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Do you Lainons have any life goals? did you complete at least one?

All of them (I mean, without going into details like individual programming tasks) except ever knowing love or sex. I feel comfortable programming in a variety of low and high level languages (from C to CL), I have reached real Wisdom™ (i.e. that actually applies to the way you live) and I have maximized the potential of my body (for example, can do 80 pushups on 2 fingers and have okay 3000 m performance). **As you can guess, my brain prefers to focus on what's painfully missing, it doesn't care about what was accomplished,.**

My life-goals are pretty normal for the most part: Be genuinely useful in some way; have a rich social life, seeing interesting people regularly; graduate; have a job that isn't too painful; living with a couple roommates and/or a partner. I haven't achieved any of these “standard” goals yet, but I'm on the way to graduate, getting a job, and I've been seeing a guy for a little over a year who I think I'll be with for a long while. Other than that, I want to live with as much variety in my life as I possibly can. I don't want to have programming as the only career in my life, I want to do something else after ~15 years or so, go back to school on the side. I want to have several phases that are wildly different from one another. Someone that's healthy and lives healthily can live 100 years— that's enough for four “major phases” in life (maybe careers), and enough for many smaller subphases in how you spend your time, present yourself, and interact with people. Chris McCandless was a deeply unwell man, but he was right about one thing: > If you want to get more out of life, Ron, you must lose your inclination for monotonous security and adopt a helter-skelter style of life that will at first appear to you to be crazy. But once you become accustomed to such a life, you will see its full meaning and its incredible beauty.

Yeah, getting the fuarrrk out of here and doing what I'm passionate about.

goal is to not kill myself within the next 5 years. going well so far, still alive as far as i can tell

Only the ones that weren't really good for me or that I'd never publicly admit.

I feel like Ive been working up to formulating one. But for now I just drink beer and do math

I've never had a life goal. Even when I was a kid through young adulthood I never had a clue. I never had hobbies. I never had any idea on where to begin interacting with this world. So I suppose from that the closest thing I had to any goal was to be a NEET. I've achieved that. But I am wracked with guilt and regret. I wish I could have had a life to live. I spend all my time in a maladaptive day dream where I totally leave behind my life and all my family and relations. Change my name and as much about myself as I can and start fresh. It's an insane dream. But maybe I'll be insane from my current life.

Working on scraper projects, looking to visit my gf abroad, paying off some debts, going back to school, and maybe trading a bit.

>>63807 >Do you Lainons have any life goals? No, and it destroys me.

I guess my "life goal" is to secure a nice and comfy life forme and my family. Not much. Stuff like "be an artist" or "become a writer, an athlete, get rich" seem to me too abstract and, honestly, kinda pointless. They seem more like labels for the ego. If I were to say "make some big contribution to mankind" or somehow influence a large number of people or future events also seems far fetched. Sure, my values might be in line with some such goal but I do not hold such ambitions myself. I guess I would like to influence someone in such a way. But that would be a consequence of a more modest goal of achieving a good understanding of that which I do.

>>63807 life goals? idk childhood dreams? yes childhood dreams include: >owning a cool automobile >forming a band and making music >being able to slam dunk in basketball

To obtain a position of high rank that allows me to pursue the unification of humanity. I don't care if I fail, I must try.

The more I browse chans the most disturbed I am to see many people that have no goals or projects and just exist as cynical wasters. And thats coming from me but at least I create things. Goals are important. I fact so important that if you dont have them you are at risk of suicide.

for now the same as >>63819, i wanna gtfo of where i'm at and achieve the bare minimum living conditions a human deserves, then i would have a baseline to grow in the direction i want (mostly programming and related things, i'm happy when i'm creating things, even more if they are useful to more than just myself). I'm not on a good country either so after that the next very big goal would be to get out of the country. >>64403 >many people that have no goals or projects and just exist as cynical wasters. This exact thing happens to me irl. heck, i haven't had a chance to have a meaningful convo irl in a loong while because everyone i met just have no goals nor direction at all; idk how they can be so chill while not knowing what they want to do with their time on earth, i would be full introspection mode in a situation like that

my life goals? i think i had a clear sight of what they were but i am not quite sure anymore. Since highschool i was interested in academic psychology, and i went into a uni, finished it without failing anything under very very bad circumstances, especially the last year, my thesis was written in a very bad place. I did it however and got on top of that. I left some piece of me with that paper though cause i had two major depressive episodes that summer, i had to follow a certain treatment and it worked actually and i felt better and all, i also decided to leave my folks cause they were insufferable since i can remember and since i got my degree i had no reason to stay with them anymore. I changed the city and i found a job and a place, living alone since then. I have a small group of friends that are very loyal as well and some of them ik since i remember myself. we where from the same neighborhood. So i am covered, a house, a job, a degree. But i wanted more, an Msc to start with, a career in psych but all i do now is... ISP contract sales... I started abusing weed, i am stagnating each day more and more, I lie to my folks about by studies i am to ashamed to say otherwise, I have no motivation to chase my dream anymore, it feels as if i am stuck in time.

>>64403 Life eventually makes you settle Also sometimes your perception makes others goals look like soykaf when they really aren't. For example this guy who kept producing awful beats was also creating, but for me he was wasting his time

My goal is to get out of this hellhole and move all my operations some place secluded, warm and with lots of space for me, plus points if i never have to see another human being ever again. In addition i would like to spend my time doing automation work and build robots of all sorts and kinds. My dream would be to live on a remote sunny island and have all my needs met by machines and just tend to a large garden, design machines and get mad stoned every day, all that without having to rely on anyone at all.

>>64048 Would you be open to communication?

>>63807 I wanted to learn about computers and become a master programmer, a hacker. I've learned more than I thought to be knowable well ahead of schedule. I became as competent as I wanted to be years ago, and venture in unknown territory in this. However, the joy from most of my work dies within days of finishing it. I knew it wouldn't make me happy, and it didn't. I'm much more proud of my creative writing, and I oddly believe it to be because it involved others reading it, which is so alien to me. Some stories I've written are still able to make me happy, despite their relative insignificance. I also enjoy having a website of modest size. Now I'm learning Latin. My progress is pathetic, but I know finishing my books today wouldn't make me happy, so it hardly matters, and at least I progress at all, anyway. Latin, however, makes me happy. I want to become fluent and then read the ancient stories. Afterwards, I'll turn to classical Greek.

>>64418 >Would you be open to communication? matrix or irc

Get a job. I completed that but I can't say I'm happy about it. Where I went wrong was mixing society's expectations of me with my own wants, needs, and desires. I wanted a job because I was pressured into it not because of its own sake. Right now, I'm focusing on learning calculus and basic coding because I love science and computing. So those are my goals right now.

>>63816 I'm already partially on my way to this. I decided to quit the NEET burnout life. Since then, I've moved to a new city, got a job, and found my own place. The pay is soykaf but I'm on my own two feet now. Now my aim is to just get enough to live comfortably and that's all that matters.

>>64443 what are those pics about? You keep posting them but they make no sense to me as I lack the contextual information. Could you please link? Thank you!

>>64448 >link https://waitbutwhy.com/2019/09/thinking-ladder.html >A fight like this happens when the two minds agree on what’s important—i.e. they share a common value—but they disagree on the best way to get there. When you’re torn about whether to go for it with a Skittles binge or not, your two minds are actually in total agreement that physical health is of the utmost importance. But in 11,000 BC, where your Primitive Mind lives, there was no such thing as processed food, calories were hard to come by, and anything with a texture and taste as delectable as a Skittle was sure to be high in calories. In other words, everything the Primitive Mind knows tells it that binging on Skittles is the healthiest possible decision. Your Higher Mind, living in 2019, is extremely aware that eating 145 Skittles in a sitting is not the right health decision. And thus, your inner conflict. https://waitbutwhy.com/2019/10/idea-labs-echo-chambers.html >What Idea Labs and Echo Chambers show us is that the Higher Mind – Primitive Mind tension isn’t just happening in each of our heads—it’s raging up and down Emergence Tower, at the heart of both our psychology and sociology. It’s a 3D struggle. https://waitbutwhy.com/2019/12/political-disney-world.html >Back then, we could only see the nation as it looked on the surface. Now, with some more tools in our bag, we can look deeper into the image and see the situation for what I’ve come to believe it really is: an eternal tug-of-war between the nation’s collective Higher Mind and the nation’s collective Primitive Mind. >This is the real political picture in the U.S. It’s not only Right vs. Left. It’s High vs. Low. Forward vs. Backward. Wise vs. Foolish. Value Games vs. Power Games. It’s not only wing politics—it’s also rung politics. Many of our political struggles are, in fact, horizontal. But that’s all in the shadow of the big political tug-of-war. Which is vertical.

>>64450 Thank you, that looks like an interesting read.

I study computer science, i'm soykaf on math and programing, i don't know what the fuarrrk i want, i just want money to drugs and alcohol but i'm poor, my house is fuarrrking stressing and i don't understand my parents that have a lot of childhood traumas, idk i wish that everything will be easy just dying now

>>64403 >>64404 There's just nothing I want to do

>>63807 To never have a job, to escape from situations where people can tell me what to do. Comfortably PovertyFIRE'd and checked this one off at this point. Now is the hard part of finding something else I can care about other than my pleasantly burning hatred of being coerced. >>64403 >>64404 The problem with this is that artificial goals suck. I work on projects I kind of care about but the farther along it gets the more it feels like I'm just forcing myself and would feel nothing even if the goal was completed and successful because any feelings that inspired me initially were only around at all briefly. What's the use of a goal if it's just another confinement? I don't want a goal, I want the ability to act without a feeling of obligation.

>>64471 Just do the art for yourself, man. If you can pay the bills some other way, then stopping now means you are more interested in the money or validation of success rather than the process of creating something (which is fine, too, just don't drag artistic endeavour into it). Show work online or at a local art group if you'd like, but consider even one viewer worth the effort, rather than the thousands and accolades that people take as the baseline for meaningful persuit with social media these days. Every hobby is equally meaningless and unreachable if you hold it to that standard.

>>64548 Maybe a question to ask yourself is if you woke up tomorrow a skilled and talented artist, would you feel happy about it, indifferent, or feel robbed of the process of development? In the first case it was the perceived rewards of developing artistic skill and the impact of getting your worldview out there that you cared for, the middle case making art itself, and the final case the joy of cultivation of artistic skill that is meaningful. Demoralisation requires you to have some expectation or requirement for achievement before considering it a win, and that is within your own control. I'd argue making art for the sake of making art, or to enjoy slowly honing a skill is valid. On the other hand, trying to be one of the greats or propagating your own views beyond a close personal circle is statistically improbable and on to a loser (or, at least making the attempt as you have but not pathologizing a lack of success). Be it for altruistic reasons, fame, money or validation there are uncountable numbers of people trying to outperform the average person's reach, and have been with art and music long before youtubers and tiktokers. Enjoy art for art as a hobby, if you'd like, but you'd get better returns on acquiring an unduely large platform with a megaphone and billboard on a street corner. Else join an art group or support group that your can present your message no matter how amateurishly. You have in your control what element to focus on and get enjoyment from, and by focusing on the more humble elements of a hobby or cultivation you have the best chance of accidentally stumbling on conventional success. I understand it can be demotivating to have something in your head and not feel like you can adequately capture it in a physical medium, but as far as I can tell every artist has that frustration - no matter how good you are you can feel skill-limited if you want to, and the solution lies with choosing not to view your work that way, not with becoming skilled enough you never feel insecure about your work.

>>64838 Good goal! I agree that there is a lot of value in Eastern philosophy as a counterpoint to the modern way of viewing the world that is implicit and otherwise unquestioned. There was a flourishing of Eastern Philosophy in the late 50s to early 70s, Huxley and Schrödinger among them, but a regrettable receding of influence since then. If humans are unchangeably self-interested agents, as some believe, the only way for moral actions to not be second-order effects (such as pack survival correlating to personal survival in the primitive, or maintaining oneself as 'one of the good ones' in the modern ego) would be to redefine what the 'self' one is interested for actually is. Tat Tvam Asi. There's a bit of modern silicon-valley-esque resurgence of meditation as mindfulness, and Sam Harris in particular championing a secularisation of a portion of 'Eastern' world-view, but something about these apps making spiritual development a subscription-based service rubs me the wrong way.

>>64839 >There's a bit of modern silicon-valley-esque resurgence of meditation as mindfulness, and Sam Harris in particular championing a secularisation of a portion of 'Eastern' world-view, but something about these apps making spiritual development a subscription-based service rubs me the wrong way. They are used solely as a form of therapy, to make the world as it is more bearable, a world permeated by capitalistic ideology, thus the common use of meditation as a means to increase productivity, be it professional productivity or personal productivity (do more, consume more, "enjoy" life). This is a subversion of a philosophy that was built to free a human being from what is perceived as essentially problematic and irredeemable (human life as a whole for some, or human experience as conveiced from the point of view of obstructed mind, for others). It's not the case that buddhism sees existance as such as problematic, but the solution against the mechanisms that produce what causes us mental suffering also erode that which now we perceive as pleasure: sense pleasures, relationships, possessions, achievements, the idea of ourselves. The "world" (not the physical one, at least not for now) is a dream-like structure built upon a false cognition that "i exist". People like sam harris have their merits, i think it can be useful for some people. He himself had some training in Dzogchen (a tradition of tibetan buddhism), so he at least had some first hand experience, even if mild. I don't think that as a practice it is for everyone, it is not like christianity where everyone should be saved, the whole world should become christian or whatever. As a teacher of mine used to say, buddhism as it really is only appeals to those who are trully fed up of everything use. But its philosophy doesn't depend on the cultural, religious structure built around it, and i do see some remarkable similarities between buddhist ideas and what the phenomenologists were trying to do, and Wittgenstein. One important difference is that buddhists had thousands of years of yogic knowledge and practice to enhance human cognition in order to see clearly elements of our experience that we are too distracted to perceive, and philosophers only have their minds, but verbal reasoning is too limited.

>>64844 I developed this habit of exchanging words, it's quite ironical actually.

Only goal I could think of would be to solo-dev a game. A decent-sized one too, not just some short game you could pump out in a weekend and get bored of in half the time. I've been wanting to ever since I was 14, played Cave Story, and found out it was made by one guy. It was enough to make me pick up programming and music, but throughout my teens I barely practiced and never made anything worth sharing. For the longest time I beat myself up for it, comparing myself to the indie devs that "made it" and were doing things since their teens, until it dawned on me that my own upbringing was unhealthier than I thought it was. I mean, I was friendless and depressed all throughout youth, but I figured it was my fault just for being an autist. I didn't think my environment growing up was abusive and neglectful. I just thought all kids went through this and I was too weak to handle it. After the epiphany I learned not to (fully) blame myself for not putting in the creative effort most teenagers do. But while the damage isn't my fault, sadly the burden's still on me to fix it. It's been about a year and a half since the revelation and I haven't gotten much better. Sure, I don't hate myself anymore, but I still don't have the drive to create things regularly. Best I can do is a short song (1-2 minutes) or something every few months. So I guess if I really want to make a game, step 1 is clearing up all the baggage that keeps me from making anything to begin with. Don't know if that'll involve seeing a shrink or what. Not that I have the time or money for that.

>>64846 If it's any consolation, in my experience, most people who are driven enough to produce huge works are moderately pathological as well - they just have more to show for their neuroticism. Seek to be mentally well first, and then if you still want to devote yourself to such a poor return-on-investment spending of time (and success gamble) such as solodev that's great, but the reason why the average person isn't so quixotic is because they come from a more objective place and don't seek happiness or validation by proxy.

It seems more and more true that your brain is done learning after 30. Basically everyone whose ever accomplished anything and most of the ones who got halfway to accomplishing something and half of those who never did anything all started very young with their craft. It's just too late to learn anything

>>65808 The oldest famous late bloomers got success in their 60s. Basic bitch giving up is the main issue not impossible. Brain plasticity dying out with old age also has been debunked now. What you need is training. You do nothing your brain atrophies just like muscles.

>>65809 You have zero proof and also there's a point where ethe atrophy is too much. It's pretty obvious you can't just learn new things. I'm 35 and have been a NEET since I was 16.

>>65810 bored pensioners go back to studying and get degrees. youre just another waah waah case.

>>65811 Going back to get a degree doesn't really prove anything though.

>>65811 I love how you've already moved your goal posts and shifted it to just getting a degree as if that means fuarrrking anything anymore or is related to the original point.

>>65813 >>65814 >getting degree is unrelated to learning if the goal was to convincingly prove you got stupid, you did a fine job indeed

>>65808 People get distracted with soykaf like family and kids. It's not a problem of neuroplasticity, people cannot dedicate themselves properly to any major project since they are now obligated to work and deal with their responsibilities. As a kid, teenager or young adult they can and often do dedicate the majority of their time to something. If the kid is educated properly he will be exposed to music, math, science or whatever at an early age. If he start playing piano, doing math, etc. at 8 years old, at 20 he will already have 12 years of practice, and this is A LOT of time. The majority of people don't have this kind of opportunity. Maybe they are too poor, maybe their parents simply doesn't care, maybe both, so they will spend their youth wasting time with video-games and pornography (as i used to do). I only got interested in math at 18, i had to start from scratch and now, 8 years later, with a herculean effort, i'm finishing my math degree with a 3.7 GPA and i feel that i have the capacity of a 16 years old junior MIT student. I finally have money to buy a guitar and pay for classes, so only now i'm having the opportunity to study music. I intend to start my PhD at my 30s and I personally feel that i will peak only after my 40s.

>>65874 It's too late for me. I can't find anything

no i have no goals all i do all day is watch vtubers idk what im supposed to do life needs a better tutorial

>>65881 As i've said, i understand that the majority of people doesn't have this kind of opportunity. You started this discussion talking about how people over 30 cannot learn anything, which is a lie, and your defensive behaviour doesn't help. I also understand that for a set of reasons it's not probable that such people can change, but it's possible to a degree nonetheless. You are not old, you may need to lower your standards but relative to your starting point, you can achieve a lot. Let's say you live until your 70s, you would have at least 35 years to do something. You may not achieve a nobel prize in literature but you can learn to write well and publish a couple of good books, you can become quite proficient at an instrument and work as a amateur musician, you can learn to paint, you can even become a amateur athlete since you are not too old, and this could happen before your 40s, five years is a lot of time. The problem is that besides your apparent disdain for "normal person values", those same values dictates your behaviour since they may be a source of shame. It's common for anons to answer this kind of thing talking about how it's meaningless to study e.g. music if you aren't Mozart, it's useless to study math if you are not Gauss, you were disdaining people who came back to finish a degree ignoring that relative to their life stories, a degree is a great achievement. People want to be recognized and praised and their self worth depends on that, which for me is a stupid way to live. You can do thing because you want, for your enjoyment and for your own development, you can feel pride over your personal story. That given said, 5, 10 or 35 years is a lot of time and it is indeed possible for an amateur musician to discover himself as a quite creative person, composing some original pieces. These stories aren't common because people choose to give up, or they have to due to responsibilities.

>>65887 I could type anything in this box here and you'll continue to respond with unrelated stuff. Why not actually address my post and actually help?

>>65888 Help with what exactly?

>>63807 i've achieved all of my goals, happy new years lain.

>>65808 >It seems more and more true that your brain is done learning after 30. I am 31. I learned a new word last week - consilience. Of course it wasn't completely new, it's connected to old things I know already - the philosophy of science and epistemology, not to mention the english language. >Basically everyone whose ever accomplished anything all started very young with their craft Why not latch onto such a person and ride their coattails? That's who I learned the new word consilience from - CLS. >It's pretty obvious you can't just learn new things. The trick, I think, is to learn old things instead. I can't learn new software, but lainchan is basically just relearning shichan, so I could manage that. Similarly, matrix is just relearning discord. So even if you can't learn new things, if you already know discord, you could make a matrix account too, since that's just an old thing not a new thing. >Nobody took me under their wing to teach me anything. CLS took me under their wing. You know, CLS has pretty big wings, you could be taken under CLS' wing too. We do libre ai stuff. You ever played with https://thisxdoesnotexist.com/ or https://beta.character.ai/? That kind of stuff. It's fun, relaxing. Old stuff not new stuff.

Small and big ones. Right now what I want/need is to change my life, I've been using my intelligence to lie to people about who I am, not going back on what I've said, but I will be all that. By the end of this month I will be living alone and making my own money with freelance, I'm way too handsome to keep being a pathetic neet. And in the future a wanna be a bonafide generalist, learning chemistry, biology, math and all that I feel interested.

People set goals for the year?

my only real goal was to live on my own, to live a hermit lifestyle. moved out and lived in an apartment after a year of working full time.. but the loneliness ruined me so i moved back in with my mom. my only goal was to leave my family, but years later i'm embracing them. since then, i've developed new goals. my health goal is to get 8 hours of sleep everyday. im at a consistent 6 hours. sleep has always been difficult for me. my leisure goals are to get better at DDR, and to play more visual novels, but that's not hard to do, these are things i like doing my career goals are to break into dev management and have a couple investment properties.. but i need to develop stress tolerance. i put an offer on a house and i worry that it was a mistake. as for girls, trying to be bold with girls, i.e. not being shy, if i'm grabbing coffee i'll ask them to join, etc.

>>66470 OP here we have similar objectives i want to acumulate money enough to isolate myself too buy a land in some neighbourless territory in my town surround the place with bamboo (it grows faster and spreads like fire, the clime in my region its propitious too) start to planting rice, coffee, tomatos, onions and mushrooms at first raise mini cows and chickens maybe some koi fish lake participate on regional harvest festivals spend weeks with animals as my only companion work hard all day and play vidyas on my few free moments

>>66858 I thought all these masterpieces were actually created by mental disorders.

>>66873 Surprisingly, no. Creative people are just more prone to serious, chronic disease, and no one knows why. The disease itself benefits them in no way, except mania or hallucinations which can be beneficial. I will say though that ADHD produces interesting effects, very harmful to succeeding in modern society, but very beneficial for someone that loves knowledge and learning about the whole world, one bit at a time.

>>66879 The disease maims them so they can't live as normal people. They try to turn it to use and meaning instead and fight against it. Sublimation develops. It's pretty straightforward.

Getting a new place to live. Also if a civil war breaks out in the USA, I will work to profit from it.

>>66922 I hope you succeed in making a fortune out of the collapse of american society.

>>63808 Very similar situation to yours. I'm alright materially, finacially etc., but the love aspect is non-existent. When I rarely go out and meet people or talk with ones I already know, there are exactly zero options. Every decent one is taken. Approaching wizard's apprentice age. I'm putting off submitting to the machine and trying dating apps...

When I was a little kid, my life goal was to beat Sonic 2. I accomplished that goal at 12. Nothing matters anymore and I live each day like it's my last. I could die right now and be happy knowing that I beat Sonic 2.

>>67107 Is there not a Sonic 3?

>>67107 Sonic was easy, I beat it when I was like 3 maybe 4... I remember I couldn't read well so I memorized the symbols and sentence lengths to go through the menus in 3D Blast. Odd, was I really that prodigious at the vidya gaems... What I remember is Zelda Ocarina of Time. I got to the part in the Deku tree right after you burn away the spider web and couldn't figure out what to do next. I explored the whole tree repeatedly. Dropped it for since months. Then went back and it was like everything clicked, the whole world opened up. Like my brain had not reached the point yet.

>>67113 That's not what it's about.

>>63807 Right now my goal is to land a remote cyber security job asap. Self-studying comptia A+ at the moment.

>>67195 great, I can't stop coming off like an arrogant prick even in the wired, even while trying not to do this

>>67194 are you the guy who posts all the horrible cat pictures and used to talk about like incest or something. If so then I can get totally alienating you. from just this one post doesn't seem too weird to me though. I got the same sort of thing and I get called a n0rmie on this board lol.

>>67198 >are you the guy who posts all the horrible cat pictures and used to talk about like incest or something. If so then I can get totally alienating you. No. I rarely post here, every once in a few months. >from just this one post doesn't seem too weird to me though. I got the same sort of thing and I get called a n0rmie on this board lol. by the apparent standards of this whole chan I'm a normalfriend merely from the fact that I am not a complete shutin and have some friends (both male and female). so I'm sort of a refugee here without the posibility of being granted citizenship

>>63807 I have four goals (ranked by achievability) > Build a family > win a Nobel prize > destroy the flimsy science of economics > transfer consciousness to the metaverse I am 20 years old

>>65808 Your mind is a muscle. If you're a NEET, then take that time to focus on something meaningful and do incredible things. If you convince yourself that there's no hope, then you'll never get the chance to prove yourself wrong. I know you're capable of more than you're giving yourself credit for. The essence of being human is being able to change, so go do amazing things! >>65874 Good on you! Took me until I was 20 to realize the beauty of math. Always keep growing, I believe in our ability to do great things when we set our minds to it! >>65901 who and what is CLS? I want to learn and grow more. > under their wings I never had a mentor, so I became a mentor for others. I have learned a lot, and teaching helps you learn a ton. Along the way I'm helping incredible people go even further! Very rewarding. >>63807 I won't speak of grand visions because I have too many, but in the near term I want to learn machine learning and make a basic assistant, and start a small web design business locally to support myself and my ambitions. I've begun using a planner and habit tracker and read "atomic habits" so I think that with daily consistent effort I'll get a clearer picture of the goals I really want to focus on and the milestones I'll need to get there. Remember lains: hope is frail, but very hard to kill!

>>63807 If this were “post your goals for the week” it would be more constructive and would taste like sushi~

>>63927 same as this guy but band and drawing for me. never been a fan of sports. life goal is to keep getting good at what i do until i drop dead.

>>63807 >Do you Lainons have any life goals? did you complete at least one? Actually, yeah. My life goal WAS to complete my story and then I did like... I think 2 years ago. Bit of an low-ball life goal now that I think about it but at least it was easy to achieve. Now my new life goal is to finish my comic. It's an adaptation of the story I mentioned earlier and you could sort of think of the story as a first draft of sorts for the comic, which I'd always intended to do but at the time I started out I wasn't a very good illustrator and I didn't have a tablet so I put it on the backburner. So I guess you could say now completing the comic is my life goal. Here's a crop from one of the pages I haven't finished yet.

>>73624 >Good on you! Took me until I was 20 to realize the beauty of math. This gives me hope, I'm 24 and went back to uni to get my computer science degree, I always hated maths and literally can't process numbers in my head but only recently I've started to gain an interest in maths and learned that is indeed actually useful and applied in real life, I still can't process the numbers in my head but I try my best to solve problems using logic and a calculator. I haven't been diagnosed officially, but I suspect I have ADHD or Dyscalculia.

I have a Master's degree and I'd like to do a PhD and start teaching. Unfortunately I've been rejected from every doctoral program I've applied for, and even then I can't afford to fund it without external support. Alternatively, I'd like a job but I'm not having much luck with that either. Not dying a virgin might be nice as well, as would making it to the end of the year. It's very difficult to stay motivated when virtually every avenue to progress my life is the decision of someone else. My life has essentially been on hold for 3 of the last 4 years.

I've just achieved all of my life goals this year actually. Though I didn't have any until around four years ago. I just finished college, got a job in my field, and I'm moving out on my own this week. My new goal is to build the best workshop possible. >>73725 Keep on going lainon, all things get hard before they get easy. Motivation is fleeting and life is insecure. All we can do is make the best of the hand we're dealt. When an opportunity comes your way give it everything you've got

I used to look at my dog sleeping so comfortably without a care in the world, one time i thought to myself "wouldn't my life be so nice if it was like a dog's". Little did i know then that such a life was attainable. The future being like an arrow it goes where you look- i have unwittingly worked to excise the paragraphs of ambition, duty, collaboration and reciprocity, honor, determination from my corpus. I now find myself having achieved the livings of a house pet with no other prospect. I speak less every day, nothing's up to me. Such was my goal and i see in human eyes, looks of envy. I know what they're thinking.

>>73725 Yeah it really is like kicking dead whales down the beach. My advice to you is, don't wait for somebody's permission to start your life's work. More often than not they're just looking for someone who already started, so they can come in and take credit.

Yes. No.

I want to be financially stable, get my physical and emotional needs met and have free time to explore and pursue topics I'm interested in. I'm unemployed living off some measly savings, have zero friends, permavirgin, completely alienated from people my age, do not understand how to live, but I do have lots of free time, so I guess I achieved one goal :)

>>76318 No. Yes. No matter how

>>76319 Apply for jobs that require nothing, "fast food jobs", get one and then apply for slightly better job. Rise and repeat a couple times, till in a job where there's upwards movement; be very friendly and likable, make friends with all coworkers. Then you'll get promoted to entry management jobs. Build work friends and job references. Spend free time learning and racking up free tech/Google certifications. Then apply for big management job. In 5 to 10years you'll have all goals met.

>>76321 >moving up from a fast food job Thanks, but not interested in your fantasy of how reality works.

>>76321 Bit of a fantasy. >>76319 Ironically the easiest part of this is getting a jerb and making friends/meeting girls at work. There is a natural comradery that happens in soykafty dead-end jobs, you just have to be somewhat pleasant to be around. Hustling is crap and not worth it if your only aim is to be "successful". Way better to relax a bit. >>73725 >>73797 Grad school, especially PhD, is mainly good because there are few other opportunities to be around other really motivated young people and have an old hand push you to do your best. One thing that I didn't do when I was applying to programs that I really should have done, was cold-email professors that I was interested in working with. With a little more perspective on how the system works I am confident that, if you have good ideas and are really enthusiastic, you can definitely make an impression, and even without being officially a student some profs (especially those close to retirement) will make time for you. -t. currently in PhD at meh-teir public uni and loving it.

>>76324 The only thing worse for a resume then working at a fast food place is being a manager at one. >Oh wow, he's desperate AND stupid

>>76326 Actually the worse thing to have on your resume is unemployed Hikkineet, which is what that poster is at the moment. >>76319 A basic job will get you out of the house, get some money in your pocket, give you something to do other than post on the internet, you'll meet some other people, most of them will be losers but that doesn't matter, they're other people. From there, get a slightly better job, that's what I did, Neet, to unskilled labourer, to call center, to basic data entry/paper monkey, to basic administrative, to IT, to current comfy job. Before that I had worked in retail at some points on and off and had cleaned hospital wards before that, I didn't even interview for the hospital and labourer jobs, I sent in an application and got a start date by text. I'm staying where I am for now and working on a degree part time, its a lot of work but its good for my self esteem and is impressing the bosses Fast food and retail are rough but doable and easy to get, supermarket is better, janitor is decent, all these jobs are always looking for people and don't expect you to have much skills, just turn up to the interview in clean clothes, clean shaven, and showered, and you'll probably get it. If you really don't want to deal with people or are feeling anxious about being perceived poorly that's understandable and completely natural, but it will fade with time, if you really struggle with it you can get nightshift work where you don't have to interact with anyone other than maybe the two or three other zombies on the shift stacking shelves or patrolling a building

>>76329 If I wanted to be a wageslave again, I'd just get another remote dev job, but I'm sick of working for a living. I have no interest in the rat race or sucking up to bosses and my normal user co-workers for "self-esteem". No clue how you people work your ass for a decade just to end up in the office 9 to 5 and think its the pinnacle of existence.

>>76339 OK, continue to enjoy sitting in your bedroom alone, living off of dwindling savings and NEETbux, whining about being isolated from society while sneering at things that would let you reemerge into it and dismissing advice from people doing better than you. Join a fuarrrking boardgame group or something,

>>76343 And you continue giving unsolicited advice and assuming everyone wants to be the same NPC drone like yourself :)

>>76339 >>76343 If manageable, it's literally better to enjoy the present then to have any expectation of enjoying the future. Even the "standard" is pathetic: "Work hard now so you can enjoy life when you're 60 and your dick doesn't work." But in the current system, depending on where you are, there's not even the expectation of retirement. The options given to people who aren't born with rich parents aren't realistic or even tenable. Most people would literally rather be homeless, because it's more rewarding. That's an extremely deep pile of kaf our society has blundered into. >b-b-but if you work hard, you too can own a business and be a millionaire! The chances of that are so unrealistically slim it's hilarious that it's even considered an option, akin to telling someone, "Why not just be born with rich parents lmao what're you dumb you should have just picked rich parents, obviously." In the USA we're either living in manufactured, intentional strife, or the people running the show are so obliviously fuarrrking stupid there's no hope for the future anyway. Soykaf rolls downhill.

>>73725 I made it to the end of the year, at least

This thread has been up over a year. I still have no goals in life. I just feel empty. I hate being alive.

My whole goal is life has always been to buy land in my homeland and save it. Protect it. Keep it from being destroyed and turned into concrete and plastic. Save some wildlands. Piss off every tourist and land "developer" from here to China. Since I assume you all know how the land market has gone since the lockdowns....my dream of becoming the next Baxter is pretty much dead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percival_P._Baxter

>>63807 Get Toyota Hilux or Landcruiser

no, never really had any life goals or dreams.

Find a woman to love and marry - check Murder a russian - check Murder a politician - todo Land a commit to the linux kernel - todo

>>76607 are you a soldier or just a psycho who thinks he's Napoleon?

>>76363 sounds like a nice ambition. I am somewhat wishing the same, but I might need to follow some of >>76607 's checklist to do it. Especially the middle parts and probably not russians.

At the moment, my life goal is to establish a solid career in IT as a sysadmin and someday buy my own home somwhere rural where I can build my own DIY backyard telescope. Maybe I'll have a family, but I'm not ready for that yet. I like things to be simple, but comfortable. Personal problems have led me to waste a fairly big chunk of my 20s not advancing my skills, but that has improved over the past 3-4 years. I buckled down and started to study more and got a couple certifications which was a big deal to me. I've always wanted to work with computers since I was a kid, but I've always had trouble concentrating. There are so many different areas in IT, that it's just overwhelming to me and I don't know if I need to know this or that. For the time being, I may need to find a temporary soykaf job and continue my studies in my free time until I can get my foot it in the door.

>>76611 >im not ready for that yet thats the sort of attitude that leaves you in a worse place later if ever you change your mind. If youll ever want to do this (or anything) get working now and dont put soykaf off

>>76608 Just a dude who got handed a rifle at one point. Stupid cunts came to fuarrrk up my home town and got fuarrrked instead. Felt like revenge for half of my family tree being murdered by some of their fuarrrking regimes. Funny thing is when things "normalised" normal people like me werent asked to join the action at the front. Gotta care for the population pyramid i guess.

I want to ascend, and I feel like I am slowly getting there. I know that by pursuing this goal I may end up failing in many other "objectives" of a mundane life, but I am willing to take the risk. It is especially trying now that I am at an age where pretty much every one of my friends is married and working on paying off their new home, and I have so many chances to be one of them. But I rejected those chances by choice. I am on this path and I will follow it to the very end. I am dating a person and at many times, she's more of a hindrance and a distraction than anything, and my job is merely a means to an end. But all this is secondary to my chosen ultimate path. Ascendence. If I end up being an unmarried childless loser, it will be because I made this choice many many times across my life, and I am okay with that.

>>76675 what's "ascending" mean in this case?

Making a million dollars in order to be financially independent before I'm 30 and spiritual tranquility. I'm about half way there on the financial independence goal and am spiritually on some kind of buddhist path. I recently decided to visit my local Bon Temple and will be going there every week starting in January after a new years trip. Long term I want to be creative again, I used to do film photography and I'd like to get into web design too. Specifically I want to make web 1.0 and 90s/early 2000s looking websites focused around various hobby interests I have. My work grind has destroyed my creative and intellectual abilities, it's awful, but the end of the road is near. I don't need to be loaded, just enough to ensure a lower middle-class existence for me and my family into the future on land that I own. Oh yah, that's another goal. I want to start a family with at least two kids, ideally more but I've got lots of mental health problems so we'll see how much stress I can handle. I'm only going to have as many as I can actually provide for.

>>63807 https://t.me/anime_is_rael

>>63851 I resonate with a lot of this except I did have a few hobbies, but I just stopped caring about them, or rather about most things really.

I want to buy an apartment an then live abroad. I don't care which country it is so long as i can work as a software developer. The apartment is in case soykaf goes wrong, so i don't come back to my country with empty hands. Also financial independence and time to think about and pursue my hobbies. >>76772 Good luck soldier.

>>76772 Make a webull account and invest in SCHD or other safe and stable ETFs. Not kidding.

>>76772 >lots of mental health problems >wants to have children >thinks a million dollars is "financial secure" Don't. Incredibly cruel and selfish. Youre not fit to have children. It's sad but you need to try to realise this

>>76794 Well, having children is a selfish desire, so I think he is actually fit after all.

I exceeded all my goals. A few years ago I was sure i would be dead by now. I feel like my life is already over and nothing matters now. But im still here somehow. Now that things have changed so that i can survive, I find it so hard to shift my perspective toward actually planning to be alive in 5+ years. It kind of feels bad to do that because it places burdens and pressure on me.