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I can't stop thinking about the fact that one day I and my mother will die one day.

angel · 2024-02-03 15:23
Last night I had a mental break down before I went to sleep, my dog died right after my birthday (which was also super close to Christmas) and I was thinking about her. I then started thinking about how much I love my cat and how I would be so heartbroken if he passed, and it finally came to me that he actually will die one day and that I'm gonna have to deal with that grief in the future. I questioned "why did even adopt my pets if they're gonna go away at some point?" that made me think about my mother, I love my mom so much and she's been with me through everything. Now I've been wondering why I was even born if I and everything I love is going to die in the end, I know it's probably stupid and I know I should have started thinking about soykaf like this way sooner but I'm already so mentally fragile at this point that I just need help to stop thinking about it. Weed isn't working and neither is my anti-anxiety medication, help me if you could anons.
Faye Valentine · 2024-02-03 15:50
i think about this a lot lainanon. two of my dogs died in the same year and it really fuarrrking ruined me. but it made me realize that if they didnt die, i wouldnt be so grateful for my one dog that i still have with me. the reason to adopt them is to give them a good life and enjoy the remaining time you have with them. yea this sounds like a bunch of surface level therapy soykaf but it helped me get over it. just remind yourself to never take your loved ones for granted, so when they leave you won’t have the regret of not appreciating them. hope it gets better man
Faye Valentine · 2024-02-03 16:19
>>77399 At least feel comfortable in giving them a good life before they died, we'll all die someday but the important thing is whether or not we enjoyed our lives beforehand and hopefully you gave them a life worth living.
Vasya Pupkin · 2024-02-03 16:55
>>77399 My answer depends on whether or not you're religious. If you are then good luck solving your problems yourself. If you aren't just like me then there's almost no hope left for you. You can either accept your mortality and live a "normal" life (lie to yourself) or become a life extension freak just like me. Some options for you: 1. research aging 2. become rich and fund aging research 3. preserve your body using cryonics before/after death These guys can freeze you: https://www.alcor.org/ You can pay for that with your life insurance. This post may be too autistic, I had a 3 year break from lainchan.
Six · 2024-02-03 17:05
Had this somewhere when i was ~10 at night. Here's how i reasoned dead away as a problem: Life is change. So even if you make people immortal they wouldn't be the same person forever since your personality is defined by your memories and you always learn&forget changing how you act. So whatever you are now exists only in the now regardless of how long your lifespan is. Its visible even within our lifespans. You resemble the kid you were at age 5 but you aren't the same person and 20 years later you will be likewise only similar but not identical to the current you. If you value the now then just make the best out of it because every moment is fleeting. You cant go back acting like 5 and you cant go back to your current life in a decade. The only move is really to appreciate what you have. This overall just made me a lot nicer to my parents.
William Holtzer · 2024-02-03 17:17
You're gonna die whether you fear death or not, the only thing you can control is your reaction up until that point. If you want to piddle your life away in fear, that's your prerogative. If you don't die young you're gonna see people in your life die, and there's nothing you can do to prepare for it, they'll just die out of nowhere, as if they died out of somewhere, sometimes they can, but when they do it's almost always a horrific death. You'll overcome the grief probably, most people do. This isn't even worthy of a thread, you'll move past this thought unless you're a pussy. You should've just waited until it passed.
Project 2501 · 2024-02-03 18:09
>>77399 When I was young I had fond feelings for many animals (I kept mice chickens and fish on top of cats and dogs and there was a lot of wildlife in close proximity), and they all died. Hit by cars, killed by predators, cancer, unknown disease, miscellaneous accident, old age. At some point after crying over dozens if not hundreds of deaths I stopped feeling very much about it. See stiffened carcass, well soykaf, where's the shovel? But I think that ultimately this is weakness. An inability to contend with the overwhelming reality of every life being precious in a world that is a meat grinder from which nothing can be saved. What is a fitting rebuttal to that, if not grief? Think about the logic of what you're saying: "why bother if it will end?" This does follow, if the premise is that grief is the enemy. To not grieve, it must not matter. But think about it the other way around; it must matter, so you must grieve. If we are to choose life, it has to be that way around. My advice is to recognize the value of your grief and not look at it as an obstacle to throw away, but rather hold on to it as well as you can and make it a part of yourself that you can be ok living with.
angel · 2024-02-03 18:20
op here, thank you all for your responses! >>77407 helped me find purpose in my grief, >>77405 helped me realize I shouldn't fear death but to try and just embrace it at this point, >>77403 made me realize I need to accept the fact that I can't fix what happened to me when I was younger and that I will forever be changing, and >>77400 made me feel like I'm not alone. Thank you all, I didn't really think others would understand this but that's probably because I'm super isolated kek
Erik Johansson · 2024-02-06 01:54
>>77399 Death is the ultimate truth. Accept it and live your life to the fullest. That's all we can do.
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2024-02-06 02:18
>>77399 Think about it forever till you accept it gracefully. Seriously, you know that’s what is meant for everyone in the end anyway.
Boris Grishenko · 2024-02-06 02:18
Death is scary as hell. I had a string of panic attacks about it that crippled me for a few months. It's still hard to think about it, and really the best thing you can do is not think about it and think about 'living' instead (cringe I know). After staring death in the eye like that I've overcome a lot of obstacles in my life because there's no way I'm wasting it. Something that seems to comfort me is the thought that whatever happens to me when I die will be the same thing that happened to Scott Walker. Not sure why.
Koos van der Merwe · 2024-02-06 14:16
>>77399 I feel you my 20 year old cat died literally a few days before my birthday in winter 2023 and I also love and live with my mum who is the only person who’s been there through it all. It’s really really hard I’m still having nightmares even 3 months later about it. I don’t know when it gets better but I know that it does. The only way forward anon is to live your best life, appreciate your mum, appreciate yourself. And when the time is right open your heart to a new friend who needs a home. It’s not pointless, life is hard and death is hard, but life is worth living and it’s worth sharing with the one’s we love. I am some kind of buddhist so that helps me too I think. Religion isn’t all bad, I don’t know how athiests cope with death honestly.
Knuckles Joe · 2024-02-06 17:32
I have exactly the same feeling, Lainon I live with some pets too, mainly because my mother really loves animals (even though she suffers the most when they die). Personally, I don't feel the need to have an animal companion, especially those who live much less than me, of course I loved and love all my dogs, but that's because I grew up with them and learned to like them. But If i could choose not pass for the suffering of losing them, surely i would, even knowing experiencing those shattering feelings made my heart a little stronger.
Jane Doe · 2024-02-07 00:49
I don't like to preach but here's a little story that can have some answers to your questions OP. When it comes to death I usually think about my grandpa who passed a few years ago in his sleep. At that point I was probably the closest person to him. Grandma passed away about a decade before and he didn't really have any other people close to him (dad was pretty bitter about him so they weren't super close). After she passed he was in shock for a while but then moved in to live with us at our house and took a huge interest in gardening. That went on for a few years before we bought him his own flat not too far. He still came regularly for a while but then stopped. Eventually he stopped coming out of the flat almost completely and would just read detective novels and watch TV. By that time I was living in a nearby city in university. Dad brought him food once a week but I later found out that he didn't eat that much and so most of it would spoil and just stay there in the fridge or the pantry, festering with mold. No one except me seemed to care so I cleaned it all up and told dad to stop bringing so much food and try to care a bit more. Then his health and memory started to slowly go but he didn't seem to care that much. Eventually he passed in his sleep and was found a week later by dad because neighbours started to complain about the smell. He was also present while grandma died from a third stroke and grandpa also had a heart attack about 25 years before (he really changed his lifestyle after that and became more healthy). It was pretty obvious that at some point he just didn't really care whether he would wake up the next day or not. PS Ironically many years before my grandpa was the one who brought food to my great grandma and his mother-in-law when she was in a similar situation. That parallel seemed to depress him I suppose. "He was a very dutiful man who didn't complain" was said at the funeral (not exactly but I was pretty emotional so I don't really remember what I and everyone else said at the time). Really makes me think that for many people there is a sense of finality and release in death and I don't dare take it away from them just because I care so much about them. So if they die peacefully and content I think I can accept it. Then again, a lot of my relatives that I loved a lot died during my 25 years of life so maybe I'm just more used to it.
EMLR · 2024-02-07 20:42
Contribute both to reaching AGI and directing it to find treatments for life extension in humans. You were born just in time.