Molly Millions · 2026-03-08 11:11
I will preface this by saying that I won't explain the context of what led me to Schopenhauer in the first place because it's a long story. But I will say that he has always been appealing to me, I just never looked too much into him. But I ordered a copy of Essays and Aphorisms (a compilation of short works authored by him) and I haven't even finished it yet but I am in love. I haven't been this into a book since I was a kid. His worldview is like a fully fleshed out ideology constructed from things I've thought for so long. There are even notable ideas of his which I already came up with before reading him. When I finish this I plan on reading The World as Will and Representation.
I want to ask other Pessimists:
- Who are your favorite Pessimist authors besides Arthur?
- Are there any online Pessimist resources that you like?
I also want this to be a general thread for Philosophical Pessimism.
Batou · 2026-03-08 13:15
>The World as Will and Representation
i am using that book for my reasoning engine.
Bob Arctor · 2026-03-08 19:44
He's great. I definitely respect him highly for his ideas and how many people he has inspired, but he is no doubt a product of his time. His writings are mostly generalizations from then so some of his philosophies are outdated. Liked his Porcupine dilemma though.
>Who are your favorite Pessimist authors besides Arthur?
Not really a pessimist myself but I like Pessoa. Bernardo is already an unhappy, quiet person, but I have heard that de Campos is even more pessimistic. Some other of his characters are also incredibly tragic like Maria Jose. That one is easily the most depressing pieces of literature I have ever read. It didn't even feel like I was reading his character. It felt like the real mind of a real person who was in such a terrible scenario with absolutely no hope. Great read, nonetheless.
Bob Arctor · 2026-03-08 19:59
I know nothing about Schopenhauer other than that "he was a pessimist". What should I know about him?
Unspecified · 2026-03-08 20:17
>>96974
him pretty much coming up with the will as a philosophical concept
Six · 2026-03-10 15:01
>>96974
His worldview wasn't entirely doom and gloom, but he taught that life was moreso suffering than happiness. He was also the biggest influence on Nietszche.
Nanashi No Gombe · 2026-03-11 16:14
Shoppie seems like a good first step to forge your own meaning but I intuit that there's more to life than his philosophy (picrel) encapsulates.
Crash Override · 2026-03-16 08:39
>>96970
>Wah, the man
Kuddos to have gotten Molly Millions for that post, with that picture. Totally on point.
Bobby Newmark · 2026-03-20 17:49
People like to call philosophical pessimism as "edgy" but they really don't never have any actual arguments against it and just go about the rest of their day thinking humanity is some super special divine species of kindhearted people
Cereal Killer · 2026-03-21 08:44
>>97140
You can't have any arguments for, or against it. All philosophy is drenched in personal experiences and subjectivity. He had specific experiences because of his environment and his innate nature and therefore ended up with specific conclusions, which don't have any objective measure. The only use of it is that some people who've had similar experiences might relate to it and find it useful. If he had had different life experiences he would've had a completely different philosophy. There's nothing you can debate here because you're not trying to figure out some objective truth that you can repeatedly reproduce in nature without human subjectivity involved.
Debbie Charteris · 2026-03-21 11:03
>>97152
no soykaf sherlock, obviously every experience is subjective. welcome to basic epistemology, retard.
>>96970
mainländer would be my favorite author probably. he hanged himself on april 1st after getting first copies of his Die Philosophie der Erlösung