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I love art, but the current era's obsession with art and media is weird. Everyone just plays the current thing, talks about it for 2 weeks, then moves onto the next thing. It feels like fanbases are barely a thing now. If Final Fantasy VII first came out in 2023 would we even still be talking about it now?

>>83653 Fame singing in the highways, and trifling as she sang, with sordid adventurers, passed the poet by. And still the poet made for her little chaplets of song, to deck her forehead in the courts of Time: and still she wore instead the worthless garlands, that boisterous citizens flung to her in the ways, made out of perishable things. And after a while whenever these garlands died the poet came to her with his chaplets of song; and still she laughed at him and wore the worthless wreaths, though they always died at evening. And one day in his bitterness the poet rebuked her, and said to her: "Lovely Fame, even in the highways and the byways you have not foreborne to laugh and shout and jest with worthless men, and I have toiled for you and dreamed of you and you mock me and pass me by." And Fame turned her back on him and walked away, but in departing she looked over her shoulder and smiled at him as she had not smiled before, and, almost speaking in a whisper, said: "I will meet you in the graveyard at the back of the Workhouse in a hundred years."

>>83653 >In the future, everything will be trendy for fifteen minutes. -Andy Warhol (not really) To really simplify the "why" it's a direct result of modern mainstream culture being: >Algorithm driven >Broadcast to the entire population of the world, simultaneously, instantaneously. Back in the day, mainstream pop culture wasn't instantaneous, and wasn't automatically pushed by algorithms, and had to be discovered, directly - and largely through luck - channel surfing, or going through the racks at the store hoping for a good find, or indirectly - through magazines, internet forums, critics, and your friend who knows all the bands that play in your neck of the woods and always seems to have a line on the next big thing. This meant not everyone was on the same page with something at the same time and trends would have a while to pick up steam, stay in the public consciousness, and gradually fade out as the next big thing began to pick uo traction. Trends generally moved a lot slower before content curation algorithms became the means by which most people were exposed to new things. The biggest fault of content curation algorithms in the process of making pop culture arrive and fade out much faster is that it's fundamentally changed how most people approach the search for new culture, which is to say they don't; people expect culture to be brought to them, and content curation algorithms have essentially enabled "herbivore consumption" in which the modern consumer of culture has no need, or drive, to explore and find new things they might be interested in because the algorithm provides it for them. With content curation algorithms making the process of discovering something new near-instantaneous (you don't need to go to the record store when the algo just puts up something you haven't heard before next on your playlist) it's made trends a lot more flashy and a lot quicker to fade out because there's no time for the current thing to fade out and for the next big thing to be discovered. It just goes from big thing to big thing, and because of the way content curation algorithms work, the trend doesn't pick up speed, it just instantaneously goes to everyone, all at once. So the end result is people bouncing from one flavour of the month to the other. There's a lot of other factors (near-universal adoption of the internet and especially of smartphones, lowered barriers to entry in a lot of art forms, heavy sanitation and corporatization of (online) speech, the death of subculture) but content curation algorithms on all the "big" websites are, in my opinion, the number one cause of trends in the 2020's flashing fast and dying even faster. TL:DR the "why" is because of content curation algorithms, and to answer your question, OP, no, we wouldn't.

>>83655 When I look at my youtube feed, there's a strange feeling that everything is just "content" now. Even when it's about stuff I love, I can't get excited anymore because the uploader is probably treating it like something disposable; not as something they actually care about, but as grist for the mill, and the expectation is that you want to engage with it on that level too. You will have a superficial engagement with a million different things, but a deep engagement with nothing, until finally all traces of emotion disappear and what's left is a state of numb stimulation. A few days ago, I saw a post from a drug user saying he didn't get why fentanyl was so popular, since it basically just knocks you out. But doesn't that apply to TV too, though? And youtube? We use these things like a sedative, to stay awake and healthy but in a sense unconscious, totally zoned out, emotionally detached... it's weird when you think about it

>Everyone just plays the current thing, talks about it for 2 weeks, then moves onto the next thing. This isn't just limited to art. It's just how things are now that the internet has matured and social media has become the dominant platform. Something I have noticed with tiktok however is how "aesthetics" get streamlined. "Emo" becomes scene becomes "scenecore". Here's an excellent (terrible) video about it xd https://youtu.be/dMmhjGeXah0

It's just consumerism and overproduction where there is too much stuff out there to really get into anything

>>83658 pretty good video was expecting soykaf tier take got well thought out autism

>>83653 >Everyone just plays the current thing, talks about it for 2 weeks, then moves onto the next thing. No they don't. >It feels like fanbases are barely a thing now Incorrect information. >If Final Fantasy VII first came out in 2023 would we even still be talking about it now? Yes. Why are you lying?

>>83655 Poop culture is churned out at ultraspeed. There's no time for the dust to settle. Obsolescence is encoded in every product in a most bizarre way. As the world spins faster nobody can afford being stuck on what was trendy a week ago. You need to be in the "forever now". Fast food streamers gotta go fast too. At some point the delivery of fresh or barely heated up content to gossip about isn't even strong enough which forces the youdubs to look into the past and unearth old things, but only to quickly forget about them too. There is only one solution to this: create your own isolated bubble by suspending the insane flow time and hoping to merge with the bubble of other lainanons here. Thematic.

>>83657 >there is that phenomenon that's weird People reaching the flatline as a zone of comfort but refusing to let it go entirely. It's called the living dead state.

>>83653 >If Final Fantasy VII first came out in 2023 would we even still be talking about it now? It was the first final fantasy with 3D graphics. That's basically it. Most people didn't like 8 or 9 either so 7 is the one that stands out when people look back on that era.

Thats odd I feel like the opposite. I have a tiktok account where I just repost crap I want easy access too and occasionally for something very very small like some I have no mouth I must scream reference il get flooded with comments from what I can only assume are minors talking about the fandom for it and their accounts are full of fan animations and crap. Ive seen it for a lot of things, to me it seems like there is a fandom for literally every single thing from big stuff down to short stories to like some mildly popular youtube series from 10 years ago. I always find it sort of bizarre like how is this the thing your just super into.