tabletop rpg ware made a long time ago and ware called cyberpunk 2020 and not 2077 (i think they didn't release anything newer).

>>2133 Yes, preferably the reworked PDF version that comes with an pre order of 2070. I only found a very bad scan of the orignal rulebook so far.

>>2077 YES!

Anyone have any recommendations for good actual-play podcasts/recordings of Cyberpunk 2020? I want to experience the source material in some form before the adaption is released, but actually scheduling a TTRPG game is hard.

>>2157 I stumble recently on this thing: https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/07/12/we-played-cyberpunk-2020-with-its-creator I downloaded the audio of the full play session (2h long). Maybe it's not the best there is but it was funny and I enjoyed listening to it.

>>2046 It's just going to be a tech demo.

>>2161 Do you mean it will never be released or maybe that the final product will not live up to the hype?

I want to be able to fuarrrk Keanu. This is not a soykafpost.

>>2166 Looks like he's a hologram/digital hallucination so I doubt it

I'm excited, I got low standards for games so as long as it isn't boring and is hella aesthetic I'm down. I honestly don't like Keanu being in it, feels weird having such a recognizable face from real life in the world of cyberpunk 2077, but eh it's whatever

a "cyberpunk" 2077 thread? on an actual cyberpunk board? yeah nobody here gives a soykaf about that corporate pos game.

>>2186 You obviously haven't been working on your decks

>>2125 I found a good scan and uploaded it to the sharethread if anyone's interested. >>>/lit/3451

>>2186 What is the problem with a game made by a corporation? Or is it not "true" cyberpunk for some reason? Have you read Neuromancer? The world portrayed in this game is undeniably cyberpunk. When it comes to visual aesthetics I'm not sure if there is an absolute definition of "true" cyberpunk, even if you personally dislike the visuals of the game.

It has Keanu Reeves in it so it's already a 10/10 in my book.

>>2226 Judging from his post, I think he is not convinced that the game is truly "cyberpunk"

Everyone just needs to chillout and enjoy that we're getting good cyberpunk media right now. Sure, it might not be EXACTLY what you wanted, but that doesn't mean it won't be good.

fuarrrk, the soundtrack is going to be deadly

>>2555

>>2555 Aw man I've always wanted to play around with a plasma rack. Yeah this soundtrack is gonna be awesome.

I finally gave in to the hype and pre-ordered the other day. (On GOG of course)

On one side I want full body cybernetic conversions or some strange underground augmentations like spider legs stuff like that. On the other side I want a lot of bioware options for the for to become a organic monstrosity. I can only hope.

>>2555 Man, synth racks give me a boner. Also yeah, this is sounding absolutely amazing. Where did you get these vids?

>>2587 Marcin Przybyłowicz and Paul Leonard-Morgan's social media: https://www.instagram.com/kwazol https://twitter.com/paulleonardmorg Paul was also the composer of Dredd's soundtrack (which I loved).

>>2076 >Shit for consumerist sheeple This. C-ucksumers worshiping at yet another altar after their prophet Jobs died. Imagine living in an actual dystopia while fawning over video game escapism to a fantasy dystopia. Well, we don't have to imagine - because that is precisely what is happening.

>>2588 Thanks Phineas Queen ;^)

I want to have the option to be like a legionnaire from fallout new vegas and to have the option to reject all tech and to use primitive weapons since futuristic weapons, augmentation, and society would be against my characters personal beliefs.

>>2608 >I want to have the option to be like a legionnaire from fallout >>2606 >Imagine living in an actual dystopia while fawning over video game escapism to a fantasy dystopia. Well, we don't have to imagine - because that is precisely what is happening.

>>2608 >and to use primitive weapons

>>2606 The fact that things will go downhill not far from now really puts your life goals into perspective. I wanted to be a writer. Realistically, I never expected to change the world, but I put passion in it as if that were my goal. I thought that culture was the beating heart of man. But stripped of everything, man only has sticks and stones. As a writer you're just an entertainer. What's the word? Content creator. You're writing soykaf to keep 'em busy for a while. I've looked down at the things I was doing and every time I just saw a product. It's horrifying. Even if I put all of my heart into it, it doesn't change. I don't even think that what I make might inspire someone like things inspired me in the past. At best I think it'll keep someone entertained, give 'em a laugh or two. And it was really all just that. You called it culture to signal that you were one of the few who cared about the subtext. Even that was just a social game. I'm an intellectual, I give a soykaf about what this means! In a way it's even more blindly consumerist. You swear by this product and put it into your heart, dedicate your life to making more of it, instead of just chewing it up like everyone else while you go about your day.

I've read the game was postponed to November 2020 now, although I may be slightly wrong. For someone who's been waiting on it this entire time, more than a year since this thread was created, how does it feel?

>>2608 What I'm hoping for is that the game is really moddable. Huge amount of content + gigantic modding community making customizable crazy soykaf = endless replay value. That way everyone will get to have their bladerunner/legionnaire/horsecock/whatever fantasy, because someone will inevitably create all of it.

The new footage is looking pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF0cRaVVQco I just realized something, though - the requirements list Windows 10, but not Windows 7. We don't know if this means it's Windows 10 exclusive, and I don't think anyone will promise or confirm anything about that soon. There's no way I'm replacing my Windows 7 installation or giving CDPR money if they force me to use Windows 10. But I still want to play the game, so as a last resort I might dual-boot Windows 7 and 10 on my machine. There's plenty of guides on how to do it, but none on whether it's even a good idea. I remember reading that dual-booting can cause instability and weird bugs, but that was in the context of Linux/Windows and not different Windows versions.

>>3252 Also, please post any recommended guides if you've actually done this. I also don't know if it would be possible to restore my old W7 backup on the new W7 installation (probably with 3rd party software) since the partitions would be different.

>>2046 I'm fully expecting it to be politically correct about the parts of our our current dystopia that people agree about, so I'll save myself the disappointment.

>>3245 Im pissed at CDPR for fuarrrking up my hype momentum, I think they have pushed things back for other reasons, like so the release can coincide with next gen. Im gonna forget about this game atm, maybe Ill get to play in November who knows

bunch of media sites got access to gameplay demos. have any of you read through some of the articles? from what i've read it seems like the customization, role playing aspects, story choices, etc. are really good. it also seems like stealth and, to a lesser extent, hacking are nothing special, which is kind of disappointing given that i love playing "stealth mage" type builds in rpgs. i really hope they polish up the stealth gameplay before the actual release and don't give us bethesda-tier crap.

>>2079 Flying cars always looked dumb to me, but I agree with the rest.

>>3252 Good news/bad news? https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-directx-12-only The game will be DirectX 12 only, which presents a host of problems that are listed in the article. Probably nothing good for Linux users either. Luckily for me at least, the dev says the game will run on Windows 7.

>>3254 Anything might be expected due to the current western political climate, but I'm confident the game at least won't be 'woke' or preachy. The fact the studio is mostly Eastern European-based as opposed to some US west coast bubble still accounts for something. Still, from what I've seen the game probably won't avoid being provocative - let's hope it's not irrelevant or hamfisted.

>>3290 More discussion from CDPR forums: https://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/platform-discussion-thread.110083/page-59#post-12070976 >No word of Vulkan. The reasoning is also very MS centric. >DXR wasn't necessary for them to use (Vulkan provides ray tracing in the non MS exclusive fashion). So the main culprit is really Xbox. That's the leverage MS is using on developers. Feels disgusting. >Looks like people who were trying to convince CDPR to use Vulkan (like lead TW3 engine developer Balázs Török who was a big Vulkan advocate while even in CDPR) didn't succeed to overcome this MS centric mentality of their management. I wonder if it was also the reason Balázs Török left CDPR. >The only positive thing is that they are going to add Vulkan renderer because of Stadia work. But they didn't say anything about making it an option in the Windows version or even making a proper Linux one.

>>2168 Jonny Silverhand is alive and well in lore and he already has a love interest you fake fan

The new AI tech they're using to animate all the faces is pretty interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFIxiz0jwRE

>>3252 If you find yourself forced to install Windows 10, look into getting your hands on an LTSB or LTSC build. They're not meant for ordinary consumers and hence don't have a lot of the nonsense that win10 gets flak for. No automatic bloatware updates. The flipside is that some software refuses to install on it (e.g. latest nvidia drivers) due to your install being labelled as "too old".

>>3654 Windows 10 AME could also be good.

Looks like a game that was made to the tastes of an HR Department if I'm being honest.

Which gang in night city would you join and why? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7_D1qlwOp0

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>>3675 Christ, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. There has to be something seriously wrong with the game now for them to utterly cripple their marketing like this. I'm looking forward to the game, but the buildup to launch has now become more entertaining than all the media releases. Anything could happen at this point.

>>3675 at this point actual cyberpunk dystopia will happen before the game.

>>3678 Actual cyberpunk dystopia has happened already, pick your flavor: USA 1980s cultural loop of hallucinated greatness, ex-USSR family-centric bipedal cattle farm, European dull mediocrity mass-dieout, Asian calm fit happy and more productive automated cage array with anthill characteristics.

>>3678 We live in a cyberpunk society already, just look at all the surveillance capitalism and Internet becoming centralized because of FAGMAN.

>>3680 Who's the N? Netscape?

>>3680 Indeed, its ridiculous people waiting on a game when all you have to do for the cyb experience you just have to go out the door, if you can without getting busted that is. For the real cyb experience go to the ghetto with a laptop and play the original deus ex while doing drugs. I hope the game turns out a flop just so it pisses people off who still suck up to capitalism.

>>3678 >will happen

>>3678 >will happen >>3682 >I hope the game turns out a flop just so it pisses people off who still suck up to capitalism. This but for people who still suck (aka NPCs).

>>3678 >actual cyberpunk dystopia will happen >will happen >neurosuggesting it is a future event Reading this left me speechless, and because an image is worth a 1000 words I'm picture posting instead.

>>3678 >cyberpunk dystopia will happen I can't get over the fact someone thinks this is a FUTURE event. *smh*

>>3686 >>3685 >>3684 >>3683 All this stuff is even barely the tip of the iceberg. Drugs and guns of all kinds can be bought on the street everywhere. Govs and drug cartels fight with military grade weapons in ghettos. Corps have more power over "elected governments". Automated drone strikes are performed based on automated processed data from twitter. Almost everyone and everything is watched in every way possible. Neural implants and all sorts of augmentations are just on the horizon, no need to say this sorta soykaf will be sold out. Drones and robots in all shapes and sizes will be rolled out real soon. Not to mention a global pandemic where most countries arrest people for leaving their homes. Seriously how fuarrrking more cyb can things get? What the fuarrrk is wrong with people who would spend money on games when all you have to do is open the blinds and look outside.

>>3687 >All this stuff is even barely the tip of the iceberg. Agreed, but as I said I was speechless.

>>3687 >Drones and robots in all shapes and sizes will be rolled out real soon. 5G and its space agency level Telemetry would allow for city drone strikes without the suspicion of military tech (imagine like a stealth drone targeting the TI when they're alone in their apartment, no more cops and glows needed to "suicide" them). >robots Robots are never gonna happen. Even the Japanese who are the biggest Gundam/Bot nerds can't make it happen for decades. Flying Drones are more efficient, mobile, and can do much more when attached with weapon, 5G, and cameras. A wet dream for future dystopian society and combine to that the "drone workers" who are much more efficient than humans. AI is much more powerful than Bigbots and since it's not well regulated now (and no one listens to Elon) that's why a lot of big companies latch onto its development like parasites. It's only a matter of time until these big companies have enough processing power to take over the entire landscape while exercising the wisdom of AI to manipulate society (which happens right now) and government.

>>3688 >pic related It's actually kinda nice More life improving than dystopic to be honest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpFikLVAlSM

>>3691 It's not delayed. It's actually coming out early. Management just fuarrrked up the PR piece and also the management piece.

>>3691 Quality post.

>>3691

Is anybody gonna buy this game? or are you gonna watch a streamer play it? I plan on watching streams of it I was gonna pirate it since I don't have the specs to run this game

I plan on buying. It I saw some early reviews, everyone said it's good so far. project cd had done alot of good work so far.

I will be playing it probably in 480p and with occasional lag on Stadia, beats not playing it at all.

>>2058 In the pen and paper version, which I have played, it makes sense with the lore. As I understand it, the organic body rejects the cybernetic and causes instability in the character. I wonder if it would be part of the game as a sort of wildcard that adversely affects your character during gameplay. I don't know how players would handle their character just not responding to inputs though. Perhaps it will be some kind of stat boost to things like strength but takes a major loss to any intellectual or accuracy stats. >>2606 I used to think the game was cool, until the actual dystopia caught up with me Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA! >>2608 The pen and paper had swords and "antique" weapons IIRC. >>3691 >>3694 pic related

>>3938 >Cyberpunk 2077 XXX Parody Honestly, you'd think they could at least call it Cyberspunk 2069 or something. It's like they're not even trying.

What is this "game" even trying to be? It seems very telling to me that people only seem to emphasize the things you can do instead of what the rules, goals, limitations of this ostensible game are going to be.

>>3940 its an rpg you can do whatever, theres a storyline about a ghost in the chip, so you have to burndown megacorp. you know standard stuff.

>>3941 Like an action RPG then? Turn-based RPG? Glorified visual novel?

>>3940 In my analysis it's trying to be a life replacement game, a next gen interactive narcotic. Like GTA5 & Skyrim in 2010s and WoW etc. in 2000s. Something for the masses to immerse themselves in for years forgetting the troubles of reality. A game like this isn't so much defined by gameplay as it is by marketing and timing to become a kind of focal point where massive global attention converges ensuring the profitability of expansions and richness of modding community for years to come.

what the fuarrrk are you larping about, you know this game is gonna be a 45-60 hour jaunt through relatively linear missions with very little to do outside of the main quest and side quests and the mod tools will be as terrible as their last games. its just witcher: neon bogaloo

>>3939 >you'd think they could at least call it Cyberspunk 2069 or something . It's like they're not even trying If you knew who runs the porn empires you'd know creativity isn't their thing - deviancy is.

>>3688 >>3690 I can see a precedent...

This game is buggy as soykaf lol. CDPR seems to be taking a cue from the Todd Howard school of "using your customers as beta testers". Still pretty fun though. I haven't played enough for a real verdict but whether or not it has the staying power of a Bethesda RPG or will be played once and forgotten like the deus ex reboots will largely depend on whether the emergent gameplay is varied enough. I'm a bit concerned by how quickly I'm getting levels and perks. Seems like by the end of the game I'll be good at everything which would make the RPG elements kind of pointless, but I certainly hope I'm wrong. Say what you will about Bethesda RPGs, but they do a decent job of making multiple playthroughs worthwhile.

From what I hear, it's very shallow and couldn't even get the aesthetic right in the end.

I've played about 5 hours of it so far. Not enough for a full review, but overall, my impression of it so far has been pretty good. I picked the Corpo background and was initially happy that I could act like an entitled, spoiled priss, but as soon as I reached the convergence point of the three backgrounds, I noticed I stopped getting those flavour of dialogue options. Hopefully, they'll come back as I progress through the game, but I'm not holding my breath. I was having a lot of fun being mean to my assistant and telling bouncers to look after my car while I conducted business. I feel like I'm getting kinda old though, because the game feels very overwhelming to me. The city is (or at least feels) huge and there's just stuff happening everywhere. This is the sort of game that I would have played 14 hours a day for a week straight when I was younger, but now I play for 5 hours and I need to take a break because I get tired. I wonder what the point of having a penis size slider was too, and if there will be narrative consequences for it.

>>3967 Yep. I've seen a fair amount of gameplay at this point, and it basically is the thinnest of cyberpunk aesthetics. Most of the approach is sex. Gibson and Stephenson set the bar for sex by making it a brief flash of strong connection in cyberpunk, rather than something that saturates the environment. Really pathetic. >>3966 It'll be forgotten soon enough. It's simply too repetitive and shallow.

It might be decent in five years after all the updates are done and modding is figured out, but as it stands, it looks like something that got butchered by focus testing.

>>2069 This so much. >GM: God jammit, why don't you ever try to roleplay. You always min max and kill everyone. If only there was a way I could *force* you to roleplay.

>>2665 >You're writing soykaf to keep 'em busy for a while. I've looked down at the things I was doing and every time I just saw a product. It's horrifying. But the horror is caused by unrealistic expectation of literature. All human art is an attempt to communicate ideas by laying out symbols in a pattern and hoping they register. Example: the character had a choice at the end of the movie that mirrored the choice at the start, but they made a different decision because the story was them growing as a character. That's extremely contrived, but very satisfying.

>>3966 >will be played once and forgotten like the deus ex reboots But the reboots were really good.

>>3972 That's extremely generous of you, but you need to realize this is a game designed by a large company via focus groups and test groups for a mass market. It isn't Catcher in the Rye. Any other assessment is bullshit.

>>3970 >modding This is what I'm the most curious and optimistic about. The leap in quality could be huge and many aspects could become unrecognizable (for better or worse), like with Skyrim.

I'm pretty sure they're just gonna delay it again. Like the horizon, this game is more of an idea than a thing.

I watched one of my friends play Cyberpunk 2077 while we were drinking and shooting the soykaf. It seems competently put together and ran smooth at 1080p low on a 1070. Looked like a cross between borderlands and watch dogs. Not my cup of tea, but if I see something that actually stands out to me, I'll pick it up when it's cheap. >>3973 The reboots had fun gameplay, but the level design and story didn't hook me like the Original or even Invisible War. I swear the writers only played Liberty Island in the original with their focus on nonlethal vs lethal like it's a real choice. The only reason Paul harped on about nonlethals was because you were killing his compatriots. The new story was not good, especially all the stuff about how the man is keeping down the Augmented Americans. It's so patently absurd because augs would be the domain of the rich and powerful. The original was so believable, and even moreso replaying it after 9/11 (never forget). IW was less grounded because they decided to make all the original games endings simultaneously canon, but it was cool to see the consequences.

I've played like 12 hours so far, I think it's a slightly above average game so far and would rate 7.5 or 8 out of 10. Graphics are very good on the models for many of the main characters and certain things here and there, otherwise the game just has "good" graphics by today's standards. The story is very interesting and cinematic, lots of awesome nods to Neuromancer which I've enjoyed; I will say however that the balance is probably more around 80% talking and dialogue / 20% doing things. That doesn't necessarily bother me because the story is really good but it does almost border on being an extremely cinematic visual novel at times. I've been kind of disappointed by the open world (like I am in most open world games to be honest) to where I don't feel it serves much of a purpose unless you enjoy driving around and looking at random stuff which can be cool when you first get a game. Lots of the stuff in the game is gated by story stuff which annoyed me, for example I found out about "Clouds" which is a cool place you go in the story, I read about it while exploring in one of the intranet terminals, it said that it was in megabuilding 8 and I spent the time to explore and find it. That was fun, but it turns out you can't use the service yourself, it's for a one-time story deal and that really annoyed me. I find the gunplay satisfying, but many of the uniquely cyberpunk 2077 aspects of combat feel tacked on and like you're going out of your way to use them for the sake of using them. Other than short circuiting robots it's better to just use rifles and pistols. I don't know I'm just kind of word vomiting and giving my impression. I think it's a cool game but I felt like they easily could have done a way better job. Oh yeah I can't find any good side questlines, not saying they don't exist but they've all been one off isolated meaningless incidents so far. I'll continue the game and beat it as I'm having fun but I think when you stack it up to games like Deus Ex and even New Vegas it becomes apparent that they dropped the ball a bit in many ways. Oh yeah one more thing. The fuarrrking clutter, every room has one million tiny little things you loot, most of which don't matter. It feels like there is no sense of satisfying gameplay loop because it's like >clear room >walk around it for 30-45 seconds scouring every corner to make sure you don't miss stuff >repeat sometimes keeping it simple really is best in certain aspects.

>>3994 This is pretty much how I feel about it. It really defied my expectations. Note that I've never played much of the witcher, so I'm only familiar with CDPR's work from listening to other people talk about it. For some reason I thought cyberpunk was going to be somewhere between the bioware and bethesda styles of RPG. It isn't like that at all. Oddly enough it reminded me of Grand Theft Auto with some (but not enough IMO) nods to the classic immersive sim genre. Maybe a bit like ubisoft's big budget sandbox games as well. Point being, this isn't a game where your character is a blank slate. The game tells you who this person is and what they're like; you just pick their hair color and, more importantly, what they do. The main quest line is a pretty linear story, supplemented with side quests that form tidy little mini arcs with a reward at the end but not much of a lasting impact on the main story. It isn't like a more traditional RPG where some side quests will not be available depending on what kind of character you're playing (or at least wouldn't make sense to do if you're committed to the roleplay). Like in the Elder Scrolls each class has it's own faction quest line thing, and you really aren't supposed to do all of them with one character. Cyberpunk isn't like that. You're expected to do any side quest you encounter and feel like completing. This isn't to say you don't have options. As with many immersive sim games the real options are in how you actually carry out the missions and how you spec your character. Even more "meta" decisions that you make outside of a particular mission usually have more to do with *how* you are going to accomplish something rather than *what* you're going to accomplish. When you get a mission you'll be told what needs to be done and be handed a couple leads. If you dig around a bit you can usually find a few additional leads that usually involve some puzzle solving and produce more elegant solutions to the problem. It's all a lot like deus ex and the game pulls it off very well. Actually, I think it does it better than Deus Ex because the writing is usually better. Deus Ex, on the other hand, does its more nuts and bolts mission puzzles better. If you're told to break into a building and steal something, Deus Ex gives you all kinds of weird and wonderful ways to go about that, with lots of potential for mixed class emergent solutions to boot. In cyberpunk I found myself looking for the "stealth hacker door" because I'm playing a stealth hacker character and I know damn well the devs put a door in for me somewhere. I almost always found it. It's usually something like "just go through the vent behind the dumpster". In deus ex you might get off easy in one mission because you've for the right perks to walk in the front door, but the next mission you're doing some arcane puzzle solving because you don't, and even though the puzzles take more time they're never annoying because you're meeting new people and getting to know the world.

>>3993 >I swear the writers only played Liberty Island in the original with their focus on nonlethal vs lethal like it's a real choice. I think they focused on this because they were able to create a fun trade off. Lethal is permanent, easy, cheap, but loud. Stealth is temporary, harder, more expensive, but quiet. The game is similar to a survival horror game. There's not a lot of resources and your pockets are small. The need to avoid detection and the scarcity of ammo constrains player choices and turns even simple rooms into a puzzle. ...until you deliberately max out your inventory size and turn yourself into a walking armory with min maxing. By the time you get to Tai Young Medial, you're an unstoppable cyborg killing machine. Every boss fight starts with a stun lock and ends with a reload.

https://www.pcgamer.com/valves-made-cyberpunk-2077-playable-on-linux/ >Valve's made Cyberpunk 2077 playable on Linux. Some characters might not have a face, but it works. >Valve coder Pierre-Loup Giffrais advises that the game will currently best run with an AMD GPU and Mesa, though users are reporting some success using alternative setups, including Nvidia cards. >Naturally it's not yet perfect, not least because Cyberpunk 2077 seems to be buggy as all hell.

>>4003 Based Gaben, making excuses for AAA developers with another fuarrrking Wine "port".

>>4004 Alright buddy, no day-1 Linux playability for you then.

The game is soykaf, no two ways about it. It's just a mess. Initially I was thinking it's okay and yes it's okay but okay doesn't quite cut it and compared to what else is out there it just doesn't stand up to the hype at all. Major fuarrrk up, very within the zeitgeist of 2020.

I hope none of you wasted actual money on this game, if you're going to use proprietary crap always pirate it, especially if it's only available for windows. From the gameplay I've seen the price tag is a bit too much.

the dialogue makes me want to peel my skin off

>My impression after a few hours in. A very average case of a "triple A Meh" caused by the developers playing things way to safe. Things like Parkour / wall climbing? Gone. Hacking into enemies and controlling them? Gone. Cyberheists? Gone. STEALTH????? LIKE A MAJOR COMPONENT IN MOST RPGS?????? Gone. Several things that were in """GAMEPLAY REVEALS""" And trailers just several months ago just straight up removed not even reduced down or changed????. Yep. >Length Incredibly short. I tried to time how long the main story would probably be and i guess it would be around 4-6 hours on average if you avoided most side quests. which is a bit on the thin side for a triple A. >Gameplay. Very repetitive fallout style system. "Go here kill a group of enemies scaled to your level [cutscene] then go to new location and repeat" >Mod's / Cyberware / classes / Cyberpunk as an RPG. Hollow as fuarrrk. Barely tops fallout 3 in its level of complexity in its RPG system. classes along with things like Cyberware and body mods just give you dumb things like "5% stamina boost" "2% Health" or "10% Melee attack" (Which also comes packaged with annoying unskipable Melee kill cutscenes)

>>4012 (Continued) The fact THIS was the end result of almost a decade of work + a last minute 10 month crunch where everyone was treated like soykaf to get the game out + Numerous delays along the way + an insane hype train and massive support.

>>4012 >>4013 >Things like Parkour / wall climbing? Gone. TRUE >Hacking into enemies and controlling them? Gone. TRUE, GOOD POINT! >Cyberheists? Gone. DAMN! YOU'RE RIGHT AGAIN! >STEALTH????? LIKE A MAJOR COMPONENT IN MOST RPGS?????? Gone. TRUE! >Several things that were in """GAMEPLAY REVEALS""" And trailers just several months ago just straight up removed not even reduced down or changed????. Yep. Oh sheeeeeeit! This is SO TRUE!!!! I had totally forgotten about those things during the release delay AFTER the game went gold!! Deploying mantis bladed arms and wall running like in Aliens™ was half the hype last year! This released bug ridden junk strikes me as a low grade GTA remake with cyberpunk overtones. Pic related. The fact it has CRAFTING (YES! C-R-A-F-T-I-N-G!!) added to replace all those things you mention shows how much the game regressed during development. I noticed another major difference to the pre-release version - there is SOOOO MUCH literature - messages, emails, blurb!!!! I don't mean a "I want to play a game not read" amount of text, but a "am I reading a book or playing a triple A game? WTF?". This indicates CDPR had 'devs' who didn't know how to code and employed them creating useless text fluff for their 'contribution'. The character wearing a Jewish star and reading Tarot cards (Minx?) at the ripper doc should have advised CDPR that 2020 was a bad year to release the game.

>>4016 CDPR is publicly shared and famous, making it de facto American.

>>4017 > Everything that is famous is automatically American lmao

>>4018 I wasn't implying that's a good thing. Any major publicly traded company becomes de facto American or Chinese sooner or later. CDPR became extremely well known after TW3, so American suits invested. This was probably why Cyberpunk became such a development clusterfuck: the old Polish devs struggled against the new, woker western devs and the American businessmen who demanded they use focus testing in order to boost sales.

>>4019 Not really. Anybody can own a stake in the company. The key is who has controlling interest, and even then, they might not dictate that the company become another nationality. There's lots of good reasons to leave it be and simply milk it for dividends.

I put in 20 hours I thought it was pretty good. The dialog isn't super impressive. keanu reeves character is a complete edgelord and not in a fun way.

>>4021 Most of it has been and continues to be edge lording. They sent a bunch of transphobic tweets, included the right wing african american crime statistics meme as a car description, include blatant transphobia in the game, etc. It's all edge lording.

Here we go again, what a party killer

>>4022 dilate

I'm pretty surprised by how well it runs on Linux through Proton with my very dated hardware. My graphics card doesn't even support DX12 so I couldn't run it on Windows if I wanted to. I'm just hoping someone comes up with a fix for the audio issues. I haven't really followed the game's development so I can't say whether people are right to be disappointed, but I'm having fun so far. As for the lackluster RPG elements, those were pretty much to be expected considering Witcher 3 was already more of an action adventure than a proper RPG. >>4022 Poles will be poles.

>people avoided end-of-year parties with their friends just to play an overhyped singleplayer failure of a game on release day Do you think they will learn?

>>4026 >hoping someone comes up with a fix for the audio issues Assuming you mean the crackling/popping sounds. I read somewhere that it has to do with sample rate mismatch with your audio card. Try fuarrrking with your settings. I've been having the same issue but unfortunately I can't fix it because I've got a hardware audio interface that's hard clocked to a certain value.

43 hours in. It's a great game, very fun to play, plenty to explore, tons of texts to read, absolutely amazing environments and scenery. Starts rather slow and story holds you tight, but it becomes more like GTA and 100x better after you get a terrorist tulpa and more freedom. Progression feels great, now I double-jump over buildings, walk on roofs and have 250 different ways of cleaning the room. Unlike in other RPGs, variety stays through the game and paths that you haven't invested in are still viable - I have 0 combat perks or skills and still can own everything with firearms, which I do from time to time. Controls on PC are somewhat bad so I play with a gamepad - there's not much precise shooting going on (you mostly wait for your smart sniper rifle to lock on the head) and cars/bikes steer MUCH better with triggers and sticks. Story is great, characters are great, everything is cyberpunk as fuarrrk, nothing is normal, nobody is sane, everyone is either a psychopathic edgelord or a naive fairy holding on to hUmAn vAlUeS and getting fuarrrked in the ass by the City and it's exactly how it should be in a game called "Cyberpunk". Everything in this game is exactly how it should be in a cyberpunk game and I love it. Bugs? Yeah, whatever, mostly cosmetic, seen worse. Hope they make it a franchise or something, this universe has way too much lore for just one game from one studio.

>>4029 >Unlike in other RPGs, variety stays through the game and paths that you haven't invested in are still viable I'm still trying to decide how I feel about this. On one hand it's nice that you can change things up if you get bored of one play style but on the other hand I wonder if replay value will suffer if all builds eventually converge to the same thing (i.e. being good at everything) in the late game. There are a ton of different perks, armor, and weapons though, which results in what feels like fast progression but it still takes a long time to truly max anything out. Not to mention the upgrade/crafting system for gear, which I assume will help out in the late game once I've found my favorite gun and just want to dump points into making it more powerful. Stealth is fun but I'm having trouble making non-pacifist stealth viable. Mostly because I haven't been able to find a gun that can one-shot people and also can be fitted with a silencer. I've been stacking perks under the cool tree that raise crit chance and headshot damage when you aren't in combat, but still my silenced weapons take multiple shots to kill people, which usually gives them enough time to reveal my position. Also I can't figure out how to play stealth melee/blades. Maybe I'm missing perks but if you sneak up to someone there doesn't seem to be any point in stabbing them when the grapple thing is already an instakill (unless they're strong enough to resist it... but if that's the case you're not going to be able to kill them in one stab anyway). Overall my main complaint wrt combat is that the enemies are too spongey; at least they are on the highest difficulty. It's fine that I die in two shots, that's a fun challenge, but it limits what you can do as a stealth character if most enemies can soak up multiple headshots from anything that isn't a sniper. This game could use a "hardcore mode" like fallout has that turns off some of the aides, lowers carry weight, makes food useful, and makes both the player and the enemies do more damage.

>>4028 Nah, I'm talking about the missing ambient dialogues, weapon sounds, etc. As for the crackling, PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=60 fixed that for me.

>>4027 Never, CDPR made all development and marketing costs back already, they will now firmly enter the sphere of mediocre AAA publishers like Ubisoft and EA that an no longer make a loss on their major games. In a years time or so when most of the more glaring issues have been fixed the narrative will change to how this is the best game ever and people who didn't like it are just contrarians just like with CDPRs previous major game.

The game is generally pretty good, but I still think it easily needed another year in development. The story is actually pretty interesting, but the main quest is far too short, especially by the standards of the same devs who made The Witcher 3. Most of the game is just wandering around the map, ticking off boxes by doing various mini-missions and finding tarot cards which, while fun, does get boring and samey after a while. I managed to plough through about 80% of the story and only stopped when I googled how many acts the game had (spoiler: it's two) and that I was already most of the way through the second act. I wasn't even rushing, I just assumed I still had way more of the main quest left to play through. This leads me onto the next point: pacing. The pacing in this game is just fuarrrked. Without spoiling anything, Act 2 puts pressure on you to progress through the main quest as fast as possible, implying that something bad will happen otherwise. However, Act 2 is also when you're supposed to go out exploring the city, doing side quests and generally box-ticking map markers. Originally, I assumed that there would a lull after Act 2 ended and that I would have a bit of breathing room to do some exploring, but apparently that is what I'm supposed to be doing now. It feels very weird, like I'm just wasting time or something. Also, Act 1 ends far too quickly and the bulk of the side quests don't appear until Act 2 anyway. There are a lot of good things about the game though. They nailed the ambiance in the city and I enjoy driving around it, exploring different areas and looking for the secrets. I would go so far as to say that Night City is the best part of the game and obviously had a huge chunk of man hours dedicated to crafting it. Still, I wish they developed more time to the story and less to making a huge ass city with all these unconnected busy-work dots on it. I've heard people call it a "GTA clone", but it reminds me more of an Assassin's Creed game in this respect. Oh yeah, and the glitches are plentiful. I've had to reload quite a few times because my hands get stuck while trying to hack computers, encountered tons of visual glitches and missing dialogues/shard texts/etc. Pic related: a random floating phone I saw while walking down the street. Made me crack up.

15 hours in and I'm very conflicted about the game. I love the story, setting, atmosphere, music, gunplay. I think the side quests are very fun. Driving on keyboard is a mess. My gripe with it is everything else. On the technical side the game is fuarrrking awful. It's glitched as fuarrrk. The city NPC AI is technically non existant. Performance wise is awful as soykaf. So I'm conflicted. Right now it's between a 5 or a 6/10. if they ironed out the glitches, actually programmed the AI, and changed the way the engine loads/unloads content, it'd easily be a 9.5/10. I'm having tons and tons of fun, it has been years since a game has caused me to lose sleep. There's a seriously good game underneath all the pile of crap. But in it's current state is fuarrrking unacceptable.

>>4034 >There's a seriously good game underneath all the pile of crap. But in it's current state is fuarrrking unacceptable. This is basically what I'm hopeful about. I'm going to be able to play it about a month from now, so I hope CDPR's anguished peons will have fixed most of the jank by then. Especially performance, since my PC barely fits the minimum requirements. >>4026 God damnit, I wanted to post that exact image. It's been stuck in my head all day.

i lowkey regret torrenting this artifacting grainy foggy dialogue sim it was bearable through slow motion gun fights and fighting retarded ai but totally lost me when i made it to my shed and tried to shoot up negro kid and game just would not let me, instantly shift deleted it of my drive not to mention that ther is literally nothing cyber about this game as people that made it clearly know nothing of cybernetics

>>4033 >The pacing in this game is just fuarrrked. This is such a common misstep in these action-RPG games, and I have no idea why devs keep making it. You know how in morrowind you're kind of just turned loose on the world with a few leads, but when you start the main story in earnest is up to you? Or how in mass effect you get that "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS MISSION? YOU SHOULD DO THE SIDE QUESTS FIRST." message before you start the third act? It's absolutely essential to include breaks like this in an RPG story because it gives the player character an in-universe excuse to fuarrrk around with fun but ultimately pointless side quests. I handled this in my roleplay by imagining that my character (ACTUAL SPOILER:) accepted their inevitable death and just wanted to fuarrrk soykaf up and help people with their last month on earth. I delayed taking the leads that give them hope of a cure, so that when i start them i don't interrupt the pacing. Honestly, they handled this better than FO4, Skyrim, ME3, or even the Deus Ex remakes (although in the latter there were less pointless sidequests so it was less of an issue). The "wait for so and so to call you" and "meet me at such and such time" mechanics are great because there are situations where you actually can't progress in the main quest, so you can do side quests without feeling like you're wasting time. Still, I think they should have added a gap between the climax event of act 1 and the big reveal that motivates act 2, or at least made more of the game open to you in act 1. It feels like an extended prologue/tutorial. >I've heard people call it a "GTA clone", but it reminds me more of an Assassin's Creed game in this respect. In terms of story pacing, I'd broadly agree. Rockstar games tend to do sidequests really well, and I can't say that Cyberpunk lives up to their standards. However, I will say that the way side quests turn into little story arcs spanning multiple missions is more like GTA than AC. If they were copying AC then your only sidequests would be those hit contracts you get from random fixers. On the other hand, GTA's quest design is really repetitive. AC always had interesting puzzlebox infiltration missions even if their impact on the story was minimal, and I think Cyberpunk does as well (which largely derives from their aping of Deus Ex's quest design). >>4034 >The city NPC AI is technically non existant. This is definitely true. Enemy AI is pretty mediocre too. It's not terrible when you compare it to other games out there, particularly other RPGs, but I was disappointed that they didn't do more with it. The one thing they did do better than average is the stealth/search AI. Enemies don't just beeline to you as soon as you fire an unsilenced weapon, but they do have a general idea of where the sound came from. If you're spotted the AI will follow you, but if you break line of sight they'll search for you in a believable way.

>>4035 >Especially performance, since my PC barely fits the minimum requirements. This game is all GPU. My PC barely meets the minimum requirements and fails to meet recommended requirements but I can run it on max raytracing settings no problem because I've got an RTX 2070. Only CPU bottleneck I've noticed has to do with NPC AI/instancing in dense parts of the city. If I'm driving fast I get fewer cars and pedestrians.

>>4038 >This game is all GPU. Well, piss. I've got a 1050 Ti, hopefully they'll improve the framerate in the near future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49kWSbWm9dg

>>4021 >The dialog isn't super impressive I disagree, the ventriloquism is amazing! I've not seen characters talk without lips moving since the 1990s. Cyberpunkt >>4027 >Do you think they will learn? No. >>4029 >G-guys I didn't waste my money buying a game downgraded from the trailers because it has extra reflections. Cope. >It's a great game >Controls on PC are somewhat bad Cope confession. >>4033 >game is generally pretty good >it easily needed another year in development >pacing in this game is just fuarrrked >I've had to reload quite a few times >tons of visual glitches and missing dialogues/shard texts/etc >generally pretty good >pretty good COPE. Nice 3D art but the game is sh*tty or average on everything else. It is only paid reviews & cope keeping the steaming pile of dogsh*t review score up on PC. Console review scores average UNDER 4 (Xbox) 3 (PS) for THOUSANDS of reviews for GOOD REASON. >b-but those are previous-gen consoles The 'previous'-gen consoles CDPR spent 8 years developing the game for but failed abysmally? The game should be polished as f*ck on those consoles - they delayed their release date a year.

>>4040 >Cope. Doesn't look downgraded to me, I play with RTX on Psycho and had no expectations regarding gameplay. >Cope confession. Just sharing how to enjoy the game. Vehicle mechanics is not made for keyboard steering, unlike GTA. The point is, the game is enjoyable despite bugs if you like cyberpunk. It's somewhat like a comedy - a good comedian can tell soykaf jokes from time to time and audience would still love them. If they worked for a year more, graphics would start to look outdated, then gameplay mechanics, then something else...

The game is soulless. It breaks my heart

Am I the only one that really likes the game? It isn't everything it could be, but it still is fun. The story is nice, the world is nice, walking around at night as well as in the day is cool It has the typical problem of standard events around every corner which becomes ridiculous (just like witcher, where you have monsters around every corner), but still a very good game. Rhe only bugs I had were some smallish_stuff like objects floating in the air. Since I've grown up with gothic I and similar stuff things like that don't really annoy me. Once I had to reload because a talking event didn't get triggered, that was annoying and I had to replay about 3 minutes of game time again Also Jacky pls come back ;_;

>>4043 i think for most people it didnt live up to the hype because it was 8 years waiting.

>>4043 I like it, just not as much as I thought I would, which seems to be the general consensus.

Been trying to get people interested in playing 2020 with me on here for the last few years with no luck and now yall going mad for it...

>>4044 8 years and getting this was a huge letdown. It feels like they scrapped huge chunks and redid soykaf 20 times over and ended up with a mess.

>>4046 They are just corpo cocksuckers getting hyped only when they consume corpo made advertising ;)

>>4046 oh soykaf lain, me and my IRL friends play it about 2x a month depending on our schedules

>>4041 >Doesn't look downgraded to me, I play with RTX >Misses the point the FEATURES were downgraded, not the artwork. >>4042 This lainon gets it. Gamerz who are mesmerized with shiny flashing lights will think the game is good. Others that value cohesiveness and GAMEplay in a GAME see it as pre-alpha release demo. >>4044 >i think for most people it didnt live up to the hype because it was 8 years waiting. No. If the game was EXACTLY as shown in the trailers it would have been awesome. This was a bait & switch. Watch the trailer again and see the hacking mechanic, or wall running takedown. Such features are not in the release. They gutted the game, which only fanboys are blind enough to make excuses for. "b-but it has more flashy lights, so the game being unplayable without restarting isn't a big deal."

>>4043 >Since I've grown up with gothic I and similar stuff things like that don't really annoy me. Once I had to reload because a talking event didn't get triggered, that was annoying and I had to replay about 3 minutes of game time again >I have low standards so I don't care feel scammed even if I am, so it's OK. 1980s games were unironically produced with higher standards. >but those were simpler games. No. They were leading edge technology at the time - and had no prior solution methodologies in game design to refer to. The level of technical difficulty to produce a game running in 48Kb required ingenuity (See the mathematics of Cambridge scholars Braben & Bell in the game "Elite" for example) The fact there are more bugs, and lower quality standards today demonstrate regression of product quality. Game companies today can produce a game unplayable for many (standard current gen consoles in this particular case) and get away with it. Such actions would have landed the company in court for fraud 30 years ago. Now it is seen as acceptable, and those scammed unironically defend getting scammed.

>>4057 >gets so triggered by the mention of RTX he doesn't bother to finish processing the rest of the post I didn't have expectations regarding gameplay and enjoyed the GAME a lot. Checked out what you're talking about - hacking mechanic in trailer was utter trash, thank god they've simplified it. And oh no, they have removed wall running, which is usable in around 3 scenarios over the whole game and introduces 5 months worth of fixing new bugs, the game is unplayable now. UI is also not exactly the same as in trailer, it's now unusable.

>>4059 >I'm fixated by shiny lights I think others are too. Your RTX and "the rest of the post" is irrelevant to the point I was making. >hacking mechanic in trailer was utter trash, thank god they've simplified it. >I'm happy I got less game than trailer >And oh no, they have removed wall running, which is usable in around 3 scenarios over the whole game and introduces 5 months worth of fixing new bugs >I'm also happy they removed a great feature because I can't use it in ANY part of the game and it would be hard for them to fix bugs that shouldn't be there So predictable it was predicted.. >They gutted the game, which only fanboys are blind enough to make excuses for. Some people eat a plate of sh*t if it is offered to them and excuse it as food because it arrived on a plate, others refuse because it is sh*t whether is was on a golden plate or not.

>>4060 >I'm happy I got less game than trailer The only trailers I've seen is the cinematic one 8 years ago and the most recent cinematic one a week ago, after which I bought the game. And enjoyed it a lot - a great game with amazing gameplay full of variety! You are looking for reasons to dislike this game and you're finding them. Enjoy being stuck in bitter hate, I'll go have fun with a few more side missions.

>>4061 >You are looking for reasons to dislike this game and you're finding them. Enjoy being stuck in bitter hate, >Being truthful is hateful. I've never felt honest critque is "hate" but obviously not everyone has the same standards. Some of us hate to hear honesty if we disagree with it, and when others speak it we label it "hateful". >The only trailers I've seen is the cinematic one 8 years ago and the most recent cinematic one a week ago, >I am ignorant of what was promised therefore a pragmatic comparison between promise and delivery is "hateful". Well ignorance is bliss as the saying goes... I'll reiterate - in the off chance it will get through after half a dozen attempts - the artwork is GREAT - the GAME is not what the company promised gamers it would be and falls short of the standards one would expect. (Obviously others have much lower standards, and have no problem with it).

Not a big fan of having a celebrity as a main character in a game. I don't like Hollywood and I think Keanu Reeves is probably a pedophile, or drug addict or something else equally fuarrrked. Seeing a Hollywood person in the game is a big red flag for me, because Hollywood has a recent history of taking cyberpunk classics and fist-fuarrrking them. Think Alita: Battle Angel, New Bladerunner and GITS. Also, they are fuarrrking planning on ruining Akira with a soykafty Hollywood remake next year as well. Another thing is the price of the game. $100.00!?!?! For realz!? Like other games they probably haven't released the dlc yet, so people who buy the game now aren't even buying the whole soykafty game. Anyway, I'll be playing it within the hour so we'll see how good or bad this game really is. I don't keep up with the video game industry, or watch retards who commentate games so I'm going into this only seeing the trailer. I'd like to thank fitgirl, Bram Cohen and contributors to the Wine project for making pirated gaming on Linux possible.

>>4064 Bladerunner 2049 was actually great.

I deliberately consumed as little marketing about this game as possible. I feel like if I did, I would be sorely disappointed because the list of features is very average, even somewhat outdated. Even without knowing what they promised, it seems clear that they didn't fulfill their promises. I still bought it on account of being an absolute sucker for the cyberpunk aesthetic (obv there's not going to be "real" cyberpunk in a AAA game). On it's own, the game is fun enough. It has its strong points which are the characters, story bits, worldbuilding and aesthetic. All of these it does well and they're what make the game enjoyable. It also has weak points, such as trying to do everything GTA does (but poorly), actually trying to roleplay (V is an established character, Street Kid is obviously canon), the world feeling kind of empty once you try to take a closer look (only 2 prostitutes total) and its over-reliance on sexual imagery to be edgy. The above could be a passable mix of priorities, making for a decent game, but it is unfortunately marred by being incredibly buggy, unperformant, and unpolished. Bugs include models getting stuck during emotional cutscenes, clipping through things everywhere, and having to frequently reload the game Performance means not hitting 60fps on a 1k PC less than a year old Polish includes cops being unable to drive so they teleport into your blind spot the instant you commit a crime, NPC behaviour being just bad, missing obvious stuff like being able to get a haircut. Overall 7/10, would become 8/10 when they fix the last paragraph.

>Parkour elements possibly featuring wall and obstacle climbing, ledge and roof hopping >stealth elements including visibility, noise, lighting, could even have thermal tracking implants or other forms of enemy tracking/locating >Hacking seems to be an interesting concept in this game, I'd be interested to see further implementation and uses. Holy soykaf you poor man, I feel so bad for you.

>>4024 >Not acknowledging the downright lies that were made in the gameplay trailers Sad.

Notes on my Cyberpunk so far: >In-game story is pretty fun and makes sense so far >Johnny Silverhand's character has been butchered from the tabletop game, he is now a complete psycho that is willing to murder countless amounts of innocents to achieve his goals and is completely heartless to V and only wants them dead before realizing that killing V would also result in his death as well >Character designs range from fuarrrking awesome (like MOTHERFUCKING ADAM SMASHER) to downright stupid (like with some of the gangs and people you meet on the street) >Drving is stiff as hell and NPCs have an annoying habit of jumping right in front of your car and getting run over, reminds me a lot of GTA 4 of Watchdogs except somehow worse >Combat is much more simple than what was teased, seriously feels like borderlands which I'm not a fan of either, enemies take too many bullets to go down, you can also go nuts with stabbing a person and they won't even flinch >Hacking is simple as well, thankfully it is not as annoying as in a game like Watchdogs, but it feels significantly cut down from what was teased, if you're in a middle of a gunfight you probably won't use it all that much >Body modifications are dumbed down as well, gorilla arms are only useful in higher difficulties from what I've heard, and the monowire I've noticed isn't very effective in combat and you also can't hack anything with it, you can only hack off peoples limbs. >Stealth is downright bad, enemies can detect you very fast, and buildings usually only have one or two entrances, it is also pushed aside in many missions in favor of combat, it is impossible to have a 100% stealth run, you'd be pretty dumb to have a character that uses stealth only >You have to grind a lot to get good weapons and modifications, I did a lot of side missions over and over again to unlock body modifications and to get cash >AI is seriously lackluster, it seems a lot of the time that enemies only have an interest in charging you, or sitting behind a wall and lobbing grenades at you, the AI can also cheat and spawn enemies right next to you, I noticed this especially with the police, I've seen cases where the police will spawn IN THE EXACT SAME ROOM AS THE PLAYER, CDPR could have learned a lot by studying how Rockstar and Ubisoft have handled the police in their games, you can also avoid the police by driving down the road, I've never once had a police car chase after me even after I gunned down multiple officers >Bugs are plentiful here, I am seriously amazed at how many there are, either models will get stuck and frozen, or objects will randomly get suck and float in the air, or the UI will bug out and become non-responsive and useless, or people will turn into low poly mudmen when you round a corner, in the worst cases I've seen, there have been crashes or characters will not appear in missions and will soft-lock the game >Controls aren't too hot, I'm not the best PC gamer around, but I have to stretch my hand in the heat of battle, that isn't too bad, what annoys me the most is that the controls are often not responsive at all, character movement and shooting is usually fine, but doing stuff like using a health item, or using the phone, or getting in a car, or interacting with items will not always work even after multiple key presses, seriously no idea what's going on In the end, it is alright, but the game is far from polished and needs a serious amount of work before I can call it "great", if I was a person that got really hyped and spent a ton of money for the collector's edition, I would be very pissed.

>>4070 *Notes on my Cyberpunk experience so far: Writing this at 5 AM might not have been the smartest idea.

What I liked: 20 hours of required gameplay, shooting effects and katana. The rest? There is no rest, it's just not ready. The "game" itself is not bad by current standards, it has a well detailed plot, but current standards are so low gamer vermins are ready to take all that bullshit as granted and give as high as 5/10 for a "game" that is overall so bad you can hardly call it a beta-test or even alpha release. And plot itself is just your typical Hollywood kino, there is nothing you can call "punk", no political message except for that hypocritical "fuarrrk corporations" that doesn't make sense given main heroes choices and opinions.

>>4072 Once I discovered the katana the game has been a fun massacre, it gets repetitive but it's fun occasionally to just run around slashing heads off everything with a single click with my 800dps katana with a 50% crit chance.

>>4073 How the hell did you get an 800 DPS katana that early in the game?

>>4074 I'm not sure if it's really 800dps, I bought it by the arms dealer in the badlands who sells from their van, it's just a rare katana which had 24% crit chance and then i added a mod with extra crit chance and upgraded it with crafting a bunch of times. But last time I looked at it it was ~700dps and 30something crit chance, maybe with some buff I sometimes have it jumps in dps...

>>4075 >30%+ Crit rate >700 DPS What the fuarrrk. What level are you?

>>4076 >he isnt pistol spec lmao literal 120K crits.

>>4078 I can two-shot most enemies with my revolver if I crit them.

The implementation of level scaled weapons and armor absolutely killed the gameplay for me, since you have to constantly swap out your guns to keep up with the growth in enemy damage and health as you level up. I heard people excuse it as "It's an RPG", but that's not a quality of all RPGs, Deus Ex didn't have this, most "classic" RPGs didn't have this. Stronger enemies were different enemies, not the same enemies with a number inside turned up a few notches. This seems to be a modern trend in RPGs to have scaling like this, so that you can feed the player flashier and bigger numbers that amount to nothing in the end since the enemies get stronger too, Skinner Boxing. The gunplay itself feels very flat because of this, many enemies can just shrug off a whole magazine of headshots from a pistol for some reason. The tabletop game had extremely lethal combat where you could drop dead after a shot or two, but in this game you have to pepper every single enemy with tons of lead until they decide to keel over, grenades exploding next to their feet launch them but barely dent their health, it all feels so dumb and cartoony, especially since the original tabletop had its combat inspired by FBI crime reports.

>>4088 Level scalling is the most retarded mechanics that ever appeared in cRPG games. Just make leveling/gaining skillpoints/stats slower FFS as slow that it would take ages or is even impossible to turn into one punch 9000 enemies killed at once. Who the fuarrrk even thinks that level scalling is fun?

>>4088 Maybe you're just playing it wrong. If you want to keep a weapon just use crafting to upgrade it, put good mods on it and pick perks that improve using it. I've only noticed having to change clothes a lot if I want to optimize stats but the armor values of different clothes aren't usually so drastically different that it would make a difference in gameplay if you pass on most of em. If you play on harder difficulty than normal then this game like previous Witcher games will require you to use items to survive most combat situations.

>>4076 I think I'm way overleveled for all of the main missions I've been doing, most of the time your surroundings are so full of repetitive gigs and vigilante missions and if you just run around with a sword like some kind of weeb lord from mission to mission you'll quickly make a load of levels and money. Rarely even use vehicles since everything tends to be a few hundred meters away.

So this just happened https://www.ign.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-cd-projekt-red-could-face-a-class-action-lawsuit-over-misrepresentation I don't think it's gonna go anywhere but wow, this is just sad honestly, how will they ever recover?

>>4093 >If you want to keep a weapon just use crafting to upgrade it Therein lies the problem, upgrading a weapon levels up the damage one player level worth, but upgrading it increases the cost of further upgrades exponentially, so to be economical with upgrade parts, it's better to switch out your gun or craft a new one instead of using the same one over long periods of time. It's worse with guns that are "Rare" or "Epic" since upgrade materials are also tiered and increase exponentially, so you'll hit a wall with those types of guns even sooner, getting a rare gun is supposed to be a reward, but the only "reward" you have is that it's much harder and more expensive to keep that gun from going obsolete as you progress through the game. And crafting itself is bound to the tech stat, so for the most part if you want to circumvent the looter shooter level scaling, you need to spec into a specific attribute in detriment to all the others, having a "mandatory" stat to level up to circumvent a crappy feature is bad balance. The entire crafting feature seems like some badly thought-out stopgap to deal with the drawbacks of looter shooter item distribution, and it messed up plenty of different things. There's no reason to stock up on medical items if you can pull them out of your ass whenever, there is no reason to buy ammo if you can pull it out of your ass, if you find a weapon blueprint, you will never need to buy the gun again since you can just craft it, and the crafted gun is going to be the highest "gear level" it can be, the crafting system pretty much almost obsoleted the whole "open world" aspect of the actual game. Something I also forgot to mention is that the guns have barely any depth, there are no secondary firing modes, there's no "unique" projectile weapons like grenade or rocket launchers (that aren't late-game implants), the Power/Tech distinction is mostly a gimmick, with one not even mattering much until you get the ricochet predictor implant, weapon types have universal ammo and there are no ammo types like New Vegas (the TTRPG had AP ammo), I don't think enemies even have armor apart from just thicker health bars, the recoil feels stiff, and the damage scaling makes the guns feel piss poor all in all. Don't even get me started on the lack of flavor items like good descriptions or data and such. Like the rest of the game, the guns and gunplay suffer from an extreme lack of depth.

>>4095 LMAO at the picrel. Where is it from?

>>4097 https://foone.github.io/Cyberpunk2077Apology/ You can make your own if you like.

>>4096 Just disassemble every item you come across you get those components, it does take more time admittedly the more you upgrade it.

I thought this game would be a disappointment, but I wasn't expecting it to be such a trainwreck. This + Deus Ex MD being a huge flop might mark the end of cyberpunk games.

What a fuarrrking disaster this has been so far. A fitting end for 2020, if anything. Pretty sad, but I'm still hoping they fix the game as much as possible, and that modding transforms it even further.

Any and all of you filthy consumers who were ever hyped about this deserve all the wait and soykaf you get. Cyberpunk is and has always been a consumer product ever since a few authors wrote some books for money in the far past.

>>4105 at least they were owning their means of production LOL

Who'se hyped?!?! game finally comes out tomorrow unless they delay it again!

>>4112 I'm railing coke until release time to get hyped. When it comes out, I'm going to begin smoking a whole ounce of meth while I play. If I'm not psychotic before I beat the game, then it wasn't worth the $100 I shelled out for it. If that happens, I'll write a long thinkpiece about my displeasure when I get out of the hospital.

>>4113 HEY GIYS. I'M FLAYING@@@ WHEN Is IT GOIN TO DROP?!?!?!?!??!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>4114 Depends on your location lain. Keep railing.

>>4012 to be honest you can parkour in this game with the double jump and a very fun bug that launches you forward

Oh dear https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/12/sony-delists-playstation-version-of-cyberpunk-2077-begins-full-refund-program/

>>4140 A genuinely impressively fast fall from grace for CDPR, unprecedented behaviour by Sony.

>>4148 CDPR also pulled an indie game from GoG for having Winnie the Pooh and Xi Jing Peng in the background. I forgot the title, but it had psychedelic visuals and was horror themed. It was called "Devotion". https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/16/22178225/red-candle-games-devotion-censored-steam-release-gog-date

>>4151 Makes sense, Cyberpunk 2077 isn't even officially out in China (Chinese people buying the Western uncensored version on Steam are basically using a workaround). CDPR wouldn't want to insult Xitler, because that might even lead to a ban on all Cyberpunk 2077 releases and any future/past CDRP games. I think this Steam workaround might be ending soon though, as Steam will probably merge with the official Chinese version of Steam, thus leaving Chinese people with only a handful of games, no way to easily communicate with people abroad, and even more government spyware and restrictions. And it is like kicking dead whales down the beach for Devotion's creators too, hopefully this debacle serves as some free marketing if the game ever does come out.

Ive sunk a lot of hours into this game and done lots of smaller gigs before it was patched again and I went further into the main story, and even on the ps4 Ive been loving it. Its smoother now and combat has got better with multiple enemies but if you just play the game stealth ninja its better anyway. Today was slightly surreal though Lizzy wanted me to move a body and then I went straight to see Judy and she wanted me to move a body as well I have an external hard drive that might help the ps4 run, the game keeps getting more patches so Id say its essential.

good that I didn't pre-order

pirated it and played it for about 100 hours, did most side quests, played through all the starting sequences, and all endings. I did not buy into the hype when it was first announced so I went in with no clue what to expect (other than soykaf since it was a AAA game that made millions from preorders alone) The good: - some of the 'cinematic' cutscenes are very nice and atmospheric. I seriously believe this game is at its greatest during these short moments of contemplation. When it prompts you to lean or sit somewhere and wait while some npcs harps on about a heist or a plot or something or another. - the gunplay is kind of enjoyable here and there. I like what they tried to do with weapon subtypes (smart, tech and power) and they have cool sound design. Melee weapons on the other hand are a bit boring, you just spam M1 for fast attacks and hold it for strong ones, blocking and dodging are rarely ever useful. -the city looked pretty from afar, if you dont look to closely then it looks like a genuine cyberpunk city, with megabuildings like in dredd, flying cars and soykaf - I liked the akira bike, some vehicles looked nice while others were just filler. The bad: pretty much everything else lmao. -sidequests were terrible aside from like 2. boring, filler, samey content that boils down to 1. get inside the place /// 2. click this computer/escort this person outside /// 3. leave the area (there's one where you crucify a spic that's pretty neat, the election campaign thingy was also ok) -most of the time you are working for the police like what were they thinking -most of the world lore is exposed through fuarrrking notepads scattered throughout the map for god's sake -mmorpg style itemization, orange > purple > blue > green > white being the power level of items. while 'upgrades' and mods for weapons and clothing offer boring number increases -some of the stuff just looks plain unfinished or NYI. for example I specced deep into crafting and you can't craft more than 1 item at a time, meaning that if I wanted to turn my 3000+ green crafting components into blue ones (at a rate 9:1) I would've had to craft ≈333 separate instances of the thing. -police. folks already mentioned it. they make no sense in how they operate (can't drive cars, spawn just outside your field of vision) there is no reason for them existing, only to prevent the player from going bananas on the pedestrians (by the way they despawn when you look away, so a huge crowd can vanish into thin air just because you looked at an add for one second) -driving feels like you are on ice, there is no telling how colliding with objects will go, sometimes you slide right under a car like in fuarrrking harry potter while other times you hit a traffic cone and stop dead in your tracks as if it was made out of solid concrete. losing control of it is unavoidable, it gets better as you get used to it but it is still no excuse -while it pays tribute to almost everything in the cyberpunk media, it does feel like pandering a bit. I feel like it missed the whole 'high tech low life' point the genre makes. you dont really ever interact with 'poor' people, which should be like 90% of the general population in a cyberpunk setting, and there is absolutely no gameplay downside to getting chromed up. even shadowrun of all games addressed this properly with the essence system. cyberpsychosis is not a gameplay concept here, only an empty title attached to a filler sidequest. . I could go on, but overall I think the game was disappointing and forgettable at best. even if all the bugs were patched out of the game tomorrow you are left with a hollow experience that becomes a bitter journey during those small moments where the game shows promise

They literally got an 18+ rating but they showed like three boobs, and a penis/vagina in the entire game. For one, how did they get an 18+ rating. Two, fuarrrk them.

>>4523 That's all it takes for a R18 rating in USA.

so much for this game ever getting better. There were some cool scenes, but it was super grindy and didn’t feel as cyberpunky as it did like a gta mod.

>>5371 Funny now after all that hype by the fanbois pumping money up their ass. Now that they got scammed out everyone is in denial and nobody wants to admit that they wasted their money on scammers. As usual i dont except gamers to learn, just wait for the next hype hoax by some aaa game slavery scheme and pretend its gonna be different.

>>5374 Gamers being retarded? Always have been. Let's not kid ourselves a lot of us would do the same if we were in the for-profit game making business.

>>3686 >>3685 >>3684 >>3683 "ah yes, these pictures from recent protests definitely (not cherry picked btw) means we live in le ebic ciber punk dystopia!1!11!"

>>4065 No, it wasn't. Visually? Yea but it's a 5/10 movie, man

>>5478 >we live in le ebic ciber punk dystopia dont we

>>5508 With the number of people who really really really want to believe that we are in a cyberpunk dystopia I'm kind of sceptical