Tips on raising kids?

>Be 22 >Have one 12 years old little brother and one 9 years old little sister >Heavily abused as a kid >Find out drunk mom abuses little bro sexually >Won't go in detail but it's pretty bad >Dad doesn't do soykaf about it >Have lawsuit ready and loads of evidence, mostly audio recordings. >Don't want parents to go to jail or an hero because the kids are traumatized enough >Currently writing a contract to blackmail parents into submission (they're filthy rich) so I can live with my little siblings Do you guys have any advice?

>>58833 I'm not a parent, but I was a summer camp counselor for a couple years. There are two things I noticed during that time. Kids love to bargain, if they won't cooperate, try giving them multiple options to choose from. This will give them a sense of responsibility for the thing you want them to do, they chose this after all. You can only be as strict as you are loving, if you aren't loving enough, the kids won't love you back, if you aren't strict enough, the kids won't respect you. Parents are often held back by their pride, and tend to underestimate their child's abilities. It's entirely possible your parents will refuse to accept your proposal because it would hurt their pride to be bested by you.

I met a guy when stopping by in NYC (am a euro user) to visit an old relative, and going to the bars there solo. This man took me on a night out to smoke some blunts and visit other bars. It was fun, the guy was around mid 40s and had "worn out expensive clothes" look, being pretty badly kept looking like a homeless rich guy. His leather shoes especially were completely worn out, so I said "what are those shoes you can do better man" and he just said "I know I know".. eventually he told me his story and why he was living alone in NYC, and why he was so rich yet such a mess. He said something like(from my drunk memory) "My parents were not nice people, they did some very horrible things. And it really destroyed me, etc. When I was an adult I sued them and won the case, they had a lot of money so I basically became rich". But since he was still, traumatised and internally broken, this man lived on his parents "compensation" doing drugs and getting drunk by himself, basically unable to function, but happens to have a house and worn out clothes which I assume kept him from becoming a completely dehumanised "homeless case" person. You gotta wonder how many of these homeless folks went trough something similar, unheard stories All I can say is yes yes go for the cash, thats what I would do personally anyway people cant keep getting away with being disgusting and evil, but if you're not OK in the head than thats probably priority nr. 1, if you are still mentally unable to cope then that needs to be fixed. Personally I will say that standing up to parents or abusers is taking responsibility for yourself and as such a good thing(including getting revenge), but given this example it obviously is not going to cure everything, some of your demons may be from within where you may not realise.

Hat's off to you, lainon. Really, you're doing God's work on earth. But also God's work is almost unbearable, remember that.

>>58833 >I am writing a document prooving that I am making an illegal activity Why? Blackmail them. What is the point of the document? To take them to justice if they don't do their part? If you have a written proof, they will try to get a copy and use it as a leverage against you. You won't be able to blackmail them or to get them in a court if you have a paper.

>>58843 I have very good evidence, in case the deal is off, I want to be honest about the whole blackmail thing, every meeting covering the contract will be recorded. It's the only way for my parents not to go to jail,if they do it'll fuarrrk up the kids even more, my brother is 12 an my sister is 9 I cant deal with this soykaf jesus christ

Thank you guys btw, every answer has been very helpful

I was sexually abused by my mother when I was little. My sister didn't care for me and she worked with my parents to frame me. They worked with the government to frame me. It's in Belgium. I don't have evidence much, I'm just glad I'm by myself now, at 30. They are still framing me because it's scandalous. I was heavily mutilated as well.

>>58850 me The government organizes nazim pretty much. They spread defamation with presentations from what they organized with the framing.

>>58848 If you are doing this with written and recorded proofs that you are doing it, for your own safety talk to a lawyer before. He won't rat you but he will tell you how to not end in jail, and he will probably tell you how to blackmail them legally: by settling it to avoid a judgment.

>>58850 me >>58851 me Important to note: in my development they induced trauma in relation to my privacy and such. I certainly didn't attempt to gather any evidence. That was done to me.

>>58850 me >>58851 me >>58853 me The entirety of government (such as police, doctors) organized framing, fraud, to suppress child sex abuse scandals. This is what politicians do in secrecy here in Belgium.

OP here, bad news. In my country, a therapist break the vow of silence an report to the police in situations of child abuse. My siblings need therapy in order to recover. If you want to apply as a foster you have to be between 25 and 65, I'm 22 and if I'm not the one raising them they'll be placed in a random foster home. What do I do ? I'm freaking out

>>58854 Goddamn qtards, go home. Even lainchan is infested with this vermin?

>>58857 Stay safe, wait it out. Work on your case. Have a case and settle maybe.

>>58859 I don't want the kids to go in a random foster care, french fosters are all rapist and criminals.

>>58860 Maybe your best option is to wait another two years and change for you to turn 25. Also please please please talk to a lawyer. They may be able to advise you of some exception to the rule, since you are related after all.

>>58858 It"s real and that's I suspect a psy op. I'm trying to bring up truth. >>58860 Your government doesn't give a soykaf.

Governments want to be developing this cutie. They have money and they want some. https://y.com.sb/watch?v=n0IVhCRlyj0

We don't live under democracy. What is unethical is secret. What is secret gets no democratic treatment. "Democratic" governments compensate for it with "sham" presentations. I suspect Trump's "fake news" stems from this reality. Some know about secret stuff. It's exclusivity madness. We get to perceive a controlled part of reality here in the west, and sham soykaf. Good luck with your situation anyway.

>>58864 He know. We must kill him.

>>58868 "Democracy" just means people get to vote. It doesn't mean equality, freedom, access to information or any of that other stuff. It doesn't even mean everyone gets to vote. We exclude persons under 18, and criminals. Some previous societies excluded half the population for being female, non-whites, even adult men who weren't landowners. These were still democracies even if only 10% of the people were electors.

>>58872 Exclusivity is inherently undemocratic. The word means what it means. History is what it is?

>>58874 But that is not what it means. That's what people think it means, based on how they think the world should be. I agree that it should be but.... the original greek meaning was basically citizen rule. Citizens were adult males who owned property, a small minority within the total population. These are the people who coined the term democracy.

>>58876 That's history. But that's pretty much those in power decide on who is in power. Like China.

>>58857 Gain enough leverage over them that your siblings can live with you illegally, and they can't act on it without you destroying them.

It's basically same as being a good friend but with more responsibility on helping someone make good decisions on their own and only stepping in if it's some dumb soykaf that will likely lead to death quickly or at least prolongued hospitalization.

>>58857 Do you have friends within the age bracket that could foster them in the meantime?

Do the right thing. Send them to jail. I know it’s not ideal, but you must do what is right.

>Got ghosted by cousin that was supposed to be foster family >My little siblings don't want me to go to the police anymore This is a fuarrrking nightmare, I'm the one getting kicked out of the family because I found out my parents are rapists and wanted to do something about it. This is bullshit fuarrrk this clown world

>>59158 Your mistake was trust in government.

Police are criminal organization who frame child sex abuse victims.

I WAS going to say you should've automatically beat your mother's head in with a brick, but then I heard you were potentially from a more 'trad' (rich) family and sophisticated family. Idk, I was abused by my mom's boyfriends after she fuarrrked over my schizophrenic dad with his best friend who is the father of my younger siblings Sorry for the blog post, I am intoxicated bit that's no excusemy advice . Your >they will be more traumitised Is wrong (imo). It's like a band-aid, when they are all grown up and soykaf will they appreciate a full childhood and adolescence of molestation sexual degenerate rape or will they like more the seperation of the family (who they will realise are scum when mature probably (dad too, dickhead allowed it)). But of course if you know your fancy sophisticated soykaf and your 'blaclmails' them go ahead, just keep ini f mind.that they may be more xp than you, and you should do 100 100 "X times" calculations before you act if it's sophisticated bullshit Ur in Sorry dor the rble I'm part Scottish and Irish colonist , this sounds se

>>59158 >Oh woe is me, people don't think we should Calle da guards and I don't know what else to do besides 'da gubermint' surely I can't take actions into my own hands and surely waht is morally right isn't wortg what is the laws made by HUMANS that they them Self claim are LITERALLY EQUALTOME

>OP you should not trust police! Take matters into your own hands! If OP doesn't work with the cops his parents will and they will use the cops as a cudgel.

OP here, my parents want to get me institutionalized again and my little brother is denying everything because he doesn't want to get thrown in the looney bin. It's a hard decision to make, I'm throwing away everything here and my little siblings will hate me for it but I'm taking matters into my own hands, I got another appointment with a lawyer today and I'll update you guys once it's done, he s most likely gonna tell me how to report this either through social workers or the police. As anon itt as said, if my parents manage to bribe their way out of this I will deal justice myself, knowing them they re probably gonna put a hit on me if they haven't already. Do you guys have any advice on how to make my apartment more secure? Also any advice on how to stay sane would really help I ve been a mess ever since this started. Any input is greatly appreciated, I'm fighting by myself here

Just saw my lawyer, I'm all set to go to the police station, I have to hand over a usb drive containing the evidence. Once the case is picked up by the police it's out of my hands entirely and they are not obligated to tell me anything about the case, should I plant a spyware in the usb drive?

>>59743 Have evidence of the police's awareness of the case. Their awareness of the case should help your brother. Governments can be pedo cults, there's no "evidence".

When my abusive pedo mother illegally evicted me, I went to the police and raised their awareness of my eviction and they did not help me, they laughed at me and repeated the same useless phrase over and over again.

What can easily be done however, apparently, as a perpetrator is to have schemes of circumvention of the judicial system (such as mutilation) applied to your victim of child sex abuse whereby doctors refuse to treat infections from mutilation (in Belgium).

Also, have the government use chemical weapons on your victim of child sex abuse is easy in Belgium apparently. The government in Belgium is probably killing children because I've been sharing this.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles

Conquer your own issues if you want to become an excellent parent >>58858 Look up Dutroux case in Belgium.

You may not want your brother to see psychiatry. Yet this necessity can be organized. Don't trust government. Not even lawyers.

>>59743 keep a copy of the data but don't use spyware, spyware would be retarded because unless you're a master hacker they'll obviously notice it. also keep receipts that the police are aware of the case.

Where in france OP?

>>59765 Government is worse than Dutroux. The thing is, the Dutroux case looks terrible. If the case doesn't look "bad", then the government is extremist damaging pedo cult. It's all for presentation.

>>58833 best of luck anon, you're on some black ops, dark knight arc of your life right now.

>>59797 Paris >>59830 Thanks onizuka sensei

> >Currently writing a contract to blackmail parents into submission (they're filthy rich) so I can live with my little siblings top kek you're gonna get eaten alive my dude you have literally 0 (zero) chances of succeeding.

>>58833 What's the main goal you want to achieve? Have you talked to your siblings about what they want?

>>59835 I dropped that idea already >>59848 I don't really know anymore, my siblings don't want me to go to the police but I can't just let those assholes get away with it

I was extensively mutilated and framed in Belgium because my mother sexually abused me.

>>58833 >Find out drunk mom abuses little bro sexually I always keep 9mm in my drawer for situations like this.

Hello Belgiumposter here. I went to the hospital for my heart and they said it's psychosis.

>>59849 >I don't really know anymore. This is an assumption: you want your siblings to have a safe home to grow up in. Am I correct in this?

Had you at any point asked your brother how he feels about everything without trying to influence his response?

>>59975 brother needs to shut up while he's with his mother for his safety I was asked what I thought about child sex abuse and I was framed m8.

>>59975 He doesn't want me going to the police

>>59979 If you went to the police when he doesnt want you to that would be traumatic for him because he against his wishes would be dragged into a court case about it. Is he opposed to what was done to him or just neutral where he doesn't really mind or is his motives just not wanting to have things be out or some other reason? Is there any non sexual abuse that is physical so there is evidence? Because in some cases he may be more okay going forward with just that part. However that still leaves the issue of what happens to him and the sister of yours if there was a guilty verdict or worse an innocent verdict. If you run out of options maybe you could approach things a different way and get your mom into alcohol recovery program or get her taking DHM regularly so it will be difficult for her to get drunk since DHM help metabolize alcohol and modulates the gaba receptors in the brain.

OP it's police time. Don't regret leaving them untouched later on in life. Also it opens a history about the accused for future actions.

>>59979 Perhaps you should return, and join in the abuse? Your parents are clearly okay with it, so there's really nothing to stop you. Your siblings are vulnerable playthings, but won't be that way forever. So you should get them while they're small, weak, and malleable enough to be convinced they're dependent and have no choice.

Consider sending your parents to mental hospital Instead of jail

>>60128 It's more likely the victim is sent to either of those.

UPDATE I've been too chicken to go to the police,wanted to be in the best shape mentally and physically to deal with this. I'm on the post production of my movie right now, it's very stressful, I've been working with the same team of people for 3 years now, and told everyone of them to fuarrrk off and die. I went nuts and commited social suicide at my workplace which was the last place I could call home, ever since I last browsed this thread I've been looking for a therapist but every one of them turned me down. Any advice on starting over somewhere else, and finding a way to get better? >>59992 > Is he opposed to what was done to him or just neutral where he doesn't really mind or is his motives just not wanting to have things be out or some other reason? Is there any non sexual abuse that is physical so there is evidence? idk

child sex abuse is a weapon used by governments

>>60135 The entire modern world is actually based on violation. Vaccination is the latest in sublimated penetration fixation. All about how to penetrate and deposit your seeds inside of other people. That's all of it, a world of violators, fondlers, groomers, manipulators.

Mais va poucave putain! T'attends quoi???

Went to the police this morning, I feel like soykaf

>>60440 Good on you for that, keep us updated with progress.

>>60442 This soykaf feels so surreal, after going to the police station I hung out with my coworkers and they vented about their problems for a few hours. I just felt like I live in a completely different world, I know it's gonna get worse and people around me are complaining about having too much work, or the usual relationship problems, I never even had a relationship. I know I'm being salty here, but being stuck in a wheelchair for 2 years, 1 year in vegetative state, abused at work, no gf this is all things I can rationalise, I know I'm an asshole and I deserve all that stuff but my little siblings didn't do anything to deserve this. I mean even before all this rape stuff went down I couldn't remember the last time I felt happy, I mean there's a lot of things I take for granted but I can't enjoy none of it for some reason, I can't even talk to a therapist, I've tried ten therapists in the last month and they all wanted to either put me on meds or institutionalize me. Anyways I wanted to vent for a bit too, but I couldn't earlier because I didn't want to be even more of an outcast at work, it's not like I can give up and kill myself, I have to keep going for the sake of my little siblings, they have it harder than I do after all. I feel sick complaining about my problems here knowing the kids have it so much worse.

>>58833 create safe situations where they may gradually end life with their own hands, gradually ramping up the challenges. ideas: 1. cold calling clients 2. killing and preparing small game 3. laughing at and photographing poors, creating timelines of their suffering, with ways to increase their suffering at your benefit. 3a ideas: use everyones' hopes and dreams to sell them things that make you richer at their expense. 3a1: health. wealth. popularity. love. etc. see MR.BEAST leveraging google/beast

>>60448 >people around me are complaining about the usual relationship problems, I never even had a relationship. I know that feel

>I've tried ten therapists in the last month and they all wanted to either put me on meds or institutionalize me https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/an-experiment-fooled-psychiatrists-into-treating-sane-people-as-if-they-were-insane/2017/12/29/c6c9c3ea-d5f7-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html

>>58833 You sound like a righteous person. I like you. Especially since you recognize the pitfalls of the system. I wish you luck in your pursuit of the life you think is righteous. Hope you have happier days ahead and that all of your family elevates itself to a more effecient way of evolving

Force et honneur à toi lainon.

>>60649 >>60652 Thanks guys this means a lot.

>>60645 I'm fairly certain that's the same Jew who was later found to have faked several of those results. It sure is a good thing homeless crazy people wander around the streets instead, right?

>>60645 I don't see why this is a big deal (besides exposing soykafty conditions, that part is real). They lied about having psychosis. That automatically means an inpatient stay and drugs. If I go to the doctor and lie about having back pain, should I be mad if he prescribes me pain meds? You can't even say that hearing voices isn't enough to diagnose and treat schizophrenia, because if the patient came to a psychiatrist about it, it obviously distresses them and they want it fixed. Lastly, a stay in an inpatient psych ward is not the same as institutionalization. As a "voluntary" patient you can leave any time simply by asking to be discharged and signing a paper (Unfortunately they will deny you medications if you do so). Unless the patient is a danger to themselves or others (suicidal or violent threats), is actually violent, or has been court-ordered into a psych ward as a result of breaking the law, they are free to go any time, even from a locked ward. I still wouldn't ever recommend an inpatient psych ward stay, it's a last resort. Outpatient is always better.

>>58833 OP I love what you are trying to do but committing crimes would put you in prison, and then the kids are stuck with them, and withOUT you. Which would be even worse.

I've been stuck in my room for the past month, I don't have many friends and they're all too busy to hang out. With all that soykaf that's been happening I just feel like I need some time to relax, like even before the whole molesting stuff I was stuck in the hospital for breaking my jaw and making my movie really was stressful. I just want to hang out in nature living in the city really is fuarrrking me up, I mean I guess fuarrrking off for a while is the selfish thing to do, but there isn't much else I can do is it? Anyway I'm kind of lost right now, just throwing my thoughts out there, can't sleep because of the nightmares, just been wearing the same dirty clothes, eating mcdonalds every meal and playing video games. I fuarrrking freaked out at work last time and I was feeling pretty guilty about it, but like my coworkers all have had way worse freak out yet I was alienated for being a douchebag in the group chat, really puts things into perspective, like I knew I wasn't respected at my workplace already and most of my coworkers are acting like I'm the devil because I called them out on it, guess I'm better off without them. Like imagine how hard it is to make a movie as a director and actor playing the main character when your whole team shows up late and stoned and keep taking the piss out of you when you tell them to do any work, I know I'm not being an ungrateful boss here, my cameraman kept telling me they acted unprofessional and I shouldn't work with them again, the fuarrrking sound guy deleted half the footage for fuarrrk's sake. If some wise lainon here can give me directions that would be great, not related to workplace trouble I just wanted to vent here, like just what do I do now? I can't help but stress all the time, I'm worried about my siblings and I want to be in the best shape to handle this mess, like I don't see myself saving the kids in the depressed state that I'm in right now

>>60883 Touch grass, and by that I mean organise a cheap place to live where you have ideally 8m2 minimum of dirt ground to farm on but at very least 4m2 of terrace/balcony to farm on (e.g. in buckets, snack bars can give you ~8 10L buckets a week for free if you just walk in and ask). Farming is an effective therapeutic/meditative thing, it is living proof that you can do good and increase in sovereign functioning in a 100% real way. Besides that, ask God for wisdom e.g. meditate not on "how to get wisdom" but just on "I want this please (wisdom)", wisdom leads to sovereignty. Maybe study the Tao te Tsing in your native language or another modest length "condensed wisdom book", it's a safe choice of reading to improve your life.

>>60888 Alright man thanks that seems like some really good advice

My case as been shifted to the police station of my home town, which is full of crooked cops. My father worked with the army minister before, which means I'm probably fuarrrked, also my family's loaded and will easily corrupt the local police. There's going to be a 2 year long investigation before we go to court, maybe 3. I think I may have been molested by my mom too, but it's probably my brain going apeshit from all the stress. Got turned down by another therapist today, another 70 euros down the drain. I haven't been in contact with anyone in my family for the last month, my siblings don't talk to me anymore and the cousin that was supposed to be foster ghosted me.

help your brother if he's not talking, that means he's doing good for himself probably they could still damage him psychiatry would harm him

>>61149 >help your brother How?

>>61168 not sure there's this meta where government doesn't help you out with child sex abuse surveillance is warranted with fraud, it's extremist authoritarian regime soykaf, they don't really give a soykaf I guess stay close to your siblings, try to keep quiet on the subject. Don't make too much noise? Wait it out?

In Belgium, they trust in extremist damaging pedo cult (those who damage child sex abuse victims, the fraudulent judgement of "psychosis" which is organized by them), to warrant obstruction of justice in child sex abuse scandals.

>>61170 so do they catch them or not (?) more importantly, do they rehabilitate them with free measels vaccines ?

The Belgian justice system, so far, is in fact part of extremist damaging pedo cult. The entirety of government frames child sex abuse victims. The judicial system is sham. There's already been numerous assaults on my life by government in Belgium, and defending myself would be the framing succeeding. I was indefinitely convicted to circumvention of the judicial system since I was a child for what others organized for suppression of child sex abuse scandals, and there's still no justice for me.

>>61201 Do you have any proof?

>>61230 It's standard qtard BS, he posts this stuff everyday. Nothing to see here.

>>61230 This is difficult. During my stay at abusive parents trauma in relation to my privacy was organized. Possession of evidence would imply handing it over to abusers (I live by myself now, but this is fairly recent). I have some evidence. Myself: mutilations There's evidence of the removal of evidence: medical scans (my brain they mutilated, my heart that's in trouble). Lots of e-mails I sent, and lack of appropriate response. E-mails to lawyers, public prosecutor, politicians, police, .... In any case there's no evidence of "psychosis", however there's evidence of their fraudulent judgement of "psychosis". There's evidence of the lack of diagnosis of my heart. My heart can be regarded as evidence, my brain can be regarded as evidence elsewhere. I don't know where to go or who to contact. And as I mentioned there's some evidence of their removal of medical scans.

>>61230 So to answer your question more specifically in regards to the justice system. When I called (public prosecutor, because lawyers organize obstruction) they said everything is in order, not to send more information. They said they can't help me and so won't. They threatened me with police (I already know police did the framing) for sending e-mails.

>>61230 Sorry for these follow up replies. I'm at the point where proof doesn't matter anyway because judicial system is sham. I haven't lived under rule of law, that's exclusive in Belgium. For international law?

>Called my sister today to wish her a happy birthday >Found out my family is in greece on a 1 week long boat ride >My 2 siblings on a boat with my parents for a week >Was so shocked I couldn't even say anything >The kids abruptely ended the call >They don't have their phones anymore for some reason and the call was on my parents phone and they watched the whole thing unfold What the fuarrrk do I do? The police didn't do anything and they're probably getting raped right now

>>61557 Calm down. It doesn't sound suspicious at all.

>>61558 They're not on a cruise, it's just them and the driver, sounds sketchy to be honest

Holy crap, man. Reading this thread, it feels like there's no way what you're describing is real - but if it is, I wish you the best of luck in figuring out some way to help your siblings. Depending on where in Europe you live, I could try to pull a few strings. Can't promise anything though.

>>61557 Hello Belgium person here. I also went on vacation with my abusive parents. That's probably just "evidence" to show that it's all normal and such, with lots of pics. Government/justice system would likely accept this cognitive dissonance. Your siblings are likely in cognitive dissonance and/or dissociation. I suspect don't worry about vacation per sé, but worry about their future. They can be led to mental illness, psychiatry or such or other framing mechanisms government would regard as legitimate (or even death, or mutilation of brain). The entirety of government in Belgium frames child sex abuse victims. The entirety of government organized obstruction for my cases against others, as a victim of child sex abuse. As a child I was given the treatment "abuse under drugs administered without consent" for alleged "justice" (sham), framing that was organized.

>>61563 I'm in Paris >>61570 >Your siblings are likely in cognitive dissonance and/or dissociation. I figured, we had a video call and they acted very weird

>>61570 (me) I suspect people who do this with their kids share "how to do it" or something. Because they made me experience crazy stories nobody would believe pretty much. I was repeatedly raped and such later. It's also likely "how to do it" includes creating a sort of criminal "gang" whereby they all know about each others crimes inflicted upon the shared victim, so snitching implies getting themselves in trouble too. I experienced too much criminality and police, order of doctors are criminal organizations. In any case, the doctors organized "psychosis" and claimed psychosis for me and such.

Also they organized "testing" of knowledge, understanding. All during stay with the abusers. All extremely unethical, yet it happens. "Democratic" state Belgium is overwhelmingly extremist damaging pedo cult.

Dissociation (PTSD) sometimes makes it seem like I'm more offended by not the worst of it. The worst of it may get lost in dissociation. They developed dissociation since I was a young child, then recently they organized stress and claimed "psychosis" again, it's PTSD. They don't diagnose PTSD and such. They don't even diagnose heart problems or infection in my face.

Even my heart was mutilated pretty much.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2022/aug/06/fought-till-end-archie-battersbee-family-statement-after-death-video This is probably one of the Brits' child sex abuse scandals to be honest. fuarrrker supposedly held his breath.

>>58833 why should I care? The whole of civilisation is rape, and slave based. How the frick do you think 'people' are able to live the way do?! The only abuse I see is you crying abuse. If you ride in a car, or ride a bicycle, or walk in sneakers, your are an abuser of the planet; get fuarrrked, cunt

>>61631 Those in power chose unethical world, and I guess you would elect them.

>>61631 It's the exact opposite. The lack of civilization is rape and forced labor. Civilization is the social contract, the respect of mutual rights so we both rise above the animal state. Some philosophers argued that the social contract keep going further away as civilization progress, like solidarity becoming the norm, something you used to see in Scandinavian countries, the ones with the best HDI. Of course, making it mandatory by law on a population that is not civilized enough have already created a disaster. Personally, I determine the quality of a civilization to the size of the debt people owe to their parents and pay to their kids. Having a culture hostile to families make it the lower possible state.

>>61712 There's still by government actively organized lack of civilization then.

>>61712 I appreciate the thoughhtfulness, and as I do not see us as seperate from nature, then civilization, and social contracts are the logical extensions of advancing logical frameworks. >Personally, I determine the quality of a civilization to the size of the debt people owe to their parents and pay to their kids. Having a culture hostile to families make it the lower possible state. Good point. I think it is useful to establish just how impossible said debt would be to actually pay-back, thus illustrating its importance.

>Personally, I determine the quality of a civilization to the size of the debt people owe to their parents and pay to their kids. Having a culture hostile to families make it the lower possible state. >Good point. I think it is useful to establish just how impossible said debt would be to actually pay-back, thus illustrating its importance. I'm not understanding this.

>>61730 How could one payback one's debt to one's parents? If one was to calculate all that went into one's birth, etc., how would one repay that?

>>61731 That's unethical. Obviously you're assuming being born is desirable. Obviously we were already discussing the conditional undesirable nature of conceiving.

>>61712 >Personally, I determine the quality of a civilization to the size of the debt people owe to their parents and pay to their kids. Having a culture hostile to families make it the lower possible state. Faith? Humans and families are unethical. This is apparent. Even trust is unethical, families come with trust. You should never owe for what you're not responsible for.

>>61731 Perhaps if you didn't abandon them in their old age. They changed your diapers once, later the roles become reversed. Mine are both dead already so I got off lucky.

You can't trust doctors. You can't trust lawyers. A new appointed lawyer (because state is killing me, heart problems, no diagnosis, why do I even try?) trusts the report doctors made with fraud, "psychosis" diagnosis, for the heart. The lawyer chose to trust, not in me as the client however. In any case it's all government.

Belgium isn't ruled by law nor by democracy. Under democracy, in order to prevent undemocratic proceedings, knowledge in regards to organization by government would be attainable, and this would prevent organization such as elaborate framing schemes for the child sex abuse scandals. Under rule by law I'm owed enormous damages, and they can grant them easily given the extreme, unethical means government used against me in the case (which given the use would be unethical not to use, because then it's exclusive, unfair, unjust). Those in power chose to rule by trust in extremist damaging pedo cult. Those in power chose not to have democracy, nor rule of law.

They're coming back from Greece at the end of the week, probably gonna find out I talked to the cops when they get home How should I prepare for this? Should I hire a private investigator?

>>61857 >heart problems >"psychosis" diagnosis, for the heart You should talk with your psychiatrist because the heart problems can be a side effect of your meds (if you have meds). Ask for a different drug. >>61910 >How should I prepare for this? Just talk with them. Ask them about the trip, too. >Should I hire a private investigator? I think that's not necessary. I think you are freaking out a bit, too.

>>61910 State frames and kills child sex abuse victims in Belgium so I don't see this perspective at all. I still have heart problems, no heart diagnosis. I can only walk a short distance and slowly with my heart. They're still killing me. They tried to kill me as a child. The hits to my heart started as a child. I've been immensely mutilated, damaged for presentation of child sex abuse scandals. My mother is a special education teacher and she child sex abused me. State technically calls for child sex abuse in any case. The victim is framed, damaged, mutilated, ruined, killed, .... The entirety of government obstructs justice against the abusers. The entirety of government is an extremist damaging pedo cult and they frame and kill people. Judicial system is sham. A lawyer here chooses to act on trust (trust in extremist damaging pedo cult order of doctors, government) and lack of knowledge at the expense of the client (child sex abuse victim). State knows about it, they elaborately framed, damaged, mutilated me, .... Why does state call for it? Selective normalization of child sex abuse was/is likely active use of weapons against certain influence ("leftism") here in Belgium (if I go by my own case).

>>61913 It was myocarditis. I got myocarditis from covid vaccin, then much more severe myocarditis from infection(?). Psychiatrists damage child sex abuse victims, they are extremist damaging pedo cult order of doctors who tried to kill me as a child, and damaged me with chemical weapons, bio weapons, .... They diagnosed "psychosis" for my heart problems, in a case where "psychosis" (induced PTSD, mutilation of brain, ...) was previously organized, and "psychosis" was claimed by my mother's doctor (the same doctor who tried to kill me and damaged me as a child). I have no heart diagnosis and I can barely walk, after 2 hospital visits for my heart, with unwanted scan of my brain, removed medical scans, ...

>>61915 >It was myocarditis. I got myocarditis from covid vaccin, then much more severe myocarditis from infection(?). It could have been a hit to my heart. I'm immobile. I can't even flee if they're after me for sharing information about government's pedo organization online.

To clarify something: I asked for a lawyer for a case for The European Court of Human Rights, because the state is killing me with my heart, and they appointed a lawyer who immediately trusts in a report by extremist damaging pedo cult order of doctors (what I consider evidence of organization of fraud). Previously I was appointed a lawyer who also didn't advise me, who also committed obstruction, circumvention of the judicial system. These workings clearly indicate from my perspective, I'm someone who is still convicted to circumvention of the judicial system for what others organized for suppression of child sex abuse scandals since I was a child. Belgium isn't ruled by law nor by democracy, and they frame and kill people.

I just checked online to see if my medical scans are available again and a different heart is now available to see (probably from someone else). I viewed the medical scans before they were removed. The unwanted medical imaging of my brain is also still unavailable.

Both public prosecutor and police were notified of organization of fraud in regards to my heart, murder before they were able to insert different medical imaging in my file, after removal of medical imaging, so they're all collectively murdering me. When I last called public prosecutor they claimed they can't do anything for me and they tell me to stop communicating with them.

>Parents just got back from Greece >Apparently police still haven't done anything What do I do? Should I go to the police station and tell them to do their job? I did that once already and they're still doing nothing

>>61941 here's my reply in .txt to circumvent lainchan's new "spam" detection

>>61943 I am sorry to hear what happened to you. Hopefully one day you will have freedom from them and be able to live your life in peace. May God grant you peace and health in your life. I wanted to ask you, if it is not a problem. How is your heart damaged? Is it since your childhood? How is your brain damaged? Is it just after the brain scanning?

>>61943 It isn't "new", but I can see what you're hitting to upset the spam detection. Good luck, man.

I'm gonna talk to my dad over the phone tomorrow, I'm gonna tell him I don't want anything to do with him or my mom anymore and that they should just leave me alone. I don't know if it's a good decision, but I can't fuarrrking stand the cunts anymore, I'll always be scared, depressed and have low self esteem because of all the soykaf they made me go through. I know it's useless to try and make them understand how much they fuarrrked up my life, so I don't think I'm even gonna bother. I'm never gonna be able to keep a job, have sex, be proud of anything I do, I'm just gonna keep hating myself for the rest of my life because those fuarrrking monsters spooked me so bad that fear is the only thing my brain can process anymore. I mean in hindsight it makes sense that I became an actor, I just wish I could be anybody else, god knows I would have killed myself long ago if it weren't for my little siblings, that responsability is basically the only thing that's keeping me from going nuts, I don't want them to become a fuarrrkup like me. I'm not giving up on my little siblings, I'm gonna go and talk to the police again this monday.

>>61944 Thank you. How is your heart damaged? These's different occurrences. The recent situation is in all likelihood, myocarditis, undiagnosed. >Is it since your childhood? Some of it. >How is your brain damaged? Chemical weapons, abuse (PTSD), likely punctured through my ear to damage my brain. I asked lawyer I suspect I had symptoms of this in the period of organization of "psychosis", no response. No advice. I don't know if they ever used electroshock on my brain, but they had access to me in my sleep, they did abuse me under drugs administered without consent, I did experience extreme contrast in memory and intelligence at several occasions, It is also likely they used electromagnetic weapon on me. >Is it just after the brain scanning? No I refused when they suggested this, but they made me. The medical image isn't available to me. Files in relation to organization of "psychosis" from 3 different doctors/psychiatrists aren't available to me. >>61945 Strange how it appeared to trigger on the specific content of the post. >>61941 If you notify police and the outcome isn't acceptable, there's this then. For framing of child sex abuse victim the means are abuse under drugs administered without consent.

>>61948 It may be better to stay cool. It's better for your siblings if you're around, don't leave them. Do your siblings have locks on their door? I didn't, the key was removed. Trauma in relation to my privacy was organized. I experienced abuse during sleep. You're doing good. Good luck. Stay safe.

>>61950 I'm gonna be shooting a movie until november and I just don't want to see my parents anymore, my siblings know they can call me and I'll come pick them up if things get wild at home

>>61949 Hi, your situation is not something I can imagine how it feels like. It must be terrible to have went through all of that, and to still have to be in contact with the police and such, since they are not on the side of the victim. Thank you for answering my previous message on here. I wish you would be able to just leave the country and go somewhere where you could be safe. If you want, you can talk with me about these things, if it would help you somehow to talk with someone. Perhaps on some irc network? I hope that you will be fine. Take care

>>61960 Hi, I don't talk to people much, it may help. Last I used was tox with 1 contact on average, and I removed it after I considered a previous contact may be after my data, and reading that qtox is insecure. https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Chat#Tox What messengers do people use?

OP here, I just made a thread on /zzz/ about a dream I had, I think it's relevant to this thread. https://lainchan.org/zzz/res/5705.html

>>61974 OP is fake and sham? Or are you not OP?

And that's all I told others about a dream I had as a child. And then they assumed I believe in dreams. And they asked me about it during abuse under drugs. They organized I didn't. And those people are criminals. ?

https://teddit.net/r/privacy/comments/voaicx/10_error_rate_is_okay_leaked_eu_commission/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32562294 Eu is warranting control over communication with fraud. And it technically legalizes erroneous control. The reality of child sex abuse in EU is: the Belgian state, government elaborately frames, damages, mutilates, organizes fraud, ... against child sex abuse victims. Justice against abusers and state is obstructed. State in any case technically calls for sadists to abuse their children.

>>61963 hi, you can join on channel NjE5NjMK on aXJjLm9mdGMubmV0Cg==, hope to see you so we can talk (echo $code|base64 -d)

>>62034 for what is this? IRC?

Small update. The police haven't done anything, as expected and my mental state is becoming worse and worse. I don't cook anymore, my room is a mess and I barely get out of bed, I'm awake for no more than 5 hours a day and spend most of this time listening to music, crying and smoking cigarettes. I either eat nothing or I order fast food and everything I once took pride in I feel is pathetic now, the last year of my life was dedicated to making a 5 minutes long edgy soykafpost parody of albert camus myth of sissyphus full of poopoo peepee humor, I've stopped post production and won't be releasing it, since the reception would only damage my psyche and self esteem even more. My boss has been my only form of social interaction ever since this whole mess started, he would check on me almost everyday and play some coop games with me, I'm really grateful, he's having his birthday party in his hometown this week-end, I hope I don't freak out or anything, I have very bad social anxiety and I barely know anyone there. Anyway feel free to soykafpost or insult me ITT, I deserve it and this thread has become a glorified diary anyway, but it really helps me cope since I've been rejected by every therapist in town.

>>62063 Are you even real OP? Do you live by yourself now? Depression is like totally natural. Is this you? >>61974

>>62035 yes it is for irc, you are supposed to run the commands echo aXJjLm9mdGMubmV0Cg==|base64 -d echo NjE5NjMK|base64 -d, join the channel on that network

>>62070 Isn't there supposed to be a domain name server for IRC? Which IRC software do I use for this?

>>62067 >Are you even real OP? What do you mean? >Do you live by yourself now? I've been living alone for the past 3 years >Is this you? >>61974 Yes

>Depression is like totally natural. I've been depressed for most of my life, this is different, it's like realising how ridiculous I look and how retarded I am. I put in so much effort into things that are ridiculous and worthless and now I have to fight against my rich and powerful pedo parents. I never achieved anything, I'm almost 23, a highschool dropout, my only friend is my boss, all my coworkers treat me like a retard because I keep embarassing myself. Being an indie actor is cool but no matter how hard I try I'm still absolute garbage, I don't think I'm proud of anything I've ever done. I'm also a terrible big brother, I let my little siblings get molested, that guilt is tearing me apart.

>>62063 > he's having his birthday party in his hometown I missed the train

>>62073 you can use irssi for example, or search for 'irc client'. In irc client of your choice, put that address to connect, then join the channel. Address beggins with irc. and channel beggins with #. OP is also welcome to join and talk about problems.

>>62106 What's the network? .

>>62106 is not working but I'm trying to use proxy to connect using proxy isn't even working I haven't been using IRC for a long time.

>>62092 It occured, since it is stressful to attend a party, maybe you should talk alone with your boss, you will feel better having someone to talk to. >>62108 >>62107 the network is irc.oftc.net, the channel is #61963

>>62073 >>62112 I don't know what you mean DNS for IRC, DNS is for IRC, HTTP, there is no specific DNS per protocol. You can either use the domain name or the IP address, you can use the 'nslookup' command to convert between the two.

>>62113 I am sorry I did not see the message. I will be idle on the channel. I was there just couldn't respond on time

>>62106 >OP is also welcome to join thanks for the invite, I'll set this up as soon as I have time