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Physical body as a programmed limiter: Reality's golem

Nobody important · 2024-07-26 19:47
I suppose what gets me is the presence of a "mind over matter" component. A recent example being eyesight. I don't recall how it happened or over what course, but at a certain point in high school my eyesight was bad enough that I learned to recognize people by how they moved, their clothing, their "vibe", and general traits. And yet I began to notice occasionally I would wake up and for a few seconds my eyesight would be perfect, before fading away. So it was clearly possible. I learned to focus and so on, was aware of the "Bates Method" but didn't really use it, found something that worked and fixated on it. Got it to the point where, without squinting, I could consciously focus and have perfect eyesight quite reliably. At the longest point I maintained this almost constantly for several hours at a time, while moving and doing other things. And yet some days it just won't work for long, or I'm in the wrong frame of mind, or it's been too long since I've really focused on it... Like, are you kidding me? Let me get this straight. Whether it be a function of the intraocular muscles, the muscles outside the eye, posture and tension in the neck, the brainstem... whatever it is, "the system" or the "psychophysical apparatus" is demonstrably mechanically capable of working, at will, and to an extent automatically is persisted in, and yet I stop focusing on it and it stops working on its own. And this is supposed to be believeable, I am supposed to work with this, tolerate this, and go forward with suspension of disbelief intact. It gets to a certain point and I just have to say no. Something is wrong here, it's not believeable. It's nonsense, like a sort of prompt. The universe gives me this and I'm supposed to confabulate a narrative, about this or that thing I did or didn't do, or maybe metals are being liberated and shifting around redepositing in the body, or maybe atrophy from disuse and the muscles get tired, or whatever it is. I'm supposed to make something up and then believe in it, so I can submit to the reality where what is supposed to be, what is clearly possible, and how it's supposed to work, automatically, on its own, all the time, doesn't. And won't. And cannot. And perhaps even should not! Because of this reason, and that reason! Yes it happens that way because it should, and I consent to it, submit to it, believe in it! It really is like the body is a trap. It's a sort of prison. An energetic sink one's awareness is trapped within so the world can drain and devour you through it. It's bizarre. I've often found, within reason, the more you degrade and diminish the physical body, the better the mind functions. Like it's "heavy" to go through the brain, and you are better off getting it out of the way so it doesn't interfere. One trick I found a long time ago was sleep deprivation. Don't eat or sleep and at 22 - 26 hours consume caffeine through some form, maybe kava or something as well doesn't seem to affect the core process. This accelerates learning. Makes it work better. Everything becomes easy, anything you read is rapidly stored verbatim, with no resistance. Zero. Straight in, stored, move on. So basically, you spiked stress hormones by not eating or sleeping, prevented the brain from clearing out metabolic waste, then took in a substance that cuts blood flow to the brain by 40 to 50% on top of it, redirecting it away from the prefrontal cortex and to the limbic system. And this makes it work better. I practically beat the thing into submission with no regard... and it works better. All of its limiters are removed. And the downstream consequences of this process are surprisingly minor. There is some sort of system within the brain, or perhaps post-hypnotic suggestion, which puts limiters on it. And then you experience these limiters and come to believe in it, as though it's natural. When it isn't. It's just BS to make you slog a bit more and therefore run on the wheel more while progressing significantly less. Obstacles are artificial, made up, illusions. Things are made difficult to slow you down and distract you. And somehow this is done by forcing the mind to work through the physical body, which is designed to cripple you. Studying what is possible through hypnosis (and other mind control / fragmenting / post traumatic states), NDEs, etc, several findings and anomalies throughout my life make a lot of sense. --------------------------------- Part 2: The body and mind are apparently some sort of energetic sink or drain, they're "limiters" or "governers" as some have taken to calling them. Your "awareness" is tied to them by some sort of vortex created by the beating heart and the reciprocal contractions of the circulatory system, along with the CO2 and NO flux which is modulated by breathing (and also chemoreceptors blah blah alter the brain based on these). This is why NO levels, CO2 levels, and eg mild asphyxiation (as in that caused by low blood pressure and perfusion to the brain), hyperventilation, or rhythmic breathing, brings people into states of altered consciousness. The reason for all of this is very simple, reality needs to be consistent and believeable. Accordingly, the way they limit you is also braindead simple. It just looks at the ratio between sensory input, motor output, and proprioception, and then locks your manner and rate of perception to that. If you can get the body and mind, ie the psychophysical "garment" "off" of "you", then your actual pbasis of thought and experience are free to run at full speed. They aren't limited or governed by the body and you're basically like Neo in the Matrix, MINUS the body being able to keep up. The physical body can't keep up, which is why you're limited. If you send an intention to move and there's a huge lag between then and it happening, it isn't believeable or engaging, and it leaves you too much time to think and ponder. If you decouple those systems described previously and allow them to function as they actually are, in a desync'd state, then you're left sending signals to your body and having to wait for what seems like minutes for them to start happening. You can watch a paintball whizz passed your head in slow motion, every detail on it (ie it nullifies the other illusion meant to make reality believeable, motion blur, ie flicker fusion threshold which is total bullshit to begin with given that the unconscious mind sees anything subliminal that you hide in that anyway because it isn't subject to any of this limiter bullshit) however your body won't move in realtime. So it wants this be believeable and engaging, therefore there is an aspect of you (unconscious mind) that sees and runs closer to full speed, and then the aspect you live through, the conscious mind, which is sync'd to motor output, prone to desiring linear cause and effect, and is overall relatively stupid as well as worthless and in the way. That's hard to accept when you've been programmed to think your conscious decision making is the driver of events in your life (it isn't), but the effectiveness of things like placebo and nocebo, hypnotic effects, somnambulists performing feats they never learned and that the person could not do while awake. All of this makes it obvious what the body really is and what's really going on here... Prior threads: 1) http://web.archive.org/web/20240726035514/https://lainchan.org/hum/res/77231.html 2) http://web.archive.org/web/20240726182533/https://lainchan.org/hum/res/83136.html 3) http://web.archive.org/web/20240726234931/https://lainchan.org/hum/res/83151.html 4) https://archive.is/FiaPr
Tank · 2024-07-27 08:22
To the poster who replied earlier, see: >>>/q/12777 End of the thread makes the situation and my personal conclusion clear. This thread can remain for whoever wants to use it, but my own participation will be minimal. They removed the archive links at the bottom of my OP as well, so all prior discussion has been purged. I could repost them but they would just delete it, ad infinitum.
Tyrell Wellick · 2024-07-27 08:41
I tend to take a more materialist bent than you in general, but here goes. I think it was Ray Peat that identified an inverse correlation between colon volume and intelligence, which to me is related to what you're talking about here. The mechanism of action being the great innervation of the gut, as well as the blood supply being diverted from the brain. Solipsistic gnosticism isn't the answer to me though. I tend to think of it as inert and infertile, a respite for the materially dysfunctional, and a part of the ruling class ideology, a new form of "divine right" granting the right to exploitation by means of strictly fake stuff. Perhaps mastery of bioelectricity can be used one day to accelerate the rate of body plan evolution, removing the GI tract, placing the metabolism outside the body plan. Humanity's descending the trophic levels appears to be a persistent "theme". https://www.bitsofwonder.co/p/a-revolution-in-biology > So it wants this be believeable and engaging, therefore there is an aspect of you (unconscious mind) that sees and runs closer to full speed, and then the aspect you live through, the conscious mind, which is sync'd to motor output, prone to desiring linear cause and effect, and is overall relatively stupid as well as worthless and in the way. There's something to this. The cerebrum contains many fewer neurons than the cerebellum layed out much less densely, and it is often excessive verbalization which is the hallmark of a stupid person, or a woman in estrus. In the common parlance, they talk about this in terms of "wordcels" vs. "shape rotators". If you haven't ever read it, I think "Mind and Tissue" by Ray Peat would be interesting to you, if only as a devil's advocate.
Dujour · 2024-07-27 09:23
>>83160 >Perhaps mastery of bioelectricity can be used one day to accelerate the rate of body plan evolution This is basically Jack and the Little Sisters in Bioshock. Refer to the Notch signaling pathway, ADAM family of proteins, Fringe and Delta systems (eg Lunatic fringe in particular), Klotho, and mindbomb-1. I was led to a local graveyard and bombarded with synchronicities around this, one grave was literally a statue of a Little Sister who died at 8, with the last name of Ambrosia and first name a derivative of Eleonor, who also looked like Eleanor Lamb. Blows my mind. So many other syncs and people saying stuff about being a little sister, then my mother gets a call from someone named "Blacklow". Bam, connected it all together. Blacklow Lab, mindbomb-1, Jack's accelerated aging and killswitch, Andrew Ryan. As far as bioelectromagnetics and magnetobiology, or autoevolution as I dubbed it, Ray Peat calls it something else, that's basically a derezzed topic here too. Unless you adhere to some very narrow, fluctuating, and arbitrary parameters which exist in the mind of the mods. Rapture in Bioshock is also basically the mind of Lilith btw, who was buried under the red sea. The red sea is where you crossover from alpha and beta, to theta and delta sleep. ie <=8 Hz. 8 hertz, Jews do their cutting on the eighth day, 8 hurts? Get it? A cutting away, like cutting around and leaving the psychophysical "garment"? Jews are dimwit carriers, they don't even know what they were tasked with preserving. Pic 3 and 2 are functionally equivalent btw.
SHODAN · 2024-07-28 14:40
Thread is kill. Much sad, very goncern. D: D: :DDDD ^ o~( : ^ O )
Drifter · 2024-08-04 02:24
Bumping again because the administration of this site essentially destroyed any flow or traction my thread topic had gained by deleting it repeatedly, then going back and settling for the blue text after removing my archive links. My thread never picked up again, all prior contributions were erased. And you better believe I'm not just going to fncking pretend otherwise and let those fnckers delete delete delete and then slink off. Prior threads: 1) http://web.archive.org/web/20240726035514/https://lainchan.org/hum/res/77231.html 2) http://web.archive.org/web/20240726182533/https://lainchan.org/hum/res/83136.html 3) http://web.archive.org/web/20240726234931/https://lainchan.org/hum/res/83151.html 4) https://archive.is/FiaPr 5) https://archive.ph/LH2Ct It does matter after they effectively killed my thread (again, not the first time) regardless. Delete it again. Do an IP or cookie ID search and delete everything I've ever posted. OBEY(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf. Do not whine and cry about 8chan, lainchan.jp, "quality", "invasions", "newfags", mods, bans, or kalyx outside of /q/. Do not spam or advertise unrelated content.) Nothing about us trying to keep your thread up and unbanned despite your repeated rule violations. )
Neuromancer · 2024-08-05 20:44
>>83259 I always radiated towards bioshock as a kid I played it at just the right age where it's twist hit just right and definitely played a role in my strong favor for self reliance, knowing a bit about everything cause it'll be useful in some bizzare, unknown way later on, and learning a lot about myself just zoning out remembering aspects of the game and how certain parts made me remember parts of my life, or think of parts of my life in a new way, etc. Keep up the good work anon.