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lainchan has turned into a nazi site. its disgusting

you're probably the one who posted that.

this isn't really even the best of it. you really picked the lowest-hanging fruit that you likely planted. find yourself a rope.

lainchan needs an injection of postmodernism for revival, specifically anti-oedipus. Even if its just in an aesthetic sense even though thats so antithetical to it. Lainchan developed a nazi edge (in part, beyond psy ops and bots and the normal amount of online fascism) because lain was ahead of its time and accelerationism was popularized before other postmodernist anti-humanist thought because it was eziest to grasp. Not that marxism and dialectical materialism are wrong inherently but lain as a show grappled with topics beyond its time a bit, and the obvious reactionary fill in is accelerationism. Its easy to understand and gels well, even while still considering myself leftist I used to spout accelerationist ideals here to little challenge. I used to wonder why I visited here still and just chalked it up to like a stockholm syndrome cause I had this thought too. I think actually lainons have a lot of potential, theres people here who live totally what the incels would perceive as "normal person" lives and cant help but visit, truthfully no one here is more or less normal person regardless of material circumstances internally if they resonated with lain in a deep enough way to find this site. Inherently everyone here who found the site through lain at least is a postmodern type of person and fascism just fills a void of meaning neatly. I dont think the nazis here can be convinved online I still believe me as an anonymous voice cant change their mind. But like you probably agree the issue isnt a lack of common understanding at least, many libs think the fascists and nazis simply dont know what they know. I think we all here which is kind of amazing share some base assumptions and are aware of those base assumptions. On other boards the nazis might not even be aware of the base assumptions, saying something like "america is void of purpose or direction or meaning and maybe always has been" might actually cause some reactionary dismissive response like "says the europoor getting overrun by muslims" (thats probably a soykaf imitation i dont interact with those types and havent for awhile but u get the idea). Here the response is "Yes and...". Often the and can be stupid and played out but the acknowledgement is open and honest. This is one of very few places where fascists and marxists and libs and libertarians and all sorts interact without doing so solely for the purpose of those watching or knowingly in bad faith. The fascists here talk about their bad faith arguments and methods in a meta way knowing we know what they are doing already and so instead its about convincing us the bad faith is for a greater good. I dont know what this means but its unique to here, 4chan used to have it but does not anymore.

>>99982 Are the nazis in the room with us now?

>>99983 its what I and maybe OP might call them this isnt intended to be antagonistic I know most here even those id call nazi would not call themselves nazi and espouse the sentiment of what you are saying. I would even call them nazi just fascist but im using the language of OP. I think you could word my post in whatever form gels with you and youd agree instead of posting this, I just happen to be far left. Even fascist to me at this point isnt explicitly derogatory but just something I disagree with fully and is to be fought. I dont think you whatever you believe are lesser whether I think you are one or you say you are or arent or whatever else. I also dont think even if I did lainchan is a relevant battleground to fight that. Id rather just you share what you think.

>>99984 *wouldnt call them nazis Als an addendum im not saying we have to lie in bed together or are anything close to that. Obviously because of what you took issue with. Just that we keep coming back in spite of it and I think the reason why is not just we have an earnest balance most sites do but that its an earnest balance who may differ wildly and want to kill eachother maybe even but we all accept some basic truths about capitalism and the world others do not. When a normal conservative starts talking to me about americas values and a need to return to them it cant even make me mad. When some insane monarchist or accelerationist or incel or whoever I disagree with makes a point here I have to get mad because theres some acceptance the american dream or british dream or wherever you are and whatever you call it is dead and its about instead what new reality to create and whether a powerful myth is as good as reality or not or things like that. I know the person im mad at could have been me and I could have been them and we hate what we know. Surely you feel the same when you compare to like instagram or twitter discourse.

>>99983 yeah fren. hi i guess?

>>99986 This is what I meant as above longposter, id never say this anywhere else or in real life but we have a better caliber of nazi or fascist here. On most chans no reason to hide majority rules but on normal net (most) fascists would never out themselves like this when someone (usually themselves) is making the "so where are these supposed nazis" case. That trying to pull a culture war "does nazi mean anything if you call everyone one" is dead here. Instead someone yells nazi the nazi simply arrives to speak. Theres the classic let nazi into bar and it becomes a nazi bar story I wont repeat cause everyones heard. I dont think it applies here because there is no discreet takeover or need to this is like barren soil only made interesting because of opposition and tension. No one is fighting for lainchan that era of doing that with digital spaces is dead this is just a testing ground for all sorts. A throw soykaf at the wall and see if it sticks with anyone and who.

>>99988 >on normal net fascists wouldnt out themselves like this the whole point of this style of conversation board is that you get to be anonymous. Moderation is lax, and though this goes for a lot of online communication at least if its not in a real name forum, whatever you say generally doesn't come back to bite you IRL. That is to say there's not really any consequence to saying you're a nazi, and some people will even do it because they like the attention. This isn't afaict a special quality of lainchan culture, maybe a special quality of chan culture. Pretty much the worst that can happen is your post gets deres'd >>99982 >This is one of the few places *Few online places. And maybe if you're segregated enough irl one of the few places for you. But most likely in your personal social circle, your neighborhood, or in your family, there's quite a bit of political variety. Possibly more. >I dont think the nazis here can be convinced online It was in part because of evidence seen online that I developed my 'nazi' stances, surely if you have compelling arguments and evidence against naziism, presenting them here would not hurt. FWIW things like the mass somali fraud in minnesota are absolutely real. And the government of Minnesota was aware or had all the evidence in front of it to be aware years before anything started happening punitively. Likewise the mostly pakistani rape gang scandal in Britain where by some estimates as a school girl your odds of being raped were, and likely remain, higher than your odds of being bullied, was known to and ignored by the British government, the NHS et cetera, who chose to call for more immigration and try to crack down on the 'menace of racism'. When, recently, Vikrum Digwa got his family to come help him after stabbing a young polish student in britain, his mom took the murder weapon, his brother helped him look like he'd possibly been in a fight, and his father propped the victim up so he looked less terribly wounded than he was. Curiously the murderer, by virtue of his foreign religion was legally allowed to carry a knife in a country where knives and even pepper spray are essentially derezzed. When some of the Somalis in minnesota were on trial, they had their relatives and coethnics swoop in to try to bribe a juror, an event which likely only was discovered because the juror, an african american assessed to be more likely sympathetic to the somalis, panicked. There are so many crimes committed by such recidivistic offenders that if, in the US we had like a 20 strike rule, crime would be seriously reduced. Yet judges let these people out, time and again. Why? We can go on, but you get the point.

>>99982 It has less to do with SEL and more to do with this place attracting more and more retards from 4chan /g/ and 8chan /tech/.

>>99977 >EY YO RABBI, WHAT IS YO DOIN?! Keep in mind that OP doesn't actually mean national socialists or political and/or philosophical fascists, as they likely would even share some views. Real nazis or fascists are often well read on socialist literature and often find plenty of common ground with the far left on topics like economics. What OP instead means is nazi/fascist = people they don't like/disagree on one or more views/are irritated by/want to be left alone/are whites who don't hate themselves and are tired of pretending they do Basically wearing out those terms more than their mother's snatch. With that understanding of those words in mind yeah, it sure is a "natsee board" and it should be even more one! >>99988 >when a rabbi goes into a bar, it's now a barmizvah >when a black man goes into a bar, it's now the bad part of town >when a republican goes into a bar, it's now a MAGA rally >when a democrat goes into a bar, it's now .. oh sorry it's not my turn to speak >when a cyclist goes into a bar, it's now a handle bar >when an astronaut goes into a bar, it's now a space bar >when a hipster goes into a bar, you probably never even heard of it >when a vegan goes into a bar, it's now a salad bar >when a horse goes into a bar, it's now a barn >when an alcoholic goes anywhere, it's now a bar >when it's 2020, it's now a nonessential service You can apply the notion of "if you sit at the same table as a X you're now also an X" to anything. It's just retards grandstanding and playing linguistic politics games when they say that.

It's been this way, newfriend. Five years at least. Long, long gone arethe days when you could expect people to be engaging in good faith on lainchan. Don't post here unless you want your anger glands stimulated.

>>99993 >Real nazis or fascists are often well read on socialist literature and often find plenty of common ground with the far left on topics like economics. Both historically untrue, since the original fascists extremely anticommunist and especially the NSDAP after Hitler took power was basically not socialist at all, and also untrue in the modern day based on my interactions with avowed fascists or people who argued for fascism (but totally weren't fascists Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA! ) At most, a typical fascist is aware of arguments against the far left. Often they sound like they're just copy-pasting canned responses, or they drop the whole "debate" act and start slinging soykaf because their ideology is actually very shallow and aesthetics-based.

>>100000 Holy wasted digits. Of course Coke would compete against Pepsi. The reason why socialist parties would be vehemently opposed to each other is because they're competing for the same type of people. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and a nazi/fascist to you is probably a Trump supporter or some no step on snek guy with a Gadsden flag. Or simply someone not wanting to drink your stupid cool-aid. The only key difference really is the argument between the blank slate and genetic determinism (both are wrong and reductionist btw) but if you talk to an actual self proclaimed fascist or national socialist then it's Bezos this, jews that (although left socialists call them capitalists instead). Even the question on property usually falls on the grounds of are they my friends or not? >At most, a typical fascist is aware of arguments against the far left. Man, you really have not a single clue about the epistemology of the current fascist fringe. They often know your arguments better than you do while you believe they're just some drooling retards drawing crooked swastikas all day or lump people in who aren't even collectivist at all. You talk about history but you leave out that Mussolini was initially a member of the Italian Socialist Party before branching off into his own thing, or that the NSDAP was influenced by people like Strasser before he got the useful idiot ending. Thanks to idiots like you who kept crying wolf for so long, real fascists are going unnoticed and will catch us by surprise once the current left wing international establishment loses their credibility entirely and people will start looking for alternatives. And if someone's already been conditioned to collectivist thought then this will be very enticing to them. Besides their monetary theories can be interesting and more compelling than what the marxists managed to offer. Meanwhile even the left has long turned the class struggle into a race struggle, pushing everyone who would get disenfranchised by that to consider the opposed mirror image of that, be it out of sheer self preservation, so good job! >their ideology is actually very shallow and aesthetics-based Not more than left wing socialism. Besides aesthetics is what appeals to the masses more than some pretentiously convoluted word salad and jargon for jargon's sake. >>99997 Truth is, it was always soykaf. Just effort post and be the change you want to see in the world.

The funny thing about nazis, fascists etc. is how they love to pretend they are well read and came to their beliefs through careful deliberation and argument, they will spam a wall of text trying to convince you and perhaps themselves that this is true. Yet, their whole case always comes down to shibboleths, random inane reasoning, and flagrant displays of ignorance and incapable of thinking. When you point out the flaws in their reasoning, they react like 12 year old communists wheeling out conspiracy theories and insults. And that's what they really are, people who embraced an aesthetic to appear edgy, cool, and misunderstood. Talking to these people is like talking to your friendly neighborhood Marxist, although at least Marxists pretend to read, they have their heads shoved so far up their own asshole that your voice won't reach them and they are trapped in an echo chamber. Notice how fascists morph into free speech loving liberal democrats, free speech being an idea they aren't even supposed to believe in. You need no greater evidence for their incoherence. They are white Zionists.

>>100006 the fact you cannot see how their morphing stance on free speech kind of shows your own ignorance. fascists are usually fine being labelled as stupid too, it's always nice for your opponents to smugly sit pretty on their asses while you loot the throne out from under them. you, and a lot of "leftists" really demonstrate why the fascists are so apparently able to "fail upward". if you discount their intelligence and knowledge, they'll only find it easier to eat your lunch. a classic mistake made on the left, more generally, is to conflate "you haven't read what i like" with "you haven't read". anyway, i know this insight will not produce a positive response, so I'll go back to ignoring the topic while you brave keyboard warriors duke it out.

>>100008 >you, and a lot of "leftists" really demonstrate why the fascists are so apparently able to "fail upward". if you discount their intelligence and knowledge, they'll only find it easier to eat your lunch nta, but I think it's much simpler than that. fascists and racists and other "exclusionary" rightoid movements are just insofar simple and robust enough that their ideological signal just cuts through the noise of high flying intellectualism around it, whereas leftists are in the grips of analysis paralysis and ending up as victims of their overt abstract pondering. No matter which fascist or far right advocate you're asking, all can basically agree that "war (or struggle) is good", "might makes right", "we need a strong leader", and "meritocracy is justice". The content doesn't really change, only the way they are being philosophically justified and practically applied, which essentially taps into the golden rule of mastering your craft: "Lee doesn't fear the fighter who's mastered 10,000 techniques, but the fighter who's practiced one technique 10,000" - basically the same gist: leftists: 10,000 ideas done once, rightoids: an idea done 10,000 times. Granted, some leftists might agree with a few of these claims, but those are exceptions, and the overall point here is that, because leftism, as a broad political orientation, is overtly intellectual and way too into "Big Ideas (with intricate details and nuances)™", it has been gradually fragmented over the years by its own internal forces to such an extent that no kind of major consensus of an ideal future can bee agreed upon. But I suppose all of this is just another way of stating that exact same distinction you had just made between "the ones who have read" and "those who've read the wrong stuff".

>>100006 the problem here is that at the root the modern left (hereafter 'the commies') and the modern right ('fascists') care about somewhat different things, at least at the fringes. Given the same slew of facts, the same precise understanding of an event, the commies will say this is good, while the fascists will say this is terrible, and vice versa. Seeking a factual disagreement makes the other look like a moron when you assume that the other is operating with the same value system. But if you consider that one of them is operating off a totally alien system of values, things can make more sense. Now obviously there are cases where understanding of the facts is wrong and this leads to wrong conclusions, but imho mostly this is only with milquetoast people on either side. Everyone who cares knows that George Floyd was a recidivist criminal who died of an OD, and who was likely still alive when he got into the ambulance. The difference in response is because the commies still think the police should be abolished and the fascists still think that armed robbers should be executed.

>>99990 Other chans where i came from to here years ago im not unfamiliar with them I just dont think its the same. As i said nazis are out in open there because its nazi board, when they visit boards thay arent of similar mind in my experie ce they focus on converting and optics even on an anonymous chan. Just in the unique toxic way thats appreciated there. I dont see that often here.

>>100004 >You talk about history but you leave out that Mussolini was initially a member of the Italian Socialist Party before branching off into his own thing Almost like he disagreed with them about some core issues, maybe even like he grew to hate them. People do change their minds about things. > or that the NSDAP was influenced by people like Strasser before he got the useful idiot ending. That's why I said "after Hitler took power", which is the time period anyone cares about anyway. >a nazi/fascist to you is probably a Trump supporter or some no step on snek guy with a Gadsden flag. I think Trump definitely qualifies as a fascist under any reasonable definition. Ancaps are clearly a different thing. Also, I like to call every single mainstream american politician "fascist lite". >if you talk to an actual self proclaimed fascist or national socialist then it's Bezos this, jews that (although left socialists call them capitalists instead). There's also differences between the reasons they think those people bad, what they would prefer in their place, and what they think the solution is. Really all you're doing is saying " these two non-mainstream ideologies hate the mainstream ideologies" as if it's a useful comparison. Modern American fascism also has a weird love for Israel, probably because it is a model for what they would like to have in America. >real fascists are going unnoticed They're very noticed, they've been winning elections for a while... >Meanwhile even the left has long turned the class struggle into a race struggle, pushing everyone who would get disenfranchised by that to consider the opposed mirror image of that, be it out of sheer self preservation, so good job! Quite true, the decay of the left is a damn shame. >Not more than left wing socialism True, but fascism is much more anti-intellectual so socialism tends to attract more disgruntled intellectuals.

>>100004 >real fascists no true scotsman

>>100010 the majority of the left's "intellectualism" is low-tier semantic squabbles or posturing. your very own post is guilty of this while failing to address the statements made. until the arrogance of the left is checked, they'll be a failed project. continuing to make believe the right is fubdamentally unintelligent WILL have very bad consequences.

>>99993 nazi is nazi. and they can not be tolerated on lainchan. i dont care for your definiton

>>100006 > they will spam a wall yes, certainly rightful to accuse them of it... are blind ?

>>99993 I'm a white and I hate myself because my fuarrrked up genes caused me to be a retarded sperg with a million chronic illnesses and some more diversity in the gene pool would go a long way to curb that (also ig I'm doing eugenics by refusing to have children kek). what OP means by nazi is someone who like the NSDAP wants to solve society's problems (real or imagined) by removing the people involved, e.g. deporting the somalis committing fraud in minnesota because that's pragmatic realpolitik that doesn't involve interrogating the organization of the world financial system or why somalis would find themselves in a position of antagonism against amerikkka (oh wait that's just the liberals, conservatives are that but with more retarded aesthetics o algo) >>when a democrat goes into a bar, it's now .. oh sorry it's not my turn to speak wtf is that even supposed to mean >>100000 it's worth noting that the NSDAP intentionally drew from socialist aesthetics (such as the color red) to bring in confused socialists and muddy the waters. >their ideology is actually very shallow and aesthetics-based. tbf so is modern leftism, basically every "ideology" is just a status symbol you can flaunt in the spectacular halls of polite society. hey, if the memes get even one teenager to read bevins o algo that's all right by me. >>100004 >aesthetics is what appeals to the masses more than some pretentiously convoluted word salad and jargon for jargon's sake. >Just effort post mfw >>100006 in modern day amerikkka fascists are just liberals who hate trannies and somehow think that jews caused capitalism (and the cringier ones are also technoutopians) >>100013 >Modern American fascism also has a weird love for Israel, probably because it is a model for what they would like to have in America. what happened in israel is exactly what happened in amerika, only 300 years later and nominally jewish >>100014 it matters little anyway, ideologies might as well be brands at this point >>100016 I disagree, the fact that nazis are allowed to be here and yet haven't managed to void the place of all meaning is a testament to lainchan's success. see >>99982 >>100017 and you retards love to larp about iq lmaoo (this has been fact checked by snopes)

>>100020 >fact checked by snopes my nigga this

>>100020 >confused socialists and muddy the waters. You know nothing about Karl Lueger and anything before hall hortler. but ok.

>>100015 >while failing to address the statements made I thought I did? When I stated that "rightoid movements are simple", I didn't mean "simple-minded", but rather that the ideas they stand for are. Again, it's not so much that the right lacks intelligent/intellectual people. Rather it's that it's got simple ideas that are given multitude of different guises and justifications by right's powerful intellectuals, which makes the rightoid ideological landscape recognizable and conceptually "well-shaped". Take for instance the ideological element of "war (or struggle) is good" out of the other examples of rightoid ideas. In Koran it's about a holy struggle against weakness. For pagan larpers its about the test of manhood. For Evola it's a transcendental experience that elevates the man, becoming almost like an aesthetic notion one is obligated to pursue. Hitler and all the other race theorists and literal nazis conceive it in terms of natural selection and the biological betterment of a social body. For libertarians it's about the struggle of the individual to own himself. For leftists this same ideological element takes the form of "struggle against injustice is good" (or "class war", if we're talking about marxists), and there are hundreds of ways to define injustice, which leads to the sectarian rabbit holes that divide the left as a whole, which was what I was talking about. >the majority of the left's "intellectualism" is low-tier semantic squabbles or posturing. your very own post is guilty of this To a degree, sure, and I thought I acknowledged it when I tried to bridge the conceptual divide between the "you haven't read what i like" with "you haven't read" you brought up, and my remark about the right having centripetal tendencies whereas the left has more like centrifugal tendencies, thus tying these two phenomenons we both have been observing but from different perspectives. Regardless, I was actually agreeing with your earlier post above. Just thought I'd expand upon it, that's all.

>>100016 how will you stop them? i want to hear how your intollerance will translate. >>100015 accurate. if the left did the work as much as they bullshit, we would live in a very different world. >>100020 >>their ideology is actually very shallow and aesthetics-based. >tbf so is modern leftism, basically every "ideology" is just a status symbol you can flaunt in the spectacular halls of polite society. hey, if the memes get even one teenager to read bevins o algo that's all right by me. leftism as it is now is defined by their alleged moral superority. usually when you investigate the basis of this superority, it is based on misinterpreting reality. how often do "leftists" engage in henious behaviour? the answer will shock you! the real shock is even here, on lainchan, everybody is too much of a rube to be critical if their own side. this dissappoints me, but i'm not surprised. most of the positive claims about the left can apply to large segments of the right. likewise, huge amounts of what is allegedly "bad" about the right is very fitting of the left. the only difference is - for a long time, a very long time - the left has had superior PR, and the "underdog advantage". meanwhile, the utter impotence of the left means even if they could live up to their claims, they wouldn't be able to do anything. meanwhile, the essential talking points will continue to echo and give the warm fuzzy, totally unearned, and utterly false sense that the left is correct, and is on the "right side of history". someday, the bill will come due, and the left is going to be shockes at how they were routed by the people they thought were just morons.

>lainchan has turned into a nazi site. >its disgusting

>>100024 > i want to hear how your intollerance will translate. Nta, but it's a culture thing. Lainchan /hum/ has a culture of entertaining basically any position because we're all spergs that waste our lives arguing online. An antifascist website would view fascist posters as lolcows to be mocked until they leave.

>>100025 images you can quite literally smell

I had a whole long ass post here that got dele ted I cant even remember who I was replying to but I vaguely wanted to address this. >>100004 At one point it was true just among the l ib crowd that the right knew the li bs arguments better than the lib s did the rights or even than the lib s knew their own. And thats still true among the l ibs, but it is not for the more up to date forward thinking lefti sts and by that I mean someone who doesnt only just know hegel and mar x but also knows more contemporary writers that came after him who were still ma rxist but commentated or criticized or saw problems or melded mar x with other philosophies. Even some le ftists who dont know these might have still received the signal through osmosis or from someone like ziz ek. The reason your saying this is because even before the a lt rig ht but definitely after them and after tru mp and after bann ons media b litz strategy and after bots generating p sy o ps and vitr iol online the hot new lef tist thought was that argument, debate, online posts, etc. are not pr axis at all not even in some small way. This really caught on after a few people did start taking the ri ght seriously and not underestimating them but it was bubbling around long before because le ftists and mar xists. This might seem like an ineffective strategy considering the right rose so much doing the opposite but for reasons I may get into later but am dreading have to type again that strategy in the current climate is antithetical to mar xism at its kind of core. To explain why something else popping up in this thread a lot is some people genuinely soykaf slinging na zi and fas cist some actually using it correctly and those on the right here or who are just a secret third thing seeing it all like soykaf slinging but I assure you there is rhyme or reason. The left has had an internal shift of viewing fasc ism as a core way of thinking instead of the products of those thinking (geno cide, dictatorship, oppression, etc.). Isr ael and its prop aganda engine deliberately feeding into global an tisem itism and even using bots to post antis emitic soykaf is a great example. The fasc ist has a myth, in this case isr ael, that isnt real but they want to make reality. Antise mitism was actually on the decline for awhile but this poses a problem because isra elis have to have is rael for the sake of all je w s and have to kill all the pale stinians because if they dont the palestin ians and neighbors will kill is rael and without israel the world will kill all the je w s. So if antise mitism declines even though that should be a good thing it means part of the myth of is rael also dies and it becomes not for the je ws but just another country gen ociding and trying to expand. It means je ws in the dia spora would have even less of a reason to support isra el or move there. Instesd of reevaluating what they are doing or easing up on the palesti nians the fas cist creates their own reality and sees it as just as valid no matter the cost, again not out of stupidity but willingly. it doesnt matter that feeding antis emitism puts more je ws in danger because the important thing is this myth or spirit of israel and its survival and you work backwards from there. After all when all the palestin ians are dead and isra els still standing 200 years from now and the various psy ops have led to so many actual anti se mitic incidents isnt at that point the myth real? The disposal of material reality or history or the reinterpreting of any statistic to always suit the myth all of this is seen as almost like noble or conviction. If you were on p ol pre 20 16 you probably remember during soykaf like ga mer ga te p ol would like ra id articles and soykaf critical of it and if the article referred to them as like all "angry wh ite men" they would make fake accounts pretending to be other race s saying they supported gam er gate or the a lt rig ht or whatever. This is what regardless if you agree cause again the left is mostly uninterested in arguing what the le ft refers to as fasc ist mostly to signal to eachother and less how it used to be where someones screaming your a fasci st to like make you feel guilt or something. The left knows there will not be any guilt but in an effort to rigorously eliminate from themselves even fascist thought naming when you see it and categorizing it becomes important. Because lef ties do also fall into fascist thought all the time, trying to shoo away questions about why the revolution didnt happen despite the material conditions of inequality marx predicted arriving. Or worse instead of trying to revisit what happened or what went wrong and revise the theory which the core of marxi sm is to be revised they posited things like voting for trump in 20 16 to "accelerate" a revolution or suggested trying to participate in chine se ps y-ops on america or somehow form a militant group and get a foreign nation on their side. These are also fas cist thoughts because they treat the revolution or comm unism as a myth to bring to life by any means necessary even if it changes it to no longer be an answer to these problems of inequality and suffering. If fasci sts somehow loved marx in some superficial way this would likely be their answer and some would say this is what various failed comm unist countries were doing. This is why fa scists are so good with memes and aest hetics and symbols and the le ft is not. A fas cist meme does not need to accurately describe something or get all the details right to be a hit with the fascist part of all ofnour brains, we just vaguely "know what its talking about" and so it doesnt matter if the meme relies on 500 assumptions or a bunch of other not super accurate memes. Which yeah thats how jokes should be only problem is to the fascist a meme is "just a joke" but simultaneously it will get slotted in as an accurate representation of something that hits at "the core" of whatever its making fun of and with time the person maybe forgets the me me but still holds on to whatever stra w ma n or lie was snuck inside it. Fasci st leaning and raci st movies and even just fantasy ones have historically inspired real life actions and groups and ri ots because to the fascist even though its "just a movie" its enough that it created feelings in them and that its something that "could happen" or "hit at something real". Same with online videos, someone points out a video is fake, fasci st response: "but things like this happen all the time". You dont typically see this with actual leftists, your supposed to feel something or have a laugh and a think but not be enraptured as becoming enraptured with stories and symbols backslides into fasci sm. This is also why comparitively particularly right now the leftist seems so ineffectual compared to the ri ght win ger, reactionary thought and vitriol and things that provoke strong emotion rule in a world so overloaded with talk and info theres no space or time for how the mar xist is supposed to communicate and yet trying to do the same removes what makes marxi sm wholly seperate from fas cism, so best to just move towards trying to act however possible and only talk amongst ourselves I had to put spaces in everything cause it was calling me a spa m m er and i dont know which word triggered it

>>100028 unreadable due to absolutely retarded formatting. fix your soykaf asshole

>>100027 Out of morbid curiosity, but WHY do they smell like that?

>>100030 consider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJQk6jO6fuE