How do I stop??

Probably a weird topic to talk about. Sorry for the long post. Topic: Porn and the effects of porn Anyways, in the past few years I've been watching quite a lot of porn, masturbating 4-7 times a week, which isn't normal at all. Lots of people say that porn does not affect your brain much and that it's "not that bad". Well it fuarrrking is. In the past few years, I've noticed lots of change. NEGATIVE change. Here are some things that I've noticed: - fuarrrked up dopamine system; I was depressed for quite a while, nothing would motivate me and nothing would make me happy at all. I'm 99% sure that the cause of depression was porn and masturbating. - ability to study; studying used to be easy as fuarrrk, I could learn anything in school without any effort at all. Right now I can't learn soykaf if I'm trying to. - problems socializing; I have lost my confidence and it's sometimes difficult to socialize with people. - slower in general; some daily tasks seem difficult or take longer to complete - Porn > Actual women; I've read about it a lot and it makes sense. When you abuse porn, the pictures/videos get you off more than the actual woman, due to the dopamine rush you get on porn. And many other things that I forgot while I was writing the ones above lol I'm not gonna lie, I'm quite fuarrrked. Coding is difficult because I can't come up with any ideas or I end up being too lazy and unmotivated to do it. It's hard to focus as well. I'm sure there's lots of people like me, I'm trying to tell you that you MUST STOP It's not bad if you're watching porn once in a few weeks or so, but if you're abusing it like I was, not good. What I tried doing to quit =========================================== I've been hitting the gym, a lot. Meeting with friends and doing lots of outside-activities. I was on exactly 2 weeks without porn. I felt great, I felt actual progress. I noticed some change in my brain. Then I decided to do it once, after once there was twice, the 3rd time, the 4th time, and I got back into the cycle. I'm writing this, because I know that I have a problem. But I'm sure I'll be doing the same thing today, tomorrow and the day after. It's hard to quit. What the fuarrrk do I do?

You can think of this addiction / mental strength as going to the gym. If you dont go to the gym and train your "strength" regularly you will again quickly become weak. You dont become ripped by going once to the gym. Mental strength doesnt come from just "seeing some friends" one time. You have to get in the habit of forcing yourself to do things you perceive as healthy and often "painful". These things are not actually that bad, but your addiction-phobia makes it seem difficult to be normal. So try again and again. You cant get better if you have this mindset that it will happen in one day and then discouraged after the first relapse. The first step is to be self conscious of what you are trying to do every single day. You need to keep your goal on your mind when you are on the bus, when you are having dinner or whatnot. If you forget it you will watch porn again due to conditioning. And im sure youre aware of this but in parallel of trying to quit go out and talk to real women irl ASAP and learn to handle rejection and keep exercising and eating un-processed food. Get yourself a wingman online and start hitting events , bars , or outside. Once you start regularly interacting with the opposite sex , or especially when you get laid , you will feel less need for porn. And you will also feel more confident and less turned on by being the inferior "watcher". Keep improving in whatever area of life you can not just porn consumption. If you are UNWORTHY of the opposite sex ( poor, low IQ job , ignorant , no self discipline , fat and bad physique , socially submissive ) then fix that or you might as well log out of life.

>>60042 https://www.healthyplace.com/sex/sexual-addiction/diagnosing-and-treating-pornography-addiction https://www.healthline.com/health/pornography-addiction#causes https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/utilization-emdr-treatment-sexual-addiction-case-study https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/porn-addiction https://socialwork.utah.edu/interaction/posts/2018/all/pathologizing-porn-the-role-of-social-work.php

OP your post is faith there's nothing wrong

Lately I've been jerking off daily I realize it's a bit too much But I don't make a thread about it.

Stop being a self-hating little puritan and accept your humanity already. Pleasure is the true meaning of life, there's no shame in seeking it. Discard the unnatural teachings of the Jewish sects and embrace hedonism.

Hi, I've abused porn since I was a teenager. I'm in my mid-20s now. Probably the only negative effect I've felt is that sometimes I don't use enough lube and it hurts my dick, and if I jerk off way too much (like more than twice a day) my hands start to hurt. I have in many ways accomplished everything I wanted to in life, I have a girlfriend (who can't keep up with my sex drive), lots of healthy friendships, I find my work interesting. I'm still a sperg but I have more social skills now. I have sometimes gone for long periods without porn, but I find it very hard to go more than a few days without masturbating. When I try to quit masturbating and can't have sex with my gf I find myself consumed with horny thoughts 24/7, it it very difficult to focus. I also have an alcohol habit (started in grad school -- self-destructive habits are very normalized there) and I think it's worse than porn. I can feel it dulling my mind, and it's a lot harder to stop. And when I'm drunk I always figure "might as well watch some porn now."

why do we internet dwellers call ourselves bugs ? the male sex organ makes pheromones with much greater complexity when we care for those things we facilitate symbiosis across the full coronum of viruses as well as bacteria ! feel no shame , but do train your enteric vascular system such that your pheromones give healthy signals to girls such that girls in your life don't go crazy or worse . do blame yourself iff she does , but do not let her blame you , since she could give your organ the training iff she knew how !

are you sure porn is the cause of your problems and not merely another symptoms? i personally find myself using porn much more when i'm stressed or my mood is kinda down

>>60042 aside from > Porn > Actual women; I've read about it a lot and it makes sense. When you abuse porn, the pictures/videos get you off more than the actual woman, due to the dopamine rush you get on porn. everything you described sounds like depression/anxiety, including excessive masturbation. it's a symptom not the cause. > I've been hitting the gym, a lot. Meeting with friends and doing lots of outside-activities. I was on exactly 2 weeks without porn. I felt great, I felt actual progress. Of course you did, these are literally a couple of the best habit changes for dealing with depression/anxiety. If you want to stop masturbating, you do you, but don't let yourself believe that it's a cure all for all your poor mental health right now, because that can lead you to just becoming more depressed when the cessation of your masturbation doesn't fix your all your problems.

>>60048 all should take such notions much more seriously

>>60050 One must differentiate the miracles of one thing from glutinous wasteful neglectful greed

>>60052 >>60051 >>60050 >>60049 >>60048 >>60053 OP, Dont mind those botnet reddit posts pushing for the PornAgenda.

>>60051 >I've abused porn >I jerk off so much my dick/hands hurt >I drink too much and when I drink I watch more porn >>60049 >I jerk off too much, I'm just quiet about it >>60053 >OP porn probably isn't the root cause of all the problems in your life, it's probably a symptom >>60057 >lol ur all just bots pushing porn literally bot levels of reading comprehension

>>60057 Revu kaj Preĝu por ni . . . "Agenda" LOL

>>60050 I agree that here's a point where worrying about your "addiction" doesn't make sense. I used to be a rebbit tier epic nofap man, then found that I felt much better all around once I stopped beating myself up about it since I only really jerk it when I have nothing else to do and don't actually have any "symptoms". That being said, 3D is PD. Not just on a beauty level, being in a relationship is like kicking dead whales down the beach in general especially if you're a thirsty nigger who just wants to fuarrrk. Quitting porn solely for women is one of the most pathetic things I can think of, only topped by failing to do so.

>>60060 You are a genetic dead end touching yourself infront of a plastic screen.

>>60060 Youre mixing up issues which leads to false conclusions. Beating yourself up over failing some target is a separate issue and its good to discard that mentality but its unrelated to the effectiveness of the goal. As for nofap it should be actually called nonut and its not done to get laid, its done to rewire the brain and you actually arent allowed to fuarrrk either because as said - ejaculation is forbidden to make it work. I think to make it really word you should be actually 100% no fun allowed because there are alternatives to sex giving close to same levels of dopamine hits. So following the nonut logic to deprive dopamine hits from nutting shouldnt be sufficient if you just replace it with drugs/gaming. (theres a chart and especially hard drugs beat sex)

>>60061 This isn't reddit or nupol, you're not going to offend anyone with weak bait like that. >>60062 >its done to rewire the brain What for? Real question.

>>60063 data collection and ads...literally every big techs sales model where attention = profit

>>60062 >>60060 You both made the same mistake regarding false conclusions . Unless you discredit disdain to disparage slavery, then your conclusions lead into closing information loops rather than restoring or preserving experiential messages . . . . . . ( chimering ) . . . By avoiding orgasm a person resists dopamine , the result is almost purified oxytocin intake , rather than a complex signal or message . If it is a complex message , why not say something good ?

I'm with you Lain. I also want to quit for some time but keep going back. And sure, it doesn't have to be an addiction and there is nothing wrong with occasional porn watching just like its fine if you have a drink from time to time but if you are getting drunk every day it means that you have a problem. So it all depends how you deal with it. For me I can see that I usually do of put of boredom and spend way too much time on porn sites than just to fsp and be done with it. Also I have a lot of problems with focus, concentration, learning new stuff and just living differently than some basement hidden wanker. There were times when I saw that I preferred to go back home and fap than to spend time with people, even sometimes when I was meeting a girl and that's not healthy at all. So I hope that you will succeed Latin and get your normal life back

>>60042 https://easypeasymethod.org/ I'm surprised this hasn't been shared here yet. It's kind of weird and confusing at first but it has helped me.

>>60063 >What for? Real question. To restore original motivation / attention which allows you to go back to working on "boring" tasks effortlessly. fapping,drugs,... constitute easy high reward tasks. Longterm use fries dopamine receptors as brain adapts to the constant flooding as the new default state which makes concentrating on difficult tasks harder since now its perceived as punishment as they give you less than your new normal state. So the whole fasting point is to reset the default state which changes the perception of the same work from negative into positive. A bit like get a fatty living on cake&coke on no food for a month and he will love a bland piece of breadth like its the best thing ever.

>>60069 Makes sense. Guess I'm not that far gone then, I don't have those problems. When I was into nofap I once went 5 months without orgasming and didn't feel any different. >>60067 I've tried this in the past as well, didn't help me any more than the "willpower methods" that it trashes. If anything it helped less since I never got past a month on easy peasy. YMMV though, I have seen lots of people praising it.

>>60042 I started masturbating and watching porn when I was like 7 and I don't think it had that much negative effect on me. I'm not addicted and actually I'm kinda bored of porn at this point sometime I jerk off to pictures instead. I do it 3-4 times a week and I would do it less but I get wet dreams if I stop for more than 2 days.

Sounds more like you just have ADHD not a porn problem.

>>60042 need sex with someone, but people just want to masturbate with each others bodies, and they will fool themselves and others to do it, and call it flirt. need somebody who gets me to communicate their appreciation for my beauty in transparency and honesty, no games of mirrors and shadows, so i can communicate my appreciation for beauty of particular humans in the language of sex. But nobody gets it this way, only either debauchery or monogamy, both lies. Is there real sexual friendship in this world? happened to me once, still on it, lets see...

>>61894 m/f ? post contact _--------- adding random words here because of retarded short body policy on this stupid site

>>61904 my friend, we are far away

This thread was originally here a few weeks ago, then it disappeared. I believed it was deleted. I uploaded books and an infographic all regarding Brahmachyra. I also posted links and provided a PDF of the Catholic book "Libido Domiandi" which serves as a narraive history of sex used as a form of political control (despite the books faults). When I went to see if I had replied the next day, I no longer saw this thread (even in catalog) but instead saw a new thread with the subject line "How to find people to fuarrrk?" (>>61484). Now this thread is mysteriously back, and I see none of my original posts in the thread. What is Appleman doing?

>>61916 i just vented out, i am not looking for people to fuarrrk,i said it here because i remembered my severe porn addiction, i guess i went off topic

>>61916 I'll post them again https://nofap.com - A Western Gamification of Sexual Continence, providing a 3 Month Challenge "Gold Standard" and also serving as a community and collection of resources. https://easypeasymethod.org - An analysis of Porn, Masturbation, and a very good pratical method of stopping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gk4lW1hPo - "Your Brain on Porn Animated Series", an infographic animated five part series serving as a summary of the book of the same name, and a subsequent supplemental website which anylizes the bio-neurological effects of pornography on the human brain. Attathments: "Practices of Brahmachyra" by Swami Sivnada. This book serves as an explanation and guide to the Hindu practice of Brahamchyra, written in 1932 by Swami Sivnada, a Brahman who not only remains alive today but has lived to 130+ years. Brahmachyra is the transmutation of passion itself into the noble persuits. In this book you will learn that there are two basic urges that the human body has, the urge to reproduce and the urge to eat. By strengthening the will to control them (not through repression, but transmutation) you will aquire grand powers of spirit. "The Coiled Serpant" by C. J. van Vliet. In this book, written in 1939, the author makes great care to quote experts, philosophers, doctors, scientists, and other men on the benefits of sexual continence. in a number of chapters pertaining to each subject. He anylizes the symbolic belief of ancient man and the Serpant, where the coiled serpant represents sexual energy being misused (a phallic symbol) while the uncoiled serpant represents overcoming of the sexual urge (representing the spine connecting the base of the body to the head). Libido Domiandi is a book written by the Catholic Professor E. Michael Jones. In this 600+ page book (PDF has poor OCR, sorry), Prof. Jones provides a narrative history (with a heavy Catholic bias) showing how sex has been used to politically control populations. He begins with a brief discussion on the philosophy of Illumanism leading to the Enlightement, goes into the French Revolution, speaks of the Vidtorian Era, speaks of Sexual Liberation in Post-Revolutionary Russia, and goes all the way to when the book was written in 1999. Despite its shortcomings, its bias, its oftentime redundant and poor writing, and its often times wandering from its central thesis, it serves nonetheless as a wonderful narrative history for the beginning of further research and the establishment of a greater context for many famous works.

>>61920 This is an image from a book I do not have summarizing what the Brahman believes for physical rewards from Brahmachyra. Not. A>>61920 . Flood

>>60042 Just turn 25 after a decade of fapping to all the big tits creampie porn you could possibly find on the internet since middle school, including all the vintage retro stuff from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's etc. You eventually just get bored of it and what used to multi-hour fap sessions daily become 5-10 minute quick jerk sessions, with the multi-hour fap sessions as a treat for rare occasions like on some day you feel unusually horny for some reason.

>>61916 I haven't touched this thread or your post. I am ignoring your Rule 6 violation, but next time, please direct your questioning to /q/.

Facing same problems as you OP. We are gonna make it.

So how do you cope when you're a virgin stlll with high libido? Beating it is the only way to not go mad, for me; and I've done 2 week long hiatuses, did nothing except get me closer to wanting to die (maybe an improvement, though).

I'm certain that all of your problems stem from porn and not some failing within yourself that you have the opportunity to fix at any point in time. I'm certain it's not just an excuse for your own failures.

>>60042 I'm not sure how to help any given person quit entirely, but I will say that I have almost completely lost the desire to view porn, not because of anything moral or for my own good, my interest has simply waned. I personally believe it is in part due to an addiction to prostitutes that I had developed. I met with quite a few and it started to get to the point where I simply enjoyed each visit less and less until it felt almost like a chore... From then on watching porn kinda felt the same way most of the time. Occasionally there is still the urge, but I can go weeks now forgetting about it entirely. Not sure if this information offers you anything of value, but it's what happened to me.

Internet use fuarrrks up the dopamine system far more than porn, at least in my personal case. In fact, I would urge OP to re-evaluate many of the points made as possibly caused by internet use in general. Also personally as a weird hermit, the trappings of relationships as well as everybody being a crazy, affliction-prizing fat makes porn clearly superior. Nevermind the awful digital surveillance meat markets. Being mad in a sick society, modernity, yadda yadda. This post was written worse in order to conform to the 'good post' filter. :)