Magic individuals

Have you ever come across "magic individuals"? (For the lack of a better word.) >Background People sometimes called their children "indigo children", Neville Goddard talked about the mind being able to create reality, Hitler claimed to be an Avatar of the collective German psyche and going back each generation seems to have some kind of idea of magic or predestination, even though the majority of the culture usually rejects it. The CIA has some opened documents about extrasensory abilities being real but every formal academic studies rejects this. Alexander the Great's Father told him to find himself another kingdom because the one he leaves for him is to small. Have you ever met extremely talented people who gave you the sense that perhaps they are a bit magical or extra blessed or whatever you want to call it? How did they make you feel? Are you one of them? Have you experienced this? I have what I feel to be weird abilities I have no control over being able to influence the outside world, despite rationally thinking about it gives me the conclusion that it shouldn't be possible. Like for instance, I have planted seeds about memes then a couple of years or months my original meme gets re-created but better and takes on a life of it's own. I am extremely fortunate as well, I will have this calling to buy BTC then I took all my savings and bought BTC $1000 +-, same thing happened with Nvidia and other stocks. I also feel I have the ability but no control to influence reality and that it's as if I am being looked after or guided somewhere. Nietzsche had the idea of coincidence of ideas, or Gedanken-Zufall, is this because of the individual or because of the universe? Do people like this get selected to give ideas to Humanity or is the idea already tangible and eternal and humans haven't thought of it? Another interesting thing is Shelldrake about how once a certain thing has been created, some human mind has accepted it to be true, that it becomes easier and easier to replicate it and that's why we have things like the coincidence of ideas. I am very sorry if this is the wrong board or you guys think this is low quality schizo post, I have only been lurking a couple of months. >Tl;DR >Do you know of "magic" people >How did they make you feel, did you trust them, want to follow them? >Could this be harnessed and controlled? >Is this unique to schizos or do all people fall into the trap of magical thinking? If so why do people like Hitler manifest his own density so strongly or Alexanders Father being able to instantly see his boy was destined for great things?

>>68671 I have kind of the opposite ability. Truthfully, it feels like the world is laughing at me and constantly tormenting me in personalized ways. It keeps it so that it is just enough to where I still cannot quite tell if it is coincidence or a genuine attempt to target me, so I cannot say for sure, but I strongly suspect it. Even a lot of the personalities I interact with online seem to be a part of it. It's as if they know just how to push my buttons and send me into mental anguish despite supposedly being a random person I've never met. That aside, I have never met anyone who I would consider "special" in the way you described, I have only read about it in fantasy works.

>>68672 I am sorry to hear that Anon, perhaps what we project into the world is what we get back, I do not mean that in a way to target you, I understand the irony of my response but certainly "special" individuals exist. >In the normal course of events many men and women are born with various remarkable qualities and talents; but occasionally, in a way that transcends nature, a single person is marvellously endowed by heaven with beauty, grace and talent in such abundance that he leaves other men far behind... Everyone acknowledged that this was true of Leonardo da Vinci, an artist of outstanding physical beauty who displayed infinite grace in everything he did and who cultivated his genius so brilliantly that all problems he studied were solved with ease This is what was said of Da Vinci. Let's assume Leonardo Da Vinci is a 10 on the out of 10 specialness scale. Can you cultivate this, is it perceived from the outside or is it created internally? Is his talents innate or created with extremely hard work, could someone else with the same circumstances create the same things or was it unique to him was he blessed disspriotnely? For instance in your case, were you chosen to suffer from your interactions or could you force your will onto the world and change it to have better experiences consistently? Perhaps that would make you a level 2 "magic man" instead of a 10 but that would greatly improve your life wouldn't it?

>rationally thinking about it gives me the conclusion that it shouldn't be possible. Like for instance, I have planted seeds about memes then a couple of years or months my original meme gets re-created but better and takes on a life of it's own. I am extremely fortunate as well, I will have this calling to buy BTC then I took all my savings and bought BTC $1000 +- I think this seeming incongruity normally comes from the false impression that your thoughts and actions are wholly your own. Consider someone who says something related to a product and, when they then see a related targeted advertisement, conclude there must be microphones spying on them. What really probably happened is that the circumstances guiding their interest preceded the vocalization, and were inferred by the ad from various metadata. But people think of their actions as emerging from nothing and don't imagine themselves as being essentially a part of a larger wave. That said, being near the origin point of proto-memes, early stage crypto etc, is a good and influential place to be. But that's what it's about, being in the right place, communicating with the right people, being an appropriate conduit for a new thought, not being blessed or imbued with powers as an individual. It's hard-to-quantify circumstances, and you can lose your place in those circumstances easily. How to acquire or maintain them is worth considering.

>>68674 >That said, being near the origin point of proto-memes, early stage crypto etc, is a good and influential place to be. But that's what it's about, being in the right place, communicating with the right people, being an appropriate conduit for a new thought, not being blessed or imbued with powers as an individual. It's hard-to-quantify circumstances, and you can lose your place in those circumstances easily. Very well put and nothing you said is something I disagree with. I didn't want to write an essay as an OP. I am just wondering among friends if the human condition has humans that have "more" and not something as materialistic as height, looks or even intelect. Some promethean spark and wheter that can be enhanced, diminished or RNG generator attacked, I guess the trillions of parameters of the AI GTP4 is an attempt at that actually lol. >How to acquire or maintain them is worth considering. Yes but instead of looking from the logical side first, I want to look at it from the esoteric, illogical side first, if that makes sense. English isn't my mother tongue, sorry if I am writing like a retard just bear with me with all the metaphors and symbolism etc.

>>68673 The truth is that God hates me. What you say is forbidden by Him and would contradict the role he has for me. everything about this world was made in a way that is the exact opposite of how I would have it I live in the worst time in history. I was born unattractive. Nothing I ever do can change anything yet everyone else seems able to change something at least. Trying would just give God some reason to laugh at best.

>>68676 I have no advice, I disagree that this is the worst time in history, you brewing soykaf with us means it can't be that bad where you are right now. I agree with you that it's a very bad time in history to be born unattractive, this day and age most people only value looks. Money, intellect, skills, social status play less and less of role in securing love. Which is disheartening, it feels like people used to be able to love people for who they are instead of their looks like a women falling for a noble but ugly knight, perhaps just a romantized version of the past but your personality is unattractive as well, hopelessness and cowardice is never appealing. I am not saying you should change it, but those are feelings that can be trained or beaten into submission with repeated exposer.

>>68677 >I disagree that this is the worst time in history I disagree again. It cannot possibly be worse than it is now unfortunately. It would literally be better if I was murdered where I stand.

>>68675 >Yes but instead of looking from the logical side first, I want to look at it from the esoteric, illogical side first, if that makes sense. Yeah that's probably the right call, this sort of thing is a blind spot for systematic logical thought. My only criticism of your approach is the individual focus, as I don't believe these forces regard anyone as special in themselves. Who knows though. >>68672 >Even a lot of the personalities I interact with online seem to be a part of it. It's as if they know just how to push my buttons and send me into mental anguish despite supposedly being a random person I've never met. Sadistic intent and instinct doesn't get enough credit. There's so many ways to hurt people and more impulse to get good at it than people want to admit. Very high skill ceiling and many people playing the game. Maybe they've convinced you to cooperate though? Like everything falling into a narrative that is itself an engine of pain? Sorry if that sounds condescending.

Knew someone who was exceptionally smart. Better at me in all subjects. Exceptionally lucky and social too with musical talent to boot. A better human in every possible way with some weird animal magnetism aspect. The kind of person who everything just turns out fine and every chance they took in life was rewarded. Could have easily been a cult leader. I was just the opposite. Every chance I took in life was immediately and brutally punished no matter how small or how heavily in favor of me the odds were. People don't like me even when they get to know me and strangers make faces at me in public. I worked hard in school and never achieved anything beyond average. Zero talents or hobbies either too. I don't know if I'd say magic person. But some people seem chosen in some strange way. This person I'm talking about could grab you just with the eyes. The kind of eyes that drag a guilty conscience into the light and bring joy to the good

>>68677 lol you look at reality through a pinhole. Black pills do this.

>>68680 sounds like the kind of person whose car I'd key and tires I'd slash. fuarrrk that guy

At this point it's grating having to chime in about this yet again in another /hum/ thread, but holy damn if the community is not dancing around this phenomenon. It's also incredibly frustrating that I am unable to bring anything objective and compelling in order to reinforce my observations. Yeah, just trust me bro. Pfft. You are not just you. Full stop. It's hard to absorb because we have been inundated with a materialist conception of the world and it is baked deep in our conception of our individual consciousness. It feels natural but it is not. All of the soykaf *all of it* in this thread is pointing the finger towards the non-physical intelligence that puppets us and our fate along in our daily lives. I can only tell you this because my entity is rambunctious and honestly not very smart, making itself and its machinations in plain sight, predictable, interruptible, and with a communicated narrative it must maintain. It came as the guise of a tulpa, then djinn, landing on it's mainstay of a demon, but only so many lies can be weaved before it collapses. I've forced that collapse in some form thousands of times. I've tested from my own vantage of whatever the entity that is with me is capable of. Stripped of it's more elaborate games and manipulations it exposes itself as determined toward a singular goal as if some meek mechanical recursion error now, but every now and then it like's to revisit one of its old tricks to see if they will work. Nope'd and GOTO 20. So to OP, yes it can be controlled, but not easily wielded as far as I can tell. It's a strict modus operandi. Again, I'm lucky to have such a moronic entity with me, because it has illuminated something frightfully fluid, natural, and integrated in humanity's collective psyche. If you feel like there is an invisible hand directing you, congratulations, you're not a fool among fools. I shutter to think what some of you may be stuck with, or to interrupt those of you with seemingly good and powerful fortune with it. As I see it this phenomenon is being realized quick. Maybe that's why schizo memes are such a big thing nowadays, because on some level everybody is realizing some part of this unsettling nature and are either yet to fully realize it or fail to find out how to communicate about it. This thread is a good start though. I can only guess of why this is happening but ungrounded and uninformed speculation will only lead to delusion. I can only ask everybody to be aware, keep an open mind, and become certain of who You are. What your most truthful ethical and moral standing is. What of character that makes you and what you want to see out of yourself. To be able to stand against any assault and delusion of who you are on a fundamental level as to not be changed or shaken. You're far stronger than you think you are, so buckle up for what's up ahead... soykaf's about to get spooky.

>>68671 >Are you one of them? Yes. I don't know what else to say. I have extremely good luck, everything always works out for me. But there's one thing, I have bad luck in the way that this person is talking: >>68682 Bad luck because there are some people who are jealous or something. It doesn't really bother me, though, I just roll with the punches. It's almost exactly how >>68680 said, though. It was like people just were magnetically attracted to me. I always thought it was strange. I have blue eyes though and a lot of people have commented on how nice my eyes are. Older people used to say I had an "old soul".

>>68671 >Magic individuals Magically born magic people having some prominent, on a relative scale, physical (magical) characteristics is now considered transcendental? Am I, then, otherworldly myself? I am incredibly smart (by my own metrics of course, 'cause that's how you judge of transcendental, amiright?) as compared to an apple. >>68683 Schizotypal ramblings. Also, >luck No such thing.

Yes, a friend who consistently attracts the strangest, most insane individuals in the area, no matter the context. You sit down for a coffee with him, a schizophrenic from the table across comes up to you with a 45-minute rant about music genres that neither of you listen to. Walk the street, a random couple having a screaming match somehow drags him into it, asking him who's to blame. You look up a person online, they show up in front of his apartment randomly the next day. And that's just a few recent examples. A big chunk of his circle are autists and people that aren't very conventional. On top of that, his family is all kinds of fuarrrked up. My theory is that, because he doesn't look threatening and seems very friendly and nonjudgemental on the surface, these crazy types feel safe enough in front of him to let their true colours show. Still doesn't explain the constant glitch-in-the-matrix-esque happenings around him, though.

>>68707 It's caused by the structure of his subconscious, his belief system, and potentially usage of internal imagery. Your friend has a mind that is, even when diffuse, still highly "coherent". The rest of the worst is forced to conform and oscillate in sympathy, like pacemaker cells of the heart. Look into sympathetic magic. If I want to run into someone, I can make it happen within a week. Otjher events, depending on starting state (at least that's how it works if you take on a materialistic lens where the universe has fixed laws and probablistic behavior, maybe you could rewrite the world instantly) a day or two. People consistently echo my thoughts, follow and reflect my fixations, and so on.

>>68718 Are you sure you're not misinterpreting patterns, like >>68674 said? You're in an area where Person A is likely to appear, so naturally, they make their way into your thoughts. A few days later, they indeed appear, and your bias is confirmed.

>>68671 >ESP >PSI Such abilities very likely follow standard distributing (just like any other skill or ability). Ultimately, I wouldn't bother with CIA FOIA docs, instead I recommend focusing on early ESP research and ancient esoteric traditions (especially Buddhism).

>>68678 Then die, and save us your cries, because there's nothing we can fuarrrking do about it. If all you do with your time is convince people you're a piece of soykaf, stop acting surprised when they start to believe you.

>>68727 No, I controlled for all that. My life is very empty and simple, so it's very easy to see cause and effect.

the elephant in the room here is genetics, humans have a pedigree, good intentional breeding brings ripe candidates to enjoy the fruits of this world. just like a fweaking horse. it's obvious, but you can't say it. most of us mutts are accidents, but you still can play a role. it is a taboo to point out that there are different 'types' of people just like there are 'types' of bees. bringing up selective breeding is too wrapped up with euthenasia and evil scientist power fantasies. if you have a way to talk to your DNA then you can change how you evolve. the problem we're facing now with 'the environment' is that we're being kept on the surface of the planet, there's nothing left for domesticated primates to do here except grow cancer cells. you can even use the most wretched poverty to succeed (in attaining gnosisvision). the view is the same from the very top and very bottom.

knew a guy who could apparently see auras. Another guy would hear a voice tell him to go talk to random people on the street about God, only to find that the randoms were asking for signs of divine providence or wanted encouragement from a spiritual perspective beforehand. I personally would predict meme and cultural trends months and years before they happened in the last decade. Many people that I've met recounted dreams that are analogous to future events; nothing spectacular, something like a guy dreaming of going to a specific place with a specific person, waking up, and an impromptu excursion suggested by the specific person to that specific place taking place the same day. All of this, and I can't be a powerful wizzerd spewing fireballs or conjuring catgirls from atop a stone tower? What a lame, magical world.

>>68707 >he doesn't look threatening and seems very friendly and nonjudgemental on the surface That's exactly it. Source: I am that person. Fairly attractive but normal and aproachable, non-threatening not aggresive. Open, looks people in the eyes, always listens. Stuff like that happens to me all the time. It's mostly nice, an older lady starts talking about the weather and we spend 15 minutes chatting about life and stuff, some dude wishes me good luck, we shake hands, some guy warns me that there's a storm coming and it's time to leave the lakeside, people asking me for directions, all the time, older woman ask if I could help her carry groceries (I do, I'm that guy) random people at a hardware store asking questions and chatting and so on. It's not magic dude, it's just not being afraid, having a chill personality. My girlfriend once tried to explain it to me, like, there's goodness in your eyes and people can see it and they're not afraid.

Yeah I'm one of these. When I was 1 years old I survived near death, the doctor called it a miracle. I have clairvoyance, when I'm awake and sober most I can do is reliably predict coin flips, dice rolls 3 times a day with a 100% success rate, any more than 3 times the rate drops and I don't feel anything they just become normal guesses. One part of my brain has completely convinced the logical part it is very real, by repeating this experiment with same results many times, with dice rolls especially it is hard to explain away as chance. Before anyone suggests I do some stuff with it like gamble or something, watch this movie in the picture. Gotta keep a low profile. Now when I'm a hypnagogic state, dreaming or on dissociative drugs I can see pretty far in the future, saw some really scary soykaf in 2019 you can guess what I saw. Anyway magic is real, oh yeah I forgot I can also remote view, that is also real. I have accidentally read people's minds a few times, but can't replicate, also astral projected and again can't replicate. Governments know about magic for sure and use it for evil, pretty obvious the world is ruled by evil occult forces. I'm convinced they deliberately cause near death experiences to their children to make them magical.

>>68775 Okay I'm gonna be that guy and ask: have you seen anything for the future from now? Could you describe in further detail in how these premonitions appear?

>>68777 Just some personal stuff. They come in visions, flashes of images in my head, have to be in an altered state. It's usually from drugs, and I don't do it very often any more.

Indigo child is a bad example because it's bullshit and is more of a thing of helicopter parents wanting to believe their kids are special

>>68779 It's actually brain damage from an increased vaccine schedule. This leads to the inability to fight off and individuate from the parents, which manifests as helicopter behavior. So both deficits in the child and a protective disposition of the parents entwine and mutually amplify.

>Is this unique to schizos or do all people fall into the trap of magical thinking? Many totally normal people fall into magical thinking, people will have the weirdest rituals that they'll keep on doing even after failure. As for correct decisions regarding the future without a clear reasoning, I think it's just intuition and that intuition is a very underrated thing (except for women, they give it too much credit to the point it's overrated for them).

>>68685 Maybe you fell. Do you feel like you are degenerating away a personal heritage by being so disconnected from your eternal essence?

>>68676 Woe is the man who feels wronged by God, for he, in his arrogance, thinks that the divine care about him. Get off your high horse, doomsayer

>>68676 if you believe it to be, then it will become so. change your beliefs for the positive and reality will follow

>>68782 You people make everything about vaccines

>>68671 For those interested in spirituality and magick, here are some YouTube channels of people sharing their experiences and teaching different methods: >The Open Resourcery: https://youtube.com/channel/UCzvGbOvkxcbbZhGaLYsT6lQ >Epiphany Lectures: https://youtube.com/channel/UCkapAfjQ8-BqA-bb20f2ERg >Damien Echols: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnRyoC6Oww6FrYVc-BxKyDg >Foolish Fish: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVtWVX2xirq6Nybf5bumqwg >Knowledge is Power - Gary Lite: https://youtube.com/c/GaryLite >Foolish Society (f.k.a. Masterly Foolish): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkXPu85vv0D1O-ZzNeXEEKg >WATER ALCHEMIST: https://youtube.com/channel/UCSt4zlEOgdV0sHlBjrvm1Jg >Nu Lyfe Tools (a.k.a. Bro. Yosef): https://youtube.com/channel/UCcglHx0nqCbw4JOFC2wtqjA >Nu Lyfe Tools Forever: https://youtube.com/channel/UCQGj75zGhX0np9Y0ZNVZEOg

>>68671 No one is a magic person, some people just have a greater control over mans natural magic.

>>68671 I'm not sure if you'd consider this magic or whatever, but I feel like I have a receiver built into my brain that can pick up the brainwaves and thoughts of people around me as well as other creatures and entities I cannot identify. But everything comes through like a stream of jumbled mess it fills my head full of fuarrrk. If I stay away from high traffic public areas, the mind receiver doesn't pick up a lot of signals and I feel fine. Wearing headphones and playing loud music also seems to help. As a result, I'm a near total recluse. I live in terror that there can be backflow and everyone will be able to hear my thoughts or see through me. Sometimes I feel like I could fall through the world like a glitch in a PC game. I'm incapable of holding a conversation with people because I can't pay attention because of all the fuarrrk in my mind.

>>68907 gaccines are an easy way to troll people and since the epidemic, they go into an irrational rage because they agreed to be used as test subjects for virtually nothing.

>>68995 What is "mans natural magic?"

>>68671 > Have you ever met extremely talented people who gave you the sense that perhaps they are a bit magical or extra blessed or whatever you want to call it? You. The only reason you aren't there right now is because you're taking life passively. EVERY SINGLE PERSON is "magic", they have thoughts, feelings, and entire lives/worlds that they live whether or not I or You ever think about it for more than a second. In fact, there are about 8 billion of those lives being lived at this very moment. We create these "magic men" in hindsight, they were not magic inherently. They lived their lives in earnest and did not live the lie that we tell ourselves about special people and destiny. Ironically, that lie about fate is exactly what prevents us from living "magic" lives. What I'm trying to say is that all this crap about "indigo children" and "avatar of the german spyche" and so on are popular lies people tell themselves that have no bearing on reality but which make them feel special or justify their place in existence. Instead of being a kid with focus problems, you're a psychic empath. Instead of being a megalomaniacal murderer, you're an avatar of the people. It's like the npc meme that a suprising number of people believe unironically. On the one hand are the people who are convinced that they are unimportant, a narcisism of self-defeat. On the other hand, the people who are convinced that they are special or more important than anyone else. They tell themselves its genetics, or its IQ, or any other pseudo-scientific construct to justify their arbitrary gerrymandering of people, but it's all total bullshit. They tell themselves "I'm special" or "That person is special" because they want to draw some arbitrary line between the "magic" and the "mundane". But there is no line between those groups, they are the same group. Everyone is mundane, everyone has special moments too. Some of those are grand, others are miniscule, but they're all so important and beautiful. You're life is not less important just because it isn't in a history book. The Macedonian prince would not have become as influential as they did had they not pursued their ambitions. I'm not sorry for this rant, this has to be said because far to many people believe those arrogant lies. So go out there, and life a life worth living. Stop letting people dictate what you can and cannot do, especially not yourself. Always do your best, push a little further, and soar. Carpe diem!

>>71024 This post is mean spirited and just makes me feel bad

>>71025 Why do you feel that way? Isn't the whole point of it that you should go do stuff and live your life instead of worrying about being special or not? Your life has inherent value, why let negativity hold you down?

>>71026 fuarrrk off man. This soykaf is so awful

>>71024 Inclusive envious cattle mindset. >stop letting people tell you what to do >unless it's me lol

>>68671 >Have you ever come across "magic individuals"? Yeah, seen a few of those, or at least people who think they're special snowflakes. >BackgroundPeople sometimes called their children "indigo children", Neville Goddard talked about the mind being able to create reality, Hitler claimed to be an Avatar of the collective German psyche... Yeah, yeah, heard these before. Pseudo-spiritual mumbo jumbo mixed with historical nonsense. >The CIA has some opened documents about extrasensory abilities being real but every formal academic studies rejects this. CIA documents? Really scraping the bottom of the conspiracy barrel now. >Have you ever met extremely talented people who gave you the sense that perhaps they are a bit magical or extra blessed or whatever you want to call it? Yeah, met some folks who think they're touched by the cosmic finger. Usually just overinflated egos. >I have what I feel to be weird abilities I have no control over being able to influence the outside world... Ah, the classic "I'm special and things just happen to me" spiel. Give me a break. >Nietzsche had the idea of coincidence of ideas, or Gedanken-Zufall, is this because of the individual or because of the universe? Nietzsche, really? That's your deep source? Coincidence of ideas is just that, coincidence. No need to invoke the universe or whatever. >Do people like this get selected to give ideas to Humanity or is the idea already tangible and eternal and humans haven't thought of it? Oh, the chosen ones to bring humanity enlightenment? Spare me the messiah complex, please. >Another interesting thing is Shelldrake about how once a certain thing has been created, some human mind has accepted it to be true... Sheldrake's theories? Now we're diving into fringe science. Don't mistake acceptance for some mystical force. >Tl;DR>Do you know of "magic" people >How did they make you feel, did you trust them, want to follow them? >Could this be harnessed and controlled? >Is this unique to schizos or do all people fall into the trap of magical thinking? If so why do people like Hitler manifest his own density so strongly or Alexanders Father being able to instantly see his boy was destined for great things? Magic people? Trust, follow, control? Seriously, you're all over the place. Hitler and Alexander's father? Apples and oranges comparison. Look, OP, you're tossing around half-baked ideas and trying to weave them into some grand narrative. It's all just human psychology and a dash of self-importance.

>>73819 You didn't understand the OP at all and just became combative. I wasn't writing a academic essay, I was asking a question and all you did was be little me and attack my thought process as if I said "this is the undebatable truth." If you can't entertain the idea why would you post nothing but a personal attack?

>>74021 People like to reinforce their own worldview at the expense of others. By belittling you and your points they can feel secure in their worldview choice.

Me and my mom were both "one of them", its not real. To this day my grandparents and moms siblings think my mom has some kind of magic power. This actually caused not directly but indirectly her to suffer immense amounts of abuse, including sexual, at the hands of her own parents. My grandma was sort of a politicians secretary and my grandpa was a college professor deeply interested in jung and freud and substances I think you can imagine the type. My grandpa believed somehow my mom had some closer connection to the collevtive unconscious he would never achieve and as a result abused her. He also had serious mommy issues and was a pedophile and that probably has nothing to do with his beliefs. He definitely believed in indigo children and also probably thought whatever abusive stuff he was doing was somehow good for them. My mom is just self aware and also self critical to a fault and has a martyr complex and thats it. Being these things she can see herself in a lot of other people and is also in some ways really manipulative in ways she doesnt even know which maybe makes it seem like magic but I can see them. She can very easily make you feel bad about yourself despite never directly bringing you or anything you do up, shes had people at work chase her down saying "we need to talk" and the people doing so look insane to everyone else and they never even knew there was a problem. She was raised being paraded around as a prodigy with some super IQ (which is also nonsense) just to have it all turned around on her and instead be labeled as someone who just "seems to make people mad" and that was responsible for her own abuse as a child. My mom was a child during the cold war when a bunch of weird testing and public experiments around things like high IQ were being developed. Again I personally think IQ was a failed experiment. My mom made sure not to give me the ego her parents tried to give her, maybe like overzealously but I think she made the right choice. I still have some of her same problems where it seems like random people will decide i just have some bad energy they can describe even when pushed to the point where they should just blurt it out. Im confident though this may be because I make myself someone people dont want to hurt and I think I probably know exactly what people mean when they say I have "bad energy" and how to work on it. There is no indigo children, if you think someone is a magical individual you should look within yourself. Did you know, men often write fantasy stories where a child is the "key" to dalvation. Its a popular powerful trope that really is just the writers quest for their own salvation. Indigo children, magical people, its no different. Its just someone making someone they dont understand into a god. It makes for fun stories. But there is no salvation in some special child I promise you. Likewise you (not OP just anyone reading this) are not some special child, and believing you are with all your heart will not result in some inevitable rise to the top. Anyone you could pick if they were made into a great historical figure like alexander the great would in retrospect find within their history some prophetic vision or word that laid it all out that it was just predestined. Yet innumerable numbers of people attach meaning to such things every day and get no farther towards some kind of grand position. It is irrelevant. Call it anecdotal, despite all this testing and readily available high IQ scores, my mom works a nearly minimum wage job as a teachers assistant and spends most of her time alone. Had she been some great ruler though she would have said "Oh my parents always said I was special and had powers and natural gift". This is true for all. Two of the greatest people I know, had no such experience as I or my mom did. Of people constantly telling us there was "just something about you". They are people I think anyone would find traits they aspire to in, and I have grown leaps more than any magical thinking or others magical observations could give me in talking with them. I am absolutely convinced there is only detriment in ideas such as indigo children, magical people. My mom and even I at one point would describe a system similar to you, its as if there is some vague handshake with the universe for good fortune that we have navigated. I have good fortune, my mom does not but sees my own as hers. There is no special power to your good fortune in buying stocks, there is at best an ability to read the times as a result of how you were raised and at "worst" you got lucky. Anyone who gets extremely lucky in this society will gain some kind of confidence from it and among those with that confidence will attribute it to powers or think it must be some action they took. When in reality it isnt, there is numerous studies to prove this (using people not lab rats). Sorry to be so violent, but I know and no internet post can tell me otherwise that this is not the path or something you should move forwards with in your life. Do things like any great person, out of love and rational intention. Unless your goal is to become a cult leader who is the equivalent of a shock site in the history books. If that is your goal, then "indigo children" being real or not; who cares. What good does it bring beyond an interesting story years in the future when the horror of it all has become detatched. No, even if you got lucky a few times. You will have to work as hard as anyone to do any good. Whatever skills you have that identify you as some special person are not any different at their base level from what identify someone as an honest person, a good person, a mean person, or anything. You have to find a use for them, and you only value them against others because they are yours. That can be its own trap of dismissing great people, greater than you by far in terms of action. What benefit did you buying BTC at 1000 produce for anyone truly en masse outside of your own. Who cares, what will you do with it now? Will you do anything with it beyond your self interest? What good is it to me, or anyone here if so. You will die with it (and probably exhaust it) unless you cast out the fires of your own masturbatory ways. I have no problem with masturbation, I love jerking off, but I leave it to jerking off. I dont masturbate my own ability or intellect or life ( i try not to at least, im sure in some minor ways I have even with this post but just to give example and context i hope). Eat your words and you will starve. No matter how you convince others I assure you personally, you have no command over the environment and fate beyond what you work towards. And this meta realization will offer you no innate salvation beyond anyone else. Everyone is participating in the work equally regardless of realization or not.

>>74029 That's what elites do, they believe that abusing their children to point of near death will give them magical abilities, has to be an early age. Your mother is a good person, obviously wanted to keep you away from those bastards and their soykaf, you're lucky.

>>74022 Your justifying your bullshit after the fact.

I don't know about indigo children but I'm a hikineet and on the rare occasions I leave my apartment I always end up running into strange people. So I got myself a bite to eat and was sat outside the public library (needed the high speed internet) when an older woman in her 30s randomly started talking to me. She told me her life story and claimed she had psychic abilities and that said powers led her to fight with her parents. Usually I'd just flee, but here was the opportunity to talk to someone who claimed to be a real esper. So I tried to keep the conversation going for a while with bouts of awkward silence but eventually I was so weirded out I retreated back to the internet. Just the other day, I left home to get some flash drives and other essentials. I was forced to take the public transport (thankfully we have a payment system here which means we never have to actually talk to the bus slave). As I was waiting for the damn thing to come, hoping to God its not filled with people, some random guy started talking to me. He claimed to be working in NYC (a full 7 hours away) which is very strange. How does a guy who's not Zooming work in an office that far away from his home? He claimed he was some kind of analyst working for a big company but couldn't answer basic programming questions. Eventually I shook him off and doubled back a couple times to make sure I wasn't being tailed. I've concluded there are two possibilities for all of this: >I just happen to attract strange people (not likely) >I'm being tailed or manipulated by a powerful entity (likely as I've had problems with pig cops before) >I am mentally ill and these are all people my mind has hallucinated based on stuff I've seen in anime manga (most likely. I'm a recluse who lives alone and has no human contact outside of other lainons and anonymous. I've heard of stuff like this happening to people in solitary)

>>74696 If you go out in the middle of the working days, outside commute hours, you'll find a surprising amount of society's dregs (like hikineets) roaming around. At least that was my experience as a western european guy.

>>68707 This sounds like me, I attract people that nobody would ever think existed. People often ask me "Where do you meet these people" and the answer is all around us. People have approached me and were convinced that I was either the embodiement of God, or the Devil himself. Perhaps I am just a mirror into people. It is almost as if by simply talking to them I see into their souls (so I have been told). I was never particuarly smart or strong, but somehow I usually know exactly what I need to at that time. Sometimes my thoughts border on precognition more than me being good at something. I think people overestimate my abilities because of this. I have had to lie about this frequently, because my dreams manifest IRL, and sometimes I know what's about to happen days in advance. I have an odd sense of empathy where sometimes I almost remote view when I am asleep, and I know exactly what is happening places where I am not to people I know. I once had a fortune teller who was obsessed with doing my numerology, and she said that I have a very particular purpose in life because that purpose has already been realized instead of it being my end goal in life like so many people. I don't remember too much except something about most people have a life arc or whatever where they have to mature and then accomplish a purpose, but according to my numerology, my purpose was realized from birth. I am starting to think that what I thought were intrusive thoughts are a collective conciousness or the universe bleeding into my mind. Professionally, I am a scientists and talking like this IRL would make people say that I am crazy. How else can I explain learning something in a dream only for it to be "Discovered" by someone 2 weeks later like "Sure lain, I knew about this for 2 weeks and didn't say anything" people would just think I am an arrogant attention seeker or crazy.

>>68997 Are there times when it feels like you are under a tremendous amount of water? Sometimes I feel my body movements are out of sync with my mind/soul, like the material world is adding friction to a thing I am trying to do. Like I am trapped in a sluggish body and trapped in the physical realm, unable to escape into a perceived higher plane. Like when you are playing a video game with the sensitivity turned way down. Just to point out I have never used drugs or suffered brain damage. An unrelated question, what are your thoughts on the reincarnation of enlightened souls?

>>74704 Not them, I had a few cases recently where it hit me that I was using these hands to do things and it was like wtf, where am I, what am I doing? Like being a lobster or something.

>>74705 i remember that that really freaked me out when it hit me at 6 years old

>>74701 The logical conclusion of that claim is kinda funny >all weirdos go outside same time at weird hours >see only other weirdos >go online talking how normal people are weird

>>74709 Everyone's a weirdo. Think of stacey and chad, total weirdos to be honest.

>>74703 This is mildly relatable. I don't get approached by especially interesting people, but always by the crazies. Not that I mind, I like them even. Perhaps they see that in me but they very often talk to me of all people.

>Have you ever come across "magic individuals"? (For the lack of a better word.) yes but it seems there's only an age range for such. usually people in their early teens. watched "medaka box" and it pretty much has shown similarly how it works. >People sometimes called their children "indigo children", Neville Goddard talked about the mind being able to create reality, Hitler claimed to be an Avatar of the collective German psyche we can put it in another way, every single one of you are manifesting the shared reality. it's called the power of 1%, you're just unaware of your power, and either constitutes to their empowerment or self-degrading. most people do the former. isn't it a shock how some people have so much power? that's because of the social network (not talking about websites btw) and also why extrovert/leadership skills are seen as powerful. most children at young age are somewhat weird and may sometimes babble about their past life (aka mysteries of being a parent) or exhibit some kind of trait, it is evidence that soul/yearning is somewhat immortal or passed down or is recycled. indigo children is mostly a coined meme, everyone has (had) these traits and it's just that you (may) forget them as you grow since the mind of a child is underdeveloped. some people though have partial recollection of their past - but also I found out that you can get "possessed" or rather you can "repossess" another soul or stray. this is the only explanation for acquired savantism or awakening of a past memory, a stray/soul but the prerequisite is maybe near-death experience (my theory is the soul took pity and repaired/prevented one's soul from demise). so we have things like violent attack making one a math genius or incident like Dorothy Eady, and foreign accent syndrome. yes... we are actually malleable beings? >Have you ever met extremely talented people who gave you the sense that perhaps they are a bit magical or extra blessed or whatever you want to call it? How did they make you feel? everyone can have dreams of what may happen, anyone can deja vu, anyone can remote view (according to the foundation). anyway it's just that people cannot control their brain waves, it's all about brain waves. the biggest Executives actually practices these stuff, look up Silva method and the other esoteric stuff (flashing images or imagining scenarios everyday), the latter though is more of a thing used by the ad industry and mainstream media as tool for the 1% to manifest their actions. you are all capable. it only matters how much you believe in MAGIC >Are you one of them? Have you experienced this? I have what I feel to be weird abilities I have no control over being able to influence the outside world, despite rationally thinking about it gives me the conclusion that it shouldn't be possible. Like for instance, I have planted seeds about memes then a couple of years or months my original meme gets re-created but better and takes on a life of it's own. I am extremely fortunate as well, I will have this calling to buy BTC then I took all my savings and bought BTC $1000 +-, same thing happened with Nvidia and other stocks. I also feel I have the ability but no control to influence reality and that it's as if I am being looked after or guided somewhere. good for you. that means you're awarely focused and synchronized with your reality. the big executives have this in larger scale and manage huge companies so that it doesn't fail badly. people have control, you control your cells - quantumly speaking. how do cells communicate and know there's a wound on this place? that cell probably came from the other side of your body, your brain emits frequency (pain) that notifies them, therefore it's really all about the power of your brain freq. for instance anyone can remote view or find lost objects, anyone can predict the future but can that anyone influence it? is a different level. >Nietzsche had the idea of coincidence of ideas, or Gedanken-Zufall, is this because of the individual or because of the universe? Do people like this get selected to give ideas to Humanity there's nothing "special" about an individual. everyone can do these skills, it's just that some individuals are more aware. for instance people who "don't like horoscopes" are stupid since it's not really about the trait of the zodiac sign but the unique trait* when the same time cycle happens (observable constellation sun conjunction) in an entire year, reading into reality and thus time is called horology, it's also why only billionaires believe in such. there is already predefined meaning (space time unique traits*), it's just up to us to take notice that "people actually do this in sync" since they're all unawarely operating at the default state. >Is this unique to schizos or do all people fall into the trap of magical thinking? If so why do people like Hitler manifest his own density so strongly or Alexanders Father being able to instantly see his boy was destined for great things? astrology/horology. basically what Hitler tried to do was hijack the coming of the age of aquarius* but failed miserably since the (his) symbols did not actually align properly. right now we are in the age of amorpheus* but it seems we still can't find/comprehend the lost symbols/logos

>>68671 >have you ever been susceptible to the allure of wannabe cult-leaders we all are at some point

>>74701 why were you outside in the middle of the working days

Nice to meet you! I'm one of those magic kids you speak of! Actually i was just gonna say (it didn't end well haha insert self-deprecating joke here, bloody discord culture ruining what remains of my psyche because discord rewards people for talking about terrible life situations as a joke) TANGENTS Aside... I was born with Asperger's and ADHD, my mum is pretty smart, she's got experience with electrical engineering cause she graduated as one so sometimes she tells me about how stuff works and as a kid that got me real curious about technology, i have this natural curiosity that just draws me into random things (this trait has drawn me into things i wish i hadn't gone into like *ahem* vices **ahem** foreshadowing of what's to come with this) tangents aside again i like breaking things open seeing how their guts work, never really understood it at the time because i didn't have access to internet connection but i had books so i read em for fun. One day Grandma who's basically acting as the father of my family because dad abandoned me cause mum's got this weird "lack of spirit" thing and dad's just whack like he's a food vacuum, whatever details about what PLAPPED me into existence doesn't matter the only thing i cared about is not getting child support cus mum's too depressed at the time to deal with it. Now BACK TO Grandma, I don't really her especially when i was a kid, she does corporal punishment and as an adult(physically) i hate her for it (maybe I'm just putting grandma on pedestal considering she's so great she's still working at the ripe ol age of 60) why the frick don put so much details on these tangents i need to focus on my story anyways uhh. Grandma discovered this naturally curious trait of mine and so she consulted psychiatrists at the office she worked at, her psychiatrist advised her that i should be put in these "special schools" because my mind is basically like a cracked open petri dish filled with growth where whatever sticks to it just grows, or in her own words "An open mind" but that also makes it dangerous cause i could get into bad things easily 1/2

you will probably hate this but the simple truth is this: if you feel a person is "truly special", you've been hoodwinked, baamboozled and over all baited. they've simply achieved an intoxicated mixture of goodliness (kind is the best destructive chaos) that mesmerises people, an aura of destruction. hitler meant that he was able to manifest a german "good aura", an avatar that represented the german psyche, in his own words (if only he didnt have delusions of ruling the world...?). so pull your head out of your ass, and if your going about "of what if they're just really fuarrrking smart and soykaf and otherwordly" then you don't respect them in that way. you accept your unknowing, its like a factor x thing. meanwhile here its more of a too good to be true, an example of this can be seen in berserk, griffith is often implied to be "too good to be true". so yes putting these "magic people" on a pedastal makes you like those npcs who fall to griffith's snare in berserk. ironically an intresting synchronity can be observed here. so ever heard of magick? (it means brain change willed; changing how the brain works according to ones own will) yeah these people are external magicians in this way, so they really are magic people, or rather magick people (a more sophisticated term a certain intresting author used is "toxick magician"). but it is more appropiate to only leave this to people who formally use magick, like they mean it: "MAGICK". so griffith isnt a toxick magician, but rather a magick person.

these people are so powerful that usually they use their abilities for many years to come, just like with alexander (i assume). now i WAS an aspiring toxick magician, now i kinda am but i don't have that killing intent that i used to ilke with someone with griffith, people are kinda just *there* and don't really fill me with an urge to destroy them, except in exceptional cases (as denoted by the word itself...). oh yeah so i guess this makes me a true toxick magician. but im a bit too immature to really just let go and give people what i want, thats a step that i really need to take, (but again, i really don't care for other poeple so yeah i really aren't that dedicated for such a hard goal). ok now ill stop my diatribe and answer your questions dude: >Do you know of "magic" people well some are really just the politicians you see (so like the local ones i see in real life) and thats about it, i do have my suspicions but i know nobody who really is a manipulator and isnt just another politician. (really politicians are just boring, any manipulator worth my time wouldn't be stuck in suuuch a dead end) >How did they make you feel, did you trust them, want to follow them? fuarrrk no obviously (to the second part of your sentence), and so they made me feel a bit intruiged in the case of suspicion, but most of them are just sociopaths (again this is a self-controleld terminology so fuarrrk off with my dee es emm fiv) who need people and just subconciously know how to rub people in the wrong way for their own sustenance, ive managed to manipulate a few, now they try to play the good aura trick on me, i wont fuarrrking buy it (or probably their just being geniunly tricked). >Could this be harnessed and controlled? well most of it *is* intentional, so that implicitly says yes. so yes. >Is this unique to schizos or do all people fall into the trap of magical thinking? this sentence is phrased in a trash way and is filled with soykaf in between, please remove the arbitrary metaphysical assertions next time (like trap, unique, schizos, etc.). but ill answer a rephrased question: >Do only schizos or others aswell use magick well like i said it really isnt a schizo thing, and you said trap so maybe youve been ensnared by your own "goodly aura" (LOL), yeah so the answer is yes. >If so why do people like Hitler manifest his own density so strongly or Alexanders Father being able to instantly see his boy was destined for great things? Hitler was what that same certain author (ill tell if you ask) called a "smart monkey" so still a monkey himself but can tap into others monkeys (or more likely they are monkeys). anyways thats the end of "our" session on monkey theory.

>>74748 great post. don't have anything to add

I believe that the people who have obtained Gnosis (Enabled the Divine spark) posses this. When someone consumes their works or even just interacts with them long enough or even briefly (I'm not sure for how long someone has to do this) they will first attain Pistis on their road to salvation. So it's more like an oral teaching, and I believe internet has helped many in this regard without many noticing. Another related term is Sophia (Wisdom) http://gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Faith_Knowledge.htm

>>68671 'Indigo's' / Magic people are what people are before the system encapsulates them into slavery. There's a big market out there for helping people casting of this slavery system and reconnect with who they truly are. Most of it is a load of crock, aimed at enriching the false prophets that teach it. After many years of searching, what I've experienced into reconnecting with my 'true being' from which I can do 'magic', is through the following: live a humble life in accordance with 'the All', doing the right meditations, living life according to the proper virtues and having a healthy vegetarian diet (no killing animals!). That is all.

Most discussion around parapsychology eventually shifted to straight up psychology. Magic people might be a thing but they’re not supernatural. Don’t go picking up a glow from some charismatic individual and run crazy places with it or you’ll find yourself in some sort of space cult. Do observe people like this and try to understand what makes them special. With practice you can get good at anticipation and persuasion. I want to address Hitler specifically. He may have felt like the embodied collective will of the German people but most Germans were mortified by the Holocaust.

>>74725 I agree with the early teens assessment- I've met teens as a kid who seemed entirely content and at peace with the world, and truly speaking for it, but also had their own personality at the same time. but adults can reflect it as well. I think it's a complete understanding of the self, and being able to separate the animal mind from the self, and see the word in a true way. I've had it in some ways and not others. I've never shied away from seeing some people as entirely animals running on evolutionary instincts and drivers, not in a mean way but a "who's really here" way, and maybe that has something to do with it