Helping thread

I make this thread because even if i myself have beaten depression, i do give a damn about all the suffering souls out there that are still in the throes of it. So this is today's little hope rebellion: you can vent, confess, but most importantly share methods you've found to alleviate, punch back, repel the depression back to its little hidey-hole (a.k.a cuck hole which is where depression hides) You can share stuff that makes you happy, like art, games, music, stuff that gets you pumped; things you find beautiful or make you positively nostalgic... Share stuff you're proud of, your success stories, who cares if they're small things! OP making this thread because he saw a cute girl at the store who looked so lethargic, so crestfallingly depressed in retrospect i should have told her she's cute even if it's cringe. Then i remembered there are so many out there that are unhappy like that. I've been there, so if i can help, that's good.

In my belief system, solve et coagula ad infinitam, meaning no matter what your conflict is, eventually it will be resolved. But still it is good to help a suffering soul. When i was depressed, i found that what really helped was to get warm food in. Spicy is better. And to really sleep when tired, as well as clean myself. A lot of people starkly underestimate showers! They don't just cleanse your body, they cleanse your soul. Do you know DANCE WITH THE DEAD? an ironic band name! https://invidio.us/watch?v=Mmx5LAyjPMQ I'd listen to it while i play 20minutes till dawn.

Thanks for making this thread. You have a good heart. One thing that helps me is being careful not to dwell on negative thoughts and memories. I figured out that while you can't control how you feel directly, you can control what you think about, and that has a big effect on how you feel. So every time I catch some negative thought or memory trying to sneak in, I eject it and think about something else. It really seems to help. Also, trying to help other people helps you, too. Some of my best memories are about times I was able to help someone else.

>>82005 Absolutely! It sounds so dumb, "oh just try not being sad" but it works! You have a tiger that lives in the light and a tiger that lives in the darkness. Which ones lives? The one you feed. If you're feeding your mental energy to your problems and negativity all day, it's like you're watering it, it grows!

I had started out in a professional field that i really didn't like. I felt like i was stuck to slave away in a 9-to-5 job working on brain-numbing soykaf i didn't care about. As it turns out, the career i chose includes a lot of different specializations, and when i started following one such training course, i realized that what i was doing was not trash and i actually found the idea of living off this skill in my life to be feasible! In a way that makes me not want to kill myself, heh. It seems actually possible that i'll be doing something i'll enjoy doing. When this possibility is before you, you feel so light and free. https://archive.org/download/20-minutes-till-dawn-vb.-12679152-linux-repack/20_Minutes_Till_Dawn_%28vb.12679152%29_%5BLinux%2C_Repack%5D.run

>i do give a damn about all the suffering souls out there that are still in the throes of it why are you seriously selling me this bullshit of yours? you don't give a fuarrrk about anyone out there. don't believe? go on and explain me why the fuarrrk would you bother about anyone suffering. i'd wager your little head can't come up with anything that's not "muh nah empathy". fuarrrk you. i bet you have no idea why you do it. i bet you can't explain me why your duty is to help depressed people. you are just caught in the moment, neither considering what precedes, nor what follows. even your oppic is fuarrrking retarded. and do you tell me you wish to help. you fuarrrking wish to feed your ego, nothing more. your whole oppost contains no useful info btw, you fuarrrker, now where's your help? do you not see that by making this thread you prove that you are incapable of labor? what have you done to the purpose of helping others? why did you make a useless thread that relays your responsibility on others? >you can vent, confess, but most importantly share methods you've found to alleviate, punch back, repel the depression back to its little hidey-hole or i can tell you to fuarrrk off and drown myself in the immense pleasure of putting you down because your fuarrrking thread has no value at all. >You can share stuff that makes you happy what makes me happy is doing everything i can to make the likes of you unhappy and as miserable as possible. god forgive me for being this unsocial, but i am yet to learn being tame enough to ignore people who are so delusional about themselves >OP making this thread because he saw a cute girl at the store who looked so lethargic see? you're fuarrrking carried away by the appearance of a cute girl so you somehow feel entitled to soykaf. no fuarrrk you're not. you just fuarrrking create a stupid fantasy, self insert and now you're here rescuing cute little girls out there. you think calling a cute depressed girl cute is empathy? no it's fuarrrking egoism, because you don't do it to the end of doing a good act, but to the end of pleasing you swollen ego. if you were really the good man helping poor wretches you wouldn't brag about it in such a stupid manner. where are your theorems? where is your reasoning that would refute the depressive imagery and lead to truth that's happiness? where are your tools? where is your measure? tell me how you're going to help. tell me how far you are ready to push yourself. tell me what you know of happiness. show me that you're qualified to helping depressed people on their way out. show me that you fuarrrkING GIVE A DAMN. i don't see it. you're not helping anyone. nobody in here is fuarrrking helping anyone. i tell you, all of you are recycling the thermodynamic equilibrium, you can't create order, you can't lower entropy and as such you are forever stuck in the cages of your own consciences. look at your thread. look at the present responses. show me somebody who possesses anything useful for the purpose of fending off unhappiness. show me fuarrrking anybody. show me a single man out there! all of you should be back on reddit farming your upvotes 'cause everything you do, you do to the very end of being validated, even your fuarrrking disgusting laments about external validation are there because you want to be externally validated by the misfits. oooh my butt >food >shower >not to dwell on negative thoughts and memories >bro don't be sad pls make a fuarrrking wiki or something, but no of course you won't, you need to keep doing your duty all too well, that is recycling the equilibrium. keep repeating the same thing over and over again, buds and keep telling you that it's not fuarrrking madness being so deeply in denial about truth as you are, how can you fuarrrking seek to battle depression? all your efforts are so very aimed at not going out your comfort zone and not shattering your beliefs. and you seek happiness? tell what you are ready to do to the purpose of attaining it? are you ready to throw off your opinions and embrace new? are you ready to unlearn you present convictions and substitute them with better ones? no you didn't even fuarrrking think of it. keep recycling, keep being mad. i dwell on your madness. i feed off it. i build my strength upon your failures. even this post. i just can't deny myself the pleasure of telling you that you are ridiculous

>>82010 It's not my duty and i don't need a reason. I just want to. Why would i need a reason? Why would i need to meet any of your standards? In the end it's your choice if you want to be positive or negative. But i will tell you this in full sincerity. I will be positive. And you can't change soykaf about that. The likes of you will not drag me back to depression, because. So you can ascribe to me whatever dreamed up factoids you want. The alternative to making this thread and potentially helping someone is not making this thread and not helping anyone. A lot of words for little good mate

>>82011 >It's not my duty and i don't need a reason. and that's why i tell you to open your eyes and see finally that nobody will receive any help from you, and all you hear you'll find out to be flattery written in the heat of the moment. >The likes of you will not drag me back to depression, because. the likes of me will not move a fuarrrking finger to do anything to you. your depression will find you regardless of what i do. i won't even need to think about. i just know it as a fact that whoever searches in the wrong place will never find >A lot of words for little good mate but not quite as many as you will say in the long term. and i did not intent to do you any good at all, don't think me that stupid. you do yourself good on your own, of course if you have enough courage to face your face

>>82012 Why would a reason be required? And i don't really care about flattery. I don't really understand what you're on about, but if yelling at me made you feel better, i'm glad for that at least.

Actually you probably saw this and your mind flashed back to these godawful search results that are all corny and cheesy garbage written by feel-good mind-wellness karens which is essentially a blogpost thinly veiled in baseless psycho-pop platitudes. But when you name me a "people like you"... personally i'm offended! The thing is, earlier today and now also i'm in a deeply happy mood. The girl at the store made me realize some people got it real bad in their lives, and i thought to myself if there was a way to bring my happiness to those that need it. That's it. Or the youtube videos, terrible, where i can imagine they're all like ~like and subscribe~ in the end... Yes that would be ego!

>>82013 >Why would a reason be required? without reason there is no order and without order there is only thermodynamic equilibrium, which implies absence of progress, nothing but eternal transmutation between equivalent states. >And i don't really care about flattery. sell that to somebody else >I don't really understand what you're on about you're deeply fake, you know it, you perceive it, but you don't do anything to become genuine

>>82003 So glad to see you having the same drive as mine, Lain! I've started a channel a few months ago and tried making stuff specifically for THE lainon. At first, not many cared at all, and I thought I'd be almost stuck forever. Now things are getting much better, and I've only had 10 vids lol. This reminds me of the pic related experiment by Curl Ritcher. It's a proof that YOU can absolutely make way fuarrrking more than you really expect. Hope is just fuarrrking so powerful. >>82010 Btw, I'm not OP. Idk if you confused him with me (cuz im 'the youtube guy' here along with /tech/ swindles mccoop). I'm open to any feedback though.

>>82004 Solve et coagula indeed is my method as well. Been finding that exercise, diet, restriction of psychoactive substances to a minimum, plenty of fresh air and sunlight, solitude, abstaining from being around people who are depressed, avoiding the generally degenerative society, not sitting on chansites and the internet all day, and focusing on the purification of body, soul, and spirit does wonders, and FAST.

>>82019 >Btw, I'm not OP... No need to even reply to that guy's bizarre rant. He's obviously got some kind of really severe mental problem. Probably some kind of extreme personality disorder. He hasn't said one thing that makes sense. Textbook sociopath.

>>82019 I wonder if this is why I am not dead. It has been a long time of thinking of killing myself well over a decade actually two. I keep thinking maybe some of the people i want back in my life i could have back because I often avoided burning my bridges and ive put so much effort into other people's well being they would just feel guilty to leave me behind forever. Yet i still cant manage to improve anything in my life, i cant swim after decades of failure to improve my life.

>>82022 >He's obviously got some kind of really severe mental problem. I think he just wants to give us all some hope. He didn't claim really that he'd "help" anybody but just asked us to show things that make us happy. >>82023 >Yet i still cant manage to improve anything in my life Don't overthink it, lain. Just start really small, and little by little you'll get better. Also, I want to hear more from you about what's happening with you. I'm all ears.

>>82026 Im not sure how much id want to divulge.I have friends I am worried about their wellbeing who went missing. All of my pets are dead now. I have no friends left after some abandoned me it seems. I have no will to get a job since wage slavery seems so unbearable yet I dont even have a license to drive because i became very avoidant of driving for some reason i havent figured outhich would be fine if i wasnt living in the US where there is no ublic transport. I feel uncomfortable around people and get too anxious sometimes so i avoid social situations not that i have any to even go to. That isnt even really half of it.

>>82022 >>82023 Hi it's OP! >No need to even reply to that guy's bizarre rant Not sure who you're talking about but if it's >>82010, i don't think it's fair to just chuck him away as "severe mental problems". Depression can be a severe mental problem. So if we want to be sincere with helping we can't just throw him out. >>82026 >I think he just wants to give us all some hope For sure! But helping also. I just think that if yo u have the right tools and weapons then things get easier. I just want this thread to be a place where people share what makes them pumped up and stronger and so on. I do think this can help. I found that it is highly important to be wise about yourself. As in, know yourself, know how your function, be profound and understand yourself. When you know how you tick, you can detach yourself and take on a better perspective. Often you find people that hate 'the world' because it is materialistic, degenerate, empty, etc, and come to find out that they value the opposites to this and that's all. It's not even really true that the world is like that, that's just how they view it because they need the opposites such as purpose, meaning, soulfulness, authenticity, sincerity, honor, heroism, and that's what they want more of. Same thing as when studies show that smarter people, while they tend to be more depressed, also tend to deal with their issues better. On that note, check your mbti! Often people realize out of the blue that it's not their problem, it's just their surroundings aren't very compatible with them.

>>82022 >Textbook sociopath. hey hey finally somebody called me a sociopath! it's because you're the one who is more on the sociopathic side of the continuum, because you're a dishonest liar, that seeks easy gratification and hates those who fail to provide it, like me. all the while i'm entirely honest in my reviling of op for doing something great without giving it a second thought and without making a proper preparation. you make helping people a fun activity where you're supposed to be thanked and called useful. but you're terribly useless and deserve no thanks. and when i tell you that, you hate me and call me names. and then you call me mentally ill and pathetic! isn't it fascinating? whew! >>82023 it's because you're drowning in your own lies. >ive put so much effort into other people's well being that's lie number one, you have put zero effort into anyone's well being, only in yours. somehow you thought that making their life "better" you will make yours "better" as well. nope. until you remain unhappy and broken there is nothing you can do to make anyone's life better, because you simply don't know what's better. if you knew, you wouldn't be unhappy. but you will never be happy through living others' lives for them. wake the fuarrrk up samurai and start finally to get rid of that burden of things that are not yours. unhappiness and happiness are both cognitive illusions, you're entitled to freely put yourself into either as you choose. physical pain in the only really formidable impediment, but some people were able to overcome even that. >they would just feel guilty to leave me behind forever. lie number two. the more you give a fuarrrk about what others think, the more unhappy you are. if they feel like being unhappy it's their fault and their problem. your responsibility is your own happiness only, then your responsibility is to show them their wrongs as much as is allowed to you by god or whatever. if they still refuse to admit reason and turn to unhappiness, it's none of your business, because there is nothing you can do about that. you can of course come back to being unhappy with them and who'll be the wiser in that case? >Yet i still cant manage to improve anything in my life lie number three. instead of vainly chasing things that are not allowed, maybe it's time to give them up? casting off burdens makes breathing a whole lot easier

>>82034 Literally none of that is a lie, you're just forcing your own personality and goals on others.

>>82035 >you're just forcing your own personality and goals on others op i understand you so much, you need to understand that nobody except you knows what's better for yourself and how to improve but i recommend you to find a hobby you like and take a shower, maybe read a book, also go socialize and find a friend or two and a partner to fuarrrk during long evenings also do you have a job?

>>82028 I used to be so anxious i was basically ill. Like, anxiety as a disability. It was crazy but i gave it the best medicine in my eyes which is time and things eventually worked out. Well not just time, experience also. Experience is a great tool for this i think, but that's just my opinion. >>82034 Anon, what it all boils down to is this: if ranting like that is truly good for you, rant all you like. Rant away! Flame up! But if it just makes you angry and angsty, i'd advise you to drop it. You shouldn't let me get to you like this. Who the fuarrrk am i to bring you negativity? Just drop your attention towards me, i'm not really all that worth it after all (just another bitch on the world wide web) It all depends on what this thread is doing to you- >>82036 Are you frustrated with me? Just say precisely what you truly want. >>82035 Not gonna tell you what to do, but more patience, more understanding, less antagonism, that's what i'd go with.

>>82036 Im not OP >>82040 >Not gonna tell you what to do, but more patience, more understanding, less antagonism, that's what i'd go with. I am already patient. I literally wait around decades on end. Im understanding of others to the point I am willing to speak with violent criminals, at a safe distance of course. I hate conflict so there is no antagonism. The problem is my brain is stuck on a fixed pattern where if I want to do something it tries to stop me and also had some bad luck along the way.

>>82040 >if ranting like that is truly good for you, rant all you like i don't know if it's good for me. i suspect it's not. poking you is fun though. i figured talking to anyone is useless, so throwing in some spice should at least make it fun and heck it does! also i secretly hope my rants will make at least some of you consider becoming less superficial and ridiculous, although my rational mind tells me it's just as useless as anything else in here. have you been scrolling this thread? actually you have. you even wrote here, trying your best to be the nice calm guy. too bad that under the mask you're probably afraid of getting all hot or whatever. i'm still figuring this out though, so it's kinda a wild guess. it's just that people seem to cope differently with being useless. i for one get all unfriendly and point out that you're fuarrrking humiliating yourself by being useless and by throwing around useless platitudes like >be wise about yourself as if anybody is actually going to make them useful. how the fuarrrk am i even supposed to wise about myself? wtf many other people however put on this dumb mask of condescending, relating and understanding. i don't know why though. it's as if saying "i understand you" makes you feel less useless or whatever. it's like you give in to being useless and just kinda pretend you're not by being all nice and patient. think hard about it. you tell some dumb text on your screen that you relate to it. what do you achieve? you partake in the negativity, share a bit of it, put it through yourself and then spit it out, wrapped in slight melancholy of being useless. yeah fuarrrk it i'm a terrible speaker, i barely understand it myself let alone being able to communicate. you get the idea. you hide behind that mask of flimsy wisdom, but it's all fuarrrking ridiculous. and it's ridiculous how you take pleasure in receiving such flimsy wisdom in response. you are a one big generality that bears to useful input. read the fuarrrking thread god jammit. arghh. i tell you, i personally don't give a fuarrrk about you relating to me or whatever. your "empathy" and "kindness" are fake and useless, basically your way of grasping at the remnants of social interaction you can have, because you're so afraid of being rejected yet one more time even on imageboards. and i tell you, they're not just useless to me, they are also useless to those who don't recognize the counterfeit help. >>82043 >Im not OP took a while for you to figure that out didn't it

no i just got done and he begs me to get started again. no you just read this >Im understanding of others to the point I am willing to speak with violent criminals now read it one more time >Im understanding of others to the point I am willing to speak with violent criminals and then >at a safe distance of course i'm betting your understanding is somewhere... agrh i hate prescribing people ages! anyway what the fuarrrk is this? come please share you damn wisdom with everyone else in here? what understanding are you talking about? maybe you're an idiot that thinks psychopaths are also people, though they can't resist their urges to sawmill you to pieces and then eat the mess. maybe you think their mind isn't void and they just want normal humanly interaction? lay out your theory of mind before us and impress us with your knowledge. no, fuarrrk, you just make a fuarrrking ENORMOUS claim out your ass, but you will never move a fuarrrking finger to support it because you fuarrrking can't. because you have neither understanding nor whatever you claim you have. what the fuarrrk people. lucky me that i have an appointment soon so i need to cool down

Torpus here, >>82028 >I have friends I am worried about their wellbeing who went missing. I had that same feeling with my missing friend. It's been over a year and have absolutely no idea what he's doing. I just wished him the best, like the countless lains like me who struggle with life, and the rest of the world. Accept that you're not in charge of anyone's life but yours. That's obvious i guess. >All of my pets are dead now. I feel you lain, I had 3 goldfish dead in the past. I think we're just left apart, I don't think they're suffering, really. >I have no friends left after some abandoned me it seems. You are LITERALLY like me here, lain. Sometimes I just wish I had an XMPP account or something to chat with other lains, I don't know... I wanted to tell you that there will be someone who'll genuinely care about you. I had some lains who really liked my channel, and I intend to add an email once it become a bit big enough i.e. ~1,000 subs. Whatever. >I have no will to get a job Idk if you're a NEET but you don't need employment to make a living at all. Please read "UNSCRIPTED" by MJ DeMarco thoroughly which talks about entrepreneurship. Sounds like a scammy thing, I know, but it literally was somehow life-changing to me as I finally got to understand how businesses succeed in the first place. Maybe you'll need to be stuck as a wagie for a few years as you're doing something on the side, and that's pretty fine. >I feel uncomfortable around people and get too anxious sometimes In the last part of my loneliness video I sort of talked about that. I think it all starts from a subconscious, somewhat false perception of others as if they're threatening to us. Maybe some journaling about embarrassing situations should work, where you describe what the other person said/did and then how you felt about it. Anyway, lain. Idk but maybe some of my vids can help with some of your problems I got rid of. Maybe take a watch if you want. >>82029 >check your mbti! I think mbti is a bit ridiculous. A lot of people advocate for it when it is literally unscientific at all. They want to categorize people by 16 personalities that are virtually all the same and see what to expect from each one. I had an mbti test 3 years ago and they told me im EMFJ LMAO. That didnt help at all in knowing myself. What actually did what some self-reflection question prompts that I answer on a text file.

>>82047 No. I wouldn't be close with someone like that, I was just talking about one time conversations where I just ask questions instead of passing judgment to someone who might not even care. That stems from my interest in the human mind and effects of society so i analyze these people. I just am saying I like to know how people become the way they are so I know how to prevent it in myself and others and I don't just assume too much about anyone. Knowing others can help you know about yourself because you can see where you are alike and where you differ in how you approach different things. This helps make better decisions. I only ever attempted to get close to people who were empathetic toward me and we share some understanding with eachother. >>82052 >I had that same feeling with my missing friend Sorry to hear that. > I feel you lain, I had 3 goldfish dead in the past. It's a lot worse when it is a long lived cuddly pet that you had most your life. > I wanted to tell you that there will be someone who'll genuinely care about you. Ive had this but I just become too much for some people or their life too much for them and they isolate. Im one of the rare few it seems able to handle the problems of others at my worst. > Please read "UNSCRIPTED" by MJ DeMarco thoroughly which talks about entrepreneurship. I'm not sure id really know what to do for something like a small business. I have many interests but never built a skill on anything to high a level as id find useful and I am not interested in making money off of other people's work just my own since I dont care for bossing people around or using them. Im only able to work for a few months or I get kicked off my welfare money where id be screwed if im not making enough which has been part of what stops me from trying different jobs out or from doing my own thing. >I think it all starts from a subconscious, somewhat false perception of others as if they're threatening to us. Maybe but I also have bad experiences sometimes like some obese girl uttering under her breathe "you're in my way" as I walked past her to leave a gas station. I later saw her smoking so maybe she was just cranky from not having her smokes. Other times if someone looks at me too long i wonder if they are thinking anything bad about me. It mainly comes up if it's a cute girl or anyone loud mouthed. >Maybe some journaling about embarrassing situations should work, where you describe what the other person said/did and then how you felt about it. Im not sure if that would do anything.

My life has unexpectedly shattered and crumbled but maybe i can clean away the rubble and build something much better anew

Things that have helped me: - writing in a journal when I feel bad or directionless - doing meditations - learning japanese because any time I start thinking too much then doing it will take all my focus - having hope for something in the future I got out of a long-term relationship a few months ago and I am still very very sad about it and it kinda resurfaced all my insecurities the way it ended. Anytime I have any time alone with my thoughts right now it just eats me up inside ;-;

>>82010 big hug for a big dummie :3

>>82003 Perhaps positivity will redeem this board, perhaps positivity will one day reign and we can all love lain. Keep the light glowing lain, I’m rooting for a positive culture shift here.

>>82003 I'll be straightforward: Meaningful prepping exercise, letting go of ideals when they die, and masturbating. Meaningful exercise is an easy one: getting exercise has all of it's well known benefits, but training specifically for the goal of preparedness in case of a disaster or emergency by hiking under weight and performing weightlifts that exercise large dynamic motions will give a lot of purpose to the time spent exercising and fulfills you in knowing that you are prepared in ways other people arent. Letting go of ideals when they die is a part of growth that is sometimes hard to accept, but is necessary if you want to actually be happy. I thought I was into computer science and programming for a long time. I read many of the books, attended the conferences, joined hacker meetings, and even went to college for it. But over the years I would set goals for myself within that field that I just couldn't meet; when I tried to force myself to sit down and learn a programming language or try to wrap my head around crackign techniques I wasn't using, I couldn't. And I discovered that I really don't enjoy programming, especially not for the joy of programming itself. Sometime in the middle of getting my CS degree I realized that my lack of motivation to become the best in this field wasn't because I was lazy or defective, but because deep down I didn't care for CS anymore; the novelty was gone. This lead to me giving up the time I could've spent chasing a goal that was meaningless to me and using that time to try out a lot of different things that excited me that increased my overall skillset and made me happier with myself. Masturbation is the touchy one (haha). People rant against mastubation all the time for whatever reason, but I think that they are talking about pornography, or that they don't separate mastubating from pornography for some reason. For those of you who think this way, occasionally masturbating on its own is great. Being intimate with yourself slowly using your two hands and your mind's eye is the best way of going about things because you can really be in control of the scenarios that make you happy and because you can find what parts of your body are sensitive. Knowing a lot of other men, it seems as if the majority of guys either jack off as quickly as possible or fall down the rabbit hole of buying odd sex toys and fetish equipment, creating other insidious problems. To all of you I say: Relax. Start off by laying down for the day with the lights off and massaging your muscles in bed. Scratch your head and stretch however you need. Then work your hands towards where you feel they need to go. Try a bunch of different styles and find what makes your head feel full. Listen to your own breath and let out whatever feels natural (but not so loud that others hear you). Prolong the finish and go to sleep afterwards. You'll find that you sleep better and that you'll have sometime at night to look forward to. This is a weird way of putting it, but in simple terms: masturbate like how you think a woman would and it'll feel a lot better than watching porn or completely abstaining.

>>82087 you can try evolution of language, that way you will have an easy time learning all the languages plus the bonus of the relations between them

if a had a beehive of such bees i wouldn't even know it's possible to be unhappy

>>82102 thanks lainon i didnt know about this

>>82087 Absolutely! Writing a journal helps, i kept a journal for years where i wrote my innermost gravest soykaf while i was also dealing with grief etc. I say it helps in a specific way: it clears the dust in your head.

>>82005 >>82006 I love this idea. Sometimes it doesn't work outright though. I find that I can't just "will" my way into thinking positive. If I'm having a rough day I find it useful to get outside and go to my local park or whatever, and remind myself that I'm just part of the world, yet my life is what I make of it. I define what my problems are, and when I look around, it all seems so simple. TL;DR go touch grass

>>82100 >I thought I was into computer science and programming for a long time. I read many of the books, attended the conferences, joined hacker meetings, and even went to college for it. But over the years I would set goals for myself within that field that I just couldn't meet; when I tried to force myself to sit down and learn a programming language or try to wrap my head around crackign techniques I wasn't using, I couldn't. And I discovered that I really don't enjoy programming, especially not for the joy of programming itself. Sometime in the middle of getting my CS degree I realized that my lack of motivation to become the best in this field wasn't because I was lazy or defective, but because deep down I didn't care for CS anymore; the novelty was gone. This lead to me giving up the time I could've spent chasing a goal that was meaningless to me and using that time to try out a lot of different things that excited me that increased my overall skillset and made me happier with myself. I wish I had released this sooner. It took a drug trip for me to realize that I'm not as into programming as I thought. I still work in the industry. It's good money and not a whole lotta work. But I spend my free time on music these days.

Yes, this is how cognitive behavioral therapy works. The deeply held beliefs that we formed through experience in turn inform the automatic thoughts by which we interpret the events of our lives. Our interpretation affects the emotions we feel about the events, determining our behaviors in response to the events, all of which further informs our core beliefs, which will shape future thoughts and emotions. By monitoring, recording, intercepting, and rewriting the reactive thoughts, you can intercept and influence the formation of the core beliefs (here you should understand "beliefs" as "assumptions about things" and not like "core values"). Attached: 1. Excerpt from "The Feeling Good Handbook" detailing this process (21 pages) 2. Full handbook (767 pages) (actually, too large, see https://files.catbox.moe/umjia0.pdf ) Dr. Burns is a pretty entertaining read, I mean, he's not George Carlin or anything, but he isn't entirely dry either. If you're interested but have doubtrs about spending the time on it, at least check out the preface/introduction or "thumb" through and see if anything catches your eye

>>82034 This is the worst post on the entire site. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

I tried a bunch of different jobs and every time I end up feeling retarded. Everyone is way better than me, higher-ups get pissed at my incompetence and I end up getting fired or quitting out of shame shortly after. I cannot hold a job. The few things I'm good at require having either prior experience I don't have or a piece of paper saying I spent an absurd amount of money being scammed by a university. I am genuinely thinking about leaving all this soykaf behind to live on the streets or in the woods. Either that or I might as well kill myself

>>82328 why do i have to hear it from (You)? you literally crawl out of your crab bucket to dig up a long buried and forgotten post and everything your little brain comes up with is a hollow insult. if you are so eager to humiliate me, you have to gather whatever braincells you have left and at least present an argument. so far what did you say? >This is the worst post on the entire site can you really honestly stand up to this statement? you know every post? you made a comparison? really damn convince me, can't you? >Go back now this is the most impotent insult you can make and you know it. go back where? there's no back for me, no forward as well. maybe you should go back instead? at least you know which way it is >to whatever hole you crawled out of. you made an empty effortless post not even trying to do whatever you thought you were doing and send me to a 'hole' from which i 'crawled out'? get back in the bucket, please, or show me you're capable of holding a conversation

>>82005 >>82006 I agree with geeding the right emotions but dont forget sometimes its wise to revisit situations you feel emotionally stuck in. The body cant forget what it needs healed. Going back and parsing a situation when youre not directly in it can help you better understand everything. My rule of thumb is if it wont get me stuck in a negative feedback loop and it feels like somethings missing Ill parse a bad memory out. >>82010 ahahahahaha you only see what you want to see. >>82021 Many good suggestions. Those and the other suggested tricks all point to journaling being a key underlying aspect. Being able to track yourself and change bit by bit while at the same time giving yourself proof youre changing is very beneficial. Though I do get not being able to journal consistently and just going for it. Its like a calorie counter for your depression and mental ailments. The tricks that worked for me were cutting bs out on a weekly basis even if it was just 2% of a problem gone chipping away at it made quitting entirely easier. Keeping track really roughly just in my head counting out whats left to remove or mitigate kept me strongly on the war path. Cutting out drinking, smoking, fast food, porn, counting calories, basic calisthenics and dumbbell exercise routines using a bag of books or a milk jug filled with water are all great ways to climb out of a depressed state. If you deal with adhd I also recommend trying a magnesium supplement. That made combatting any part of my depression actually feasible.

>>82010 Chad has spoken, surprised that nobody likes this good detailed long-post

>>82010 I've been ignoring this thread but this is the most blunt and raw reality check I've ever seen. The truth is always darker than you want it to be. Only fool's who've been poisoned by modernity seek "happiness".

>>82393 >he meant to type "fools" GEG

>>82010 >oppost >original post post

>>82402 no its possessive. If you're possessed by a fool, then your foolishness is greater still.