The absolute meaning of life

It's a very cliche question, but what do you think is the meaning of life? Or rather, is there a meaning to living? I've been thinking about it for a while, but I haven't found a definite answer. The answers I've found are high probability answers, but what if I fail? Then I lose that meaning and life has no meaning for me. If I cannot find meaning, then why should I exist? Maybe I won't exist at all, but my body will wander aimlessly and start causing difficulties to people who have a purpose. At this point I feel I have to end my life. I want to have a purpose and I want my soul to exist. >"do things that make you feel like you." Is it really true to take that as a life purpose?

>>76189 The meaning is decided by you. It doesn't even matter if you believe in an objective meaning to life, you still had to decide for yourself that it was the truth to you. To me, everything is subjective and there really is no meaning to life aside what you as an individual decide. If you feel the need, you can find some meaning in organized religion. that should ease your soul, it seems like you need that since you're already pondering suicide. To me the most pure, popular religion would be Christianity, but I've fallen out of it because of several issues I couldn't reconcile like the gnostics, Gospel of Judas, the persecution and killing of gnostics by the Catholic Church, supposed early Christian belief in reincarnation. It makes me feel that whatever Bible we have now is heavily altered, and if it's been altered how am I supposed to truly follow the religion? Of course nobody I asked could ever answer my questions because 99.99% of Christians don't even ask them. I'm not gonna take some excuse like "the devil put it there to trick you" as a reason for that information. The Catholic Church is like the Grand Inquisitor. I have never seen anybody answer a question like yours. I expect that you won't get many answers differing from mine. Anyway, basically I think it is for you to decide, so you better toughen up and learn how to deal with that. At a base level I wouldn't consider doing things that make you feel like "you" to be great. For a normal person it's totally fine, you shouldn't do soul crushing soykaf you hate. But what if you have some psychopathic rapist murderer pedophilic urges? I guess it's still fine, since you can decide morality for yourself. My thoughts on the morality of what I consider to be heinous is meaningless to such people.

>>76189 >Is it really true to take that as a life purpose? If doing so will make you feel like you then yes.

try to seriously listen to christian apologetics. i really like the youtube channel daily dose of wisdom.

>>76189 the meaning of life is to increase energy production.

why do you explore in a video game? life is the ultimate game, after all, its the prequel to all video games. growing neurofibres and experiencing things, growing, changing etc. if that sounds boring then "knock" your head (spiritually) until you can or kill yourself. and your theory of aimless wandering is already true, youa re living it if you are not a big liar.

>>76189 I think the universe is stranger and more complex than the idea of "meaning" that our minds try and project onto it. It is just a useful thought-tool that we have developed as a cope for the finite nature of our lives. Ideally, our purpose is what motivates us to serve others. Children and death exist as a means to outpace disease. Each of us will die and eventually be forgotten. Individuals quickly expire after being born. Try and help the next guys out- they are your only real future.

There's not one "life" to have a meaning. The universe exists, you exist and I also exist. You have a purpose and I also have one. But you're you and I'm me so your purpose isn't my purpose and mine isn't yours. A racehorse's purpose is to race, a workhorse's is to work. Once I realized this it only took me about a year to figure mine out. You have a purpose, fuarrrk if I know what it is. You'll figure it out though.

Is there a need for meaning to life? If life has meaning that doesnt align with what is desired, then what?

>>76199 This. The meaning of life is God and Jesus Christ is risen from the dead. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 "Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him and by his wounds we are healed." Isaiah 53:4-5 (prophecy written before Jesus came in flesh). >>76193 >It makes me feel that whatever Bible we have now is heavily altered The gospels and true teachings are of apostolic origin, the ones that aren't are either not canon or forgeries. The early Church decided if things were true or not based on whether the one claiming to have the truth had a succession from the apostles. To quote the martyr St. Irenaeus of Lyon (130-202 AD, was a student of the martyr St. Polycarp, a disciple of st. John the apostle): "It is within the power of all, therefore, in every Church, who may wish to see the truth, to contemplate clearly the tradition of the apostles manifested throughout the whole world; and we are in a position to reckon up those who were by the apostles instituted bishops in the Churches, and [to demonstrate] the succession of these men to our own times; those who neither taught nor knew of anything like what these [heretics] rave about. For if the apostles had known hidden mysteries, which they were in the habit of imparting to "the perfect" apart and privily from the rest, they would have delivered them especially to those to whom they were also committing the Churches themselves. For they were desirous that these men should be very perfect and blameless in all things, whom also they were leaving behind as their successors, delivering up their own place of government to these men; which men, if they discharged their functions honestly, would be a great boon [to the Church], but if they should fall away, the direst calamity. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority [potiorem principalitatem]." Against Heresies (Book III, Chapter 3), circa 180 AD. The idea that the apostles left successors goes back to the first century: "Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry." St. Clement of Rome, 1st Clement, chapter 44, circa 68 AD or 96 AD (dating on this one varies, but it's from the 1st century). St. Ignatius of Antioch (martyr that died in the early second century, a disciple of St. John) went as far as to say that you can't do anything without being subject to a bishop: "See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful without the bishop either to baptize or to celebrate a love-feast; but whatsoever he shall approve of, that is also pleasing to God, so that everything that is done may be secure and valid. " The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans, chapter 8. And if you want to know what doctrines the early Christians believed, you should look for what the church Fathers universally believed. If something was preached always, everywhere and by all, then it's pretty reasonable to infer that it's an apostolic teaching. "Grant, then, that all have erred; that the apostle was mistaken in giving his testimony; that the Holy Ghost had no such respect to any one (church) as to lead it into truth, although sent with this view by Christ, John 14:26 and for this asked of the Father that He might be the teacher of truth; John 15:26 grant, also, that He, the Steward of God, the Vicar of Christ, neglected His office, permitting the churches for a time to understand differently, (and) to believe differently, what He Himself was preaching by the apostles — is it likely that so many churches, and they so great, should have gone astray into one and the same faith? No casualty distributed among many men issues in one and the same result. Error of doctrine in the churches must necessarily have produced various issues. When, however, that which is deposited among many is found to be one and the same, it is not the result of error, but of tradition. Can any one, then, be reckless enough to say that they were in error who handed on the tradition?" Tertullian of Carthage (c. 155-220 AD), Prescription against Heretics, chapter 28.

The concept of meaning is incoherent. I prefer there to not be meaning because it removes pressure and facilitates free action. it seems like a cultural power-grab psyop to push people to persist in suffering for an illusory greater purpose beyond reality