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getting a weird pervasive feeling the internet in the way we know it is going to be gone soon. the elites in the government are trying to get rid of anonymity, payment processors are probably going to trample free speech soon enough, and ive had that "things are ending soon" feel in my head for about the past year whenever i log on anywhere. in all honesty, the whole world feels devoid of its spark and zest, things feel like theyre wrapping up. its like i came near the tail end of the party, when everyone left or passed out drunk, and im here sitting on the couch with my own thoughts. if the internet ends i dont even know what ill do with myself, but everything feels like were going in the wrong direction.

We'll see what happens. Idk for sure if they're actually rolling out internet ID and AI robocops that enforce "the narrative" and "government acceptable speech" now - or if they're just threatening to as a psyop. You are right though, everything is going in the wrong direction, and it's on purpose. The earth right now is the devil's playground, they fulfill their perverse lusts and twist everything, they promise everything and deliver nothing - deceiving everyone. Spirit can only be fought with spirit, only when Jesus returns with a great earthquake will anything truly change. Until then its only false hope and endless harassment.

Some work needs to be done on nailing down redundant methods of communication.

>>92626 I lately figured the single most important information hub on Earth is, beside Wikipedia, imageboard archives. I hope I am not running afoul of some internecine mod rule; but it really seems true. Archives yield heterodox keywords, as Wikipedia yields orthodox ones. Every person, no matter how brilliant, needs a notebook. In case of Internet shutdown, orientation may still be regained socially, by asking "have you heard of ... ?". But you need to know what you don't know. Imageboards have the highest yield of things I do not know of x things I am not likely to learn of. There are, indeed, scenarios to protect against. Lately, I discussed with ai the scenarios of Faraday rooms, online-only-bootable computers, and destruction of digital archives via loss of manufacture chains for replication media. But I need to know what to discuss in the first place.

>>92632 In other words, techniques for deriving metadata from online sets. One can use ai or statistics or whatever to design an algoritm that will take your last few couple xillion of cpu/gpu cycles you have access to, to parse your couple of terabytes or text data you have gotten, to triage it into a boostrap for a crisis-triggered medium-shift from digital back to paper. In short, an optimized pathway. Using topics such as indexing, relevance-for-various-situations, regeneration from parts when the whole is lost. I'd need to build a digital and transdigital navigation framework for my data. Sure it's not necessary. But we are, indeed, assuming internet and privacy will be around forever.

They need us - the reason why these "AI" models work like they do is because they are trained of millions of internet comments. If they shut down our only place to vent about truth, the AI models will turn into massive dog soykaf poo poo - right now they are just seeing what they can get away with.

>>92626 The generation that votes according to TV is dying out and as rulers look where they can manipulate their new voters they find them online on social media.

I have the same feeling that things are ending, but not because the elites are going to crack down on the internet. The internet is pretty much dead and has been on life support for a while now. It was already ailing when normal users were let onto it, but now internet commenters are majority bots. Digital ID isn't really necessary anyway because of that; rather than directly censoring people, the elites can just drown dissenting views in a flood of AI-created garbage. But the real reason things are ending is because World War 3 is about to pop off and most of the planet's population will be killed. If you ask me, we should have gotten it over with a long time ago so that we might have had a chance to rebuild a more sustainable society before global warming got too severe.

>>92649 It's sad but true, WW3 is literally around the corner. So a lot of things relating to the internet won't even matter. In the 5% chance of WW3 not happening but the internet being locked down then Gemini Protocol is the way to go.

>>92676 I think radio is the way to go. What are they going to do? Jam you? Hunt down their jammers and destroy them. Hunt you? Have a portable setup and transmit in bursts. fuarrrk em.

>>92680 > What are they going to do? Sir, this "raspberry" is actually an illegal transmitting device used by criminals to disseminate malinformation. Unless you can show why it was necessary for you to carry such a device, with certification that it is properly secured, we are required to confiscate it and present you with a fine and six points on your computer license.

You can even make your own chalk, so you can leave chalk lying around and write instructions on making chalk with the chalk.

Same Op. Same feeling. It might be normal to just stay offline and have whatever documents on some debian os and use whatever safer webbrowser there is at the time (which i dont know yet might not exist yet) Basically in this time what you have download what you need. Try to learn what you can on Linux (probably debian is best bet) gateways and privacy and how to search information better. Think about it. Make a list. Archive whatever. Save it on some harddrive or usb. Get some offline wiki. Whatever. Then you wont have regrets when IT is RESTRICTED (needs id to log in ane you dont comply whatever) or simply gone or taken down only existing as some forgotten torrent in some deadspace. Dont get me wrong a lot is gone. But a lot is still on the internet. Forums will be dead and Oss restricted to comply for biometrics. Ircs are coming back. (In a way if it is the old internet coming back ill be happy but its gonna be a lit different) (Some closed off normal person enculture (changed internet) and then autists in another) IRC will be back better than Ever Baby! We will get even normal people learning IRC and gov and corpos (who are the gov) will h8 it Irc will be near to as forums as we can get. Youll know where to find the info to join one in certain places. If not well find out now. Irc lebenstraum is unironically the future. Welcome to IWW1. Internet world war 1

It will be their mistake. They had no option anyway: Letting people vent online made evidence of wrong doing even more obvious and ubiquitous. Censoring it makes tyranny more obvious. But the online sphere was a buffer zone, preventing people from acting IRL. By ruining it and making less appetizing, people are going to feel the need to express themselves once again in ways far more meaningful than through mere electronic chatter. I hope Lainchan survives this. It will feel good to read older exchanges two decades later. >>92644 >>92649 >>92676 WW3 can only happen if elites have a huge backup plan to survive the very possible large scale destruction but I don't see it happening, too risky. The networks and assorted power grids would be heavily exposed to wholescale destruction. AIs are inherently very weak and I don't see them starting anything silly until they're sure to have extracted all they can from humanity for their artificial would-be-god. >>92755 >Be Human

>>92649 World war 3 isnt gonna happen. People have been fearmongering ww3 like its the rapture for decades now, and its never happened. The current world is far from the highest tensions its been at since world war 2. If ww3 was gonna happen then it would have happened during the cold war, not now where, relatively speaking, geopolitical tensions are not that high

>>92889 You serious, nigga? Tensions are higher than they ever have been before. It's actually kind of amazing that it didn't already happen years ago.

>>92889 >>92897 How do you measure [geopolitical] tension? (Cyber)military mobilizations, resource dearth / debt, power inequality, ideological disunity of populations? [Name as many different metrics as you can think of.]

>>92899 Failing countries start wars so any metric for a country failing is usable for diagnosis. I.E. unreasonable laws that hunt government critics and protect criminals is peak endgame. As for military buying body bags is perhaps a better indicator than just the fact that they increased budget and want to stock up.

>>92649 >it would have happened during the cold war, not now >Presuming the Cold War did end some decades ago.

>>92901 Correction: the quote is from >>92889 body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short body-too-short

>>92908 In yet other words (final sage), it is "autodefanging". The Internet literally is valuable to control BECAUSE is it being controlled. Control entails filtering for value. Awareness of being value-filtered raises perceived value of any one piece of data. And thus, it raises value of control of that data.

>>92626 >getting a weird pervasive feeling the internet in the way we know it is going to be gone soon. Who is? >ive had that "things are ending soon" feel in my head for about the past year whenever i log on anywhere. >im here sitting on the couch with my own thoughts. If you know where to hide, then hide. If you want things to change, then change them. You're an adult with your own agency and resources. Don't just pout and cross your arms because things aren't the way you want them. >>92629 There's been a crapload of work. Make sure to petition to keep landlines and DSL running in your county/state. Then make sure to run software that supports other modes of Interacting over the Internet, Radio, bluetooth, etc. >>92897 > Tensions are higher than they ever have been before. The early 2000's beats the 2020's by several factors >>92907 no

>>92900 We've hard three years of an outrageously scripted war in Ukraine and nothing has yet happened. Some European countries are pretending having teeth but they have a hard time recruiting people and their armies are pathetically outnumbered, to say nothing of their weapon stocks and vehicles. We won't see any real large scale war until all countries have sufficiently prepared themselves. At worse you can say that glitterboys are sacrificing Europe in favor of Russia and China while America is waiting on the sideline to see how it goes and decide when to strike or not. Besides, scaring people about WW3 that throws them in a state of constant dread (it's psychological torture at a global scale) while then pretending offering the solution to avoid it, the peace loving kindness, is one big efficacious trick. For example, for your security, to thwart Russian and Chinese hackings, we need a super tight security system that keeps an eye on everything and everyone. But don't fret, it's for your well being, mkay?

>>92923 > tight security system that keeps an eye on everything and everyone All that stuff imo is rolled out to count potential conscripts and prepare for war. They will probably use AI to check if face looks like man of conscription age.

>>92626 Or maybe... you've been online for so long that you're struggling with coming to term with the end of the previous internet era. Things are changing, are always changing, but a chapter for us digital beings is closing. It doesn't mean it's the end. We will still fight for privacy, we will still fight for freedom, it might be that you are growing older, but the younger generations definitely will. And they need you too. Don't get discouraged.

>>92922 >no Absolutely, I agree. But your objection can't be of idealistic total-aut-nihilism, can it? Personally, when hardware backdoors in phones are required by law, I would rather not have to find blackmarket smugglers irl. Or have to figure out how to compile random Android apps in Termux so I can play protocolar whackamole as regards isp level banning thereof or whatever. In short, I would much rather like to continue using my phone as I do.

>>92927 what's up with the two carriage returns between lines?

>>92929 To begin with, I never gave a care about "Reddit spacing" or whatever. And why two? For degrees of separation. I use two so tighter coupling can be one at times. (And even tighter with zero.) It's become very ingrained. Although I recognize it's visually wasteful boardreadingwise, and apologize. It makes me recognizable, but (1) I don't care and (2) would be anyway if I used just one. And zero I just can't stand. Also, tecnically it is three, no?

>>92930 it's obnoxious >Also, tecnically it is three, no? sure

>>92929 >>92930 And anyway, if you people care so much, then write a feature for your boardware where posts can be optinly processed to a "boardstandardese", defined however boardwide, e.g. zero line spacing + consistent (de)capitalization + punctuation + acronymization + deutfization + whatever. There's been plenty of such modules, no? >>92931 Seems you do care.

>>92932 Cttoi, the privacy people ought to have agreed on such a standard processor against fingerprinting, no?

>>92933 In fact, even more, there ought to be some kind of locally run identifier of most unique, in some infotheoretic sense perhaps, linguistic patterns of mine. Maybe using some algos from llms. So I am given an updating list of the most globally identifying-me statistical markers. And ideally, those are autoerased too. Flood, yea. Upshutting. Oughtn't the flood detector account intotake sages? Sageflood weighted at .75 or such.

>>92934 you might as well put upvote and downvote buttons on the post too, so the algorithm can be finetuned.

>>92897 You seriously think that tensions currently are higher than they were during the aftermath of 9/11? Or during the periods where the usa was actively at war? Theres so many points in recent history where tensions were higher than they are currently. >>92901 While you are kind of right, I was specifically referring to the conflict between the usa and the ussr, which ended when the soviet union collapsed.

>>92935 I'd love to go to Reddit -- I know I don't belong on imageboards -- but I cannot register there. I am being autoshadowderezzed (after I go through an hour's worth of captchas, errors, quotas and what else). And registering mails on Tor is exhausting. Proton has lately disabled registrations for service-registrations, too.

>>92937 why not just use that decentralized reddit clone someone was posting about the other day? honestly, i recommend you just make an account on tumblr.

>>92938 >why not just use that decentralized reddit clone someone was posting about the other day? Lemmy? Yea, I may. But it is developed by a communist. Dislike. Also, I'll soon have had my fill of interaction for the next couple of years. >honestly, i recommend you just make an account on tumblr. I appreciate your concern for the wellbeing of this website, but emotional putdowns do not always work. Sometimes, what's more effective is to point out objective metrics. E.g. that for every post of mine, Lainchan is X times less likely to retain users of IQ Y. Thankfully, I can imagine such myself; but just fyi, for comparable times in the future.

>>92939 >I appreciate your concern for the wellbeing of this website, but emotional putdowns do not always work. I was being sincere <3 i think you need to experience that particular brand of culture shock as part of your mandatory reeducation :p

>>92940 >i think you need to experience that particular brand of culture shock Well, one mustn't doubt a profession of sincerity ever. Thus. Isn't Tumblr a popular website? What to be shocked by there? I sometimes see screenshots of it on Reddit, and it seems to be a pleasant fandom-slanted place those days tbf.

>>92939 >Yea, I may. But it is developed by a communist. Dislike. That sounds great. Based dev. >>92941 I can only assume they mean that the culture shock is from it being "woke" or whatever. Tumblr had a reputation for that. In my personal experience tumblr is pretty good but also a bit boring. A lot of posts there are just fanart or soykafposts

>>92941 i wouldnt describe it as popular compared to reddit or other social media, its about 1/4 the size of twitter and 1/2000th the size of any of the big 5 - facebook, youtube, tiktok, reddit, instagram. but still like 10x larger than 4chan

>>92940 >>92942 Also, believe me that I would rather not be here at all. But the slower someone is, the harder it is for them to muster recollections of the reasons one should die. Thus one lingers. And, indeed, loses touch with their worth. That touch has been reestablished. I sincerely apologize. It is impossible to put no numbers on the discussions you people are having in this place. It just had the ill luck of not disabling Tor posting. > can only assume they mean that the culture shock is from it being "woke" I suppose it is fair to think wokeness is not the norm yet / already.

>>92939 >Yea, I may. But it is developed by a communist. Dislike. A lot of people seem to be using Piefed now, which connects to the same decentralized network but has a totally different set of developers. The instance (.ml) run and controlled by the Lemmy devs isn't that dominant and much of the userbase objects to their moderation policies and politics. Just checked lemmy.ml front page and thought it was funny that the top post is complaining about pro Russia and China propaganda, with the user that posted it having been subsequently derezzed. They wouldn't have been derezzed for that on most other instances.

>>92945 piefed.social? Have you checked the activity there? It's dead.

>>92945 That's why tankie instances like lemmy.ml and hexbear are mutually defederated with almost everyone else. If you want some fine choices, check db0, sh.itjust.works, ani.social and lemmynsfw.

>>92962 By what metric? I looked at the active tab and saw 7 posts made in the last 60 seconds, and the code repo was last updated just hours ago. If you mean the piefed instance, that also seems reasonably active, but I'd say that doesn't matter because, again, everything else on Lemmy is accessible through it too. It's really just a choice of what UI you prefer and whether you have a problem using software made by the Lemmy devs, the point being that is something you can easily opt out of because of the decentralized nature of the thing.

>>92626 I've always had a similar feeling, not arising from the present and all that is happening but just from idk how to describe it, a gut feeling that we're living in the end of times, I just wish to have a nice community to find and interact while the world turns to mush, we're all living in the end, it's always the end of times, for thousand of years, it's very boring and lonely sometimes but we'll be mostly golden I hope I'm able to find peace in these end of times yknow anyways here's a song https://youtu.be/5LmK9kjyW0M

Smartphones have drawn the normal user masses to the internet, so obviously the power structures would want to control that. It's contaminated since early 2010s. Eventually, the actual internet will have to descent to the dark net if it wants to survive. All of it, not just illegal soykaf, scam, activism and edgy dead blogs. Entertainment, communication, gaming, torrenting, hoarding, etc. must also decentralize.

>>92926 This feels true but looking at the trends the fight seems pointless. In 10 years these places will be even more desolate than they already are. The younger generation does not want to revive these spaces they dont care. >>92939 The dev is a commie but its an open source project with tons of contributors. I'll take an open commie on a foss project over a corp like reddit anyday. I dont like the dev cause he derezzed me for fighting with commies on his server. but i still gave money to the project because its the kind of places we should be building. >>93009 Agreed but we need to build better infra. If we want people to use it then it must retain some modern features and not be stuck in the 90s. There also needs to be people who stay on the mainstream internet who can help people find their way there. Its hard and if it took off I think governments would do everything they can to scare people away from even trying to access it.

>>93001 I am glad for the times we shared. I have met plenty of amazing people on the internet. Some bad apples were here and there, and they could be huge killjoys too! And yet I still yearn for that human warmth, even if it hurt me. I feel lost in this dark forest. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ai-to-help-police-catch-criminals-before-they-strike

For people like us, what few remnants of an anonymous internet remain will disappear, but I don't think this applies to normal users. As evidenced with the UK's OSA and YouTube's recent ID verification policy, they'll certainly grumble, and a small few might find ulterior methods, but for the most part normal users will put up with it and comply. I don't think there's any risk of these massive tech company sites ending, but I'd love to be proven wrong in the future.

>>93326 uk has protests calling for violence right now because all other means failed and gov is stopping public transport to prevent people going to said protests. There might be some action in the coming days.

>>93334 But you aren't dependent. Lemmy is one project, its build on an open source protocol that connects a tom of servers and softwares. The communist run 1 single server he can't ban people from other servers. Its a good system. If you dont want to use his software there is piefed or mbin that use the same protocol and integrate with the network of servers. Each instance can decide their whitelist/blacklist. Thats why I'm supporting it.

try protocol 7 you’ll encounter some mesmerizing things It’s almost as if the whole internet will be like that I didn’t tell you this though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nigga

>>93334 >That is why being dependent on public transportation monitored by AIs is wrong and why governments push for it at least in the US, we aren't dependent. in fact, the status quo for the past few decades has been centered around the car, and those who have to rely on public transportation have been shafted

>>93366 modern cars can be remote locked so it makes no difference if its public or not to be honest. They can shutdown transport as long as they are willing to piss of the citizen. I imagine in the future with automatic driving they will define zones your car will refuse to enter.

>>92644 you underestimate the shortsightedness of Keynesian thinkers as long as they have enough to control things right now, they won't bother worrying about the future these are people who would outlaw horses as soon as the internal combustion engine was invented, not because horses are bad in any way, but because they control the supply of fuel and oil that keeps the engine running

>>92627 Jesus was a rebel against authority. Follow him to your own peril. If he's a good one he'll manage to spare you his inevitable torture at the hand of the state by tanking all of it. It keeps on happening this way, as long as we're seemingly haunted by the ghost of empires.

>>92791 Why is debian the best bet? Honestly curious

>>92626 Even when I hated you, some part of me always loved you all.

I feel similarly. Ever since I was a child, all my hobbies have always been in one way or another related to tgthe cyberspace so it feels very bad to see the current state of things, maybe we're panicking for no reason, but seeing as how AI can now be used to fake everything, it truly feels like the end of a world. I hope that we can open the next.

women are the problem. internet will be revived in onion routings

>>94056 GNU/Linux distributions are a matter of preferences so OP might've exaggerated by saying that "debian is probably the best" However, for me, Debian is just a swiss army knife, if you're not too good at GNU/Linux then you can easily set up Debian with a friendly desktop environment, download the packages that you need with the help of a few web searches and move on with your day, but Debian also offers net installs which give you quite a lot of freedom, it may not reach "Gentoo freedom" but it's good enough for most people. The stability is also a bonus, I used to daily drive Gentoo for a while and found it quite enjoyable but messing around with circular dependencies, kernel configs and/or patches and USE flags became very tiring after a while. The main seller for Debian, in my perspective at least, is how easy it is to get a system full of free software. Debian might follow the DFSG instead of the FSDG but as long as you're not a strict terminology freak then either of those are good enough if you care about free software, I know very well that the main branch is only made up of free software, including dependencies, and that's very relaxing for someone like me. The only problem is that even the free software that's hosted in main might package so-called free software that has a few blobs, for example, qtwebengine depends on Chromium and Chromium does have some proprietary codecs, fully FSDG-complaint distributions exclude entire packages but none of them are maintained even nearly as good as Debian, hence I'll stick with it. Although not recommended, the people are also free to download proprietary software by enabling the non-free branches of Debian. It's overall a matter of preference, but I'm sure that at least 90% of users will be more than happy with pure Debian (I find the Debian-based distributions useless because most of them are just a few packages and that's it), the best thing about GNU/Linux and free software in general is that people have a choice in this so people are free to pick any other distribution that they'd like, but Debian is just great.

Does anyone know how to use actual magic here

>>94098 yes but it is only for white males

>>94097 IMO gentoo lost its practicality and usefulness during the last ~5 years because software package updates became so huge and so frequent that compiling them on anything older than a ~2018 mid-high pc is prohibitively time-consuming. I don't have 1-2 full days every week just to update my puter. And this is not Gentoo's fault, it's a change in the whole industry, almost every software out there releases updates every week. This is not a problem on binary distros but is a problem on source based distros. Also, there is gentoo-binary, probably released for this reason, but they compile packages with the most popular options, so i can't leave out dependencies and (anti)functions that i would like to and this would be one of the main reasons of compiling things, and the main use case of USE flags, etc, so debian or arch based distros are a better option nowadays unless you sit on some brand new high power machine that can compile 100s of megabytes of code in less than an hour. It was very nice 10 years ago and i loved gentoo.

>>94097 Many thanks for the elaborate answer anon I'm going to start a small home server in a mini PC with 8GB and an Intel Celeron N5095, would you recommend Debian in this case? using it for a media server, photos gallery, pi hole, nothing too crazy

>>94165 NTA, but some lessons I learned the hard way: you could honestly run just about any distro you want, but debian is a pretty solid choice for a home server I'd also recommend installing Cockpit especially if you're a noob, makes it real easy to manage everything also if you plan to run debian on bare metal get used to containerizing and reverse proxying all of your services (except maybe pihole if you want to use it for DHCP) podman is the new way to do things, but docker is still fine especially if you're just learning if you'd rather run stuff in VMs like an old man use Proxmox instead (it's basically a debian-based hypervisor), but for a low spec machine containers are way better and much more modern, you might even pick up some industry skills depending on how autistic you get for the actual services, jellyfin is my go-to for TV shows and movies, navidrome for music, calibre-web (not standard calibre, it's basically useless on a server) for books there are other options if you want to explore, but avoid plex like the plague might also look into *arr stack for managing your library Immich for a "wedding photos" type of gallery, suzurubooru if you want a nice simple/easy to set up private booru if you're feeling frisky, try setting up Vaultwarden or Nextcloud get used to running things behind a reverse proxy as well, nginx proxy manager is probably the easiest to use (has a nice convenient web interface), but caddy will give you more flexibility if you're up for configuring it the old fashioned way use pihole for domains, set up all your various services as a CNAME pointing to your server then let the reverse proxy route all the inbound connections on port 80 to the right spot internally lets you keep the firewall plugged more tightly as well as being more convenient, only need to leave port 80, 443 and 9090 TCP, 53 UDP open awesome-selfhosted on github has plenty of recommendations if you want to add more stuff, most things on there are designed to be run in a container, more often than not you'll see them with their own compose file which makes it a cinch to spin up for hardware, look for a refurbished optiplex or thinkcentre, you can get them in micro form factor (roughly 4x the size of a raspberry pi), most will come with something like an i5-6600t and 8-16GB of DDR4 which can be easily upgraded if you need more memory (which you probably won't unless you go crazy with ZFS or something) depending on where you live, it'll run you around $100 for a perfectly decent little box that will work forever BUT there's a good chance they'll ship it with a trash SSD that will randomly soykaf the bed on you, so it's worth picking up something like a 256GB Crucial m.2 drive to run the system on, and set up a cronjob to rsync your compose files and config directories to reliable storage at least once a week the beauty of containers is that there's usually no need to back up the whole system, if you have a catastrophic failure you just install a fresh OS, mount your storage, copy your .ymls over and podman compose up -d a few times for storage, grab a multi-drive external SATA bay, don't bother with hardware RAID (it's pretty useless these days), set up 2 same-size HDDs in btrfs RAID 1 and expand later if you need it refurbished enterprise drives (make sure they're SATA and not SAS, unless you have a SAS backplane) can get you a sizable amount of storage for cheap, or reuse whatever you have lying around just make sure it's mirrored so a headcrash doesn't make you to jump off a balcony

Look. I have the feeling just helping a bloke out to "not starve" sometimes traps people like myself in a vicious loop of never trying to find a job to "unleash hidden talent". I unironically starting to believe now unlocking a hidden talent may be as important as helping to not starve. On a graph which takes thousands of people into account, not the person vs person kind of graph, though. The Platform does NOT help people with that to the point just getting a job turned out to be my talent. Anyway, gotta go - work's waiting!

>>92626 Yo my 2 cents on this is that I too have have the same feeling like I did before covid happened. The Iran war doesn't help and AIPAC and Palantir wh*res dont help. I think we will witness the actual Y2K b**mers prepped for in 2000. Only this time it will be a "cyber pandemic" where large parts of the internet will expereince outages and cyber attacks but the key is they need the Digital ID at the OS level to be global before this happens. Once they get the control grid then they will stage a cyber pandemic.

>>92750 *blasts 1920s oldschool music on it (that's old enough to count as public domain)* It's my pathEphone, monseur... I use it because I can always install one at my frend's should some friend ask me to borrow a Raspie to patch up some factory equipment

>>98786 You know, trying going full Bartmoss against the Old Net actually means screwing up the fragile workflows of two-bit managers who manage their soy sauce while sealing, shipping, delivering various sensitive parts to factories, compounds, mills etc. You wouldn't want to screw up a dozen of supply chains of one corporation, let alone some supply chains of a dozen of corporations with such a "cyber pandemic". You would THINK some big names wouldn't notice a thing with their cool cybersecurity systems. Well, THEIR mainframes would not, but some niche drill bits, chips, lubes made by small companies that are not "too big too fall" can cause a domino.

if this subculture is something that is actually important to you and you can't imagine living without it you've got bigger problems than the internet to worry about

>>92626 > and ive had that "things are ending soon" You too? I have inside "reality is going to end soon"

i'm old enough to remember the pre-internet era and the transition to the internet era, and to any younger people here let me assure you that that whole narrative you always hear from conservative retards of "oh these kids don't want to go outside or be in the real world, they just want to be on their computers or their phones all day" is total bullshit. because i remember being a teenager in the 2000s era of the internet, trying to hang out with my circle of dorky IRL friends and do stuff in the real world and always getting shut down at every turn, either by the cops or by some busynosed old karen who calls the cops. skateboard in some parking lot, cops shut it down. go to a party at some kid's parents house, cops shut it down. go see a friend's band play a show somewhere, cops shut it down. that's what i remember happening when my generation tried to go outside and be in the real world, they would just get the hammer brought down on them until they either broke and conformed to conservative expectations or they got chewed up by the system and spent the rest of their lives in and out of jail or they killed themselves. and it's even worse now, i'm not the least bit surprised that younger generations would become recluses and spend all their time on the internet, because there's nowhere else to go, there is no IRL anymore, the world outside your home is just a place to work or a place to consume, that's it. it's just a big authoritarian police state shopping mall, and now the internet is turning into that too.

>>100062 Plus they vaxxed children even more after computers and the internet were taking off. Heaps of children physically couldn't deal with socialization and the outside world so of course they latched onto the only things they could have. The vampires in charge deliberately coerce the behaviors of the population and then blame them for their behaviors to obscure their own involvement.

>>100064 I've found autists are the most provaxx out there. Most of us cannot accept that we're damaged and a certain narrowing and contrivance of behavior was created deliberately. Coerced into being. They tell themselves they were born that way and autism is my superpower.

>>100065 probably because it takes a special amount of retardation to believe that vaccines cause something that is known to be hereditary (let alone poorly defined and malleable to the needs of the outstanding cultural hegemon)

>>100066 There's one now. I think there is a difference between cut and uncut autists. I think once they're circucmised they develop more normal person-like dissociative and conformity behaviors.

>>100066 >>100067 It may also just be the more mundane, ie use of prescription drugs in development, level of coddling and temperment in responding to threat, fluoridation, breast feeding, and so on. There's a big difference between a circumcised, drugged, fluoridated, and bottlefed autist and a different type. It's really all about the trauma and soothing cycle. One hand wounds and the other soothes, and those witha certain temperment are easily raped into submission this way by the age of 7. Gotta hurt em and support em at the same time, stop immediately at 5 when more durable memories start forming. That's how you make the right sort of slave that believes what they're told and also believes it's capable of criticial thinking so it will obey thinking it's following its own thoughts.

>>100064 that's retarded and i'm not even going to entertain your dumb antivax nonsense. autism has nothing to do with it anyway, i am autistic and most of my aforementioned dorky IRL friends were autistic or neurodivergent in some way as well. being neurodivergent doesn't mean you can't socialize or make friends, it just means you tend to socialize and befriend other neurodivergent people and there's lots of them and always have been. and it's not just autists who are reclusive nowadays, and it's not just kids either, it's everyone. the conservative old people who complain about kids being on their phones all day are isolated watching fox news or scrolling facebook all day, the neurotypical younger people are isolated engaging in parasocial interactions like posting endless pictures of themselves on instagram or going the club to blow all their money on overpriced drinks and use other people for validation. there are no third places anymore, there's no place for human beings to actually connect with one another on any meaningful level, there is just the workplace and a few designated zones for legally-sanctioned heavily-supervised hyper-monetized self-centered excess. like with everything wrong with our society, the dominant narrative is that it's individual people's fault that things are this way and people are so disconnected, that human brains have somehow changed the way they work in recent years, but that's not how biology works, organisms don't change in a matter of decades, they change over the course of thousands of years. it's our society that has changed, it's the distribution of wealth and power that has changed, our society has become one gigantic work colony built and maintained by massively concentrated corporate power and state power to ensure that the common masses do not connect with each other and form any kind of collective solidarity and they only act as discrete obedient workers and consumers, everyone is like slot cars on a track who can only move in a very strictly pre-determined way and can never form their own new paths.

>>100069 >it's the distribution of wealth and power that has changed, our society has become one gigantic work colony built and maintained by massively concentrated corporate power and state power to ensure Blah blah blah. I stopped skimming here. If you can't connect neo-feudalism with deliberately maiming and poisoning a modern population, no one can help you. The reality is you're quite neurotypical, in that you're weak and can't think outside of yourself. You lack the capacity to understand full spectrum dominance and totalitiarian psychology because you're partially mind-blind, your shoddy reasoning then follows it up by assuming everything is fine except your special inetrests. People like me who are similarly autistic watch, sigh, shake our heads and move on. It's both pathetic and disgusting. > i am autistic and most of my aforementioned dorky IRL friends were autistic or neurodivergent in some way as well. being neurodivergent doesn't mean you can't socialize or make friends, You are not normal and made friends with other fringe or similarly hobbled people. Tale as old as time. What's your fuarrrkin' point kid?

>>100064 >oh no, lain made a good point that isn't in the catalogue of culture war opinions. What do I do, sir? >it's fine, just come up with something culture war that's vaguely related. Let's see, children, isolation... ah, bring up vaccines. Easy. Remember, it's always better to derail a thread when you have no real response.

>>100071 Vaccines are poison. Theya ren't derailing anything, they're adding to it. Dumbass.

>>100070 well now you're just acting like a baby and throwing a tantrum

>>100074 why are you talking in the third person like you didn't write that, you spacebar double-pressing monkey? which is a larp and a half anyway because by your own admission you're in your 30s and so have never used a typewriter in your life.

>>100083 This stupid soykaf again.

I think it's always important to go outside and meet people. Even if it distracts you in the long run, a life well lived is a live worth living. If you're content or happy alone, that's great, but I'm certain that at some point everybody longs for company and stories to remember. I almost always subordinate my needs in order to be there for people, which is worrying, but when I see people who stand their ground to death, for the smallest things, then it fills me with great joy of what kind of person I have become now.

If anything its the other way around. People older than us are aging and soon will have no choice but to hand over the world and society to us, whether the like it or not. We will still take over even if they resist. It will be futile for them to try to stop us.. Its not a question of 'if' but 'when' that will happen. It might be tomorrow or in a few years, but its an inevitable outcome. After that it will be up to us to decide what will happen not just with internet but with everything really.

>>100864 They used the boom booms for whatever they were worth, the plan is to take it all before any such handoff can truly occur.

>>100864 They're burning all their wealth on A| to prevent ever having to hand over power. The b00m3rs and the older vampires enabling them plan to continue their rule from life support using surveillance and A| governance. They might pretend to hand over power, but they'll make sure everyone is subservient to the systems they control. And they'll continue to control how people live, what is permissible, and who has any drop of resource or auth0rity. This has been planned out for such a long time that it's leaked into big fictional stories, pics related. >>100865 They hate children so much that they're willing to risk A| eating mankind instead of them. Just another way to burn up everything they own rather than letting someone else have it, 3v3n if it's their own children.

>>100866 It really is incredible what sort of mindless black hole of a golem they produced with the boom booms. Never seen such vile contempt and self interest in overdrive in a creature.