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What do we do about immigration?
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2025-12-08 12:58
>Europoor
It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.
It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.
So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
Elliot Alderson · 2025-12-08 13:42
>if western corps weren't raping the third world
commi detected
Unidentified · 2025-12-08 13:50
>>95614
>if western corps weren't raping the third world
LULZ
Armitage · 2025-12-08 13:52
>How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
Absolutely positively. The only amendment that needs to be made is to kick out the soykaf skinned degenerates. It's really not that hard to tell a criminal and an ok dude, I think. Not if you know what you're doing. Maybe that's the problem, people who manage immigration don't give a soykaf or something.
Cypher · 2025-12-08 14:10
Hey, I'll summarize how things ended up this way.
>create manufactured tension between men and women
>broadcast this tension from every possible mainstream media platform for 30+ years
>migrate wealth from working class to upper class for decades
>let housing prices explode
>suppress wages
>line goes up, rich gets richer
>birth rates nosedive
>import culturally unfit cheap labor from third world
>this cultural unfitness is on purpose
>new migrants can't integrate and demand better working conditions like locals
>this creates endless problems; increasing crime rates, increasing drug trade, terror attacks and assaults on women and children
>the solution is techno fascism
>everyone must have a tracking device on them 24/7, every street must have facial recognition CCTV systems (being implemented in UK as we speak)
>create a problem, offer a solution, which necessitates the complete surrender of privacy and freedoms
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2025-12-08 16:21
>>95614
Mass migration is to cover up sharp declines in the population from things like the vax.
Debbie Charteris · 2025-12-09 09:47
It started falling apart when we abandonned the selective and restricted immigration and tighter laws.
Bobby Newmark · 2025-12-09 12:09
>>95633
Yeah, immigrants should really need to be able to prove that they have the means to support themselves, or are supported by someone reputable. Ironically if you don't declare that you're a refugee, this is the standard that usually gets applied.
>>95617
>It's really not that hard to tell a criminal and an ok dude, I think.
How do you tell a criminal from an ex-criminal? How do you tell a legitimate-looking family from drug mules? There needs to be clear processes and standards for this.
>people who manage immigration don't give a soykaf or something.
It's worse than not caring. It's that they're corrupt. The US border patrol actively participates in human trafficking. ICE is basically modern-day slave catchers. I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar in other countries too.
Nanashi No Gombe · 2025-12-09 12:59
>>95634
>Yeah, immigrants should really need to be able to prove that they have the means to support themselves, or are supported by someone reputable.
This really should be the standard. Especially in this age with cringe e-dating.
Just provide something in return of taking your place in wherever you are taking home. at worst, the immigrant can provide nothing, with the promise of being able to provide in the future, but should never be a net negative.
Isn't this the standard for NA rn? I've stopped following this topic since a few. I can only care for what is affecting me rn. Only catching glimpse of headlines of what is happening in the US.
Mitnick · 2025-12-09 15:39
>>95635
Immigration in to the US has been basically uncontrolled for a long time, now they barely let anyone in, and they're deporting a lot of people that have jobs and contribute to their community. Massive overcorrection.
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2025-12-09 16:24
>>95615
>>95616
I don't even get what's the problem? The only reason not to rape the 3rd world is due to AIDS.
But really, just don't let them in. Like nigga, just sink the boats lmao
I was a soylib once too but immigration from these places has convinced me that most of what europeans did was 100% right and justified. These people are closer to animals than civilized people and you're either too sheltered or your theory of mind is too underdeveloped if you don't get that.
Truth is, you can close borders on short notice and severely enforce them any day. You can remove anyone from your territory whenever you want as a population.
Hell, if there's the political will you can even have mass hangings at a public square of those rape gangs and their enablers, in the open, with nobody meaningfully objecting.
John Rain · 2025-12-09 16:31
>>95637
The left and right sides of government are part of the same process. Letting in lots of immigrants provides the excuse for tightening control and surveillance of the population in order to fix it, while the theater of each side fighting against each other distracts the population and makes them feel like they 'win' every several years.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2025-12-09 17:41
>>95637
It's bigger than that. They are trying to emulate the Chinese police state and top-down management of their economy as a last ditch attempt to stay ahead and retain their global influence. We shall wait and see how that works out for them. In the interim, I hope there is more push towards digital data sovereignty and decoupling from American tech around the world. I am appalled by the insane public commentary made by big-tech and defense industry CEOs in the Silicon Valley and I am sure I'm not alone on this.