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Visual Snow Syndrome
Nemissa · 2023-03-18 09:20
is a fuarrrk to live with, no drugs to induce it, it just happend.
Unsigned · 2023-03-18 09:55
>>67979
Mine's really bad, I feel you. I haven't really found anything that can alleviate it but I appreciate it. I notice for me the intensity of the snow depends on adrenaline and my mental state. Mine's generally just below the point where it becomes hard to read, it makes my visual processing much slower. I've had periods where my VS was stronger than my actual vision. I do think VS is important though, I've found that there's much to see in it, I think you can use it to read energies in people if you know how.
You say it just happened? Any other changes you noticed? That's interesting. For many people including myself it's been lifelong. Many of those people don't realize it at first until they notice other people don't see static, or automatically filter it out so they don't realize, do you think that's a possibility?
Spooky · 2023-03-18 10:11
>>67979
Caused by microwave radiation, chemtrails, vaccination, and maybe some other unknown environmental stimulus resulting in cervical instability and upper neck issues.
>t. had visual snow since maybe 12
Joey · 2023-03-18 12:26
>>67981
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Boris Grishenko · 2023-03-18 12:31
>>67981
>>67984
Really beautiful visuals. Where's it from?
HELIOS · 2023-03-18 12:37
>>67986
First two are VS art from the early days where people were trying to make simulations of what it looked like, second be more stylized of course. 3-6 are from Texhnolyze.
3rd attachment to this post is the original. I edited the prior one because I don't personally see colored rainbow strobing most of the time, unless I'm focusing up close on a monochromatic surface (like plain white) and in a certain state of mind.
Looking at anything distant though, like the sky, I see the grain is actually more of a vortex. See "form constant".
Nobody special · 2023-03-18 12:47
>>67987
eg this first one is actually fairly accurate if I look at a distant point like the sky, there's a black vortex. It's always there, but is made obvious by solid colors. It resembles the arms of a spiral galaxy in a way, but the rotation is actually an illusion, the arms aren't rotating, the grain pattern is just morphing around in a way that gives the appearance of rotation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_constant?useskin=vector
The other interesting this is some of the Texhnolyze scenes depiction a moving distortion pattern that resembles "Alice in Wonderland Syndrome". I read a paper a while ago that hypothesized an association between infections, such as those leading to AiWS in childhood, and VS in adulthood. Though I think neck problems can also cause both, due to poor blood flow, altered CSF drainage, and potentially mild brainstem and cerebellum compression in extreme cases.
J.C. Denton · 2023-03-18 12:53
>>67987
>3-6 are from Texhnolyze.
Thank you, this seems right up my alley, I'll watch it.
> I edited the prior one because I don't personally see colored rainbow strobing most of the time, unless I'm focusing up close on a monochromatic surface (like plain white) and in a certain state of mind.
I agree, I've never seen the strobing myself. Though I do understand that most people with VS see much different things.
>Looking at anything distant though, like the sky, I see the grain is actually more of a vortex. See "form constant".
That's interesting. Is it constant? Can you see the pattern generally, like walls? I find that there's a lot of interesting things to see in the snow but you have to train yourself very hard.
>eg this first one is actually fairly accurate if I look at a distant point like the sky, there's a black vortex. It's always there, but is made obvious by solid colors. It resembles the arms of a spiral galaxy in a way, but the rotation is actually an illusion, the arms aren't rotating, the grain pattern is just morphing around in a way that gives the appearance of rotation.
That's a beautiful description, it almost makes me jealous. The description of the black spot reminds of me of Troxler Fade. I find that when my snow is strong my Troxler Fade kicks into overdrive and if I look in one spot too long, my vision gets consumed by snow until I move my eyes. Have you experienced this? I've looked into this a lot and only found one other mention of this.
Mine is the usual TV static. Looking at distant things like the sky makes my VS more apparent because of the lack of things to focus on, so my eyes focus on the snow "layer". Aside from just the standard static the only fluctuations in it is an "aura" of distorted snow around objects I look at. There's a pretty defined bored. As well, I can see auras around people, it's pretty jarring. I also sometimes see geometry in the snow, but that was mostly when I was a child.
I really appreciate your time describing this, it's very interesting.
One question for the VS havers: Do you have colored snow or greyscale?
I've heard of some people having colored snow which is very interesting. One thread I read even had someone claiming their snow gained color after doing LSD for the first time. However I've never talked to anyone with colored snow.
Linda Lee · 2023-03-18 12:57
>>67988
> I read a paper a while ago that hypothesized an association between infections
read borelia forum with people claiming they got it from that. Now its maybe not the borelia but something else that was also injected with the tick bite. Either way it seems to suggest it is at least in some cases caused by infection.
Haruyoshi · 2023-03-18 13:04
>>67990
I knew there's known overlap between VS and psychotic and dissociative disorders, but I never knew the connection with infections or neck issues. I'll look that up for sure. From what I understood of VS, it's caused by a neurological issue where the brain is less able to filter out "background noise" from visual input. Similar to how space telescopes have to filter out background radiation.
This conversation is making me a bit sad how there's nothing you can really do for VS.
Technician · 2023-03-18 13:24
>>67988
>Alice in Wonderland Syndrome
Wow I never knew that was a real thing. I always assumed that everyone had that happen when their eyes are tired. When I read paper books or look at people at night the "o"s and "a"s as well as people's heads have like a sort of heartbeat to them where they swell and shrink over and over. I guess it never really bothered me because I thought it was normal and knew it was just an illusion.
Also whenever I have a migraine I see something similar to "Tunnels", but I always thought of it more as helicopter blades, since I thought it looked similar to looking at a fast ceiling fan from below. Also the shapes weren't really black, they didn't really have any sort of color at all. I guess if I had to give an impression they were sort of black and white and yellow and red and blurry and static-y and sparkly all at the same time. And somehow all these different textures and colors would overlap but still remain distinct without blending.
>>67991
What kind of neck issues? I have a stiff neck but I had a lot of the weird visual stuff before I had the stiff neck. I wonder if they're still somehow related.
Crash Override · 2023-03-18 14:19
>>67992
>>67991
While there's probably some percentage of visual snow which is caused by direct drain bamage, much of it is caused by neck issues. Namely, poor posture and nerd neck. VSS is comorbid with tinnitus, for instance, of which some 40% of cases are "cervicogenic". If you look at stories of VSS remission online, it seems that almost all of the effective treatments are neck related (or generally promote muscle relaxation, and the neck benefits)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4803736/
A vicious cycle of poor posture can be treated with the use of a neck brace, and a pillow for sleeping with great neck support (such as a buckwheat pillow). I've been doing this for a few weeks now and have experienced great relief from tinnitus, and maybe my visual snow? Not sure about my visual snow, it never really bothered me to begin with, thankfully.
I hypothesize that this explosion of VSS we're seeing now is related to chronic smartphone use. My VSS first appeared during a year in college when I stayed on the PC pretty much 24/7 (doing 4 classes of programming homework, socializing, and hacking for fun)
For a number of people, VSS sets in after a panic attack. I hypothesize that this panic attack really *resets* the brain to a state where it can't ignore visual snow anymore, and it suddenly becomes apparent (although the alteration was there beforehand).
Buy a cheap foam neck brace and wear it when you use the PC. Can't hurt to try.