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Having aspergers is like kicking dead whales down the beach very much. What is your experience? Any older lainanons have any suggestions as to how I can I don't know not feel this way?

>>83496 i've been trying to love autism/adhd for a long time. university changed so much for me and i think i've genuinely found my people. anywhere you can go to find likeminded people will be a happy place, as long as you're ready to accept that good things r coming :)

whats the problem exactly ? I am probably a sperger meself and apart from being a stupid fuarrrking idiot I think I turned out ok.

>>83496 bioray primary detox (mostly chlorella) & bioray bellymend help a bit. Overall though, I just had to admit I can't do and achieve things others can. Continually pushing to achieve other's and my own expectations just made me more sick and fatigued. It's delusional to think that everything can be achieved with just motivation and discipline. You can only do what you can do and there are very hard limits to that. Pushing past those limits brings chronic pain and lowered ability. People only think there aren't limits because society has such low standards, and celebrates sloth and inefficiency in their chosen nepotists.

I have more problem being misdiagnosed with this years back. I can not stop my bitch of a mother of going around telling everyone I have aspergers, sometimes she bumps it up to autism for extra attention whoring.

i have aspergers and am in a nationalist environment rn, last time a woman tried to put me in jail due to anti american sentiment, the moment she realized i have light autism, youve got to see the change in her manners, she felt so sorry in the first place. cause she realized im not a liar or arrogant im just autistic. it made me feel so sad

>>83531 i cried sm after, too. these are the best bits, really. the hypersensitivity and adjacent parts. we get to decide who we let into our weird little worlds ///////////////////////////antispam

>>83531 I am Asperger (nationalist) and it is my pleasure to arrest and torture persons exhibitioning anti American sentiment (straight to the Gulag like Comrade Stalin used to do). I am not SORRY to do this it is my duty and duty of all Patriots, but autism may be an excuse so long as your heart is true.

It's the least of my problems. I'm sure that if I'd grown up in a family that actually bothered raising me (not just keeping me alive and expecting me to learn things on my own), I'd have wound up as a guy who's a little weird but still more than capable of making friends, getting a date, passing job interviews, etc. I mean my dad's also a sperg, and if that was all it took to ruin someone socially then he'd have never married my mom, let alone had me. >Any older lainanons have any suggestions as to how I can I don't know not feel this way? Try to remember how your family treated you growing up and see if you can talk about it with others. Chances are your problems come less from being an autist and more from the way you were raised. So if people tell you that how you grew up wasn't normal, then you know you've got bigger problems. I would say you could talk to a therapist about it, but I haven't tried it myself so I don't know how it'd turn out.

>>83496 I'm so exuasted lainanons

>>83533 >>83531 why do polack niggers like you have to derail every thread? autists need to learn. just because you have a sick fetish obsession doesn’t mean the rest of the world must care. autism doesn’t really exist. It’s a made up bull soykaf label. aspersgers was made up by some nazi doktor. society is in fact autistic at the institutional level anyway so labeling random people as autistic is just hypocrisy. normal users are now all autistic or trying to be. the best way to deal with it is learning not to give a fuarrrk and making sure the label doesn’t define you. practically what issues do you face? then find work arounds and also don’t give a fuarrrk about this evil evil society.

>>83538 > autists need to learn >few lines later > autism doesn’t really exist > labeling random people as autistic is just hypocrisy The fuarrrk? > aspersgers was made up by some nazi doktor That's not how you spell 'doctor' and no it wasnt exactly. Aspergers was coined in 1981 inspired by something he wrote and didnt get in the DSM till 1994. Autism was originally coined it's own condition in around 1949 thought to be childhood schizophrenia before they figured out it didnt really entirely fit that. Before then autism was just a term to describe a kind of withdrawl in schizophrenics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3757918/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8931527/ > practically what issues do you face? then find work arounds This isn't bad but you should acknowledge there is limits on how far this will go depending on the issue. > also don’t give a fuarrrk about this evil evil society. Society can play a role but it isn't everything.

>>83539 I think hes just complaining about the inclusion of his autistic special disinterest (politics).

>>83496 caffeine and stims are what worked for me. Drank all forms of caffeine heavily for ~5 years and now Im hypersensitive to anything more than a 20oz coca-cola every other day. Now I just have that one day and 2-3 4mg nicotine pouches the other day. Could get your vitamin and mineral levels checked I remember feeling way more alert and mentally capable after starting to take either magnesium, iodine, or NALTs

>>83543 Thank you will look into

I read on Wikipedia a description of Siptomatics of Asperger's syndrome and a schizoid personality disorder and found many coincidences with his behavior and reactions. However, I am not worried about this. I believe that first of all, society is sick and schizophrenic and its criteria for evaluating my personality do not have absolute relevance and logic. For comfort, I have enough good music, anime and books. Still, the inner world is much more interesting than the real, on which all literature and other cultural lore are based on by the way.

Shrooms and MDMA helped me a lot. I have ADD as well so Intuniv helps with the constant hyper arousal

>>87418 >shizoid all i read about it sums up to >this person is immune to manipulation by peer pressure and does whatever it wants which is only a defect to those who seek to control

>>83496 Have a mild case of Asperger’s myself but realized the more I get older what it is, how it works, and how its impacted my life. In some ways it’s a problem, in others it’s a saving grace. Learning to understand the nature of it and how it works and what the difference is between a normal person and someone like me has helped to integrate the whole thing a lot. It doesn’t suck if you use it well and if your case is not that severe. But if you have a seriously profound case of Asperger’s it can definitely be a severe handicap and make life unpleasant.

>>83496 Asperger is an outdated term. It's outdated, because it's redundant. Asperger is just a mild form of autism, so nowadays you would say that you have a Level 1 Autism Spectrum Disorder. Just saying.

>>88221 Some autists still like to use the term, I suppose because it distances them from the 'autist' label and paints their experience with the disorder different from 'the other ones.' This still happens in academia. My friend tells me his psychologist diagnosed him with Aspergers, despite that distinction having been discredited for several years.

>>88221 >>88223 As a self identified sperg I would like to say that personally speaking I have a predilection for the term which Hans Asperger used for such a condition himself; Autistic Psychopathy. The reason being is because this term unlike the name of the man who coined it tells us a lot about the nature of the condition. >>83496 >1 I would like to share a bit more about my experience having what I formerly described as a mild case of Asperger's. In doing so I will shed light as an older poster (30) on OP’s question about how to make the best of it all. I refer to my case as mild, because the full explanation is that I was never diagnosed with it in my childhood, but when I was 18 I was put into a large mental institution for a brief period where a series of tests were given to me to determine if I had spergers or any of the other ever growing number of variants of Tism. The results of that test were extremely interesting, and although I did not realize it until a full decade later receiving them was one of the more pivotal moments in my entire life. When given the results of the test I was sat down in a room with several doctors who had participated in running the tests, and a landline speakerphone in the shape of a triangle with mini triangles in each corner of the bigger triangle was placed on a table in between all of us. The doctors called my parents on the phone and announced the result of the tests. They told me and my family that the tests all showed that I did not meet the DSM criteria (I think at that time was actually #4 because this was 12+ years ago) for Autism or Asperger's, but that in the opinion of the doctors I had Asperger's anyway. I could not help but bursting out laughing and accusing them of being completely full of soykaf, because at the time I had no clue what the definition of Asperger’s was, nor the definition of Autism. It was only a full decade later when I was 28 that I had experiences that led me to realize several of my best friends growing up (relationships which continued into my 20s and only ended within the past year or two) had varying degrees of either Autism, or Asperger's, several of which are relatively severe cases, and that I also did actually have a mild case of Asperger’s myself just as I was told. In order to give proper context, please understand that at this point in my life I simply had zero, and I mean flat zero clue what Asperger's or Autism was in any sense of the word. It was bluntly Chinese to me at that time in my life, and as far as I was concerned a completely arbitrary and likely made up concept, which more generally speaking was the same way I felt about many common forms of mental conditions or illnesses at that point in my life, that many of my friends or family claimed to have been diagnosed with. In my teenage years when girls I knew said they had some sort of Cluster B thing going on I simply did not know what that meant, nor did I give it a single shred of credence. I deduced that all these types of things are just ways in which people became “upset” due to the state of modernity or as the result of previous or ongoing trauma, and that things like Depression, Anxiety, Bi-Polar, Autism, Asperger’s, and Cluster B illnesses were just some soykaf-bag shrinks way of pointing a finger at people accusing them of being maladapted to a supposedly “perfectly healthy” society. This ignorance of mine about psychology/psychiatry more generally was one of the things that I came to understand much later proved me to be rigidly Aspergian, because I see now that I simply was just autistically unable to adapt to understanding things that went against the grain of my preconceived notions. This is a common trait -as I now know it today- of both Tism and Spergers. So getting back to the story, naturally I immediately asked the doctors “So if you have all concluded that I have a condition/illness that I passed a test proving I do not have, what is the basis of your claim that I have it anyway?” And the answer to this was yet again something that at the time I simply could not help but die laughing about in their face. I was told “Well, its because you like reading, and history, and science.” This confused me deeply at that time and under the conditions I was in I had no ability to believe anything other than that this sealed the deal and showed plainly to me that the doctors were either straight up lying, or were in some sense severely mentally ill or extremely low intelligence themselves, because for the life of me I had no ability to understand the manner in which those things could lead them to deduce I had Asperger’s. This all actually makes sense to me today, after researching the subject and talking to other people who have Autism or Asperger's about it.

>>88250 >2 At the time I did not know the real reasons, but I now understand why the doctors intentionally and rightfully withheld from me on the basis of what was at that time my present behavior, lack of maturity, generally low intelligence, and dog-soykaf attitude, the fully fleshed explanation of the situation. If every single piece of detailed information was given to me that I now know 12+ years later at that time, it would have been utterly impossible for me to accept and it would not have improved my life at all, but would have done a lot to make it much much worse. I simply was not in a position to work with the reality as it was or as it is, whether it was presented to me in every last bit of its details or not. Generally speaking its a matter of professional practicality in psychology/psychiatry to walk on eggshells or be relatively (if not totally) concealing when giving someone a diagnosis they have no ability to maturely accept, and as such they will have a zero percent chance of working on profitably, because they simply will not even believe there is something that requires working on at all and will be insulted and further upset by the doctors suggestions that an issue of such natures needs to be addressed in order to improve the condition of the patient. They will find the doctors suggestions appalling or depressing, if not both, and they will be radically made worse by this type of circumstance. For any doctor who really does care about the quality of life of a patient (which today I now understand many do and many do not, but I recognize now they are not all just sick bastards like I once imagined in my youth) its integral that they do not do anything, even if its in telling the patient the blunt truth, to make their condition worse. Often times there are forms of mental issues (Tism/Sperger’s is only one of several examples that come to mind) that will be radically catalyzed for the worse by identification and confrontation, and that can not be solved or even improved thereby. In these types of cases where the doctor(s) hold zero expectations of acceptance and thus zero expectation of improvement, diagnoses will not even be given to the patient at all, but merely kept in the doctors private records. A solid decade later I ended up doing a lot of extensive research on the subject(s) of Autism and Asperger’s and also other mental issues that I do not suffer from but close family or friends do (Cluster B, Bi-Polar, Narcissism, Agoraphobia, Depression, Anxiety, etc). This opened a whole new door for me in terms of understanding things and suddenly in my late 20s I was finding myself with a completely different understanding of my life, and the lives of those around me who have such issues, in a way I could have never even dreamed possible. It was like waking up from a dream and realizing everything as it actually is, instead of how I imagined it was. I could type up pages and pages about all of the specific tips and tricks, psychological traps, explanations, and all the rest of it that I learned from this very extensive and still ongoing research, but for now I will just give the raw core of the advice as I did before. 1: If you have genuinely severe Spergers you probably do not have much hope to fix it and the best you can do is educate yourself to know the entire nature of it to a T and not play into it in all the ways you tend to. Doing this naturally will be extremely difficult and take years if not be impossible completely because severe Spergs have almost no ability to break out of preconceived thought and behavior patterns regardless of how much they learn. 2: If you do not have it severely and are someone like me who has a “touch of the Tism” as they say, what you want to do is become hyper educated and hyper aware of how it all works in every possible detail through manual research. After you do this you need to do an extensive amount of research in all the areas into which Tism/Spergers has made you weak. You need to address all the inaccurate convictions built by seeing life through its filter, all the ridiculous fears and anxieties built up by the same, all the bullshit in every single sense of it. You need to make a critical and fully exhaustive review of every single way you can determine that being a Sperg built you up to be handicapped in your thought and behavior patterns, and you need to fully understand the difference between that and proper healthy ones. You need to literally watch yourself like a hawk 24/7 and do this as an ongoing project for the rest of your life, and you have to be honest with yourself when you catch yourself being tistic/spergian, and be willing to reduce such proclivities, so that you can remind yourself to reduce those proclivities when they inevitably arise. I have found that this method makes it possible for me and others I have known to reduce their spergers/tism to what I and they now experience as generally a non-issue, and at best it can and does function to my and others advantage in various ways. This is another subject that must be explored and integrated deeply, how to go from having the worst form of these things to having the best form of them, how to turn them from working against you to working for you.

>>88251 >3 This process is not easy at all, because one of the main things that's true about tism/spergers is that depending on how severely a person has it depends on how rigidly they are locked into preconceived notions and how rigidly they are locked into preprepared patterns of thought and behavior. If your looking to reduce Spergers you can really only do so by breaking the patterns of it in you, and by adapting and evolving in the areas in which its functioned as a social barrier for you by learning more about the nature of interpersonal relationships and for that matter the nature of a persons relationship with themselves, whilst culling the detrimental stuff and cultivating what is actually productive and prosperous. This is more complicated than it sounds because in many instances you have to learn the unspoken things about life that no one really wants to say, or teach, or address, at all. That is why in many instances you have to go through medical files or talk to people on the chans in order to get a wide range of accurate information on this. I have learned over 10x from looking at medical files, wikipedia, and talking to people on various chans about these subjects in a critical way than I have ever been able to get from trying to speak to people about it that I know. Unless you just happen to know someone who is that rare kinda person whos extremely redpilled to this stuff no one you know IRL can give you good information on how to reduce something like the detriments of Aspergers. I may feel inclined to give more information and specifics about how to address certain areas of the issues that tend to come up with all this in a later post, or a I may not. Either way I hope the best for you OP and everyone here.

Bump. Even as i was diagnosed 5 years ago it wasn't until now when I am actually accepting it and assimilating it, my hikki era probably is going to end soon if I'm get accepted in college and i don't want this to be more difficult than already is.

>>90064 Do the inner work, thats where the work takes place. One step at a time anon.

Any spergs here who sometimes feel the need to socialize? After going 0 contact for 3 months or so I begin to feel lonely and seek out social connection but after do meeting somebody I become sick and tired of them within a week and need to isolate again. It's a vicious cycle.

Feel what way? This is a great example and good start to help you in your journey, other people dont know what is going on in your brain unless you communicate it. Even if I was also autistic im not going to inherently have the same struggles or experience as you. something I find in autistic people is you tell them something like this and they get frustrated and go Im not a idiot you dont have to talk down to me but then proceed to still expect people to read their mind. Ive heard this is in part because to them it seems like neurotypical people expect you to read their mind but I could pretty easily break down how im getting the subtext from what someones saying logically, I am intuiting it but im aware of how im intuiting these things in the background. However when autistic people "do it back" they are neglecting that im picking up on what someones talking about because of things like word choice and tone and maybe most importantly earlier conversations we had and so they end up just saying stuff like "Any suggestions on how not to feel this way" when we have never talked about how they feel before and no words in that give me insight into how you feel so its sort of not the same thing at all. Its similar to the phenomena where an autistic person just starts talking to you about their special interest and is rebuffed and then wonders how come when someone else does it its okay. The reason is usually that other person has brought it up before here and there over time and guaged whether that person is even interested in it, the act alone of communicating doesnt inherently transmit your interest and feelings thats not what neurotypicals are doing when they seem to be "all in on some secret game".

I found the fact that there are almost always subtle cues in peoples' behaviors that are meant to signify ones intentions way too late in life, and finding out about this completely ruined my hope at getting any friends. I coped, saying that it's because I was anxious, because I'm not good-looking enough and most-importantly I thought it could be something that I could fix but in the end it's all just a boiling pot of dogshit.

for context, im 30 years old and was diagnosed as autistic when i was 5 or 6. i was rediagnosed throughout my teens and ive participated in medical studies on autism as well. i also studied linguistics in undergrad and currently work in cybersecurity. ive done social and therapeutic work in the past as well, among other things that have given me a bit of perspective on the topic. when i was in school i developed a discourse analytical methodology for neurodivergent speech, with a focus on autism (and to a lesser extent ADHD). as an autistic myself this interests me greatly: i had the goal of creating a pedagogical resource for autistic people to communicate with neurotypicals more easily. however, over the course of my research my opinions shifted. i now believe it isn't our job to integrate if that means getting better at masking, or hiding autistic symptoms and fitting in to seem normal. i think this has been important to me because ive spent most of my life on the must-mask side of things, being subject to applied behavior analysis when i was young and generally trying to be as cooperative as possible. actually, this went a long ways for me as i wound up studying linguistics what you should do instead is befriend other autistic people, or people who are dysfunctional / "mentally ill" in other ways too. i could go on philosophically or scientifically about why its better this way but that's pointless, there shouldn't be abstract moral reasons for doing something if that makes you uncomfortable too. if your goal is to feel better about yourself as well as be taken more seriously, directly asking other autistic people how to get neurotypicals to take you seriously is basically the way. however, something ive learned as i entered adulthood is that you don't necessarily need to go to allistic people in the first place: most of my close friends and partners have been on the spectrum, this isn't something i actively seek out anymore its just how it happens that the people i connect with the best are also autistic. i think this has been important to me because i used to be very disdainful of other autistic people especially those with more apparent symptoms, this largely was because i hated myself, and i saw other autistics as people who weren't going to make it. there's also this organization called the autistic self-advocacy network, which is actually a coalition of several different organizations, that has decent resources for things like: moving out of your parents house and living independently as an adult, becoming a respected and looked-up to member of your community, research on autism, legal resources for knowing your rights as an autistic person (its united states centric however), and a tracker of upcoming legal issues like new laws, activism, events or court cases. https://autisticadvocacy.org/ something else i wanted to say was that some of the lessons i had wished i learned growing up might not apply to you because im female, but i think one of the biggest things for me has been how to assert boundaries: your boundaries are basically where your own desires/preferences/capabilities etc end, and they are the extent to which you can give to other people. theres lots of people who will attempt to ruinously take from you more than you can give, in my case it was being raped and also having exploitative work or living arrangements. ideally, you should be saying maybe as little as possible, and you should not be agreeing to do things that you might only potentially be okay in or enter situations you can't get out of. in general, you need to be comfortable with saying "no" to things at any point, and leaving for any reason. if you can't do this then even thingd which you might enjoy will be permanently soured by this involves not telling yourself you're wrong, that you need to force yourself to do things or ignore your intuitions. there's a few tools that are helpful to these kinds of social situations in regards to say, identifying red flags and gaining respect, personally i found marshall rosenberg's non-violent communication as well as lundy bancroft's why does he do that, both books, helpful in that regard. >>83509 you need to separate asap, whether or not you're actually autistic this kind of person will sabotage your entire life (and her own) over her own insecurities. my parents are the same way. the only solution is to find alternative ways of subsistence like a job and a home independent of her. if you don't do this they will treat you like a disabled child for the rest of your life and routinely ruin anything you have going for you. >>88250 its respectable that you would put your entire life story in these terms for us and share so much about it. however it is a bit saddening to me at least that you frame things the way you do: the difference between type 1 and type 2 you've mentioned is often the case a difference of upbringing and abuse, however, you're basically internalizing the framework (applied behavior analysis) that has been proven to be *least* effective at the goals you yourself are stated to having. it's like, I'm very sorry you're having this immense inner turmoil, but a lot of it seems to be entirely self-constructed. I would know because I used to be the same way as you, but it was, among other things, a negativistic and defeatist attitude that i quickly grew out of. you don't need to frame things in terms of having to fight this inner war against some kind of debilitating cognitive freeze particularly when its a distinction you've basically invented for yourself as well. >autistic people are only able to think in rigid categories much of the time the reasons for this are not because the categories themselves are set in stone or technically exist in the first place and has more to do with ones ability to communicate (and the willingness of others to communicate reciprocally). autistics communicate with far more semantics than neurotypicals, this is in part because we are more capable of focusing on that many small details (while supposedly missing the big picture, but i would naturally contest this), and also in part because we don't use pragmatics as much in our communication. for context, the difference is that semantics refers to precise meanings of words as they might be in a dictionary and pragmatics refers to contextual meaning. my point being that if somebody prefers not to express something in the same english words you do doesn't mean they don't grasp it conceptually, and doesn't consider it incorrect for entirely valid reasons as well. what i found helpful was putting things in terms of stuff i already knew, metaphorically, or stories i liked and so forth. this is better than fighting and otherizing a significant part of myself as well as perceiving reality in an antithetical way to my existence. i will probably get body-too-long error if i elaborate further at this point but i highly recommend you check out the resources i posted earlier and maybe actually be friends with some of the 'type 1 autistic' people you mentioned earlier. i know people with what you might consider to be much more severe behavioral or communication issues who are highly intelligent that i regularly rely on.

>>91938 >what you should do instead is befriend other autistic people, or people who are dysfunctional / "mentally ill" in other ways too That's cool and all, but it won't help with career success or dealing with authority. Got any notes from that research to post, at least?

>>91942 >career success depends on ur field. tech in particular is filled with well-paid autistics who will be involved in the hiring process and not care if ur autistic at the interview. think slightly outside the box with regards to how you're qualified. have anecdotes. other professions too - linguistics for instance, i wouldn't call everyone else in it autistic in the classical or aspergers sense since we're all relatively high masking but any academic or technical field really is likely to be more accommodating. GIS is another example. as long as you're doing something technical, although some industries like rail is counter-intuitively prejudiced against autistic people. they call us foamers, think we'll get too attached to doing things a certain way if we care too much about the rail system and won't hire becaues of it. be very mindful of this, although its something your friend in the field, which you should certainly have, can warn you about. this should be an obvious one but avoid anything overtly ideological or at least extremist, "hot-button" topics. if you do or if it does come up, have a moderate-but-nuanced opinion on the subject that comes across as considerate and intelligent. they want to know you're passionate about something - one of my mistakes was actually implying that i didn't think the office was a place for politics, because it was an interview at a startup where everyone was progressive and did volunteer work. I didn't think "I do harm reduction work for homeless drug users" was a classy-enough type of thing for working at a company but there was honestly a way to spin it that i regret not doing so. >dealing with authority you got me there, though some authorities are also autistic in ways you can tell. typically behind the scenes stuff, "policy wonk" type people. i think maybe just tell them what they want to hear. usually thats pretty simple, they want to hear that they're in charge, useful (especially HR, there's more histrionics than average in this field) that you can communicate with them, that you're honest, and they don't want obvious disqualifiers. so, never sell yourself short. there is a degree of criticism that is expected but don't try to fundamentally challenge their identity or core values. be proactive, don't just be like "whatever you want boss". have memorable aspects that don't seem negative or judgment-inducing, just quirks that stand out slightly. practice the interview repeatedly. keep it shallow, don't be a pushover or a yes-man. it is subjective per person though, so try to treat everyone like a unique language to some extent. >Got any notes from that research to post, at least? Bourdieu, pretty much everything by him as it pertains to social capital. tl;dr it doesn't matter if your interactions are perfect as long as you secure people as business connections and are intentional about the relationships, and cover the basics like remember their name and show some investment in their success (as you're expecting reciprocity too). one of the jobs i was hired to was a classmate with a sense of repaying favors, and this was because i was the person who carried a couple group projects we were both on. it does help to not be rude, but that doesn't even necessarily matter the most if you elicit sympathy / empathy regardless, and/or can prove that you're highly qualified. but the most important part is reaching out, befriending everyone involved with or knowledgeable on the hiring process in the specific company you want to go for. getting a job has always been about this sort of nepotism, just don't call it nepotism, try think about the most palatable, optimistic way to call it and specifically how a hring manager might call it. this - bourdieu's conception of social capital, language and symbolic power, etc, actually was the bulk of my framework, unfortunately ive lost it ages ago but it didn't focus on career success in particular so just reading the source material should be sufficient. i should warn you though, he's french. his writing is very dense, it's like if you combined some of the more difficult parts of foucault and karl marx lol. quite useful though, lots of leftists hate him because he basically revised both of their ideas to talk about how individuals mobilize upwardly and transform their non-financial inheritance and sociality into careers (institutional capital) which should be rare / impossible / soulless in leftist frameworks. if you want something that directly pertains to conversational success, look into face work. there's also the discourse analysis called conversational analysis too, but that didn't interest me as much. my thesis was about how neurodivergent people are basically trained through our upbringing to anticipate and react to what other members of a discourse community are saying, and how we're placed in secondary roles within that community. so again, be proactive.

>>83496 its a scam all these words used tk mean retarded now its just to assimilate you into a hiveemind like most of this soykaf its about inbreeders and giving inbreeders money to fuarrrk kids for all i know you are brain inept and socially backeards and have no awareness of the situation or the humor or anything but maybe its all radios and you dont like your mom or those types of girls really its worse than horoscopes and they were no good either it amounts to some gypsy of english decent trying to marry you to somebody or fuarrrking you until your braain bleeds lots of countries dont observe "psychology" in the same way and the mentally handicapped are actually handicapped it seems wrong to accept being called a retard and assimilated by these types of people especially if youre smarter than them without mommy telling you how to spell your name with the radio which makes emos cut themselves basically you need more character unless youre stupid

I am basically incapable of making and sustaining friendships irl and online. There's a saying that imageboards are filled with autists, but I think genuine autists are very quiet, even over the internet. I rarely post, say anything, and when I try to make friends online they always flame out after like a week or two. With early intervention things might have turned out differently, but its so much harder to develop positive social habits when your an adult. Not only are you set in your ways, but people are much less forgiving. To improve, you need to be in an environment where people acknowledge that you will make mistakes but, if you are an adult and mess up once, you get ostracized.

>>91943 Thanks, and sorry about the one-liner. I appreciate your long posts and I don't want you to think I skimmed/ignored most of it. >discourse analysis I stumbled onto Deborah Tannen a few years before I was diagnosed. Her research seemed focused on the specifics of female-female friendship interactions but there was enough general information that I found useful in other contexts. Is she still current? I agree with your thesis and I hate it when I find myself preemptively deploying active countermeasures against other autists. >in my case it was being raped Hope you're doing ok.

Just try to find peace as you get older you gwt used to spendingmost of your time alone

>>83496 Definitely don't write a love letter to your crush

>>88252 I think the thing that is hard for me, especially in this hyper conformist era, is literally how it seems like people are more and more NPC as time goes on and any shred of humanity seemed to leave them. Having said that I get human nature is to act like a dog, but I do get as humans we can transcend be and build beautiful things, but it seems like people get uglier and uglier as I get older. The performative nature of people make it seem like life is one big Potemkin village, and that disturbs me. There is still the unique and beautiful in the world, but lately so many things seem fake it seems like a consensual hallucination.

>>93457 https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/seyer/files/plato_republic_514b-518d_allegory-of-the-cave.pdf

>>83496 >any suggestions Find out more about it and associated issues like Pathological Demand Avoidance, ADHD, etc. Find out what hacks you can use to cope with the negatives. Try them out to see what works for you. Play to your strengths and don't see it as a limiting label. Your 'car' can still drive, but you just have to adapt your 'driving style'. Don't worry what others think. People are in their own world and rarely think about you. Life is short, don't waste it pretending to be something you're not for people who won't exist a century from now. t. dead whale kicker

>>93508 >>83496 This is some solid advice. I was a complete wreck of a person until getting a late diagnosis at 24. Realising I was autistic gave me the tools to work with it, before that life was spent trying to imitate a normalcy I didn't filly understand and wondering why I felt so horrible all the time. Don't dismiss any little hacks to your behaviour as stupid, if they work they work. I would recommend reading this book and doing the exercises in it. Unmasking is much better for you in the long run

I officially got undiagnosed with Asperger's (autism written on the paper, but they told me I had Asperger's) and instead got diagnosed with Social Pragmatic Communication Disorder (SPCD) since I never stimmed as a kid. I at least had some helpful resources for ASD "back when I had it" but every result to SPCD is just soykafty articles written by no names that do nothing but regurgitate other articles that compare autism to SPCD. It also pisses me off that all I got told was "it can still be Asperger's if you look at it in a different way" which pisses me the hell off, what is it even supposed to mean? If it can still be Asperger's then why'd I just get undiagnosed with it? I know that words on a paper mean nothing but I was looking forward to clearance, not even more confusion. I did recently changed doctors and she does not yet have the results to my papers so that might be it but this was just overall stressful.

>Start uni >Recognize girl I saw exactly once 2 years ago and had a crush on >Engage in brief convo; talk about common contacts etc. >Casually drop "yeah I had a crush on you" >"..." >She actively avoids me now and I feel soykaf about making her feel that way! I'm getting tired of this; it seems like I can never trust my own intuition about what feels right to do as it's always perceived differently than what I meant. Would even say I know many implicit codes of communication and society by now, It's just so exhausting at this point, walking on eggshells just to make people "not feel uncomfortable". I get that, the social contract and civilization yadayada, but what's the point of trying to make other people feel right or whatever when you feel like soykaf nearly all the time? Let me say it: I have never been diagnosed with any autism or related. My family and tutors in particular did find some things off about me. After mulling over it for a while, I resolved to not get a diagnosis because what's the point? I know how I function and don't need a get a jail out of free card when I fuarrrk up. Can someone tell me how to find love? I have purpose and friends, but am kinda sick of not being able to experience intimacy due to a permanent, mutual misunderstanding between me and whatever girl I'm dating or interested in

>>92465 thank you. i felt a little embarrassed with replying in longform to your post, now i don't feel embarassed anymore. much appreciated. >Deborah Tannen, current? not necessarily current but I would consider her fundamental. there have been some refutations / reassessments of her work over the years, i think there was a thread a while ago where gender differences in communication came up that someone talked about her. nowadays i think she's one pole of a spectrum. >Hope you're doing ok. thank you. i meditate regularly, i live a simple life with stimulating hobbies, eat healthy, and keep myself out of drama. it feels like ive been surprisingly resilient. though some things do still upset me.

>>83503 Have you considered thyroid issues? What is it to be asperger?

>>83496 I love retro tech. Simpler, cuter, nice designs and come with the greatest invention of all: physical buttons.

>>93564 >>93564 say youve been stimming by clicking auto-pen all the time but you classmates never cared t. had been stimming by clicking pen to the point they would shout at me

autism and adhd will be common here but anyone schizotypal? I get called autistic but my internals work in the opposite way and reading about STPD feels very relatable. I guess another neurodivergence that could be normalized.

>What is your experience? Any older lainanons have any suggestions as to how I can I don't know not feel this way? I have been diagnosed with schizotypal personality disorder, but I've been told that my way of building internal mechanisms and incorporating an artificial ego to deal with the external world while my actual self can only thrive or manifest itself while I'm in complete isolation is something autists do. Every autistic person I've met is different, in my eyes. Difficult to find an observable pattern. If I may be so bold, I'd say, don't worry about the external world and embrace your obsessions, live your life inside your mind. That's what I do. The person that dwells in the world is a fabrication, and I hate it, both the person and the world. When I die, I hope it rots with this world and poisons it forever and may my spirit rise way beyond this soykafhole.

One thing that doesn't gets talked about enough in sperg circles is the dexterity, all throughout school my teachers got mad at my writing and my hand was constantly slapped for holding the pen "the wrong way". I can only tie my shoes correctly for about 30% of the times, sorting money when I'm at the store is embarrassing (I always manage to drop a bill) and I haven't wore anything with buttons since 6th grade because it takes me like 10 minutes to get all the buttons right, and I sometimes put the button in the wrong spots too. I've accepted my faith with socializing but I constantly need to write soykaf down and if somebody asks to look at my notes I freeze on spot.