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Trinity · 2018-04-23 11:38
How to be more cold and resolute in contants with another people? I feel im too weak in communication and everyone think can fuarrrk me in ass and use for own goals. I feel like low human tier. I want to exploit people and destroy theyr lives if they dont do what i want. and i know how its look like, but if you are polite you lose. Thats how life works.
John Titor · 2018-04-23 14:02
It's not about whether you're polite or not, it's about who you're polite to. If the people you are nice to don't reciprocate, stop associating with them.
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2018-04-23 14:50
>I want to exploit people and destroy theyr lives if they dont do what i want. why
John Titor · 2018-04-23 17:36
>>6950 He explained why, can't you read?
Tyrell Wellick · 2018-04-23 17:46
>>6952 His explanation is weak, his conclusion doesn't follow from his premises.
Cereal Killer · 2018-04-23 18:27
>>6953 >I'm bad at interacting with people >So people exploit me >So being exploited is not nice >So I want to know how to exploit people back Obviously English isn't OP's first language but the contents is logically consistent.
Jane Doe · 2018-04-23 19:38
>>6953 >people exploit those who are weak >exploit or get exploited, no other alternative >would rather exploit than be exploited are you seriously this brain deficient?
Bob Arctor · 2018-04-23 20:27
>>6956 >are you seriously this brain deficient? Everyone is brain deficient when you project your brain deficient strawman onto them. Wanting to hurt people in the same way they hurt you is a natural human reaction to injustice. It might be more healthy to think about it another way though, how can I become better at dealing with people so when I encounter bad people who try to exploit me I can gain from the situation instead of losing or running away? What is the alternative exactly? Only talk to nice people? Good luck with that.
H.R. Giger · 2018-04-23 20:29
As a first suggestion, Jordan Petersons 12 rules for life become better in dealing with yourself first
Anonymous · 2018-04-23 20:32
>>6958 Should have also mentioned that he talks about a wide variety of topics in explaining each rule. Several of those go into dominance hierarchies and other extremely relevant topics.
Hitomi · 2018-04-23 20:36
Your insecurity and anxiety over your lack of control over other people is what makes you weak. The problems of your conflict are causes by even having the conflict in the first place. If you have repeatedly been manipulated, you aren't seeing things correctly. Nobody probably is intending to manipulate you or even realize they are doing it. I have "manipulated" people without having some kind of master plan or ill intentions, rather they just happened to stick around and give me things in spite of me showing not much love back beyond being with them sometimes. They only felt manipulated when I finally got irritated and left them. Ive frequently been on the other side of this as well, and this made me realize that its a mutual thing most of the time not one person "manipulating". People let themselves be manipulated 80% of the time. If you feel low you are low, if you feel high your high. If even when you convince yourself you are great and confident and strong you still are unable to effectively manipulate people thats not for you to do. how can you control others lives when you clearly can't even control your own. If you could you wouldn't be manipulated and wouldn't feel it was necessary to do so to have control. Feelings and states of being come before the accompanying thoughts. You could read some books on social manipulation, one of my friends does. Because hes just following instructions I can see straight through it, im a very feely perceptive person and I don't put much weight to what people say and I put a lot on what I think they are really saying. This is as bad as it is good, but on that good side is I see straight through above tactics. Many dont though apparently, as its started working for him and hes been making lots of friends.
Ender · 2018-04-23 21:00
>>6947 >I want to exploit people and destroy theyr lives if they dont do what i want. Now you are just being edgy. Revenge is risky and you stand nothing to gain from it. Spoiler alert: if people are inconvenienced by you they will not be eager to do you any favours, they might even get stubborn and go out of the way to harm you, even if they end up shooting themselves in the foot while doing it. Even if you think you can get away with your petty revenge without getting caught, people who are annoyed or bothered will not be eager to go out of their way to help other people, which ends up being a problem for you. >How to be more cold and resolute in contants with another people? Start by giving up on silly things like revenge and dividing people into tiers, these things will only hold you back. Another good starting point is the article "Victor Lustig and the importance of the Newspaper" by Nick (Lainzine #3). TL;DR: be less edgy, be less spooked, and work on getting people to like you.
Chani · 2018-04-23 21:08
>>6957 >isolationist approach is bad >I know, I will be just offensive at best Nah, it isn't projection, it is a conclusion fam Hell, even a book wrote by the sand people some 3000 years ago had better suggestions about how to have human affairs ever read the Talmud?
Neo · 2018-04-27 18:38
>>6947 If you're under 18, I promise you it's just an age group thing, and will improve over time. If not, you might be interested in what I have to say: I don't think harming others back is desirable. Surely the best outcome is removing the need to exploit one another in the first place, no? You should aim to create an atmosphere where people remain polite and cooperate, but also express their thoughts and feelings openly. It's a sign of maturity. Life does not work such that those who are polite lose, this is your pessimism speaking. You're right in saying that you should strive to be resolute, but don't equate that to being cold. Being honest with other people about your thoughts and feelings is actually the opposite - you're showing that you trust them enough to share your opinions with them. If they take it the wrong way, they have demonstrated that they do not have the capacity to accept being challenged. This is a sign of immaturity on their part. Don't be like this, and call it out (politely and tactfully) should it happen. Nobody likes to feel this way, but it's all a part of the human experience. Whether you're underage or not, this should still apply, but as I said before, you can just wait it out. That's just my thoughts on your dilemma anyways. I don't know if it helps, but I think it makes sense given the little context you gave us.
Pulse · 2018-04-27 21:11
>How to be more cold and resolute in contants with another people? I feel im too weak in communication and everyone think can fuarrrk me in ass and use for own goals. Go interact with others. And dont let them fuarrrk you over. If you cant do that avoid those people in specific but do continue to try. Dont expect a magical pill, they will fuarrrk you over many times more, but at least all that socializing must have taught you a think or two about telling people to go fuarrrk themselves in subtle and less subtle ways. Sometimes school of hard knocks is the best, if not, only way.