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We need to recap vaccine shedding. Some of the jabbed have decayed into a dementia-like state, writing gibberish jumbled up letters, etc. The presence of bots etc may mask this online, perhaps that's part of their purpose. Key questions: -Mechanism and duration of shedding -Manner of shedding -Means of transmission and uptake (skin contact, mucous membranes, saliva, sexual, electromagnetic or air ie just "proximity", etc) -How long does shedding last, or is it indefinite. -Degree of uptake, depth. ie is the shed material just a toxin that has to be cleared, or is a transcribable unit with gene insertion capabilities also conveyed. -Differences between vaccines -Any other differences between effects on jabbed and unjabbed.

I've been loosing my hair. Is that because of the vaccine?

>>83388 Midwestern Doctor has the most cogent recaps on what little studies have been done on spike protein shedding issues. Smart guy. Seek those out. Anecdotally, I have had zero apparent issues when around 2x dosed people, but I have had athsmatic and cardiopulmonary symptoms (with noted BP monitor numbers–yes, I carry one around with me for funsies) after airborne exposure to 5x+ dosed people. As far as I can tell, I'm fine and cleared the spike proteins within a day afterwards, but it isn't pleasant to have increased heart rate, BP, difficulty breathing, and headaches. Nobody really knows how long it lasts. Seems to be random, but with higher transmission rates the more, and more recently people have had a dose. Nobody knows soykaf, which I think was the point.

Do you even know how the immune system works? It takes viruses and breaks them into pieces then uses those pieces to train the immune system. So you should get cancer and AIDS to protect yourself.

>>83405 >cancer Not a virus >AIDS Not a virus I understand your rhetoric, but your logos is wrong. In many cases, innoculation is better than vaccines. You want to argue for vaccines, but you're not even starting a good argument. Go ahead and make one and I'm sure one of the gentlemen that disagree with you will gladly fight you on it. I'm not interested in "converting" anyone, I'm just letting you know that you should probably know what you're talking about, too. The luxury of not having to know soykaf when you're on the side of what most people seem to agree with isn't really something that works in the modern world anymore.

>>83417 >cancer >Not a virus Probably at least partially false. See eg Royal Rife and Virginia Livingston.

>>83417 The comparison isnt comparing viruses with cancer and AIDS. It is comparing the nature immune system's response to a virus. In the case of covid-19 causing sars-cov2 virus which we all know is what got OP lured in, the virus gets broken down in the body and the spike protein by itself is used to train the immune system. So the three different kinds of vaccines for it the mRNA, the adeno viral vector, and the subunit vaccine all worked on this principle. As for how viruses cause harm to people it is ironically not actually the viruses themselves. What happens is some viruses overwhelm the body's immune system and this is what causes more significant illness. So the point of vaccines is to train the immune system to go after a virus before it replicates enough it will overwhelm the immune system. That is how all vaccines of all kinds currently work via test runs for the immune system. As for side effects in many cases those are from people allergic to the ingredients or if there was contamination during processing just like you sometimes have contaminated food that gets recalled. The tongue in cheek mention of AIDS and cancer was reference to how those can compromise the immune system.

>>83440 What you just said is the equivalent of "well u put a bit of the virus, n a bit of adjooooovant, and it make ur body prepared for duh reel vyeruzzz :DDD". I hate this midwit soykaf so much. Search molecular mimicry, immune complexes, and all the metals found in human but not veterinary vaccines. As well as "non-specific effects" which is the newspeak term they put out there for dumb as a box of rocks midwit NPC cattle so that they're implicitly signaled that they aren't allowed to put two and two together yet, cuz we gave it another word! It's not safe yet.... can't do wrongthink.. gotta stay with the herd. Stupid animal. No one asked for your bot tier response. Answer the thread OP or beat it. Dumbass NPC.

>>83441 Molecular mimicry is something that can apply more to food you eat than vaccines for viruses. That would be more relevant for vaccines for multi cell microorganisms if anything. Problems arise dependent on dose, you eat metals on a regular basis through your food. If you're talking aluminum it is used in deodorant and it exists in breast milk, it gets removed from the body fairly quickly. If you mean thimerosal the amount is quite small and it isn't used in all vaccines like you seem to imply. You also can chelate metals out of your body so it isnt like you are stuck with metal in your body for life. Chances are you have more microplastic circulating in you right now.

>>83446 >Molecular mimicry is something that can apply more to Nope, that's irrelevant. It's not an either or, more or less. Don't play these dumb little (as in infantile) lawerly rhetorical games with me. Didn't read the rest. Reformulate and post again.

Self bump. Question remains. Is there a self propagating aspect to jabs expressed on mucous membranes.

>>83554 It would have taken you seconds to see only live attenuated vaccines (attenuated means they are weak ass viruses) do vaccine shedding. So rotavirus, mmr, chickenpox and flu only for the nasal spray version not the injected.

>>83556 There is no reason to think a mystery injection couldn't prompt mucosal tissues to emit something. You're not ahead of me.

>>83557 Emit what? How is that even an issue to even act worried about? You don't even seem to be making any arguments still.

>>83558 "Making arguments"? What the fnck are you even talking about. Get out of here, buddy.

>>83559 The purpose of asking a question is concern. But where is the explanation on what the concern even is? There is none given. Unless it is purely for curiosity in which case that should also be explained. This is why there is rules against low quality posts, no one can really answer if nothing is explained. So get explaining yourself.

>>83560 There's nothing to explain. The explanation is in the question itself. Kindly stop filling my thread with weird and nonsensical feedback, ie derailing. Do it again and you won't get another response.

>>83561 Shedding is only known to occur in live attenuated vaccines. If it occurs in other kinds it would have to be far less common otherwise it would be known and documented as much. As mentioned in an earlier post your immune system breaks down viruses anyway so all kinds of vaccines if any shed would be incapable of shedding anything more dangerous than the viruses they are for. Plus viruses are not actually in themselves dangerous it is the immune system over reacting that is dangerous which you really only would get when infection level is high enough. Since only live attenuated vaccines can replicate any exposure level from any hypothetical shedding of any other kind of vaccine would be be insignificant unless you're outright getting a full blood transfusion from multiple people.

>>83562 It is known in other cases. The traditional issue is: Some vaccines just stop symptoms which means you are save from dying with the vaccine but can still contract and spread the disease. And of course that is even more likely to happen when you don't get bedridden and continue to interact with people looking healthy...

>>83564 You can pass a virus without showing symptoms but they don't pass as easily due to the lack of symptoms in some cases for example if it is an air born virus for it to pass as easily they also would have to have allergies and sneezing from the allergies instead of a virus. Also viral load influences how likely something can pass. The less there is in the body the less likely it will be contained in that tiny droplet. Vaccines the amount will be lower in the body than someone being infected by a virus they are not immune to even with live attenuated vaccines since part of what makes it considered attenuated is due to it being poor at replication. It is a bit different for the immunocompromised though where generally they arent recommended live attenuated vaccines because it is uncertain if their immune system can fight it off in time before it potentially causes problems.

>>83564 Something else to add. Take for example the monkey pox virus to get that from just breathing air near someone I read it takes 3 hours of close contact being within 6 feet of someone that long which is why the media focused on skin on skin transmission more, basically the viral load isnt high enough till that long for any symptoms to occur. Reason for this is because there is so little contained in the particles carried in the moisture of someone's breath. So if someone had a vaccination against mpox which is a live attenuated vaccine based on the orthopox virus it would be even lower chance of passing from shedding versus the actual in the environment monkey pox virus due to the lower viral load caused by the reduced viral replication, and even if it does pass you would not need to be concerned unless you were immunocompromised. Second hand contact you wont even be exposed to the levels anywhere close to what people vaccinated with something get that would be like putting a drop of food dye into a bucket of water and expecting taking a drop of water out and expect it to be as dark as the dye was. This is even less an issue in cases of any vaccine that isn't live attenuated because if you do get exposed to anything it will not even be able to replicate or if in the freak chance it does it will be very little.

>which is why the media focused on skin on skin transmission more genuine rofl, imagine believing media makes rational reports, especially with the track record of last round.

>>83570 Not relevant and you're just making up things that were never said.

>>83572 >getting quoted is making things up lmao

>>83570 That's why I stopped responding to him and weird posters in general. There's this bot-like wiki type output, delivered in an official "I'm knowledgeable and ahead of you" vibe. Very tiresome. I don't need to be sinking time and energy into trying to get something out of someone who still trusts the media.

>>83573 No, I mean you are inferring something that is not meanf in what was said. I was not really suggesting the media is what decided that, they care about mostly ad revenue since it isnt sensational enough to focus on very slim chance transmission methods. >>83575 Shut the fuarrrk up. You're that same retard spamming every thread claiming everyone else is a bot.

>>83576 >Shut the fuarrrk up. You're that same retard spamming every thread claiming everyone else is a bot. It might as well be a bot. A biobot.

My thread on /fit/ https://boards.4chan.org/fit/thread/74929209 A few relevant papers were posted. One postulated that filaments could be continually generated and shed through saliva or sweat

>>83584 was 404'd https://boards.4chan.org/fit/thread/74933097

https://www.jelsciences.com/articles/jbres1663.pdf Some suspicious numerology, but interesting.

>>83405 he clearly already has both

>>83577 The only bot like person here is you. Never before has Lainchan seen someone so autistic and delusional at the same time as you. Seek medical help and find a care facility that can tend to your special needs.

>>83584 >4chan Not going there. Particularly not after that time there was crypto mining crap hidden in it some years ago. > One postulated that filaments could be continually generated and shed through saliva or sweat Lol what? Perhaps in a rare case of microplastics as a way of leaving the body but that doesn't have anything to do with the mRNA vaccines like that image says, as it more would have to do with the mass overuse of forever chemicals polluting the environment and food supply. You eat a credit card worth of plastic a week supposedly. You'd have better reason for concern over teflon surfaces and if you leave a bottle of water in the sun too long and wearing Gortex jackets Or whatever it's called. What even is this supposed self assembling polymer? Can you even name it?

.>>83601 > as it more would have to do with Look Lain, we'e been over this in the past. This isn't midwit amateur hour, we don't do "either or" here. It's not a one or the other matter. I'm really sick of this mindless substitution pattern and impulse. "nuh uh, I don't like what you said, so imma focus on what I feel right focusing on only". Like what the fnck is wrong with you? Get out of here with that garbage. >You'd have better reason for concern over teflon surfaces and if you leave a bottle of water in the sun too long You're just listing to trivialize and give the impression "oh there are a lot of things, what can you do." Shut up. I don't use teflon. I don't drink out of plastic water bottles. I don't drink out of metal water bottles with a plastic anti-rust liner. Can you stop with this strawman horseshit and just address the topic directly? For fnck's sake. There is no "gotcha" here. There's not gonna be a "teehee, ur wurreed about jab but prolly doing this and this and this got em!" The dumbest sh!t. What is wrong with people. >What even is this supposed self assembling polymer? Can you even name it? Dumbass, you have nanometals embedded in synthetic polymers (microplastics) coming down in the air column all the time. There's a constant exogenous source for any machinery added into, or onto the surface of (search shewanella), a body. And besides this, search "morgellons". The theories back in the day were keratin (protein), but there's a lot it could be made out of. Especially with synthetic biology or xenobiology added in.

>>83602 >I don't use teflon. >I don't drink out of plastic water bottles. > I don't drink out of metal water bottles with a plastic anti-rust liner. Cope cope cope. Not good enough. It's in near everything. You cant even easily avoid it unfortunately unless you want to inspect your own soil and start growing all your food but you wont even touch grass. https://oceanconservancy.org/news/its-not-just-seafood-new-study-finds-microplastics-in-nearly-90-of-proteins-sampled-including-plant-based-meat-alternatives/ >morgellons I already heard of it years back far before mRNA vaccines existed yet that image tried to link them. Was on some mystery tv show. The condition is officially thought to be psychosomatic illness of people self harming by scratching themselves and inserting fibers for attention or doing it in their sleep. Can you even name a single case that isnt an English speaker that could have read about it online? If it's culturally isolated that puts it up there with "koro" look it up. If it is real I already explained a possible mechanism a type of material produced by bacteria or some other tiny lifeform. We actually do have a type plastic made from something bacteria produces called PHA and it is biodegradable so it in theory is possible that way. It doesn't really make sense these fibers are in rainbows of colors unless it is just coming from outside sources though. Otherwise it would have to be some sort of ejection from the body that perhaps some people do better than others. Regardless there is very few cases so it's hardly a top level concern unless you personally experience it. Get your priorities straight.

>>83603 >The condition is officially thought to be psychosomatic illness of people self harming by scratching themselves and inserting fibers for attention or doing it in their sleep. Why did you throw this wiki-like summary in the middle of your post? You can't stop doing it, it's so embedded in your persona. This "I'm already there" and "I was there first", ie "I'm ahead of you" vibe. You truly believe you're a superset of me, when more likely it's the other way around. Just really surreal jester-like absurdism. Totally weird but you do it on reflex. >Get your priorities straight. Right back at you. You're trying to change the subject so it would be best to just starve you of input. Nothing to play off. This weird adversarial game you're playing is also socially conditioned by the way. Totally braindead counterproductive but you don't how to do anything else.

>>83604 You have severe mental problems. Seek help

>>83605 I wanted to just repeat what you said but it trips the spam filter.

>"yeah dude I'm telling you, vaccinated people will die for sure this year dude" >"yeah dude I know I told the same thing in 2021, 2022 and 2023 but look, they *check notes* write in gibberish jumbled up letters and *check notes again* etc ! It's OVER for them dude !" >"dude quickly reply to my nonsense, everyone not thinking like me is a BOT and they will CENSOR ME for sure dude" >"dude I know I don't have a medical degree but look at my 4chan posts ! I'm basically a genius dude !" For anyone not on strong pain medication or strong retardation like OP, yes, the vaccine has some side effects, a handfull of people died or got damaged by it, like any medication or vaccine, nothing is 100% safe. But a lot more got side effects from covid, including irreversible brain damage (long covid) or, you know, death. Anyway, are the anti-vaccine schizo done already ? What will it take for all of you to stop spamming every inch of the internets with your autistic messages ? Do we have to create a paper hat with "Certified genius" for you all to feel special and stop ?

>>83756 C|ampbot-9001 has entered the thread. CLAMPED VACCINATED CIRCUMCLAMPINATED

>>83758 Circumclampifluoraccimirradiciminated.

>>83756 Yeah, I personally knew of some people who died or were hospitalized or had long term fatigue from covid-19 none were vaccinated to my knowledge and i have yet to know anyone who came down with anything new after getting a vaccination for covid no matter which variety or maker they got. So it seems obvious to any average person who knows enough people which is worse. Sometimes i think people just make up conspiracies about vaccines purely because they are afraid of needles. The same people who were antivaxxers were pushing pharma drugs like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and regularly eat food that comes from pharma companies so obviously they dont distrust pharma companies at all.

>>83388 The only time that I got a hint of sickness during his whole COVID-19 was when I: - spent a few hours a day (1,5 / 2 hours) a few days a week (4 days) in the close vicinity (<0,5 meters) of the elderly. This was inside a room of building, with no proper ventilation. - was homeless and sleeping outside in the cold and rain. - didn't have a healthy diet and mostly ate carbohydrates and processed food. - didn't have proper hygeine with a lack of showers, brushing teeth or even cleaning body parts. The hint of sickess that I had, was experienced when I was coughing up some mucus the day after one of those dinners. When I coughed up the mucus, I experienced a stinging and burning pain on the place where the mucus was cleared. This was similar to a symptom of COVID-19. I've only had this hint of sickness once and after I cleared my lungs, it was gone immediately, never to return. In the previous months, I lived in an epicenter of sickness and managed to remain healthy. During this time, I rarely spent more as 10 seconds closely interacting with someone in this epicenter, and when I did, this usually was outside. When I sat inside with someone, I never spent more as 30 minutes with them. I've shared washing machines with these people, and no shedding was experienced. I meditate daily and do the six healing sounds, which give me much health. Concluding: - it doesn't seem to spread through water in the washing machine. - being in close proximity with someone who is vaccinated, is a factor with higher proximity leading to higher infection. - Ventilation is an important factor to consider in these rooms. - Shedding is rarely experienced on the outside. - A proper healthy immune system wards off the virus.

>>83762 >- Shedding is rarely experienced on the outside. Rereading what I typed and this isn't concluded from my story. What I meant to type was that being outside seems to make you less of a target for shedding, due to wind, sunshine and that you don't spent a lot of time near shedders (since spending a lot of time near shedders appears to be a factor). However, as I said later, the proper healthy immune system seems to be the best explanation for not getting sick from 'shedders'.

>>83757 Good example of brain damage from a covid infection, anon

>Some of the jabbed have decayed into a dementia-like state, writing gibberish jumbled up letters, etc. Like you? Im sure a lot of things look like gibberish when you cant tell the difference between bots and real people and say things like "im not reading your post cause I already know its nonsense" or yelling BOT!!! BOT!!! at every person who hits a little too close to home. Most people are not even riding for the vaccine nearly as hard as you think, but when they see people like you what is there even to say when any kind of sustained argument will deevolve into a tantrum. The fluoride/vaccine/ssri/whatevers hip stare you get when talking is because you seem to have lost it. This me vs the brainwashed masses soykaf is self fulfilling. If everyone but people who agree with you are speaking gibberish and brainwashed then you have indeed made an enemy of most of the world, this isnt a grand observation its the obvious conclusion. You can rationalize it however you want but in general people like you consistently fall into this sort of thing every time, it will always be you the lone sane person versus the insane world. This is the baseline assumption. People interact with you like im interacting with you instead of interacting with your epic anti vax arguments because we already have interacted with your anti vax arguments for years now and are tired of it, it doesnt seem to to anywhere. It makes it very clear that there is something way more fundamental causing us to be at odds, which in my opinion is exactly how you want it.

>>83762 I got corona virus two times, once after my second cousin sneezed about fifteen feet away from me while outside and a second time after spending three days in the ditch in front of the public library (I was hungover). I was pretty sick for both of those especially the second one but I only have mastered one of the healing sounds so idk. Not vaxxed though so my mind is clear as ever

>>83767 You think in caricatures. You are a bot / NPC. You will never know my mind, I am beyond your comprehension. You're not able to apply nuance, gradation, or the socratic method internally, you react to cardboard cutouts of your own creation. You disgust me and should just go away. You are deranged and so far off the plot that no discussion is possible. You have no idea what you're talking about or how it actually works. You've never lived it, you're just making things up. You are a self deceiving biobot fraud and your presence here is disgusting. >>83769 I had a certain level of intimacy with someone, now my body smell matches their's. I don't understand it, I'mm not familiar with this phenomena and have nothing to compare it to, and I don't like it. At all.

>>83769 If you'd've mastered the 2nd and 3rd healing sound, you wouldn't have gotten sick.

Indeed. I have observed this quite often. Jabbed are extremely obvious by their shambling gait and stilted, slurred speech. There aren't many around, which just goes to show how many have died and are being covered up (many statistical irregularities in the birth and death rates). Very few real humans left. >shedding Mostly just causes skin/lung irritation. It doesn't seem to spread. Given his dangerous and unpredictable the still-living vaxxoids are, it's the least of my concern now.

>>83767 >vaccines Yeah there is no thought or nuance just nonsensical ramblings from this living meme. I didnt even get the mRNA vaccine because I deduced my own concerns over the transport method of lipids, which turned out fine it seems and I couldnt find info on if PEG had been used in vaccines before instead usually the similar polysorbate is used, this likely had to do with temp storage differences. Reason for concern over PEG is not much if you arent allergic, there is a chance of contamination with ethylene glycol but even in the larger quantities of PEG people take as a laxative it only caused seizures in children according to an attempted lawsuit which is much more quantity than youd get in a vaccine. The viral vector vaccine type was something that had been done before with the ebola vaccine and had been used without problem in animals including chimpanzees since the 80s so i found that not a concern. Beyond that it's all FUD that was used to push the stocks for hydroxychloroquine which seemed to tie into something to do with Modi over in India, look into how the Indian guy who put out the withdrawn paper on hydroxychloroquine had ties to him. >fluoride There is issues with it but it is exaggerated by conspiracy theorist types. Water supplies definitely should not be fluoridated. It also doesnt even help teeth as much as claimed because it doesnt bond well and getting it from drinking water is the improper method too. >SSRIs When it comes to depression these either do nothing or cause emotional blunting. They are over prescribed.

>>83774 >ssri's literally cause brain damage there was a quote from a med had akin to "a bit of brain damage is a tolerable cost for the benefits" Couldn't hide it so they claimed its worth it. Also let this soykaf die, you just goin in circles with pharma simps, everyone interested knows it was a scam by now.

>>83770 >You are a bot / NPC. >You're not able to apply nuance, gradation, or the socratic method internally, you react to cardboard cutouts of your own creation. Great example of applying nuance, anon

>>83777 Predicted your reply as I was writing it. No, it doesn't go both ways. You can't understand why due to the quoted portion.

>>83774 These were just examples and were not things I was explicitly saying didnt have problems. I agree with a numver of things you said. Having any variety of specific problems with any of those things is fine and worthy of discussion. For example your post is fine you seem sensible. If I had the time to I would have a discussion with you about any of these things. Who im assuming is OP though, in spite of his claims he isnt a charicature and he can predict all of our posts, did exactly what I predicted he would do and threw a tantrum telling me to go away. Had I sat there having a "discussion" with him about vaccines thats exactly what he would have done but just hours into us talking wasting everyones time. Thats why online, unless I know the person, there is no point engaging with the "finer points" of someone who starts off a thread talking about if anyone else has noticed everyone taking the vaccine has become zombie bots because there is no finer points, its all starting from a preassumed position like the one I described (and they can rage against being put in a box all they want but they are creating the box around them). So all thats worth engaging with is whatever is behind all of this rationalisation about why everyome but them is sheep for x reason of the day. If I asked OP what he would need to be convinced vaccines are not causing people (broadly) to be in a dementia like zombie state he would not be able to tell me anything that I could plausibly give him to convince him. Only things I cant do anything about like "When I stop seeing everyone around me walking funny and talking gibberish" (his perception is irrepably warped and he will cope for the rest of his life).

>>83794 You've created another caricature. Your gradual drift into all or nothing prose says quite a bit.

>>83794 Im not even sure where it stems from. Either a desire these types have to see themselves as the special chosen ones, stupidity, or psychosis or all of the above,

>>83797 >Im not even sure where it stems from. Yes, as stated repeatedly. You don't know. My mind is beyond your comprehension.

>>83798 Like the mind of a gnat is beyond comprehension.

>>83808 That's a clever comeback. No, I mean in the other direction. As in I'm a net superset of you. Hence I know where things stem from, and you do not. The basis and genesis is within my view. It is not within your view.

>>83798 >Yes, as stated repeatedly. You don't know. My mind is beyond your comprehension. Yeah, >>83797, I'm pretty sure it's more than stupidity, schizophrenia maybe? I don't know, I'm not a doctor. That's what's sad about this whole trend of using everything for political gains, like the vaccine/pandemic, it preys on the most vulnerable people.

>>83810 >it preys on the most vulnerable people. Blatantly manipulative posturing. Get a real job.

>>83388 can anyone tell me the name of this painting? I recognize it but I can't remember from where

>>83811 People stop believing everything political motivated people post online. The whole vaccine thing was used to turn you against a political party/side, that's it. I'm not even telling you to start liking said political party/side, it's your choice, you are free. But please look back at where and who told you the vaccine was dangerous, and ask yourself why so many uneducated (medical wise) people were talking about it. As I said before in one of my posts here, it's as dangerous as most medication; yes some, a very few, have bad reaction to it. Some, even fewer, even die because of it. Some people die from Aspirin too. But a soykaf ton of peer reviewed studies pointed out who effective it was and how it helped a lot not having people in critical state. Yes it people made a soykaf ton of money from it, if you ask me, the patents should have been free, but hey, you live in a highly capitalistic society. Now please realize most people don't think/talk/search about the vaccine everyday of their life like you do, because it's over, because we don't care, because the vast majority of vaccinated people don't and will never have any side effect. I mean it's a good thing to ask questions, to not BELIEVE everything you hear right away, but at some point you need to realize you entered the dumb conspiracy zone. It's over. Don't waste your life "researching" this vaccine and schizoposting about it, realize you were wrong and it's a good thing you were wrong, don't let your ego control you.

>>83813 >But please look back at where and who told you the vaccine was dangerous Blatantly manipulative posturing. Didn't read the rest. Not interesting. Not engaging. Get a real job.

>>83814 Ok you are either -Trolling -Too stupid to read and understand more than a tweet long text -Trying to cope because you know you saw it first on some politically motivated twitter account/website. Have a nice life, anon Enjoy wasting your time on earth talking about le big bad vaccine owo

>>83815 Blatantly manipulative posturing. Get a real job.

>>83812 Maxfield Parrish - Daybreak (1922)

>>83817 thanks, it was on my copy of the dawn of day