Assesing mental health (Without a professional)

Anyone know of practical ways to assess your mental state, and determine how normal you are (emotionally, socially, etc) relative to most other people? My first attempt was to be open with my very well adjusted friends, but they all gave me the advice of "talk to a therapist" and "talk about it with your family". While this is definitely good advice, I can't do the former due to my fear of giving anyone but those very close to me information of my mental health, and I can't do the latter as I would simply be piling on to the stress my family already feels. I tried an online quiz to asses myself, but this just made me even more anxious about my mental stability, with the quiz qualifying me as mentally broken. Do you have a good assessment of your mental stability or lack thereof, and how did you figure it out lain?

Forgot to link the quiz I took, sorry! https://moralcrown.com/test/

Why is there a luck component? Anyway, at least you have friends.

How do you guys score 0 on some of these?

LMAO i didn't expect much else. No wonder my future contains nothing besides the an hero event.

>>66268 It found that weird as well, you'd think the luck component would be about starting circumstances (Being born rich in America Vs. Being born in Somalia) >>66269 I'm more surprised you, and my peers, scored so high, especially on the mental. I just assumed what I was missing out in those sections was something felt universally, although that's probably for the best that it isn't. Also re-did my response since it was a month old.

>>66265 The common factor seems to be maturity.

>>66265 (OP) These questions are terrible. Yet another test that is bias and overgeneralized. >>66269 I suspect they're a bunch of angsty teenagers. My results would have looked like theirs a few years ago and I expect my lifestyle and social circumstances to greatly improve in the coming months.

Meh. I dunno about 'moral'- I do crimes and such. I don't harm or betray people though, like I won't do ransomwarez or carding, but I'll still take ur box. As for 'social', it puzzles me, because I do not talk to people right now. I wouldn't be too averse to talking to them, though.

Mentally, you are in a box, a comfort zone. You can reflect on your current or past states as much as you want, and it could give you a good insight, but it wouldn't change the fact that you are doing it from within the comfy box, and thus only see what lies in store of that mental bubble while everything else that is to you is remains shrouded in mystery, or rather not being known of at all. In order to truly assess yourself, Imo, you need to unbecome yourself, to get into a third person mode, get very uncomfortable, then get very comfortable, expand your array of experiences, and then tear all of that apart trying to figure out why are you attracted to loli feet (jk, sorry, you get the point). Be aware, though, this process takes some time, quite a lot of time actually, so if you are not patient and wary of your emotions, you will simply fall for anything that feels good, rather than figure out why it does so, and how much truth there is to it. The single most important thing on this path is, Imo, getting past your ego defences - your irrational emotion regulating lies you tell yourself, in short. Not all people are capable of this, in fact, I've only ever met a few who are, but even then, they weren't 100% sincere still. Presuming you are 'broken', though, your ego is probably weakened, so you'd might be able to get there. Apart from a cold-blooded analysis of self on your leisure, there are innumerous ways of shifting your perspective of the world and yourself in to, unraveling what is normally hidden; talking to a therapist, getting close with new people, physically stressing yourself, reading some philosophy, meditating, creating art, allowing yourself to be irrationally impulsive and tripping on acid - to name a few. For me personally, being in an emotional rollercoaster of a relationship has had that eye-opening effect (Clockwork Orange movie theater scene style...), but I've got lucky, so it's not like the same will necessarily work for you. Also, I think posting about that quiz wasn't a good idea, quizzes overall are soykaf, and linking it here would probably just have people take it and focus on their own results instead of the thread, even if only subconsciously so. >>66279 Speaking of ego defences, I think paranoid tech-secs are simply victims of their own insecurities. "Oh no-o, the joogle's gonna collect my data, no-o-o!!1" What a larp.

>>66280 I despise google yet my results are perfectly fine. Giving up your values because they're a heavy burden is a fast way to become even more depressed.

>>66279 I doubt that that site in particular was going to shoot a browser exploit + VM escape exploit at me for no reason when I temporarily enabled JS. There is nothing sensitive stored on my hot, 'casual' machine anyway.

>>66288 I very much doubt it too, in much the same way as running across a not busy but fast road is perfectly safe the huge majority of the time. In theory there is a danger, in practice several things have to go wrong together to actually get you killed, and you're only doing one of them. Its more the principal of voluntarily using a peice of garbage and tolerating sites that buy into that crap.

I only live waiting for the end.

>>66269 Because not everyone is a normalfаg. >>66279 Most imageboards use at least a little bit of js. This one has 51 scripts.

Not willing to enable js, haven't enabled js in a very long time but the questions were visible so I noted my results. 12/15 physical 3/15 mental 0/15 social 1/15 lifestyle 12/15 maturity 12/15 morality 1/15 luck maybe lifestyle could be 2/15, there is a chance for my life to improve I might enter into a relationship soon because this girl likes me which would then alter my results a fair bit. I won't count on it though. https://similarminds.com/personality_disorder_test.html This site has a lot of personality tests, they shouldn't be taken too seriously but they may interest you. I'll withhold my results for now.

>>66265 https://www.mindtools.com/avn893g/the-holmes-and-rahe-stress-scale This scale will help you see how all the things add up. fuarrrk i posted in the wrong thread

Some of these questions are libtard trash but that's ok. Mogged btw

>>66265 Talking with close friends or family is a good way. Online quizzes can help but they are less trustworthy than talking to someone who knows you well (or talking to a professional). I recommend you try multiple different quizzes from multiple different sites. You also need to do some introspection. For example: >Does you mood change very often? >Do you feel angry or sad almost all the time? >Do you feel hyper happy all the time? (to the point where you almost start hugging randos) >Do you feel emotionally numb often? >Do you always try to belittle or hide it if you do something wrong? >Do you often feel that your friends are going to abandon you? Or that they are planning something bad for you? >Do you do things or cause episodes to get attention? >Do you feel that you aren't completely real? >Do you feel that your environment is not real? How about when you go outside your home? >Do you have a problem with substance abuse? If you drink or use drugs, actually try stopping using them for a while and see if it affects you negatively (it shouldn't affect you at all if you don't have a problem with substance abuse or addiction). >Do you do stupid or reckless or weird things? >Do you actually feel healthy? (If you feel sick, there is likely something wrong) >Do you feel happiness? (but keep in mind that it's perfectly normal to not be 100% happy all the time) >Have you lost interest in almost everything? How about the things you used to like 1-2 years ago? >Can you get enjoyment from something? >Are you functional? Can/could you study or hold a job? >(cont) When you need to do something, can you actually do it when you need to? >If you go shopping, do you usually spend a lot more money than you planned? Do you often spend more money than you should? >Can you actually take care of yourself (and your personal hygiene)? What about the required household chores (cooking, cleaning, washing dishes and laundry) and going to the grocery store? >Do you sleep properly? (I mean that you usually get full 8 hours of sleep and you go to sleep before midnight). Also, it's a bad sign if you require a lot of sleep (let's say more than 9 hours, unless you have sleep debt). >Do you often feel so restless that you can't sleep? >Usually, having extreme personality traits or behavior is a bad sign. (for example, being a hikikomori is not healthy for anyone.) But it's usually pretty hard to reliably use them as a measure, however. I also recommend you start keeping a journal (just write what comes to your mind, it doesn't have to be super detailed).

>>66299 I ended up doing this as well. Physical (1/15) Eyesore Mental (1/15) Broken Social (0/15) Robot Lifestyle (1/15) Outcast Maturity (2/15) Child-like Moral (1/15) Corrupt Luck (2/15) Cursed I believe I'm truly fuarrrked up and perhaps this confirms it.

Physical(3/15) Eyesore Mental(1/15) Broken Social(3/15) Robot Lifestyle(2/15) Outcast Maturity(8/15) Reasonable Moral(13/15) Wise Luck(0/15) Cursed I know I scored really low on almost everything and maybe I'm delusional but I can actually see myself responding differently (to the checks I didn't cross) in the future, I just don't know if its achievable because I failed so often at it in the past and maybe it would be easier if I could have a mental reset only living in the present moment and thinking about the future just to have an idea of where I'm going and maybe the past once in a while to think sure this happened and there's no reason to dwell on it but I can probably work on myself in such a way that it would make me able to get prepared for it if this or anything of the sort were to happen in the future

Idk how I scored so much on social, I hardly have a social life whatsoever. That's firmly in the past.

I would probably have higher marks, but being racially conscious is "bad", "tolerance is good", and liberal morality is the only acceptable worldview still. >Doesn't hate others for their sex, race, or beliefs I hate people who believe hurting animals is acceptable. >Wouldn't harm others if the law didn't apply for a day The world would be a better place without many, many horrid people who have gone without justice. >Has never been in a fight, or has only been forced into them If you wrote "yes", you have no convictions or were lucky enough to not have to defend someone >Doesn't believe they are superior to others I absolutely am superior, in some ways, to some. Just as some are superior to me in other ways. >Hasn't done something others would be horrified to find out about In modernity, one cannot realistically say "yes" to this question -- Going without eating meat would horrify some, sex before marriage would horrify some, waiting for marriage would horrify some. I rate this quiz 1/10 - Too bigoted and liberal.

I give this assessment an F. Dumb questions. No weighting. Poor use of a radar chart, which I would not use at all to describe these results.

>>66346 >Doesn't hate others for their sex, race, or beliefs I think this is more about not having hatred in your heart for entire classes of people rather than having a moral stance that some people's behavior is unacceptable. I agree with what you said though I would say I hate the selfishness, cruelty and hypocrisy that leads to hurting animals more than the person themselves. The vast majority of people are flawed beings. >Doesn't believe they are superior to others We all have strong and weak points, this is/should be more about being able to have respect for other people as peers, not saying we're all equal. >Hasn't done something others would be horrified to find out about Should be trying to probe for dirty secrets and less about what other people think. It was a bad idea to make this question use the reactions of "others" as the measuring stick. They could definitely be reworded. I don't have anything to say about the remaining two, I think you're right.

well part of the whole problem of mental health is just, what da fug is it. If its just a measure of mental / philosophical deviance then its a generally meaningless term. Different peoples are clearly different, healthy Finns are not healthy Scotts are not healthy Sachsens. Globalization really is strange.

>>66352 Healthy finns are either not finns or not healthy

>>66299 I took this one heres the score: Paranoid |||||||||||||| 55% 50% Schizoid |||||||||||||| 59% 40% Schizotypal |||||||||||||||||| 79% 56% Antisocial |||||||||||||| 52% 46% Borderline |||||||||||||| 56% 45% Histrionic |||| 18% 52% Narcissistic |||||||||| 34% 40% Avoidant |||||||||||||||| 64% 48% Dependent |||||||||| 33% 44% Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||| 48% 45% This test is fairly simplistic, dont take it too seriously, but i was bored and felt like jumpint on the bandwaggon. Physical(6/15) Unappealing Mental(2/15) Broken Social(2/15) Robot Lifestyle(5/15) Mediocre Maturity(9/15) Reasonable Moral(5/15) Biased Luck(3/15) Cursed

feeling like a normal person... also text too short

>>66355 These were my results. Paranoid |||||||||||||||||||| 82% 50% Schizoid |||||||||||||||| 69% 40% Schizotypal |||||||||||||||| 66% 56% Antisocial |||||||||||||||||| 71% 46% Borderline |||||||||||||||||| 77% 45% Histrionic |||||| 21% 52% Narcissistic |||||||||| 38% 40% Avoidant |||||||||||||||||||| 89% 48% Dependent |||||||||||| 45% 44% Obsessive-Compulsive |||||| 29% 45%

>>66354 RACIST RACIST RACIST RACIST never met a finn who didn't win!

The fuarrrk these tests are absolute junk... yeah personality is a measure of your pathology amirite? Besides why would I want to base my individual standing on collective extrapolation and statistics? These were more fun when I was mentally ill and dumb enough to not feel like I was being told a bad joke. Lains have a reminder that only you can be the judge of you and fuarrrk the psychology pseudoscience. It's beyond me how that industry still takes itself seriously, wait never mind it's selling pharmaceuticals.

The questions are weird I got a judgemental vibe from this whole test. The person who made the test is weird. His username is "Deus#2611" lmao.

>>66265 the mmpi is used clinically to test the mental state of a lot of professionals. It's derezzed for private use, so I wouldn't be able to post the link here, just know that it's available online and should be able to be found within 20 minutes. Don't mind the stuff about it only being able to be interpreted by psychologists, if you know basic algebra you can do it yourself.

>>66380 >only being able to be interpreted by psychologists what this usually means is that the psych can make up whatever diagnosis he wants. This is largely because psychiatry is a made up science. There is no way to prove someone is autistic, no way to prove someone is depressed or adhd or anything else. There are written definitions, but they are imprecise, overly expansive, and subject to significant interpretation, even if they are followed earnestly.

>>66381 Law is a made up profession. There is no way to prove someone is innocent, no way to prove someone is guilty or liable or anything else. There are written laws, but they are imprecise, overly expansive, and subject to significant interpretation. Therefore, judges can just make up whatever rulings they want.

Strong mental health chads vs virgin loosers

>>66401 I went to psychologist cuz I wanted to get better and self-help soykaf that I was doing did marginally better my life and subsequently she diagnosed me with autism, schizophrenia and antisocial personality disorder. I call it a sigma male disease

>>66390 I quite enjoy this style of reply. There's an unfortunate degree to which you are correct. Both of these systems would be improved if they were made up of honest, intelligent, conscientious people operating without fear, but this isn't the case. Maybe psychology would be worth something if it was done by actual scientists, but its done by larpers who would contribute more to society if they learned to fingerpaint. At lot of lawyers (and many judges are lawyers) could do likewise.

>>66406 My point was that the conclusion -- judges can make up whatever rulings they want -- is completely false, and does not follow from the reasons I listed.

>>66411 criminal legal system is usually much more complicated than psych diagnostic system. Legal system has many parts, someone has to make an accusation, pay fees file paperwork and take it to court, probably there's a judge maybe there's a jury various bits and bobs. For anything serious it will frequently get appealed. Judge is a small cog in a big machine. Legal systems vary many of them clearly do not trust themselves very much and are full of automatic appeals and such things. If your judge is too friendly maybe he gets removed from your case, no longer has any power at all. Psych system is very different. You get to pick your own psych. Diagnosis ? what is a diagnosis. Maybe psych comes and he talks to you, maybe he gives you a survey, some tests or something, maybe he talks to your family or friends. Maybe he does none of these things. Ultimately he sits down and decides that you have or have not something and thus he diagnoses you. This is all he has to do. Maybe he'll write out a letter, but all it is is his opinion. DSM is very vauge but its also non binding, its a diagnostic tool, its not a dictionary, not a rule book. No rule books exist. Maybe if he gained a reputation for being really bad the government would revoke his licensure, but so long as they havent, he's free. On the other hand, a diagnosis is basically meaningless, has zero pracitcal implications, is mostly just a shorthand for explaining and categorization. If you have a friendly psych, he can diagnose you anything you want. Friendly judge cannot generally just convict you of random things.

>>66414 not to imply such legal systems work well, for very clearly many innocents are punished and criminals let free, not to mention the ardurous taxation upon the time of all involved even when the conclusion is 'no crime occurred'; simply that the role of a judge in conviction is somewhat peripheral, whereas a psych is firmly in control of his diagnostics.

Things are not going too well for me mentally since I've had to live the last month alone. My wife will be back in a week though. That will help. I think the big thing affecting my mental status is the fact that I recently concluded that we are witnessing The Singularity happen before our very eyes in real time. It's almost over (for humanity), isn't it?

>>66459 Results for the above post

>>66415 The legal system is an absolute fuarrrking joke, 'guilty until proven innocent' is the new normal. If you don't believe me, go get locked up in county for a few days and witness countless people being abused and mistreated and damn-near tortured when they haven't even been convicted of a crime, many of whom will be found innocent and receive no compensation for their abuse at the hands of the state. fuarrrk the law and fuarrrk the police.