how to recover from being a slacker

I'm 24 years old and have been bouncing from dead end job to dead end job (think barista, waiter, bartender) I still live with my parents who I do not care for but I am thankful I can be here, they are not good people, I think I've hit that age where I don't think I can like bullshit and just slack off anymore. I hate working 9 to 5, 5 days a week so fuarrrking badly. A lot of jobs seem to offer other shifts but all of them require some sort of schooling and a paper that says "yeah I did this im not stupid) the issue with that being is I have the math skills of a 5th grader so I am stupid. I slacked off my entire life in school, and now as a 24 year old I struggle with multiplication tables and how to properly write a single paper. How do I recover now.

You don't. Your dream life is over. Now you just suffer. Maybe you'll figure something out by 30, but need to start learning right now. Find a teacher.

I work night shift at a gas station. don't gotta do much cause it's mostly dead. spend most of the night on the internet or playing games. I live off wages from that job plus ebt and soykaf. might lose my apartment in a few months but I'm looking into section 8 housing. I'm schizo so doing just about anything is hard for me, if for no other reason I'm extremely lazy, but I get by. my parents told me I had to be out of the house by 20, so I was out of the house by 20. you probably at this point will never truly live comfortably, but you can survive and find happiness. just try man.

Just go to a trade school. There is a lot of things that dont involve writing papers or doing any complicated math, I never memorized multiplication tables because i at the time thought id be smarter if I manually did the math every time even if slower.

your life isn't over. you can get your IT certifications. i mean what are your interests, find a interest and look into what a career in that would be like.

Look into what kind of jobs offers a schedule that you think is worth it. 4 day a week is being considered alot more nowadays but it's only in a few regions or few fields unfortunately. So look at the offers and consider your move with that in mind. In my town, the small businesses offer 4 day a week with about 30 / 35 hrs a week because that's how they can operate safely here without burning out the people. That or they are decent people. Which looks like they are. So bonus point for that.

>>82098 Dont you gotta know atleast basic math like measurements to do trades?

>>82090 Youre not alone op, im also stupid but our situations differ, you have work experience as i dont because I gave my life away mostly taking care of my grandmother since i was 13-19 years old. I worked 2 jobs in my life now im 25, basically im a loser who nobody doesnt really wanna touch. Do i care? ehhhh not really im not depressed I just dont care that much either ill kill myself, find a job that offers housing, or join the military reserves and live off the check. What im saying is you have a chance even though you hate your jobs, look on the brighter side of things if you get lets say a grunt IT job that pays 50k a year with your experience stacked up along with your certs you might have a better chance at doing it.

>>82132 > basically im a loser who nobody doesnt really wanna touch. what makes you think that ?

>>82141 Job Hrs dont want people who havent worked and stagnate, they want people who bounce to the next platform. Lose a job? You have to get another one, otherwise theyll laugh your resume to the trash. But generally these days a automatic robot just rejects it you have to call in wondering what happened even then if you dont work constantly people dont wanna hire you. Unless you just work online call centers which were both my 2 jobs I worked.

call centers are dead end. it seems preferable to fuarrrking suicide than sit the goddamn days away answering all the retards, ohh i definitely got butthurt just now

>>82090 >I'm 24 years old and have been bouncing from dead end job to dead end job Fuarrrk those who say you life's over. Terry Davis started coding TempleOS in 2003 when he was like 34, and you're fuarrrking still young.

>>82090 (same lain, they keep telling me make a better post or whatever) >I hate working 9 to 5, 5 days a week so fuarrrking badly. Now that you acknowledged not wanting to work 9 to 5, you have to have some plan to get out of it, even if you do it part-time. (and it's especially good when you still live with your parents) >A lot of jobs seem to offer other shifts but Just because you have 5th grade math skills doesn't mean you can't excel others at all. Well, you maybe should look up for some resources that explains the concepts until they get to your head, but you'll want to make things fun, which is a thing completely nonexistent in the modern education system.

>>82090 (same lain again) Maybe look up for some cybersecurity certs or something, even the White House officially endorsed skills-based hiring for cybersecurity and IT positions. Or better find your own way. Industrial society is like kicking dead whales down the beach and Luke Smith was right about the economy... And I made a vid for figuring our your path in life, hope it helps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rJNYT56HIo

>>82131 Depends what it is. Also doesnt have to be trade school i just was using that as a broad term for anything other than university degrees. For example the medical field has a lot of low end jobs that require very little training and they dont really use any math or anything but some of them pay decently for something that is just a six month course at most.

>>82094 You sound like a crab in a bucket. What's your job?

>>82220 you sound like a crab that wants back in the bucket. what's your job?

>>82158 >Luke Smith was right about the economy as much as i would love to buy land and live in the country i: >do not live in america where land laws are basically do whatever you want >do not have family that lives in the country and can help me starting out but man i would love to do it. even only living in a remote town and opening a plant shop or something. i'm just a 20yo NEET with no money though so i cannot conceive how i could even start.

If I was twenty and I wanted someone to tell me something useful, I'd be lucky if some old man told me "Just figure out how to stay healthy enought to get laid once in a while, and make enough money to be free to do what you like."

>>82437 >i'm just a 20yo NEET with no money though so i cannot conceive how i could even start. You start your own way even if you're broke. Ever heard about IT certs, or even entrepreneurship (read UNSCRIPTED by MJ DeMarco)? I'm pretty much (almost) in your same situation, but even if I don't know anyone in the country if I moved, it doesn't matter. I would see myself as if I'm playing Minecraft irl or something. Even if I'm not neurotypical I can get "good enough" with some practice. That's how I see it.

>>82445 yeah that was somewhat of a plan too for me, even though i don't exactly plan on to having an IT job forever. but for starters probably. only they are expensive as fuarrrk and i would probably need a part time job in the meantime otherwise i would just get kicked out lol other stupid plan was saying fuarrrk it and getting a cs degree and try live amd work in japan (degree is a requirement to live there). but i think that would be fun only for my younger years

Alright, so you've fallen off of the one pre-arranged path to success, which was a precarious and questionable path to begin with. This is an opportunity to expand your conceptions of what it is to live. Be skeptical of what others tell you to do. Develop standards for weighing whether a suggestion is a good one. It seems to me that the first thing to do is accept the proposition "I am the captain of my lifestyle." Yes, the wind and waves are not entirely in your control; storms will come. But when the weather is more or less fair, you set the course. If the ship is taking on water, it's up to you to figure out how to deal with that. If there are mutinous forces in your "crew," forces that act against your intentions, it's up to you to find a way to bring them into discipline. Expanding the metaphor is left as an exercise for the reader, but the key is to get the picture and accept it as a truth. Take up habits that help with setting agendas and sticking to them. Journal. Keep a calendar. Review the hours of your week and ask yourself what each is contributing to and whether they could be allocated more effectively. If you don't know what you want out of life so as to pursue goals, clarify your values. If you lack the experience needed to clarify your values, seek out that experience. This is all very vague, of course, but it's the best kind of advice I know to give. Good advice requires an understanding of the person's values and constraints, and thus I encourage you to figure it out for yourself since you're closest to those things. In terms of the economic picture, there are particular framings that can help persons of unconventional background, like, for instance, "You receive pay for the value you provide, not the hours you put in." Under this framing, the idea is to find a way to add value that is being overlooked by competitors or in a way that reflects an edge that is unique to you, like, idk, maybe you find it less obnoxious than the average person would to read a particular kind of technical manual and you can carve a niche from that. Only one of many possible examples. In other words, you'll have to get creative. Hope this helps in some small way

There are a lot of interesting positions that are not part of online discourse (IT, medicine, etc.). For example, I am a european and have worked onboard trains. It has genuinely been an interesting job, and there is room for 1950s-tier career growth into higher positions. Why don't you look to apply somewhere like that? >>82158 This is bad advice. Entry level IT and even moreso cyber positions are heavily oversaturated at the moment. Most of your competition will have degrees and will still be unable to land a role. I would also prefer if only the people with a passion made it into this field. Those driven only by money do the bare minimum and let corporations take charge of the culture.