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Rich/poor or big city VS villager mindset

Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2023-04-18 22:08
How does your mindset change when you move between social classes (change your social circle by becoming either richer or poorer)? Have you ever been. So, has it ever crossed your mind how differently people from different social classes perceive each other? Rich/middle class are seen by the poor as "coddled by life and thus being too soft and weak/never seen any complications, because money has always helped them solve their problems easily, quickly and effectively". On the other hand, the poor are seen by the rich as "stupid, uneducated cattle, who are jelous, spiteful and resentful towards them"
Chan Siu Ming · 2023-04-18 23:12
I did not do the financial class change but did the settlement class change. I lived in a less than 20k small town my whole life then moved to a nearly 2 million metropolis. The small towners, and basically the whole coutryside percieve the metropolis dwellers as totally inhumane, total jerks, they get everything what this country gets (aka taking away from the countryside), and that the metropolis dwellers deserve some kind of lesson by life. They percieve the metropolis itself as barely suitable for human life, while still filled with super-rich elites. After 2 years of living in the metropolis now, i have to say, all these negative things what we thought about it in the countryside, are 99% true. On the other hand it has lots of benefits, one of which is important for us cyber people: being able to disappear. I hate every moment of living in this big city, but i couldn't go back to the small town. It would be like downgrading life from current version to alpha 0.1.2.3
J.C. Denton · 2023-04-19 02:03
>>69063 You certainly change your perspective from survival to making long term plans when you get richer On the perception it's just the coping strategy that helps the whole system to stay. I'm lower middle class but had met very rich (by our standards at least) and very poor people and even seen some move in that regard. If you treat them as people with respect but at the same time not sucking up to them and not view them as scum of the earth or moneybags you can see that there is a lot in common. But keep in mind I know mostly new money people since we don't really have old money in our country for the most part, at least not in our city. So maybe it's different when you are born into it and your parents were also born into it. As for cities I love I. A smal satellite town next to a city Very comfortable I first saw a supermarket when I was 7 so you might imagine that I'm provincial to the core. But having a good education usually takes off the rough edges while I'm still able to pull up sleeves and get into the trenches so to speak
Sabo Engle · 2023-04-27 10:45
Are you rich or poor, op? Or middle class?
Jane Doe · 2023-04-28 07:08
I moved from the city out into the countryside and my view of life in general has been radically altered. I've always been a primitivist at heart so maybe it's just my core values that were latent and waiting to find expression. For example, I find it absolutely insane that people in the city want to avoid hard manual labour as much as possible, striving to get a job in an office, sitting in front of a computer, and then having to pay money to go to a place where they have to lift weights and perform no useful work at all thus transforming all that energy into pure heat. Even more crazy is that they usually have to force themselves to go to these places because they rather would not but they have to do that, and drain their paycheck they get from sitting in an office. They also need to spend more money on consuming the very energy they need to dump on these exercise machines. And everything in the city follows this kind of pattern. It's beyond crazy.
J.C. Denton · 2023-04-28 12:06
>>69281 >For example, I find it absolutely insane that people in the city want to avoid hard manual labour as much as possible, striving to get a job in an office, sitting in front of a computer, and then having to pay money to go to a place where they have to lift weights and perform no useful work at all thus transforming all that energy into pure heat People go for office jobs because of the pay and the stability. Manual labor pays like soykaf unless you're highly skilled or lucky enough to be a longshoreman. Otherwise you're getting paid <15 bucks an hour to work in probably-hazardous conditions and you might not have a job in a week. There is also the class component. Office jobs are viewed as intrinsically higher class.
Chan Siu Ming · 2023-04-29 15:05
>>69285 The health risks in manual labor range from broken knees, lost fingers to dead. The worst office can give you is hemorrhoids. Its a nobrainer to prefer office safety wise even if you ignore pay gap. There are some cool craftsman jobs but they are extremely rare. Like if you do woodworking making custom pieces for rich people you can earn a kings wage doing what you love but there aren't enough buyers to cover more than a few shops...
Fred Nurk · 2023-04-29 18:31
>>69316 I work as a manager in a warehouse that's simultaneously the main office of our company. , So I usually sit at the desk but sometimes we all go help with unpackaging, packaging, sorting and stuff. I feel it's a good balance, since I can basically choose not to sit at my desk all day long and go help if I don't have some urgent task.
Faye Valentine · 2023-04-30 19:51
I can provide some insight having come from a relatively poor family and done a master's at Cambridge. Granted, the admissions standards are quite high so there's a mutual understanding from everyone that you're on roughly equal footing aptitude wise. I have doubts that would be the case outside the ivory tower. I don't really have a bad thing to say about anyone I met there. People had more self-confidence than I'm used to, but not in an arrogant way. Most people I met were incredibly friendly, far more so than I experienced growing up, and I think most were sincere in that friendliness. I'm sure some of that can be chalked up to mostly interacting with other (mostly international) postgrads. With that said, anyone involved in student politics or political societies was out of touch with reality, though few students actually cared about that. Most seemed pretty down to earth, or were caught up with their studies or rowing. Honestly, the locals were the rudest people I interacted with there.
Cat Mother · 2023-06-02 09:43
>>69252 For my country? I guess at the bottom of middle class
Fred Nurk · 2023-06-02 10:47
>>69281 >For example, I find it absolutely insane that people in the city want to avoid hard manual labour as much as possible, striving to get a job in an office, sitting in front of a computer, and then having to pay money to go to a place where they have to lift weights and perform no useful work at all thus transforming all that energy into pure heat. Even more crazy is that they usually have to force themselves to go to these places because they rather would not but they have to do that, and drain their paycheck they get from sitting in an office. Drain their paycheck? A 24/7 gym membership is like $15 a month and you're making more than enough money to cover that in any decent office job. Also plenty of offices have their own gym. Before I worked remote full time, I'd just go to the office gym and do a few sets whenever I was waiting on code to compile.
Vasya Pupkin · 2023-06-17 01:28
I have seen first-hand the dehumanization that even the mildly better off than normal give towards their "lessers". Being on the bottom rung of the ladder in every way except a few, currently, I can tell you that no amount of suffering or privilege causes people to become better. Who you are fundamentally will shape who you are when your lot in life changes. Status, money, property, and power will bring out your true colors. But it will also stain them. Make them worse. The more you have, the more you want so to speak. Is that human, or just a product of the systems we build around ourselves? I couldn't tell you. My breadth of knowledge on human nature is, like everyone's, non-existent. But I will say: Medium-sized city people have been much nicer to me than anyone else. I guess that just depends on where you are.