Prison Experiences

Anyone have experiences in prison here? What's it like? What was the routine, how did you feel about it? What was it like when you got out- what changes were there with now having a record, how did the different lifestyle feel/compare?

I have some friends who went to prison though it may have been jail? So not hugely insightful here. From an outside perspective I can't say much is different about them except that they are a lot quicker to be violent now. Not unreasonably but like where previously they might have ran or submitted when scared they now are very quick to punch. Also this is semi fuarrrked up but we had a male cop stripper once for someones party not considering this and one guy went into fuarrrking ptsd mode and ran before he could start stripping and didnt stop running and was not answering phone thinking it was that police tactic where they use friends phones to call.

Depends on where you live. An old soviet satellite state prison, is different than a South American gang run prison, is different than a Nordic prison, is different than a US for profit prison. They are all soykaf, but how differs. For instance I talked with a guy who was in some north-east euro prison that was built in the late 1800s, no plumbing in the cells, so if they had to use a bucket if they wanted to soykaf or piss at night, there wasn't any heating, and the cells were locked mechanically so if the place caught on fire they'd all die. On the other there weren't many prisoners, they were all sane, and even the guards were apparently decent enough that there was never much violence or rape. On the other hand in American prisons people get pretty decent amenities and you don't starve to death if someone doesn't sent you food. However they are overcrowded for profit hellholes packed with the scum of the earth, the insane, and the rest of society's dregs. You're packed in like sardines and watched over by "guards" who would probably be criminals themselves if it weren't for their job where they can rape, beat, and terrorize people weaker than themselves. Because of the various racial/cultural divides create self segregating gangs, who operate on a tit-for-tat escalating violence model, so mass violence can break out easily. Joining a gang is basically obligatory if you want to be reasonably safe from random violence, butt-rape, or exploitation, but you will be forced to do soykaf that will almost certainly add to your sentance. You are expected to act as slave labor, and then charged huge markup for the slightest "luxury", such as sending an email, making a phone call, or even a packet of top ramen instead of the same slop day in and day out. Those are the "desirable" prisons, if you really fuarrrk up max sec seg prisons are just bunches of concrete boxes that you're shoved in and left to rot while your insane cell neighbor main entertainment is to scream 24/7, flood his cell with soykaf water you can smell, and attempt suicide having the guards break in loudly. The whole American prison system is designed to fuarrrk you up and make you come back because you are their product. Admittedly I've never actually been myself, but I read a lot of blogs by former/current prisoners and seen smuggled videos. Honestly as an Burgerstanian I'd rather try to blow away the cops who come to arrest me and get shot full of holes than get put into our prison system.

>>9937 That’s fuarrrking horrible. We need criminal justice reform.

>>9935 Cody, we are here for you.

>>9940 Cody is seriously fuarrrked if he actually ends up in prison. In the prison hierarchy the only thing lower than being a cripple or a bugout(mentally ill or retarded), is being a chomo (child molester or anyone with a sex violation). It's not uncommon for them to get their heads kicked in while the COs watch, or shanked by a gang member trying to rise up in the ranks.

>>9945 Isnt he too rich for those prisons though?

>>9946 That’s not how it works.

>>9947 >>9946 he can certainly buy a bunch of $2 text messages or emails and send them to the other criminals so they wont beat him. fun fact, people found out that if they save drafts and know each others logins, they can circumvent the pay system for some "prison IM" service. doing so also gets added time for exploiting a government IT system or something like that. overall, there are a number of different types of prisons in the U.S. the biggest difference is usually demographic. small town prisons are mostly junkies and other criminals where isolation is the norm, but in larger prisons, the gang presence is overwhelming, and many of the guards are just criminals in uniform. IIRC there was a hunger strike because the guards were embezzling money and then they beat and killed a bunch of people, and there was a whole website set up to monitor the situation because like >>9938 said it was escalating violence until the guards were not better than the criminals except they were the "good guys" in uniform. sometimes they just watch and laugh as the fights they are paid to break up end up killing a bunch of inmates. >More than 800,000 prisoners are put to work each day cleaning, cooking, farming and mowing, in some states compulsorily. In states like Louisiana compensation is as low as 4¢ an hour, even though prisons are entirely reliant on such labor. Despite this, the total control prison officials have over inmates puts strike organizers at a profound disadvantage. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/31/us-inmates-prison-strike-retaliation wage information by state https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/wage_policies.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwzenbBRB3EiwAItS-u3c-36qkFkFRkcSS2g-XKLYpxFId7hHC5AreDxEMvIlEqHaYNvr_uRoCGbUQAvD_BwE

>>9938 >I read a lot of blogs by former/current prisoners Care to link? Nice post, by the way >The whole American prison system is designed to fuarrrk you up and make you come back because you are their product. ^^^^^

>>9949 If they are by current prisoners, someone outside is obviously taking dictation for them. Sean Swain was doing audio reports that got onto weekly radio and podcasts until the prison authorities made him stop, see if you can find those.

>>9949 I read most of the smaller blogs were back when blogging was still popular about ten years ago, so I don't still have links to those, but you should check out the marshal project and similar criminal justice reform groups, those types tend to host the more cogent prisoner produced content. You can also just search for inmate/prisoner blogs and letters, but based on what I saw when I did just that the content is all over the place.

These might help your research, OP. http://www.rageuniversity.org/PRISONESCAPE.html

Did time in both jail and prison, most of my time was in jail. Jail was a lot more chill. That time is pretty easy comparatively. The prison I was in was pretty chaotic. I never got into the long term population units, just in temporary short-term transportation housing unit. The biggest thing about them is that it's LOUD. People constantly yelling between cells and tiers. It's like walking into a dog pound with all the constant barking. They had a fun little mail delivery system because there were small screw sized holes between the cells, so you'd pass a note through the hole with the destination cell number written on it, then pound the wall to carry it on. Transportation of physical goods while locked down was achieved by putting whatever it was you wanted to pass into a book, then sliding the book down the tier. Recipient would toss out their laundry bag across the tier to act as a road block, then you'd try to fish in the book before the guards got to it. Really weird nostalgia writing all this.... Breakfast was awful. Every morning was bologna sandwiches. If you were lucky they would sometimes have the kind with peppercorns in it. I also learned how to cook a hot bologna and cheese on a light bulb. If you were lucky you had a high wattage incandescent that would get hot enough to toast bread. You'd make your sandwich then stuff it inside a sock, then wrap that over the lightbulb for about ten minutes or so. One of my favorite memories was on Christmas morning, just because of how peaceful it was. Nobody wanted to be awake for Christmas in prison. I stayed up after breakfast, everyone else went to sleep. And for the first time since I was there, it was actually quiet during the day. It was snowing that day, and the wall opposite of the cells were windows. Like, three stories of these small glass panels, with a good number of them broken out. If you lived on the bottom tier your toilet would sometimes freeze over in the mornings.... Anyway, Christmas morning they gave us a hot cocoa packet to go with our bag of milk. I heated my milk up on the bulb and drank hot cocoa. I sat on the writing table just staring at the snow drifting in from outside. It was probably one of the single most peaceful, serene moments of my life, I'll never forget it. I definitely changed for the better. I don't think I can look back at my life and call myself a man prior to my time in prison. I didn't get into any of the racial clique soykaf (though I had some guy try to convince me to. I told him I wasn't down with that racist soykaf, he said "It's not racist, it's being proud of your heritage." LOL). It definitely made me grow the fuarrrk up in a way that no other experience could have. That being said, once I was out the system definitely tries to keep you in.

>>9939 Indeed, my specific gripe with it involves drug crimes. I think that more than anything has more corruption and evil centered around it. From asset seizure, to unfair weight placed on drugs used by "certain types" of people, it's not meant to protect its meant to get people and make money. Nobody should feel like the police are out to get them, nobody should be in a situation and think "should I call the police? I mean I just got robbed but what if they shoot the guy I dont want him dead". I've calmed down a bit from my severely anti police days , I used to never call the police for anything. In part because druggie and in part it was a moral thing.

>>11641 Congrats man, would you say it could have gone other way? Like you made the most out of prison and turned out better but do you think this is common/likely? I'm not fishing for a certain answer btw just actually curious. Also good on you for not getting caught up in the racial soykaf, I imagine it's very easy to.

>>11645 It easily could have gone another way. I can definitely see why people end up coming out of incarceration further entrenched in criminality, especially where they don't have much education or work experience or other job skills. If you're a career criminal, it's like criminal summer camp. You run into old friends and talk shop all day, shop in the case being various crimes. I don't mean for the education thing to come off as condescending or anything like that, I think it's a legitimate problem where that's all they know how to do, and without any real viable alternatives for making decent money it's easy to fall back to their old ways to try to get by. I've started multiple jobs with some pretty big institutions, fully disclosing my record to everyone in the process and being told that's all fine and dandy, only to have the rug pulled out from underneath me after I've already started working there. The walk of shame when losing a job for something you did over a decade earlier is probably one of the lowest feelings. If I weren't as privileged or didn't have the support system I do with friends or family, it would be very, very difficult to resist the pull of crime.

>>9937 Why was your friend so afraid of police? I imagine the guy is going to get mocked for the rest of his life about doing this or that crime.