lainchan / hum
Is Ana Kasparian legit? / leftist leaders
Rikitikitavi · 2024-03-23 12:47
So, with the dawn of Zizek into his reactionary dementia, closing up of Vausch, liberalism of Destiny, loss of faith in the left of Hasan, popular absence of badiou and retirement of Chomsky, i was looking into people who could potentially take place for the "new leftist intellectual" TM
what are your opinions on the aforementioned figures? Other ones? Do you think Ana Kasparian is legit? I see her pandering to JP's apprentices with "privileged belief" being that of leftists (who are, according to her, non-consequentialist and polarized). Imo feels weird because most rich people are still right-wing
I think what happened is that she is beautiful and rich and the left hated her for that, so now she's harnessing the fruit of the actually marginalized hate
Obviously, we all want to better society, but just understand that betterment in different ways
But yeah those bourgeois rebels who say "defend the police" and make their whole identity about being marginalized are hilarious i get that
Also, as a leftist, she is completely correct on the left being very polarized
But i completely understand the radical attitude after living with workers for whom inequality was everyday hell, the ressentiment just might not be correctly sublimated
What do you think?
Also, thoughts on modern liberalism in the metrics of privilege? I only ever meet privileged liberals now, theoretical classical liberalism seems to have been completely turned on its head. Or are they mostly just genuine genetic autists?
Can classical liberalism still be treated as fully naive considering the benefits that it gave us? Given the irresponsibility of unbound growth
Cowboy · 2024-03-23 17:57
miles w mathis
I know he's getting older, maybe his best days are behind him, but he's pretty healthy and still sharp. only risk is that he just burns out on the whole thing, I think he's already showing some signs of doing so.
Chani · 2024-03-24 10:10
>>78971
isn't he a devout pseudo
Lady Jessica · 2024-03-24 10:37
>>78950
> dawn of Zizek into his reactionary dementia
Eeeh? Since when? And what does that even mean?
Also,
>Vausch, Destiny, Hasan
were never real options. Watch Infrared and Yugopnik. And when in doubt, just go back to basics: Saint-Simon and Charles Fourier.
Rikitikitavi · 2024-03-25 09:55
>>79000
Loved Haz's interview with Tutt, very based.
"were never real options" for you. not for the kid next door who doesn't have money for education and wants to get into politics.
Morpheus · 2024-03-25 10:16
>>78999
idk what you mean by that mister 78999 but that is a lovely number isnt it.
mathis is pretty devoted to his cause from what I can tell and is pretty much a leftist liberal type. He also paints so thats cool.
Drifter · 2024-03-25 12:21
>>79035
I stand corrected. But even then, they are not options for those kind of people in the long-run, because what usually happens is that these people end up sort of commodifying these streamers due to their high entertainment value, which in turn makes them into content-providers to which people tune in and out in order to consume info (or just to witness the latest spectacle), not necessarily to become informed. To use a classic SEL-themed term to fittingly describe it, we could probably say that they turn the content into "infornography" and think that that's the endpoint to their education, when in reality it's just the start, and as such can not serve as a theoretical basis for political action, which is the ideal, ultimate educational destination.
Chan Siu Ming · 2024-03-26 09:48
HASAAAAN!! FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN! IN THE RING! IN REAL LIFE! AND DEMONSTRATE THAT YOUR VIEWS BASED ON MIGHT MAKES RIGHT AREN'T BUNK!!
t. candy man
Frank Garza · 2024-03-26 14:48
The future of the left is disturbing. Negri is gone, Chomsky won't be around long, neither will Zizek. Who are the future leaders of the left? Meme brained internet leftoids like Vaush, Hasan etc. I'm not even a leftie but this is just sad. I like guys like Daniel Tutt. He's level headed, not a maniac, and a good spokesman for his cause, but I don't see him getting too much attention. Who knows? Future looks bleak.
>what are your opinions on the aforementioned figures? Other ones? Do you think Ana Kasparian is legit?
Leftism has become an elitist subculture and guys like Hasan are poseurs. As for Ana, she's a political commentator. She's not a reporter or an intellectual of any real note. She's just reading the news and giving your her opinion. One of the reasons the culture wars and online life is so bad is because people rely on pundits and commentators to digest the information for them and we're only ever receiving third hand info that's always presented in a heavily biased way or designed to push a partisan narrative.
>Also, thoughts on modern liberalism in the metrics of privilege?
Privilege soykaf is just secularized original sin. Liberals created their own definitions of "hate speech" or whatever and use it to bludgeon people who disagree with them or wield paternalistic powers over the lower classes or control their employees. Fanon predicted this years ago. Privilege oppression olympics is just narcissism.
Cereal Killer · 2024-03-27 08:00
>>79071
thanks for the response, this was enough for me to dm Tutt for a collaborative attempt from the face of the startup that started theorygram and get him to get on organizing readings (@k1llercatred tg contact)
ur not the first person saying this and i also had that intuition
William Holtzer · 2024-03-27 15:32
>>79071
surprisingly, tutt has positively responded and said they want to take part, i am now looking for a decentralized platform where a safe haven for these conversations for people including the ones from semi-totalitarian right countries can be hosted.
Mumble do the trick?
skill issue leads to legal issue
Special Agent Bob · 2024-03-27 17:54
>>79101
Sounds good. Nice to see Tutt being proactive with the wired. What about a forum or a chan? idk about mumble.
Ivan Horvat · 2024-03-28 03:17
>>79105
unfortunately dont know how to use chans, if the admin of lainchan reaches out to me and wants to get involved in the context of all these increasing raids, would be much appreciated
if there's no alternative i will start with mumble but im very much hoping that someone with a tech head replies to this thread coz dont want legal issues.
Neo · 2024-04-02 07:25
>>79105
yeah btw, also looking for contacts of President Sunday to invite him in. lains, some of you here hack, if you can drop it here, would you