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There's a massive disconnect between your desires and your higher intellect. You have the desire to eat, for practical reasons, but your body doesn't care if you eat garbage designed to be addictive. All that desire cares about is that those boxes its expecting for "food" are checked. Romance is the same. What I want is to not be alone. There's practical reasons behind it, but ultimately it's no different from my desire for food. Difference is, there's no actually healthy options. For an unlikable person like me, who is incapable of connecting to others, there is no options. It's my personality. I don't have a problem with my personality, it's just not appealing to others. The only possible way to get a woman to spend time with me, would be pretending to be somebody I'm not. I don't want to though. I don't want to socialize. I don't enjoy it. I hate pretending to be somebody who I'm not. I already do that a lot whenever I have to talk to other people. I would have to develop that skill even more to trick a woman into "dating" me. And then just keep putting on a show. For how long? What I really want, is somebody who would be there every time I return home. Somebody who I can be completely honest with, and is always there to relieve my sexual tension. They don't have to cook and clean, because that's not what it's about. They just have to be there reliably, and accept me in my entirety. With a woman, that's impossible. It doesn't matter though, because I desire something that looks like a woman, and checks those boxes. I don't think I'm alone on this. That's the crux of the matter. Everything else is lies and half-truths people tell with because they have no other option and they're deluding themselves, or they're comfortable within the status quo, or they want to save face. They can't argue with the logic.

sounds like what you need is a dog

>>67320 I'm not attracted to dogs. And they're unpredictable.

>>67321 unpredictable? not at all, unlike cats get a doggo, love him, and you'll get unconditional love in return

>>67322 Why are you ignoring the sex part? Dogs only live for like 10 years too. They also can't have a conversation. A dog checks way too few of the boxes. If it was a dog that looked like a woman, I would consider it.

>>67317 >I don't want to socialize. I don't enjoy it dog dont socialize especially >What I really want, is somebody who would be there every time I return home dog can do this >Somebody who I can be completely honest with, dog don't hate u for saying it like it is >always there to relieve my sexual tension. dog can do this >They don't have to cook and clean, because that's not what it's about. dog wont cook or clean. ok alright >They just have to be there reliably, and accept me in my entirety. With a woman, that's impossible. but with a dog, it is possible >>67323 >Dogs only live for like 10 years too ur point being ????? jus get a new dog >ignoring the sex part no u >They also can't have a conversation where the FUARKK does op ask for conversation, >A dog checks way too few of the boxes. dog checks every one of the boxes listed in op >If it was a dog that looked like a woman, I would consider it. ok then you shoulda said it needs to look like a woman but why the fuarrrk do you want it to look like a woman what are you some kinda pervert?

>>67324 I know you're probably trolling, but I'll say it anyway. A dog can't accept you if it doesn't understand you.

>>67317 >but your body doesn't care if you eat garbage designed to be addictive. Who can genuinely say this? If I eat carbs/salt I will feel like soykaf for the rest of the day, it has nothing to do with my higher intellect, I will just feel like death and regret having done it, and my higher intellect will be cursing myself for making it endure that suffering.

>>67320 Absolutely this >>67317 No woman is going to be like that because humans don't behave like that unless they're mentally ill or forced to. Having a conscious person be always at your disposal is a normal, yet stupid desire. Learn to be the person you can always rely on and learn to love and form bonds with people despite them having their own lives. Or build an android slave, whatever.

>>67326 > A dog can't accept you if it doesn't understand you. your picture seems to be tacitly implying that you want a robot, but a robot cant do this either. if you don't want a dog, can't want a robot, I don't know what else to say. u g@y?

>>67332 >learn to love and form bonds with people despite them having their own lives Assuming I'd want to, how? >>67334 >but a robot cant do this either Disagree. I believe humans are nothing but highly complex machines.

>>67335 well show me where I can get a machine more complex than a dog. And I don't mean a slave market.

>>67326 What makes you think people can? >>67335 Let me decompress it for you: grab whatever you can get and care for no more.

>>67317 >I hate pretending to be somebody who I'm not. The massive misconception that you have right here is that you have to "pretend" to be likable, when in fact it's just something you learn. Human relationships rely on the will of understanding each other, and the will of making sacrifices because you care and wish for the person the best just like they would do you. How do you know how everything are lies? Your experience is very limited on this regard, and it sounds to me that you act as if you've figured out humanity as a whole. The way you're describing your "needs" from a woman is honestly disgusting, it is a fuarrrked up way of looking at another human being, and the sooner you get out of it, the sooner you'll stop being undesirable.

>>67335 I typed a better reply but the flood bot keeps bugging me. Basically have a life of your own, one that you are content with. Take time to ponder on your life, philosophy, etc. Do weekly activities that you enjoy and make ypu progress somehow, even better if there's others involved. Could be judo, could be book clubs, whatever suits you. I believe people follow this routines and so now that you have activities of your own, you are in the same place as them. Make time to hang out with friends and family, debate, play games, etc. But most importantly, if you wanna change, you have to WANT to change. That's the little flame no situation can blow away. Best wishes.

>>67363 >in fact it's just something you learn You don't learn a personality. There's me, and there's not me. I'm not kind, funny or outgoing. That's not me. >How do you know how everything are lies? I've never seen evidence to the contrary. Is that one of those convenient, mysterious bits of information that doesn't exist on the internet? >needs You're the first person in this thread who used that word. I'm not allowed to have preferences? >the sooner you'll stop being undesirable I was always undesirable. Even before I thought about any of these things. You're mixing up cause and effect. >>67366 The only change I want is it to be happy. I'd throw anybody under the bus to that end. I go to college. I'm not a neet. And I know what I want.

>>67368 >You don't learn a personality. Personalities are not as is, they are developed, and you're responsible of yours. It just depends if you actually like being who you are or not. >You're the first person in this thread who used that word. I'm not allowed to have preferences? It's not a crime to have needs per se, but you have to re-examine what you're really looking for in another person if you present your preferences like that. >I was always undesirable. Even before I thought about any of these things. You're mixing up cause and effect. This is purely from anecdotal experience anon, but it is just more likely that you're obsessing over negativity to the point of giving yourself a distorted vision of the world. And even if that was true, not having faith in change in the first place is what stops you from obtaining it. Feel free to disagree on that, I guess I do not know your life story in the end.