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It's an interesting commentary on Japanese work culture that a startup exists to tell the boss an employee wants to quit. So different from the US where people can just up and go Obviously there are cultural factors involved, but still kind of fascinating as a window into how things are done in different cultures https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/08/28/business/startup-takes-stress-fed-workers-exit-plans/

I didnt click the link, but your post made me recall that syndrome of men who go into deep depression once they retire because their jap values overemphasize serving your (corporate) master

It's really fascinating. Becoming part of a company over there is like entering a second family, albeit one that demands all your time and dedication. Retiring from a life of that must be a punch to the gut, what with nothing to do and no one to do it for....

>>9585 >another family Don't they literally have a saying that's basically "the company is mother, the company is father". It's cyberpunk dystopic as fuarrrk.

>>9586 there's a reason so much cyberpunk stuff is japanese in origin or nature

>>9589 Well, part of its Japanese "nature" has to do with the strength of the Japanese economy in the 80s, when the genre defining works were written.

>>9577 I will try and help you understand this. Japanese culture stresses putting nearly every level of society ahead of the individual. Your immediate family is more important than yourself, and so forth. Japanese culture has respect and deference for elders/leaders so ingrained that for most Japanese people working in a western style start up company is unthinkable. You have to understand that it is *expected* that your job will help you take care of every single aspect of your life. Your salary will be calibrated based on whether your boss thinks you are ready to marry. Your boss may even help you find a wife, and when you do get married your salary will be adjusted to buy your wife x number of gifts a year depending on your role. Upward mobility is only fleetingly possible, and most Japanese people are conditioned to accept that as a price of an orderly society. That all said it's not as Orwellian as it sounds. Japanese culture just has a thing for "cultivating" activities. They want to do a king of feng sui on every single aspect of life, and environments where you have a lot of personal initiative don't jive well with that goal. It is impossible to keep things so immaculate when people are out experimenting. Experimenting is very messy. Gradually, Japanese people have slowly accepted start up culture but it does not at all come naturally to them at a cultural level. It makes more sense in their head to copy an existing thing and *perfect it to a science* than to try some crazy untested idea. If you read stories about Japanese R&D firms (story of blue LEDs comes to mind) you get an idea for just how different their mindset is. This is all in some way comforting to them in many cases.

>>9593 the same effect is observable in eastern and western children solving puzzles, the western children do better when they are allowed to select one, and the eastern ones do better if they are told their mother picked the puzzle