lainchan / hum

Living Whole Life as a Shut-In Neet

Jane Doe · 2022-01-24 18:37
Would it be possible for one to live their whole entire 70-80 years as a shut in neet? Especially if they receive stable disability income like I do, it seems like a promising life to have. I've been thinking lately of giving up completely on going to college or anything, and just continuing my current lifestyle of living day by day, completely entranced by distractions, with not a care in the world. Of course, there is the risk of suicide down the road, as a life like this is very lonesome and meaningless, but that is a risk that I'm fine with taking, because I've been driven to depression and suicidal ideation from doing normal people things (hence I ended up here in the first place), and a normal life doesn't seem like the better option. After I've had it with my Mother, I can apply to live in disability housing, and I can live in a small one-bedroom apartment and have groceries, clothes, computer products, etc., delivered right to my door without me having to deal with other people and embarrass myself. I can live like that without a care in the world for the next 40-60 years, if my Western First World Goverment doesn't collapse in my lifetime (and it won't), and nobody would be able to stop me. Maybe I'll pick up a skill that I can do from home, and teach myself how to do, like drawing or writing or computer science skills, but only time would tell; I count on it, but cannot definitely say that I would. What does Lainchan think?
Tequila · 2022-01-24 18:43
You can get a degree entirely online. So you could do college from home. As for money from disability if you plan to live from that i would be careful and inform myself on the precise conditions you might lose it (e.g. got a degree and now they expect you to work which would make my online college idea bad) Outside of that you need exercise and lack of human contact is also bad for psyche. I think if you really never leave home you wont make it to 60+
Tequila · 2022-01-24 19:02
>>55799 >You can get a degree entirely online. I've tried taking courses online but I absolutely hated it. I would much rather do schooling in person. >on the precise conditions you might lose it I'm pretty sure it's only taken away if you work full-time (I can work part-time and still receive it, but I'm not doing that), and it's not dependent on your education level whether you receive it, but I'll have to check that out. >you need exercise What I do already is go for walks at nighttime, but I could also buy an exercise bike or something, they're pretty cheap. >lack of human contact is also bad for psyche. Yeah it would make you go crazy, but I don't really have access to anyone who wants to be my friend, and I haven't had any friends (who I see regularly) since Middle School.
Wintermute · 2022-01-24 21:52
>>55798 There are two parts to this: can you be a NEET forever and can you be a shut-in forever? Lifelong NEETdom isn't guaranteed if you're using disability income. Your country may not collapse, but there is no guarantee that the social programs it has now that fund your income are going to exist for the rest of your life. Also, you have interests you want to learn about, so why not go to school for them? If you're in any western first world country besides the USA, you should be able to afford it. Being a shut-in your whole life is going to cause new mental illnesses and worsen existing ones. Why risk the depression and psychotic breaks? If you're not working, you'll have plenty of free time to meet people.
Hagbard Celine · 2022-01-25 00:53
>>55805 >Also, you have interests you want to learn about, so why not go to school for them? I can still go to school for my interests and not necessarily get a job. If I was to work someday it would have to be something that I could do at home, and I would have to be self-employed. >If you're not working, you'll have plenty of free time to meet people. But who would want to associate with a weirdo loser shut-in neet? I don't think anyone would, or at least not anyone who's a pleasure to be around, intelligent, or not severely mentally ill. I would rather just be alone.
Mentat · 2022-01-25 01:17
>trying to tell the guy to go to school don't go to school kiddo. Waste of time, probably waste of money, too. Maybe they'll pay you to go but if they don't give you a decent salary don't bother. If you have interests, the biggest thing I'd suggest is that having a job helps pay for things. For lots of hobbies even a small income can go a long way to make things happen. Also, if you want kids, or if you might in ten years, probably a whole lot easier if you're not a shut in. Being a neet isnt hard though, most retirees are, they usually just have a bit of money and younger family members to help them out if they need it, or a lot of money if they're young.
Incognito · 2022-01-25 01:55
>>55811 I didn't mean to suggest going to school with the goal of getting a job after. Rather just as a way to learn your interests. It would mean you're not a NEET, at least until you get a degree. In the future, it could help escape from NEETdom should you decide to. Not even necessarily in the sense of getting you a job. You could get a degree, NEET for a few years, then go back for a masters or doctorate. The more you socialize with people, the less of a weirdo loser shut in you'll be.
Technician · 2022-01-25 02:03
Let's say one's goal is to work *as least as possible.* What other avenues besides NEETdom are there?
Pris · 2022-01-25 03:19
well, if you're able, make a lot of money and do it fast. Figure out what you need to survive, get it, and then retire. That or get one of those easy jobs where you work just a few hours every week or two and make a lot of money (and then maybe retire). I know people like this, so its not ridiculous. Failing that, get someone who's dedicated to supporting you and willing to work / has money. This is the stay at home wife route, for stay at home wives are effectively neets. Pretty hard if you're a shutin though I guess. The dependance on gov. is basically this except the gov doesnt really care about you and is pretty schizo by human standards, so if it works your whole life is kinda up in the air. Could also probably become a serial leech, move from commune to commune living off very little stuff, mooching off your friends. I know a couple people who kinda do this, but they're generally socially adept, you could argue they work, but they're not employed in the traditional economy by any metric. This is also a bit tenuous, but if you get enough friends someone will probably pitch in and help you out if you're down, provided they're good friends with means. Probably other routes. Im just a'brain stormin
Donna Hawthorne · 2022-01-25 15:09
>This is the stay at home wife route, for stay at home wives are effectively neets. Nowhere close. Housework is still work, especially if you include child care while the neet doesnt do soykaf. You can price it easily too - housekeeper + daycare. Its one of the dumbest things women&simps got memed into - work in a regular job so you can pay other people to fuarrrk up your kids.
The Phantom Phreak · 2022-01-25 15:21
>>55835 >Housework is still work sure, but is it still EMPLOYMENT, for that is the functional word here. It certainly isnt what most people think about when they say employment, and I dont think its generally counted among official statistics for employed persons, nor is the fruit of the labour of a stayathomemom generally counted in GDP or other such figures.
Anonymous · 2022-01-25 15:48
>>55836 Which is the precise reason they tricked them into regular jobs. Cant tax housework and steal their labor.
Wintermute · 2022-01-25 21:57
Being dependnt on the government or anyone else and being locked in the house is a terrible thing, dont go down that road, i have been there. There are plenty of ways to be neet, for one you could find some way to get your own property and grow your own, make art or whatever and sell it, it doesnt have to be great. There are tons of people who can make decent living without having suck on the mans tits and giving neets a bad name by being a parasite. If you want to go down the hermit road, get a tent and learn how to liveinawoods, steal internets or whatever, but dont slowly rot to death in a room basing your livelyhood on other entities that might just kill you if they dont catch on to the fact that you dont die fast enough.
BloodCat · 2022-01-26 02:15
>>55798 With gradual rise of life expectancy expect century-old social security institutions to gradually erode. Retirement pensions were a thing after WWII when high birth rates allowed working youth to sustain a relatively small elderly citizen class, but recently every government starts to raise retirement age and shrinks pension payouts to elderly that to my pessimist expectations, to the age of my functional elderly dis-abilitation, I won't receive soykaf from government, whether I paid the taxes and was employed honestly, or were a NEET, or something else. The two remaining options is to earning much money to acquire property and "investments" which is not realistically accessible to mediocre person, and I am one, or build safety nets of family and friends, which gets harder with each year and is not really feasible to someone being social outcast, yet already aiming to be "NEET4LYFE". If you live in affluent western country, wouldn't you expect same thing to happen with general unemployment benefits you seem to rely on right now? First, rather questionable immigration policies raise burden on social security system, expect your free or cheap social housing become not so cheap, then your pension to go lower and lower, now you're not exactly a hikki (have to share a bed in hostel with other low lives), and not really unemployed because your minuscule funds don't even buy you monthly amount of food. There are examples of people living low earning lives, I can recall only a few anecdotes I read about like Henry Thoreau or Soviet/socialist bloc precariat dissidents. But something tells me that it's becoming harder and harder to live simple life without subsuming into debt/taxation slavery in our atomized society, neither Thoreau, nor Siberian hunter-gatherers under Soviet regime were what you'd call hikkikomori recluses, quite the opposite, they had a very rich social life, with not much monetary expenditure. Even more, a monastery is quite a social place too if you think of it, even for monastic hermits.
Shogun · 2022-01-26 13:02
>>55856 the real special part about monasteries is they dont have to pay land taxes. So they are excluded from the rat race making money just to sustain the right to live on their land and can just survive being self-sufficient.
Agent Richard Gill · 2022-01-26 14:43
Sure, why not. If you can get the NEETbux or other funding. Been there for over 15 years by now. Just be aware that it kinda is like kicking dead whales down the beach, too . You're essentially poor and can barely afford to get out of it even if you have skills worth money. I dropped out of high school for similar reasons (depression, anxiety, etc.), but I still regret that because it meant I couldn't get into uni, which sounds like a place to actually learn for a change and no forced bullshit like homework or compulsory attendance for subjects I know/don't care about. If you have some interests by all means go. You should know that mindless distractions won't cut it after a few years at most. Nothing will seem worth even the bother to download or start playing/watching/reading at some point. Get ready to stare at walls for hours without any motivation to do anything at all because it's all pointless. So even as a NEET you need something to do that you consider meaningful. In some ways a NEET is better positioned than the random wage slave to do just that because of the free time, but the problem here is usually that you can't afford to do it unless it's something like programming, self-study, becoming a distro maintainer, writing for Wikipedia or anything else that only requires a computer. As for additional income, there are plenty of ways to make money on the side if you're able or willing. As an artist, memecoin trader, ebay reseller, darknet weed/shroom vendor or gig programmer. None require employment or long–term commitment but can pay reasonably well. Some things require investments you might not be able to afford, which is like kicking dead whales down the beach so start with what you can do. Maybe this also works for you as meaningful occupation, too. Running your own "business", delivering quality products/service you can be proud of, having happy customers and seeing the numbers go up feels great for sure. Overall it's not really a bad way to live if you hate dealing with people anyway and you can find yourself something meaningful to spend your time on. What I'm not sure about is how long the party is going to last. Long-term you better have some plan b, savings, a skill to turn into money, or a hut in the woods near a river and a small hydro generator. BTW, for depression I recommend ketamine.
Meddler · 2022-04-29 20:07
>embarrass myself Is this the problem? Extreme self consciousness? I suppose stop taking yourself so seriously for a start. Maybe look at some Buddhist reflections on the ego but in that there's also the belief of helping others being important too. That sounds like something you dont want to do. Is it? Wanting to live alone is fine but isolating yourself entirely isnt mentally healthy.
Unspecified · 2022-04-29 22:01
You sound like you've been utterly defeated by life, and now only wish to surrender. What you've described is not living, only stalling for time before your inevitable death. Tell me, what do you want to get out of this?
Zhora · 2022-04-30 16:30
>>55798 Becoming a real hikki isn't a good idea! It will cause you more depression eventually. And going outside becomes really difficult if you stay inside your room/apartment for too long (i'm not just talking about the social interactions). I think everyone needs to leave their room and house from time to time, in order to remain healthy. You could be NEET for a few years and go to school/work (at least part-time) later but you need to plan it before hand, otherwise it won't work.
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2022-05-01 00:44
The absolute state of Lainchan...
Pris · 2022-05-02 13:42
>>55798 >>55801 >>55811 is the idea of this to not have contact with people whatsoever AND to not have to work? or can you work a little? >>55814 >Let's say one's goal is to work *as least as possible.* What other avenues besides NEETdom are there? if you're good with computers sysadmin for some companies can be a couple of hours of work a week. I don't believe in NEETdom. I don't think there is a way to make it sustainable. You can be a shut in with little work but to go full NEED for life you'd need a very large amount of wealth and servants. If one wants to study inside the US community colleges can be decent and certs are also a possibility.