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What is the material explanation for most people I see just being incapable of recognizing or continuing basic patterns? It's aggravating. Imagine we've got some files on a shared drive at a workplace, and it has these files: >2023-06-23 Weekly Report.xlsx >2023-06-30 Weekly Report.xlsx >2023-07-07 Weekly Report.xlsx What do you name the next one? Don't worry, my coworker has it figured out! >weekly report 08 14 23.xlsx I've even had these columns in an extremely important spreadsheet [CAD means Canadian dollars]: >Cost for 2017 (CAD) >Cost for 2018 (USD) >Cost for 2019 (USD/CAD) Most didn't have any units given for the last column, by the way. And some services having the same number for each column. It's just basic kaf like this, constantly. And it's clearly not some esoteric industrial sabotage. These people are mostly university graduates, not that it matters because school doesn't teach basic concepts like extrapolating a very obvious pattern.

Nothing to do with pattern recognition. It is questioning the previous methods and trying to be more efficient. There is competing date order systems. USD is easier to find info on compared to CAD assuming this is a conversion not local to Canada.

The reason people lack basic cognition and pattern skills is because they are stupid. The reason why they are stupid is because thats what survives. Stupid people have more kids than smart people. Living organisms that survive and reproduce, survive and reproduce. Traits that increase the chances of a human reproducing generally don't include high levels of pattern recognition and abstraction. What is selected for instead is social conformity, extroversion, and emotionalism. Hence what you see all around you. The people with these traits are given a name called normal people. TLDR because of natural selection people being stupid is selected for.

>>76043 >What is selected for instead is social conformity, extroversion, and emotionalism Why are we here then huh

>>76043 Don’t listen to this guy. He’s got saying some of the most retarded soykaf I’ve ever seen. High levels of abstraction and pattern recognition are what humans are literally known for. It’s why we survived! Ancient people survived by going “huh this place has more food let’s try here more” or “this person looks like my friends so they must be like them” not because they were stupid. OP’s problem is just people trying to use different standards to make things more efficient OR just not checking that closely. But overall people aren’t stupid. You’re not smarter than average buddy, you’re just more autistic.

>>76043 Strongly disagree. Stupid does not survive. Pattern recognition is/was a crucial element in humanity's evolution. You're going to have to face up to the reality that humanity is now being artificially selected to be stupid and compliant like cattle. There is nothing natural about it at all.

all this and yet what OP is complaining about is clearly someone not matching an easy pattern and instead being stupid and disruptive. Exactly why this co-'work'-er is like this I do not know, but its clearly a needless disruption of efficient work. Unacceptable! Confront the fellow about this! Impress upon him the importance of consistent names and diligent obedience to procedure, especially in data entry. If this fails to lead to a correction in his future behavior, do what you can to have him removed. As to speculate on why he might be like this, beyond that he's an idiot, either poorly trained or of bad stock, I do not know, but likely a combination of the two. If you have power over him, perhaps you can train him, or remove if he proves untrainable.

>>76051 I had a psychology professor digress during a class once (well, he did this quite often since the course was admittedly very boring) about counseling a couple who were having difficulty having a child. It turned out that they were indeed engaging in anal intercourse instead of vaginal intercourse. Funny. I think the lesson was about intelligence/stupidity and the ability to learn and/or intuit. The entire class I kept wondering to myself why did he help these people? My point here is that when people are so stupid that they can't figure out what hole to stick it in, they're getting help from outside forces. Stupidity is a genetic dead-end.

>>76050 >>76051 Clearly >>76043 meant that intelligence is no longer necessary to survive this nightmare world and is effectively detrimental in a lot of situations, not that it was never useful in the past. Additionally the government is deliberately removing traits of intelligence through poisonous water food medicine and education in addition to dysgenics/eugenics. Apathy is also highly encouraged. Even if people could do better they see no reason to.

>>76040 did you ever consider that some people don't give a fuarrrk about what you care about? this example is like kicking dead whales down the beach.

They just don't care. They will do the bare minimum because zest for life is sucked out from them. Blame it on their parents, blame it on the "spoiled generation", blame it on the goyslop and chemtrails, blame it on the cycle of humanity going into rebirth and death, blame it on Godlessness of these times, blame it on whatever you want. The fact of the matter is that 80% of the people are cannon fodder and just here to pass the time. Their lives are spiteful because "they never asked to be born" (whatever that means, as if you can ask a still-to-be-born person if they want to be born or not) but in all actuality they just don't realize that they will die one day and that they have to make the most of it while they still can, they will have that realization when they're on deaths door. ==Some people die at 25 and aren't buried until they are 70 == - Benjamin Franklin

>>76050 Exactly. People are so good at pattern finding they see and hear things that aren't even there because it's just close enough to recognize. This can go to an extreme in mental illnesses like when someone is delusional that is the result of excessive pattern finding and falsely seeing those patterns as significant in meaning.

>>76053 For one to know is not a state you have innately. One can only acquire it through other means than one's self.

>>76059 Clearly. The ability to learn is a function of intelligence, and the best external assessment of it. This is why psychology conducts so many experiments on the ability to learn and the ease at which they do. A lot of these tests are for children because they have simpler motivations. OP's co-workers may not be stupid, but may have any number of reasons they don't want to do their jobs. Who knows?

>>76066 I feel like the mystery in OPs case is not that its like they're doing less work, they're spending just as much effort to do something wrong as they would to do it right. interest in kids also relates to other tendencies among the psychological profession, though they have also less biases perhaps, and we'd assume less cultural trainings so more effective a window into the blank slate of various types of human.

>>76040 Besides unleashing a swarm of mind control nanobots to go into everyone's brains and make you god emperor of humanity, there are a couple things you could do: 1) write up a style guide detailing things like dates (yyyy-mm-dd) and pitch it to your boss. Focus on three main points im your pitch: a) how long is it gonna take? b) how much is it gonna cost? c) how much money are they gonna make? 2) quietly fix it yourself. Just let that be one more reason why they cant fire you.

>>76059 I think some people actually haven't realized that having a subjective sensation of knowing something doesn't necessarily imply actual knowledge or clear understanding

>>76057 seconding this I would suggest op to learn the pattern of how people around him operate and adapt himself to work best with them and not expect them to suddenly become smart and follow his arbitrary rules. or at least that what i did in a similar situation when people weren't able to perform the bare minimum...

>>76074 I hate how oddly i have to write to get past the filter. What was meant is all that which is in your mind requires an interaction with the outside world. Sentience only exists in moving beings for a reason which us interacting with the world either through their own body or observation or being educated in some way. The info is sometimes wrong but it still had to come from somewhere so it isnt always stupidity as to why someone does stupid things but them making wrong conclusions based on bad info or lack of info needed.

>>76050 >But overall people aren’t stupid. Eh, overall people are mechanically capable of not being stupid. Unfortunately, the nurture side of learning has a lot of things that need fixing, especially in many cultures and countries' education systems. >OP’s problem is just people trying to use different standards to make things more efficient OR just not checking that closely. If it really is just an attempt at improved efficiency, like you / >>76042 suggest, it's just creating two conflicting systems in the one place, and showing a serious issue with communication or coordination. I can understand joe citizen not realizing that the date format allows alphabetical order on a filesystem, sure, but even so they're just blatantly making it harder for a person to find the right file for a given week, seeing as there are two different naming schemes. I can only see it justified as extreme carelessness or apathy, which honestly is somewhat understandable in a boring job, but ultimately just makes the experience even worse. See >>76067

OP here. To clarify we did fix up the dates issue (explaining to the co-worker why the format was important) and I did raise the issues of the spreadsheet to the owner and three of us started trying to fix all its various issues, but I believe all three of us were moved or left the role before the main work on it was done so I don't know if it ever did get fixed. > << what company do you work for? > >> a major one.

>>76040 In your specific examples, I would expect it to be less a case of someone lacking basic pattern recognition and more a case of someone not being invested in their job because editing spreadsheets is mind-numbingly boring (in most cases).

>>76084 >its mindnumbingly boring unfortunately yes. When I did spreadsheets / data entry I came up with tricks to try and make it a little more fun and like a game, but at the end of the day it was entering large amounts of very similar data in tables, its tiresome and boring. Somewhat useful, but only when a lot of it has been done, and importantly done well. People who can't do it to a reasonable quality just shouldn't be given control of these things. Fixing one persons lazy errors is often a lot more effort than doing it right the first time. These examples aren't the worst (imagine if he switched the date format instead lol), but its bad and it would be so easy to just do it right. Arbitrary format is arbitrary, but you have to keep to it. One trick I had is just to replace common strings with symbols: xxj meaning 'Weekly Report' or something like that, in this case. 'xxj' will never show up in normal usage so you can afterwards go swap it out to be correct later automatically. >>76057 I asked to be born.

It's even just people online who can't learn how to put their posts in the right room or the right board. People who have been on internet forums and chatrooms for years and years, there is no chance of naivety, just going into clearly the wrong room instead of clearly the right room, and doing it again a week later.

>>76054 >Apathy is also highly encouraged. >Even if people could do better they see no reason to. This is the main reason, I think, OP. People just don't have a strong incentive to use their brains, so they don't.

>>76059 Only if you're an NPC. If you're a divine spark you have innate knowledge from many lifetimes and greater access to the Akashic records. Not accessing this wisdom is a conditioned behavior, rather than the inverse.

>>76559 the divine knowledge in question being that buttsex ≠ babysex

>Some people die at 25 and aren't buried until they are 70 for some reason i don't like such smug citations

>>76609 You might be looking for the word "platitude": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platitude >A platitude is even worse than a cliché. It’s a sanctimonious cliché, a statement that is not only old and overused but often moralistic and imperious. ... [P]latitudes have an aphoristic quality, they seem like timeless moral lessons. They therefore shape our view of the world, and can lull us into accepting things that are actually false and foolish. Or possibly "bromide"

http://enxx3byspwsdo446jujc52ucy2pf5urdbhqw3kbsfhlfjwmbpj5smdad.onion/Thebrain/

>>76040 >extrapolating a very obvious pattern. That's called thinking. And yes, schools don't teach how to think but what to think; garbage in, garbage out. You're living with human calculators. >>76043 Yeah it's the -- keep it simple stupid -- and that's quite efficient. You trade quality for quantity, but then you produce only the next batch of ''homoserfus pseudosapiens''. Mind you there's definitely a point to be made that we're being purposely subjected to dysgenics. There are plenty of smart people but the innate formulation of corporate hierarchies is more slanted towards mutual coherence and acceptance of minimal skills in some activities, while in other the high achievers with a borderline psychopathic behavior will go up up up the hierarchy faster than a rocket.