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Marly Krushkhova · 2024-07-26 07:42
I suppose what gets me is the presence of a "mind over matter" component. A recent example being eyesight. I don't recall how it happened or over what course, but at a certain point in high school my eyesight was bad enough that I learned to recognize people by how they moved, their clothing, their "vibe", and general traits. And yet I began to notice occasionally I would wake up and for a few seconds my eyesight would be perfect, before fading away. So it was clearly possible. I learned to focus and so on, was aware of the "Bates Method" but didn't really use it, found something that worked and fixated on it. Got it to the point where, without squinting, I could consciously focus and have perfect eyesight quite reliably. At the longest point I maintained this almost constantly for several hours at a time, while moving and doing other things. And yet some days it just won't work for long, or I'm in the wrong frame of mind, or it's been too long since I've really focused on it... Like, are you kidding me? Let me get this straight. Whether it be a function of the intraocular muscles, the muscles outside the eye, posture and tension in the neck, the brainstem... whatever it is, "the system" or the "psychophysical apparatus" is demonstrably mechanically capable of working, at will, and to an extent automatically is persisted in, and yet I stop focusing on it and it stops working on its own. And this is supposed to be believeable, I am supposed to work with this, tolerate this, and go forward with suspension of disbelief intact. It gets to a certain point and I just have to say no. Something is wrong here, it's not believeable. It's nonsense, like a sort of prompt. The universe gives me this and I'm supposed to confabulate a narrative, about this or that thing I did or didn't do, or maybe metals are being liberated and shifting around redepositing in the body, or maybe atrophy from disuse and the muscles get tired, or whatever it is. I'm supposed to make something up and then believe in it, so I can submit to the reality where what is supposed to be, what is clearly possible, and how it's supposed to work, automatically, on its own, all the time, doesn't. And won't. And cannot. And perhaps even should not! Because of this reason, and that reason! Yes it happens that way because it should, and I consent to it, submit to it, believe in it! It really is like the body is a trap. It's a sort of prison. An energetic sink one's awareness is trapped within so the world can drain and devour you through it. It's bizarre. I've often found, within reason, the more you degrade and diminish the physical body, the better the mind functions. Like it's "heavy" to go through the brain, and you are better off getting it out of the way so it doesn't interfere. One trick I found a long time ago was sleep deprivation. Don't eat or sleep and at 22 - 26 hours consume caffeine through some form, maybe kava or something as well doesn't seem to affect the core process. This accelerates learning. Makes it work better. Everything becomes easy, anything you read is rapidly stored verbatim, with no resistance. Zero. Straight in, stored, move on. So basically, you spiked stress hormones by not eating or sleeping, prevented the brain from clearing out metabolic waste, then took in a substance that cuts blood flow to the brain by 40 to 50% on top of it, redirecting it away from the prefrontal cortex and to the limbic system. And this makes it work better. I practically beat the thing into submission with no regard... and it works better. All of its limiters are removed. And the downstream consequences of this process are surprisingly minor. There is some sort of system within the brain, or perhaps post-hypnotic suggestion, which puts limiters on it. And then you experience these limiters and come to believe in it, as though it's natural. When it isn't. It's just BS to make you slog a bit more and therefore run on the wheel more while progressing significantly less. Obstacles are artificial, made up, illusions. Things are made difficult to slow you down and distract you. And somehow this is done by forcing the mind to work through the physical body, which is designed to cripple you. Studying what is possible through hypnosis (and other mind control / fragmenting / post traumatic states), NDEs, etc, several findings and anomalies throughout my life make a lot of sense. ------------------------------ Part 2: The body and mind are apparently some sort of energetic sink or drain, they're "limiters" or "governers" as some have taken to calling them. Your "awareness" is tied to them by some sort of vortex created by the beating heart and the reciprocal contractions of the circulatory system, along with the CO2 and NO flux which is modulated by breathing (and also chemoreceptors blah blah alter the brain based on these). This is why NO levels, CO2 levels, and eg mild asphyxiation (as in that caused by low blood pressure and perfusion to the brain), hyperventilation, or rhythmic breathing, brings people into states of altered consciousness. The reason for all of this is very simple, reality needs to be consistent and believeable. Accordingly, the way they limit you is also braindead simple. It just looks at the ratio between sensory input, motor output, and proprioception, and then locks your manner and rate of perception to that. If you can get the body and mind, ie the psychophysical "garment" "off" of "you", then your actual pbasis of thought and experience are free to run at full speed. They aren't limited or governed by the body and you're basically like Neo in the Matrix, MINUS the body being able to keep up. The physical body can't keep up, which is why you're limited. If you send an intention to move and there's a huge lag between then and it happening, it isn't believeable or engaging, and it leaves you too much time to think and ponder. If you decouple those systems described previously and allow them to function as they actually are, in a desync'd state, then you're left sending signals to your body and having to wait for what seems like minutes for them to start happening. You can watch a paintball whizz passed your head in slow motion, every detail on it (ie it nullifies the other illusion meant to make reality believeable, motion blur, ie flicker fusion threshold which is total bullshit to begin with given that the unconscious mind sees anything subliminal that you hide in that anyway because it isn't subject to any of this limiter bullshit) however your body won't move in realtime. So it wants this be believeable and engaging, therefore there is an aspect of you (unconscious mind) that sees and runs closer to full speed, and then the aspect you live through, the conscious mind, which is sync'd to motor output, prone to desiring linear cause and effect, and is overall relatively stupid as well as worthless and in the way. That's hard to accept when you've been programmed to think your conscious decision making is the driver of events in your life (it isn't), but the effectiveness of things like placebo and nocebo, hypnotic effects, somnambulists performing feats they never learned and that the person could not do while awake. All of this makes it obvious what the body really is and what's really going on here. Prior thread: http://web.archive.org/web/20240726035514/https://lainchan.org/hum/res/77231.html
Dox · 2024-07-26 07:53
what is the point of posting these kind of posts if any opposite opinion gets deleted.....
Pris · 2024-07-26 08:17
And of course I forgot the subject line: "Physical body as a programmed limiter"
Technician · 2024-07-26 08:24
>>83137 >137 Checked. I think you mean "what is the point of this site". Last posts made in the last thread weren't archived in the thread itself. http://web.archive.org/web/20240726043518/https://lainchan.org/mega/index.html
Just another Random Lainon · 2024-07-26 08:32
>>83139 i am still working on my version of lainchan but it will take some time and i will need good keyboard warriors to give me a help too
Random · 2024-07-26 08:41
Oh wow the entire thread got deleted, huh? >>83140 lainchan, tinychan and vichan are open source on github. just copy it exactly lol. use njalla for hosting. pay with crypto
Frank Garza · 2024-07-26 08:43
>>83140 Well, maybe back in the day I would've helped on a project like that (inb4 "and seen it become what you sought to escape") but being >30 now I'm kind of just too old for this sh!t. If I post my thoughts on some slow chan I expect it to eiother still be there later or to fall off page 10, not randomly 404'ing. I used to come here for the radio way back in the day and the vibe was great, now it kind of is like kicking dead whales down the beach. Whatever.
Hiro Protagonist · 2024-07-26 08:49
>>83141 >Oh wow the entire thread got deleted, huh? Of course. What else would you do? Done it once, done it twice, probably just going to keep doin' it. As if no one notices. Probably some labyrinthian inner structure that filters sensory reality and acts as an interface, so it just veils and quietly reworks or simply divides and compartmentalizes their memory, not unlike how they deal with threads. As within, so without.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2024-07-26 08:58
>>83142 well , well, well it will not be for regular users. Only the most greatest will reside there , it will be about actions and not words. Quality information mining/sharing and proper company.
Ender · 2024-07-26 09:08
>>83144 I used to post about bioelectromagnetics and magnetobiology as well. Thread blew up with bots and sh!lls, then they derezzed the topic. At this point I don't even know what I'd do interacting with primarily real people, kinda pointless at this stage. Hope your project goes well.
Drano · 2024-07-26 09:14
>>83145 >bioelectromagnetics and magnetobiology thats the best approach for creation of narnia like drugs very hot!
Bobby Newmark · 2024-07-26 09:38
>>83143 >What else would you do? I would not delete the thread and just let the complaints peter out
Rick Deckard · 2024-07-26 10:47
>>83136 I had almost managed to cure my eyesight after I experienced the Source, the One, the All, etc whatever you want to call it but decided not to as it would be a hassle explaining why I didn't need glasses anymore so I know what you are talking about. There is a spiritual layer to reality, and the thing is all of reality is simply a construct, a dream as to speak including spirituality. Anything is possible, so what do you want to do? Go do it.