Ways for dealing with this dire existence of mine

Ok, so, I guess you all know the subject. I have to mention right away that I have social aspect in my life - a couple of good friends, some coworkers and I'm in good relations with my relatives. I don't have (and never had) a girlfriend and I do stress about it here and there though. As many users of this board I have had (and still have, but rarely) episodes of isolation and loneliness. This stuff is bearable, especially if I have work to do (housekeeping, study or daily job), but exactly when this work is over I often realize - what will I do now? I don't have anything to do, hobby is not there either, often because it is as draining as other work. So, this is how I dealt with loneliness - I have had more work to do. So, in face of those circumstances I decided to do strolling around the city. They said that physical activity is good for mental health, and they were (and are) right. This helped, I guess this still helping, but as you might guess, the effectiveness of wandering is gone. I have started to grew more tired than relieved while walking. Also, loneliness never settled, it was bearable some time when I started walking, but the problem was there. Now the interesting part - for some time now (after my exams, about two months) I don't feel anything in particular. It is if I completely drowned in loneliness and got such high fatigue that I don't care truly about things anymore. I am still capable to work though. I know this is ordinary depression and maybe chronical fatigue (don't know the right term), but the question is - what shall I do about it? Ok, the fatigue part is obvious - less stress and work, more rest. I am and certainly will stick to it. But the bigger problem is the former - I can't simply "rest" because then I feel dull, lonely, uncomfortable and somethat pathetic? So the question is - how to deal with loneliness in a way that isn't tiresome for psyche or body?

you say you walk, walking is generally not terribly strenuous. Perhaps you should try walking longer, or harder. Find tricks to make it more engaging and difficult, either by carrying a load or walking silently, or both. Try to improve your speed as well. You could also look into other excercises. Don't try to rest, you can rest when you're dead.

>I know this is ordinary depression and maybe chronical fatigue (don't know the right term), but the question is - what shall I do about it? Listen carefully, from someone who's been there (down to exercise "not working" anymore - it started to give me manic episodes) and had it cost him. The true problem is simply stated: You have a problem of energy production. Your body is not able to extract energy from its inputs. This can be caused in turn by a few different things in concert: 1. You have damaged mitochondria. These may be repaired in time with the appropriate nutrients. 2. Your diet does not contain bioavailable energy and nutrients. You should, as such avoid grains, seed oils, vegetables, and most seasonings totally. Prioritize the consumption of meats, dairy products, eggs, and fruits/fruit juices. If you find that you do not do well with fruit juice, reduce it, but animal products are nonnegotiable. This may increase your food costs but it's cheaper than therapy, prozac, and being ill generally. In summary, try to maintain the diet of a 16th century Italian nobleman. Minus the bread, because modern bread is not their bread. 3. You have a stressful environment. We all do. Do what you can to de-stress, but do not neglect the other side of things: becoming resistant to stress. My dietary recommendations, distilled from Dr. Ray Peat (raypeat.com) and others, will move you there. The way in which you describe exercise no longer working tells me that you are running on stress hormones as it is. Some crabs in the bucket will inevitably show up to tell me that I'm a quack for believing that inputs influence outputs. You've heard all the standard bullshit about depression, doubtless. Here's something you haven't heard before. Human beings are made functional. It's true that you have a real disease. It's also true that your disease is not "real" in the sense that it is inborn -- it is a product of your environment. >So the question is - how to deal with loneliness in a way that isn't tiresome for psyche or body? I've also very much been there. I used to be in a position where I could do little but watch videos, play games, and have spastic bursts of only impotent creativity. I humbly submit that you have it kind of backwards. The correct methods of utilizing loneliness, or dealing with loneliness, are generative creativity. Programming, writing, making art. But these are indeed tiring to the tired person. Increase your supply of energy so as to engage with life as it is, not how it fits into your computer monitor. In the meantime, I give you license to lounge around.

>>73489 >Minus the bread some places, bread is a lot better than other bread. But bad bread should be avoided for sure. You could also make the same claim about normal personmilk, pasteurized and homogenized and rather alien, though I think its likely such noblemen didn't much partake of milk directly.

>>73490 >>73482 You are correct, but I have personally found that I tolerate even the slavemilk you describe relatively well when my metabolism and energy production are high. On the contrary, when my metabolism was low, slavemilk products would reliably give me downright /attacks/ of psoriasis (a sign of an immune reaction), suicidal thoughts, and facial flushing. Pasteurization produces cellular waste which is inflammatory to the body. Homogenization, in reducing fat particles to a drastically smaller size, has a similar effect. Local laws may sometimes permit the sale of raw cheeses, butters, but not raw milk. Raw cheeses are a generally tolerable way to get calcium and some fat soluble vitamins, like K2. The nobleman point is illustrative: bootstrapping the mentally ill and fatigued through application of scientific, mentalistic principles is obviously frictional. It is a simple heuristic, which necessarily compresses the full truth so as to produce a useful artifact at a lower mental cost.

>>73491 >raw milk is always illegal false, but frequently yes, it depends on region. worth looking into where you are. some places its available as pet food. Where I live there are a few places that sell it legally for human consumption.

>>73486 Sorry, this is just lame, I won't bite

Sorry for late reply >>73489 May I ask you why italian noble diet in particular? I got the main idea and looked a little into the link you got, so if I understand correctly, the point is to get highly available energy from appropriate food, right? And if I understand the principles of diet building, one of the main aspects is genotype/phenotype predisposition on some kinds of food, milk for example. So, if I'm not a Mediterranean myself, I won't get much benefit of such diet.

>>73524 You're being a bit autistic about it. That was an illustrative example. Just apply the principles of ray peat and you should see improvement. No seed oils, avoid grains, nuts. Eat things that are easy to digest.