Covid Discussions Thread 6.0

Old thread reached bump limit >>48964 https://se7en-site.neocities.org/articles/covid.html Mandatory vaccination, world ID, a digital satanic Mark of the Beast? It's the cyberpunk dystopia I expected, but not the one I wished for.

I'm not getting the vaccine because ever since the start of the pandemic, I've always been detached from the media fear machine. My lifestyle is very solitary, and I have extremely low risk of infecting others or being infected myself. I shouldn't have to "act" in any way regarding this pandemic, I have my own life and hobbies, I am young and healthy, and I shouldn't be coerced or forced to give into the fear campaign. Being mandated to wear a mask in public is the height of my tolerance, and even then, I reuse 5 or so hospital-type masks because I cannot be fuarrrked to give into the mask consoomerism, hospital masks are the most breathable, and nobody in public knows if I've reused them anyway. It's all just a form of the bare minimum compliance. >ZOMG it's like super offensive that you won't get the vaccine!!! I don't even sperg out in public or online about this topic, this is the first time I've contributed to one of these threads, I really don't care. What is most concerning is the strain that all of these measures have had on the mental health of children, and people who are within the ages of fertility. Very high rates of depression and anxiety amongst young people, severe atomization and loneliness related mental pathology, that's a real pandemic right there.

There is a German (no translation yet, sadly) production that has come out recently that discusses vaccine mandates and other recent political ideas, in particular with regards to effects on children and other less represented members of society. It also examines the ethics and practical problems of vaccination campaigns. For those of you in German speaking jurisdictions, who are immediately affected by the politics that show up in this discussion, I can only beg of you to critically examine the contents of this film, absorb what you think is right and spread the message as far as the voice can reach. https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=YeT1eTJYTwk (or https://youtube.com/watch?v=YeT1eTJYTwk) Thank you for your patience.

>>50691 Back around the start of this thing, I tried to talk to people and convince them. At this point it's just too late for anybody who still buys it whole-cloth. They are too slow, too stupid, incapable of taking power seriously. Kind of like 9/11 and the GWOT, they will only understand it about ten years too late for it to matter and then wave it away and pretend that the messed-up world they placed themselves in is simply how it's always been. Pathetic coping Imagine thinking that the interwoven corporation-state cares about your health. Imagine they care this much about a 0.1% risk. Imagine thinking that science is infallible, never considering that knowledge is power and must be treated exactly as such. That its elites are agents of the same institutions as any other elite. There is no hope for these rubes anymore. They might act surprised when digital money gets added on to the vaxport, and it becomes the only means through which a citizen can engage in commerce. Even though the major parties involved have telegraphed this idea for years. Most likely they'll just excuse it and say it's just for convenience. Pretend that the long slide here was totally natural and not a big deal at all. I'm done with these people. I have no time for them. I despise cowards.

>>50708 good. i'm done with panicspreaders too. Covid is to be taken seriously, just like the flu, not turned into a lizardvirus developed by the illuminati to kill the white race.

>>50709 Yep. Treat it like the flu, which it's roughly equivalent to in risk. Which makes these extreme measures very suspect and creepy. It's not proportional. It ain't lizards but I'm sick of fools who think that ascribing agency to any process in society is equivalent to conspiracy theory. Sick of "leftists" who don't even take seriously the agency of capital. Pretend it doesn't exist, then turn around and ridicule people who do their jobs for them by seeing it obviously does exist. The cognitive dissonance must be agonizing.

>>50708 This right here to be honest. It isnt just cowardace, stupidity and ignorance that is rampant, this is far worse. Not only do people keep quiet and collaborate, but they are happy about how things go, with a please and a thank you they not only strip themselfs of their freedoms but subject others to the same thing. In my country soykaf is getting real serious, you cant have a job without the jab next year, theyre not even going for the food shortage but straight for the kill, literally. You cant already enter even a fuarrrking library or sit be too close to people at a restaurant outdoors! Yet most people just act like its nothing, they just get the shot and pretend its all fine and good, public places are filled with people, even though not only do you have to show vax pass but also you id. Its sickening how far willing most people are to surrender their freedoms and health to a system that has abused people in ways that most people cant imagine. Its hard to look people in the face and not have burning rage towards them. Obviously im not the only one, the few friends i still have left are on my side, im thankful atleast for those. Everyone is pretending all is fine and good, nothing could be further from the truth, its pathetic how people pretend its not happening, but it is. They played this game before this madness, but things have gotten so much worse, not just covid but all problems, they all line up to get the jab then pretend that the world is not a dumpster fire in a madhouse, but the fire consumed all and the smoke is everywhere, yet the sheep celebrate and keep going just as before, right down the cliff. Its unreal just how much people pretend nothing is happening and all is fine, we are facing a global crisis on every level but most just want to keep going with what not only are the reasons why this happened, but every other consequence that still will happen, when they happen i expect nothing but denial from people. People were always a dissapointment, but every day they steep so much lower than even i anticipated. Humanity is in for a very rude and painful awakening, i dont believe most people are in any way ready for this, but it must happen and soon or we may well be doomed for good. Btw anyone got the picture from the nurse who lost all her fingers cuz of bloodclot jab, dont have it here but im sure someone does.

>OP's link source: my ass That's the most annoying thing about this whole covid business. If you want to look at anything with a critical eye you're immediately flooded with a bunch of bullshit, and then all the tech corps try to prevent you from looking at the bullshit and throw out any legitimate critical viewpoints along with it. >>50702 >What is most concerning is the strain that all of these measures have had on the mental health of children, and people who are within the ages of fertility. Very high rates of depression and anxiety amongst young people, severe atomization and loneliness related mental pathology, that's a real pandemic right there. Yes. These were huge problems before and now they're in overdrive. Education inequality has also gotten way worse... rich mommies and daddies can afford private tutors with a group of friends, poor ones have to work *and* take care of their kid at home while they get useless zoom instruction and don't socialize at all. In 5-8 years we'll probably see the first wave of high school graduates who mostly can't read and can barely communicate with each other. >>50711 I mean, it *is* more infectious than most flus by a pretty wide margin, and it has a different profile of clinical outcomes. I think some amount of panic was reasonable at the outset when nobody knew how to deal with it, but of course corps and governments used the panic for their own gain and now we're in this infinite slog with no exit plan. Sounds familiar...

>>50714 >reasonable at the outset when nobody knew how to deal with it Yep. There was a short window of uncertainty for most people. Some reasonable caution was warranted. And yes, there was definitely some opportunistic exploitation—let no good crisis go to waste, as a recent statesman said. But there is very clear evidence that there was not only reactionary, opportunistic moves by power and capital. There was pre-planning before anybody on Earth knew about covid. Does this imply that the entire situation was staged, planned out in totality, engineered? Maybe, not not really necessarily. The march of respiratory infections coming out of the region was already fairly predictable. SARS, MERS, et cetera. They just had to wait on one just convincing enough to spin up the fear machine and hop on the gravy train. But Event 201 clearly demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that such plans for taking advantage of a pandemic were already laid out. I'm no oracle, I can't answer the other implications from my humble point of view—but the lead-up is there and in the end I don't think it really matters. There was intent to exploit from before the outset, and the power elite did exactly what they told us they would do. It's a very old and common game, one that Upton Sinclair could have told us the rough outcome of. Still manages to take a lot of people off-guard each time.

>>50715 Event 201 was where the plan was first set in motion. The rockefeller foundation have made plans for this as far back as in 2012, explicitly stating what will be done, which is exactly as it went. The president of ghana, who died a few days later mysteriously, has spoken out in a video and shown clearly that all this was laid out in the lockstep document and followed exactly. Yes it is disturbing how open the elites are about their plans and how much they get away with. Stuff like this shows that they not only dont bother hiding their intentions, but actually even go so far as to advertise what they are going to do. Yet despite the elites basically telling people what will happen and how they will do it people just keep pretending its all just made up.

Also, one should be aware that there are many cover conspiracy theories abound that are meant as a PR strategy to obscure and discredit-by-association serious analysis of power and economy. Some people in this thread have already complained or brought up these cover conspiracies. It's good to know the history of Cass Sunstein and the origin of the term "conspiracy theorist" itself. Cass was effectively a marketing and PR expert who came up with the idea to brand critics of state policy as cranks back when the Warren commission report came out, and people rightfully tore it apart. The terminology and connotations of conspiracy were largely absent from all literature before then. It's not super spooky-spooky stuff. Basic public relations. You create something exaggerated and ridiculous, then smear your critics by associating them with that. It works great. Propagandists have done variations of this for centuries, and this is simply a recent iteration of that proven strategy. It's a very important part of history for us who live in the information age. We are rapidly approaching a moment when everything in society is too technical to approach without detailed expertise, and anybody who attempts to address the problems in the world immediately becomes a tinkerer—a crank. That will be viciously taken advantage of by people who can pay the expert's salaries.

>>50716 The number of leaders in Africa alone who have gotten murked in bizarre circumstances in the past year is absolutely beyond the pale. Add Haiti to that as well. We're talking double-digit percentages of African ministers and presidents. All put in the ground in a matter of months. Seriously. Whatever the explanation is, that is outrageously suspicious.

>>50716 Hate to be that guy who quotes Angelou, honestly. But when somebody shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM!

>>50717 It's tricky because then you get to a point where you're not sure the 'conspiracy' you believe in is a cover conspiracy or the actual 'conspiracy'. There's a lot of conspiracies out there.

>>50715 >But there is very clear evidence that there was not only reactionary, opportunistic moves by power and capital. There was pre-planning before anybody on Earth knew about covid. What evidence? Spill the beans my man

>>50725 Event 201 clearly laid out how industry leaders and NGO moneymakers would react to a pandemic and enact these measures we are seeing to corral wealth upwards, liquefy kulaks, and steal their market share. All while creating lucrative worldwide markets of mandatory products. Not to mention emergency financial products which were almost immediately handed to most of the simulation's organizers. Coincidence? Certainly could be. I'm not saying it isn't. I'm arguing that it ultimately doesn't matter. The exercises and strategies they laid out were clearly aimed towards generating profit and power off of a crisis, one that they knew was coming eventually if not immediately.

>>50724 That's a function of it. Puts one side at an advantage with information while the other is on the back foot, always having to doubt themselves and their instincts and senses as much as they doubt the power structures around them. Like I said, it works great. They'd be fools not to take advantage. Gotta keep a good head on your shoulders. A citizen really can't outsource this. Relentless self-improvement and efforts to stay grounded require discipline.

>>50727 >one that they knew was coming eventually if not immediately. I mean, people have been predicting worldwide pandemics like this for decades. It's an obvious prediction when you consider how interconnected the world is these days. Makes sense that people who profit off misery would plan out exactly how they would do it even if they weren't sure what *exactly* would happen.

>>50765 also previous pandemic scares (swine flu, SARS, ebola, zika) definitely would put the notion of pandemic profiteering on the map for those in the know.

>>50765 It's been one of the criticisms about globalism and rampant tourism.

>>50691 Is it true that protestant psychopaths that live along us fellow humans on this planet and known as "anglosphere" force everyone among themselves into wearing masks even after vaccination and positive test for antibodies?

bbc reported about disclosed documents that show gain of function research on rona in wuhan. Its literally public information now that the virus is a lab result. So the indian guys who said its artificial at the start were right all along and everyone else was a bunch of cope.

I visited an local library today and all recristions, including mandatory masks on employees, time restrictions and lack of access to library wireless network were absent. Suppose everything is not that bad at my location. Any other library goers want to tell about their local situation?

>>50785 I live in a Republican-controlled state thank god, so it's not nearly as bad as a lot of places. Hoping the flood of turbolibs fleeing the states that their own political sickness ruined won't destroy mine in the near future... But I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

>>50770 Yeah. People who think it actually came out of a meat market across the street from a CORONAVIRUS GAIN OF FUNCTION RESEARCH LABORATORY frustrate the hell out of me. I mean come on, who dropped this guy on his head

>>50802 oh what kind of government ? would you like in France or some other Unitarian state ?

>>50803 I'm still inclined to believe it's wet markets because the lab narrative makes China look better (although I wouldn't rule it out entirely). Call me a retard or whatever. Would you rather be known as the state that deliberately engineered a virus that shut down much of the world (and could do it again); or the state that, through a mix of sheer incompetence, terrible management, and poor living conditions, fumbled your way into a public health crisis? If you're a country that wants to appear strong on the world stage, it's probably the former.

>>50815 Not sure I see the logic here. They definitely could have made a pathogen and jumped it to humans, they have the capability. Plus US funding and research, since it was essentially an outsourced operation.. Accidental or not is a different question. But c'mon it didn't come from people eating strange animals in a wet ditch. It came from the nearby biotech lab with the virus in its damn name lol. It only took a couple months to find the animal reservoir for SARS. Yet for this one we still have nothing? China follows around people trying to find it with soldiers btw. And the US is apparently just fine with that. It's pretty obvious what happened.

>>50765 Yeah precisely, that's kind of my point. It could be a complex, organic, emergent situation without "grand conspiracy" characteristics—yet still be premeditated. People with a certain amount of power spend a lot of time and money on think tanks assessing future possibilities, risks, and opportunities. Including spooky ones. Finding a very likely event and letting it happen offers plausible deniability as well

>>50832 Someone gets it. It's not a conspiracy, I try to tell people all the time. But no, it's all Rothschild and Jews and world elite and one world government. It's so fuggin ridiculous. Why don't people want to understand, that not everything is planned and executed exactly according to plan?

>>50897 The modern worldview is fundamentally anthropocentric. These popular "conspiracies" need to rely on a theme of central hegemonic order because to be popular they cannot in actuality be opposed to the mainstream worldview which since the modern age has been one of global order. It is still taught to us since a young age and it is very normal for us to assume that the world is mapped and conquered. Of course at the same just any few kilometer radius from any of us is going to be full of things we do not understand, which we will never think to look for and which we will never see or hear or even imagine, so clearly we don't have the world under control but someone must else the world we believe in is false. In my opinion it's symptomatic of a paradigm shift, places outside of the west have a bit of a head start in the postmodern world since having dealt with being unable to tell themselves that they rule the world for a long time, but we'll get there too. People are increasingly vocal about other races and all the classical fears we've always had, but I think you have to view that in the context that what people say, do or think is losing its weight around here too. Like tied dogs barking loud as long as they're tied. I've always wondered why 9/11 was such a big deal but I think we are so afraid of terror because we do not know it anymore, especially the USA has been sowing terror around the world so long while untouched that it must lead to a great insecurity about karma being around the corner. I keep thinking about this popular meme that hard times lead to great people, doesn't that kind of reveal that we think now that hard times mean getting up early and going to work instead of war, starvation and slavery? We aren't so much developing virtual reality technology as we've revealed that we inhabit fantasy worlds increasingly far removed from each other. We think when terror comes it's something we'll valiantly vanquish, some kind of outside evil that we will repel, instead of something that we will submit to.

>>50691 >Mandatory vaccination, world ID, ... It's the cyberpunk dystopia I expected, but not the one I wished for. Perfectly valid concerns >a digital satanic Mark of the Beast And you just lost me to go into the nonsense world of the burger-munching Jesus-freaks.

>>50897 Well the WEF (Rothschilds) IMF, and Gates foundation are definitely heavily involved. That's the thing. It's still a situation where human agency is conspiring to wreck our lives for profit and control. Just not necessarily so perfectly centralized, not necessarily planned out down to the thirty-second interval. Threading that needle is a bit of nuance often lost, which is a shame. >>50907 It still holds power as a parable, no idea if that's how it was meant.

> And you just lost me to go into the nonsense world of the burger-munching Jesus-freaks. Are you unable to parse metaphors or hyperboles?

>>50907 Whole sadness of the situation, is no matter how coincidentally our reality follows doomsday texts these people believe in, even if induced through ritualistic larping among so-called "elite" circles, inevitably Jeebus comes in the end to kick the bad guy's ass and redeem every human soul of suffering. Burgers, and in reality most people brought up on judeochristian values, even those of marxist atheist worldview always see a collapse of oppression as a way out of their current state of misery. In reality we get a boot stamping on our face forever. There will likely be no total collapse of the system, those who are smart to manipulate us into current state will ensure to prolong our suffering and heighten their power-profits.

>>50897 While I agree that it's likely just capitalist greed and power hunger causing much of this, it would be foolish to completely ignore the Jewish influence present. The issue with these Christian prophecies is that the death cult leads to inaction, since YHWH is just going to swoop in and save the day, and when one observes the Jewish influence, perhaps these similarities are purposeful.

Why does the fact that I am not wearing an mask and I am not taking the COVID vaccine trigger other people so much?

>>50952 because if a supervillain engineers a virus to wipe organic life out ( for example , an angry ai ) the misanthrope wins on account of your stupidity . yes , covid is fake ( engineered in a lab , for event 201 ) but the training serves a real purpose .

https://www.c-span.org/video/?465845-1/universal-flu-vaccine ACTUAL 100% PROOF VIDEO OF PLANNING PLANDEMIC TWO MONTHS BEFORE WUHAN OUTBREAK

>>50935 >In reality we get a boot stamping on our face forever. til the boot crumbles into dust, sure.

>>50691 Recently got a tooth pulled, feel paranoid about the novocain injections.... like they were covertly vaxxing me or something. I don't know.

>>50907 Yeah, no one gives a fuarrrk whether or where guys like you get "lost". Suck it up, soykafhead.

>>51039 Wow, you're so cool and edgy!

>>51039 I give a fuarrrk. You btfo =============================

In italy soykaf is hitting the fan. People are protesting all the time and the workers at the ports have threatened a blockage, all in response to new measures that a) make tests mandatory for work (of course only for yours truly, the unvaccinated) and b) make tests cost 15 euros. It's truly ridiculous. What's more, Zeno D’Agostino, who is the president of the harbor authority, has announced he will step back if the blockages occur. The government is trying to compromise, but there is no compromise to be made. It's filthy how the government attempted to make companies pay for their employees, but only in the logistics sector. Supposedly Paolo Uggè, the president of Conftrasporto-Confcommercio, has said there is the very real threat of workers immigrating if this soykaf keeps happening. Personally I can't wait for the conflict to escalate and things to change, governments can't continue on blindly prescribing their new flavor of fascism on a regular basis.

>>51038 Imagine being this paranoid about a flu shot.

>>51154 what are you trying to distract us from ? the real world can wait . we have problems in front of our faces as we speak . what can we do about problems in Italian polities if we don't all know Italian ?

tell more of your people to learn Toki Pona , Esperanto , Lojban , or Ithkuil so we can communicate in meaningful ways either both like children or neither in the meanwhile , tell us to struggle against the hatred , fear , and cruelty surrounding us including but not especially our own .

>>51156 Let me make it simple for you: if this thing is happening somewhere and it constitutes a form of resistance that might serve to combat authoritative measures, chances are it can happen elsewhere too. It's a case study, it's an inspiration, it's an example, it's a recipe to be improved upon, call it what you will. Mandatory vaccines, health proof in order to work, tests that cost money, the problems are very similar in other countries where the same measures are beginning to pop up, especially European ones, so this is very much relevant to the thread. I'm not even Italian. Why would you call it a distraction?

>>51159 its arguable if the problem is a problem . this pandemic in many ways prepares us for if a terror group ever engineered a worse one . a virus costs less than a nuke . what about the state of the internet or the people ? look at how we treat each other , then ask how we can avoid a dystopia .

>>51160 Yes, we need to treat each other better, I wholeheartedly agree. But if this is your stance, I don't see the case for these pandemic measures. With corona tests for an otherwise healthy populace we are assuming all people to be disease carriers, until proven otherwise. We have essentially begun to institutionalize this assumption worldwide and it has already caused so much division. You needn't look further than a very special subset of this division, the arguments between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. I haven't met anyone who said our measures are sane, they either lean extremely into one direction or the other, we are doing too much, or too little. It is honestly enough. When the status quo was that everyone can use useful innovations like new vaccines as tools to protect themselves it was a healthier climate for discussion. Granted, we already had some division on this field before the pandemic was a thing, but people weren't threatening each others livelihoods. If a highly lethal virus were to circulate, I imagine the response would have been vastly different. This oddball mix between doing enough to look good as a politician and too little to be effective can't be it. So yeah, we need to treat each other better. Let's begin by assuming a healthy looking person might actually be a healthy person.

>>51160 Covid 19 is already pretty much as close to the worst that you could get. Its highly transmissible and good at evading the immune system but still makes some people really sick for long periods of time. Its conceivable that genetic engineering could make it even deadlier and/or more transmissible, but that is unlikely to occur naturally (usually diseases evolve towards being harmless and easily transmissible). But that would require a multimillion-dollar bioengineering lab. If covid was a bioweapon to start with I think its unlikely whoever made it would even try for better -- they probably got everything they wanted out of this one, assuming its release was intentional.

>>51168 HAHAHAHA The black death killed 50% of Europe, Covid 19 killed like 10 people

>>51168 Nah it can get real bad naturally but not high probability. Essentially horizontal gene transfer means it could in theory mix with other viruses like SARS and MERS. This is rare among viruses though and horizontal gene transfer doesn't always lead to a heardier result sometimes it's weaker.

>>51169 the black death is also trivially easy to get rid of when you have modern germ theory, just like tuberculosis. You bet your ass if ebola was around 150 years ago it would have killed millions. Instead the biggest outbreak ever killed about 30k people (instead of "like 10" meaning several million in your post) >>51175 Sure but it's unlikely is all I'm saying.

>>51161 I am talking about online . fuarrrk the "real" world . I cannot be happy in security of my basement with the others whom I share the most . Why should I care about the happiness in your restaurants filled with dissonant strangers who don't comprehend internet culture ? Why should I care more about Italy than the internet ?

I am not suggesting something anti-social . of course many Lains live in Italy and I love them.. and what their happiness... but , seriously , lets stop looking away from the problems at home .

If it were 30 years ago this virus would not mean soykaf. Journalism was still alive. People still had a sense of community and were far healthier in the western world. The relationship between technology and society had not yet progressed into the inescapable turnkey tyranny as we have now. Maybe we could have steered world society away from living under runaway consumerism and dependence of environmentally destructive practicies... but humanity was probably 100 years too late to make that change. fuarrrk it all. Most of my life I've seen the actions of politicians fight tooth and nail against the logic that they are there to represent the people that elected them. People being blind to overseas genocide. People not giving soykaf of being victims of predatory systems and failing to criticize why that is. And what, there's going to be a fuarrrking revolution? We're hopelessly conditioned to the luxuries, threats, and technology of our systems to ever hope for any drastic difference. Good luck starting your untouched continent of primitive hunter-gatherers, because unless we do that or... honestly, diligently, and benevolently evolve technology to race the toxic heat death of this planet, we're all certainly fuarrrked. Obviously, the only people capable for change have no intention of honoring either solution. If nature doesn't wipe us out first, the capstone will do it with technology. I don't know how anybody that can see this clearly for what it is could have hope for the future. World War 3 started before the first World War, and what a foregone conclusion that is. This is just Act 2 of a devastating extinction event. That said, I'm glad to be a human at this time and place in infinite spacetime. It's pretty swell with a bit of luck.

>>51154 >In italy soykaf is hitting the fan Didn't soykaf hit the fan in Italy straight up in the beginning of the whole thing? That's what I heard from the news at least. Right when "COVID" began there was military on the streets and people singing from their balconies etc

>>51038 I've been insanely worried about this as well. I'm scared to go to the dentist or the doctor over just about anything. I really wish I could find some doctor that I could fully trust. Sadly, the only one that I ever did died back in 2010. Haven't been able to stick with a doctor ever sense. I'm constantly changing where I'm going. Everyone in the medical field has been shady as fuarrrk for years and only proving themselves to be more and more of frauds with everything going on now. It's ruthless and disgusting!

>>51187 Yes but it's a different kind of soykaf hitting the fan. It's not the fear of the virus that is escalating, it's the fear of the authoritarianism. I can only pray it will cause something to change for the better.

>>51188 >Everyone in the medical field has been shady as fuarrrk for years and only proving themselves to be more and more of frauds with everything going on now. I feel exactly the same. They are all more willing to prescribe their patients with medicine and antibiotics than a proper diet, exercise and fasting. I want to take care of my health and not be sold products and temporary solutions by the elites and mega corporations.

>>51190 It's sad because it's all about bonuses and greed with these people instead of helping others or proving actual healthcare. It's exactly why healthcare needs to be treated as a human right rather than a corporate business.

>>51193 *providing actual healthcare sorry for the typo there.

>>51186 True dat. My only hope is this whole thing escelates beyond control for any party involved and civilization will crash and burn soon enough before its too late. >>51187 That is true, soykaf was/is real bad, i have no idea what is really going on, but ive written italy off already. >>51188 The system, particulary medical ones cannot be trusted. The whole medical establishment is one big mafia that poisons peoples minds and bodies en mass and hoaxes everyone. Its not just doctors, medical institutions and the pharma mafia, but insurances, banks, not to mention advertising and all sorts of bullshit schemes. I mean who knows whats in all that crap they sell, they can label anything with anything, you cant tell one pill from another, doctors only need to be told what they think is in it. A friend of the family is a nurse, she said pharmaceuticals are there to treat people and not heal them, the industry, far more than just medical mind you, makes fortunes by keeping people unhealthy. Now you can push blame at whoever you like, but bitter fact is that the economic system the way it works will encourage and reward this behaviour. >>51189 Yes and people just go along, keep quiet and comply hoping that things will just go away, completely oblivious to the fact that they have surrendered their freedom and health to a tyranical system that has a track record of being downright abusive and oppressive. They give control right to the ones who coerce them into it and think all that control will not be used further against them. What is so utterly shameful to me is how people not only just go with the program, but the fact that program was broken from the very beginning and just caused all this. Once they get the shot and their vax pass they just go move on further with the literally diseased daily life in this excuse for civilization, which is almost literally a huge dumpster fire. Problems that cause us to become sick have been amplified to almost the point of no return, but all people bitch about is this puny excuse for a flu, while a very real threat is not only how poisonous the western lifestyle is, but also the fact that we destroy the environment so much more further that it might become impossible to live healthy. Not to mention all the other bullshit people cry about, millions died over years, but nobody gave a soykaf, suddenly when the idiot boxes tell the zombies to rally to some sort of social action, they all rally and cry like they fuarrrking care, they dont care, they never did or they would have taken real action. We basically live worse than farm animals, food is full with pesticides, steroids, modified genes and god knows what else, while the air is full with fumes and electrosmog(dont say its not real). And this is what people get the fax for, to keep running this soykafshow so we can put more microplastic into the water until no life on earth is healty anymore. Every asshole is driving around in its own car with the mask on in the car, empty busses and trains running twice cuz of the plague, but filled with as many people as a car. Then theres those 5 star idiot assholes who come up with "muh 'science'", bringing up rigged statistics as a justification for not having to think for themselfs, no better than the smartzombies who stare at the idiot box all day long. The system is completely corrupt and broken, if we dont put a radical stop to it then the end will be far worse than this bullshit cough. Society is utterly diseased too, i cant tell if thats an effect or the cause, but its obvious if you live a ill life like they try to sell it to you, then only sickness will be the effect. The people who keep going along with this stuff in my country are cowardly traitors and retard level idiots, they are only one step less lower than the filthy pigs enforcing this, the world would be better off if they would all be lined up and shot.

>>51196 >Hello guys, welcome back to your daily dose of blackpills. You're even worse than me while I'm drunk. Get a grip, the world is not black and white. And the world is not all one country. Maybe your country has tons of bad docs, but I got a few rural doctors around me, who do their jobs very well, and always prioritize natural healing over medication. Also, by that logic of yours, nothing can be trusted. Food, drink, medication, education, information... And that route inevitably leads down to tinfoil hats and flat earth.

>>51201 >says trust nothing >trusts flat earth fuarrrking fool

>>51186 >We're hopelessly conditioned to the luxuries, threats, and technology of our systems to ever hope for any drastic difference. Historically, successful revolutions happen when 1) the ruling class loses legitimacy in the eyes of the public 2) government institutions are incompetent (almost didn't include this one because it is the norm, but I guess it is an ingredient) 3) a critical mass of people are hungry. we have (1) and (2) already, and (3) is bound to happen eventually when a bad enough famine hits. >>51196 >We basically live worse than farm animals spoken like somebody who's never actually worked on a farm. I bet you sleep indoors on a bed.

>>51206 >we have (1) and (2) already, and (3) is bound to happen eventually when a bad enough famine hits. Yeah, but what happens during and after any revolution at this point? Population control, regime change, and controlled revolutions are practically how wars have been fought for a good while. Even if any upcoming revolution is pure and legitimate, technology and global infrastructure nearly guarantee a power vacuum that will be left exploitable to the current capstone. And if that power vacuum is seized by the well-meaning people, what do you think they'll fill it with? It'll probably be capitalism with a littering of factories and stupid fuarrrking phones. It's like cutting off a gangrenous limb of a sugar-addicted diabetic... it'll provide relief for a while, but it ultimately doesn't solve the core issue.

>>51207 obviously revolutions aren't always a good thing. Usually they aren't. But rapid and very radical change can happen.

>>51205 >reads my argument >lol you say trusting nothing means flat earth good are you genuinely retarded?

>>51211 no u bimbo trust nothing would include not trusting flat earth tdlr: your reasoning is garbage

>>50691 got my second shot a few months ago. are there any real concerns that i need to be aware of, or is it all soycaf?

>>51213 You have precisely 1.75 years to live.

>>51213 I wonder if that ice cream is flavored with real juice. Probably shouldn't have gotten that shot. Destroyed capillaries, blood and immune system disorders, and immunity-as-a-subscription plan as any natural immunity is repeatedly destroyed and contributing to the currently increasing CFR due to evolutionary pressure towards lethality... yeah prooobably the wrong move dude.

>>51213 >are there any real concerns that I need to be aware of? yeah your house has deadly mold in it so you're fuarrrked. FR though you're never going to get a straight answer about this. There's a ton of misinformation out there, real criticism gets drowned out by morons repeating buzzwords.

>>51216 Considering the difference between 'good information' and 'misinformation' is the answer to, "has it been acknowledged as real by the FDA/CDC/WHO?" Studies that suggest anything negative are either deemed not conclusive enough or are damned to their own bubble in which if referred to by any 3rd party will be met with the so-called 'misinformation' label. And it's not like the professionals aren't looking at that data as well, but in acknowledgment just get pressured, punished, and gaslit a step back to something more institutionally acceptable, or else suffer damage or loss to their career and a damaged reputation if they pursue those uncomfortable avenues too hard. Funny how little the FDA committee's 16-2 vote against boosters last month means now. Much like how myocardisis and periocardisis was once misinformation. As we find out more about how these vaccines work (?!) I'm sure we'll find more misinformation become relegated as approved information in time. Financial incentivization, institutional pressure, and bias have really fuarrrked any chance of honest professional analysis... so here we are with idiots such as myself saying what they won't say. There is also the sheer negligence of rolling out these vaccines with a known harmful lipid nanoparticle delivery system, which before the pandemic threatened the future of Moderna as they scrambled to find another delivery method. And yet, Pfizer uses that same troublesome LNP (Arbutus) today. Oh, and don't get me started on biased and deceptive statistics that do more as ad campaigns than actual information. Died from covid or with? Side effect or coincidential illness? Resulted in a reduction of symptoms or just covid symptoms? Is that Israeli vaccinated? VAERS is a broken bullshit system born out of minimum liability and responsibility, too. It's easy to trash because it is trash. As basic as fuarrrk as it can be said: This is a new therapy with no long term human safety data. It has issues. The consensus of the frequency and severity of these issues is contentious. You will need boosters, and there is no evidence boosters will secure longer immunity than the initial regimen. However, the gut feeling of the scientific community is that the data will support covid vaccines and the boosters. LOL... can I have some AZT with that?

>>51217 The beauty of it is you can use the accepted sources to break it apart. cdcs own studies show its a soykafshow. Its just takes effort cause the wording and data is formatted in a biased way which means you need to read it fully and take it apart but its still doable. The problem is dumbfucks get iq filtered and cant follow the reasoning even if you point it out. So its only usable for personal use which is likely also why its allowed to exist in this form.

>>51218 Yup, certainly. Some of the most damning things have been straight from the horse's mouth.

>>51217 >Considering the difference between 'good information' and 'misinformation' is the answer to, "has it been acknowledged as real by the FDA/CDC/WHO?" It really would be nice if it were that simple, wouldnt it?

>>51218 >The problem is dumbfucks get iq filtered and cant follow the reasoning even if you point it out. Indeed, if you pretend to be retarded you can interpret a study however you wish.

I don't get how people are still "doing their own research." I didn't trust the pharmaceutical companies, so my research consisted of all my friends getting it, and then they were fine, so I got it too, and now I'm fine. It's not early 2021 anymore. Are you all just scared of needles and afraid to admit it? Didn't your mother ever bring you to get the flu shot?

>>51225 What if I have no friends to examine?

>>51226 That's fair, I don't know. I'd tell you to trust me, but that's pretty obviously a little silly... Perhaps if your family's gotten it? Would ensure there's no way adverse reactions are in your genetics, at least.

>>51212 Alright, you definitely are retarded, because flat earth is mistrust of the round earth. Or are you saying that you don't trust anything, but round earth is objectively right because it can be observed? Because it can't, from our perspective, the earth is flat, that means you're wrong and flat earth is objectively right by that logic. And don't call me bimbo, you dickpolishingmachine.

>>51213 Got my second shot half a month ago, biontech all the way. No adverse reactions so far. It's indeed better, since I can take off the mask more often. That thing has lead me to being short-breathed over the last few months, and I'm glad I'm slowly getting rid of it. So, definitely an improvement. >>51217 Considering the fact, that covid critics often use official statistics in the wrong situations, and even combined completely different stats and countries in an argument to prove their point, something they attribute to the other side, something they were called out on already, I'm more inclined to see official sources as credible. If you don't believe me, look at what sources are used in covid-critics infographics and argumentations, and you will find very interesting combinations of misused statistics, false conclusions, and deliberate lies to deceive everyone gullible enough to believe that stuff without second checking. And to top it off, most of the covid critics are pretty active on social media, or have something to offer for your protection, almost like they gain something from the spread of misinformation.

>>51225 There are new papers coming out everyday and they show clearly that the effects of the vaccines is not well understood yet >my research consisted of all my friends getting it, and then they were fine, so I got it too It is very bad to make decisions based on small anecdotal data

>>51229 No whether the Earth seems flat or round depends on what situation you're in. There are various situations it appears round to a casual observer.

>>51229 >Because it can't, from our perspective, the earth is flat Yes you can. Travel straight East for 3189 kilometers. Then travel straight North for 3178.4 kilometers. Then make a 90 degree turn left and travel South for 3178.4 kilometers. You should arrive within a few dozen kilometers from where you started, assuming you navigated well. In the end you will have traced out a triangle whose interior angles add up to 270 degrees. It is easy to prove that this is impossible in Euclidean geometry, therefore the surface of the Earth cannot be flat on a large scale. In fact you can calculate the radius of the Earth with this information. You can do it with a way smaller triangle too, but it takes a little more math. In general, big enough triangles drawn on the surface of the earth will have interior angles adding up to more than 180 degrees.

>>51234 yes, this high quality thread is being derailed

>>51229 See thats why you u a bimbo your thinking is limited to binary bullshit Distrust doesn't lead to believing in the opposite. Thats just being a contrarian idiot. Its why modern politics is such a soykafshow. If you aint left you must be right. Third position? Unimaginable.

So I got the double jab. Some reason I've started hearing a voice in my head saying "Shoot the $COUNTRYLEADER. You will eat the bugs, you will take the meds, they are good for you! You will own nothing." Really strange.

>>51157 >>51156 >>50955 This guy is the most idiotic and annoying troll on any imageboard.

Vaccine/COVID skepticism is being used as a cover for contract tracing skepticism. If you want to have an actually interesting discussion, strip away the "hurr durr vaccine is gonna kill people but COVID won't" soykaf and look at the companies getting involved in contract tracing. What is Carbyne?

>>51230 >And to top it off, most of the covid critics are pretty active on social media That is biased, most of the on social media vocal covid critics are pretty active on social media. You wouldn't know the size of this population by wandering the streets, whereas on social media it is much easier to get a sample. In fact, there are probably more non-critics both in real life and social media. It's apparent in your post that you have written off covid critics, even though some of them have something legitimate to say. You've written them off, because they are liars, social media addicts and corrupt. How can you be so polarized, when the non-critics often enough suffer the same?

>>51262 Its pretty self-evident by vaccination rates that most people didn't participate until forced by vacc or homeless policies. And social media if anything has a pro-bias since they derezzed negative reports. So public stance overall is much more negative than social media would allude to

>>51155 a flu shot that hasn't been tested as extensively as other vaccines.

>>51270 >Its pretty self-evident by vaccination rates that most people didn't participate until forced by vacc or homeless policies. Or they just didn't care.

>>51236 >Its why modern politics is such a soykafshow. If you aint left you must be right. Third position? Unimaginable. Absolutely this! People instantly have to have this whole left/right political stance bullshit when both are equally just flat out stupid! These puppets in charge don't give a soykaf about anything but lining up their own pockets with power and greed!

>>51282 Indifference would belong into the not agreeing its important to do pot. Biz also knows most customers leave without leaving a bad review or filling the feedback box above the exit button. Most dont care to tell you their opinion.

>>51305 >count terminally ill as unvacced deads >vacced doesnt count anymore unless you got booster so your vacced case counts into unvacced >avoid mentioning theta is ironically worse among vacced marketing will continue until everyone pays pharma their money

>>51307 Dude, the vax is fuarrrking free (I guess it is included in your income tax, but it's still a negligible amount compared to the other things that money goes to).

>>51308 nothing is free. Where do you think health insurance price increase went to? shots are ~90. Now count the millions of people and multiply. Last time swine flu they made some loss cause people didn't take it and so massive stockpiles didn't sell. Now you got a worldwide marketing campaign with guaranteed sales thanks to lobbying. On top of that they made sure competition was derezzed and price hiked with the manufactured semi monopoly. The lack of discussion of the financial aspect just shows how dire the financial illiteracy is.

>>51307 Whats great is that it has at least revealed to the common man how genuinely awful and wrong academia is. Enjoy fudging numbers and all those sweet, sweet grants for pushing $THE-MESSAGE! >>51308 >moves the goalpost halfway through finishing their first sentence I genuinely do appreciate you guys. It's a cognitive dissonance you can see!

>>51305 Natural selection is fun! t. evolution

>>51309 Yeah it really amazes me more people aren't talking about how the pharma corps are basically profiteering off this. Even the most pro-vaccine milquetoast liberal should be deeply offended and angered by this if they have any real principles. But they seem to mostly just shrug their shoulders.

>>51307 Sad thing is this has been going on for years, not at this scale, but obviously it had been going on this way. Whats worse is there are so many sheeple who actually will keep going down that road and think its a good thing we keep pumping money in poison and keep up this soykaf unhleathy lifestyle that cause all this crap in the firstplace. >>51313 I was just gonna rant at >>51308, but you told it better than i could. Its simply amazing in a fuarrrked up way for real how people can think the monetary system stops applying if the state gives something you. I mean ffs do people really believe benches and public toilets are free too? Not to mention the 1000+ other crap that nobody really needs anyway. Also as of 2022, no jab no job, fuarrrk it was neet for 30 years at this point might well do another. The worst part is how i talked to my friends and we can all agree that now were the healthy ones, both mentally and physically and its true. Even though were completely fuarrrked up and its a miracle any single one of us survived, let alone manages a daily life of some sort is even weirder. I hear a lot of people cough chronically real bad like since resent, all people who seem to wear masks a whole lot, i dont know its just me or has anyone else noticed? One of said friends went to doctor cuz of flu, so he didnt cause panic at work for coughing, what the doctor told him is to not show up near a hospital, dont remember the whole story but that should about tell you how utterly fuarrrked things are.

>>51314 >I mean ffs do people really believe benches and public toilets are free too? >Not to mention the 1000+ other crap that nobody really needs anyway. honestly I think benches and public toilets are not examples of things that nobody really needs.

>>51325 No they are not, thats why i said >the 1000+ other crap In fact i would say public toilets and benches are about the only good things about the state, but point being they are not free either, but you dont hear anyone bitching for not using them.

>>51236 >your thinking is limited to binary left-right >t. left-right-binarybrain stop projecting. I am perfectly aware of the political circus, that is only there to distract everyone from the actual problems. >>51313 People who scream about the vacc are either contrarians, conspiratards or profit from the former two. Nobody who actually has any life and obligations gives two sh!ts about this whole situation. That's the entire truth of this. Nobody. Cares. This place is one of the few, where autists like us come together to talk about the world, and we are the only ones who care, because we don't have a social life to worry about, and we spend our time arguing with other lainons about this sh!t. And we are not being heard. This is a small room filled with sweating, smoking, drinking, shooting up autistic tards, talking about world events, on scales that the regular person cannot even comprehend. What we do here, is not the rule, but an extremely rare exception. Maybe we should start compiling threads into text files and printing small pamphlets for public dissemination. Maybe this will help make people aware...

>>51331 ah i see. Your post was ambiguous. >>51341 I'd really rather not have legitimate critical analysis mixed up with all the stupid bullshit of these threads.

>>51343 i prefer bundling up responses in one post. It saves thread space. btw, i just found something to respond to. >>51309 you're right, nothing is free. But compared to paying the whole cost of the vaccination yourself, you're paying a fraction of the cost through tax/insurance fees. The whole concept of insurance/health care builds upon the reduction of the cost of risk. The risk of getting sick gets increasingly less frightening, the more people put money into the pot. It is a fact, that this whole thing is a big opportunity for big profits for big pharma. But if you think about all the other big projects, that are basically nothing but tax drains for the sake of profit, it all falls into place, and you'll start to understand that there is nothing outrageous about it. Not anymore outrageous than letting thousands of tons of food rot, instead of giving it away, or pumping millions into building an airport, which doesn't even get finished. Nova Roma.

>>51347 You're always paying the whole cost of something that everyone gets. Insurance only works for cost offloading if it happens 1 in 10000 people so the cost of the 1 case can be shared by 10000. Secondary all the mandatory insurance systems are corrupt. Because people believe the free meme they never check on whats going on which allows blatant price hiking. Simplest example being insurance making deals where you get a more expensive version rather than the generic and the public pays the difference of course because wasted money equals higher insurance pay.

>>51347 I was frustrated listening to the news... >Government discussing 2x weekly covid tests for students to return to class (lmao teachers cant even afford to make photocopies due to budget cuts) >Moderna saying intellectual property rights cover THEIR vaccine, and THEY are acting in the best interest of the world (despite getting hundreds of millions of taxpayer moneys for development) >Government refusing to take action against companies for what they consider to be the worst megavirus of the earth Basically, society cares enough to infringe upon the rights of individuals due to "public safety" but companies are shielded from the same treatment because profit? In 2019 I said it was either a lab leak or viral weapon based on all the facts surrounding wuhan... People made fun of me and called me a crazy conspiracy theorist, but at this point nobody cares enough to even talk to me about it. Everyone just wants free covid gibs without thinking about the impact. Everyone has changed from a job to market speculation on robinhood as a "self made investor." We are restructuring the world economy to literally hopes and dreams. Logistics supply chains are failing because everyone thinks they can make more money by holding out, not realizing that everything is going to go to soykaf if nobody supports basic societal functions for food and fuel distribution. Covid was never as bad as the government and media said it was (else we would be under full on viral warfare protocols) but society got too far, won't admit it and now believes anything that "professionals" say without looking at their profit margins which have better returns better than investing in bonds from failing countries. Why do I feel like we are stuck in some kind of chimera comedy hell of the movies idiocracy, V for vendetta, and new kids turbo.

Breaking today: NIH admits Fauci lied to US Congress over Gain of Function https://www.infowars.com/posts/nih-admits-funding-gain-of-function-covid-experiments-gives-ecohealth-five-days-to-report-data/ https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=6171d73d10d8890db5fa8c2e Just this week: Davos Group announces Vaccine ID/Passport that uses blood test, and is tied to carbon tax: https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=616df9830cf38701b34098f2 Alex Jones is the only person with reach who is reporting the actual news, with fact logic and reason.

oh my fuarrrking god why is the world so fuarrrked? people debating whether the unvaccinated should be locked up, paying for tests they need almost everywhere in order to enter. why not just sterilize them and cut off the supply of lesser human beings? what the fuarrrk is going on, it's all so insane. people say we run the risk of authority spiralling out of control, but that has already happened. taking a step back and examining the timeline and slow changes of the fabric of our society makes me want to kill myself. let's mandate drug tests too, no entry anywhere for the evil cannabis user, until proven sober for the last week. I'm amazed at my patience, as it is already autumn in 2021, but it's definitely run out now. any dumb fuarrrks who seriously consider implementing further authoritarian measures for people who are not as sm4rt and rich in solidarity as they are deserve to burn in this hell of their own making. it's like no one even realizes that none of this soykaf we are discussing now wasn't even possible not even a year ago. we've been mass hypnotized, our minds raped and perhaps it is time to concede that all hope might actually be lost. fuarrrk this dumb earth

>>51549 >people debating whether the unvaccinated should be locked up That debate exists only because they themselves were/are locked up because of the varus. They think that if the unvaccinated were simply shot, they would get their lives back. The companies encourage this because it means they get more customers without doing a damn thing. A bit like the situation with insurance companies. >we've been mass hypnotized, our minds raped and perhaps it is time to concede that all hope might actually be lost. Honestly the people freaking out over that stuff are in the minority, most people just don't care enough to stand up to it because to most people it's just another thing they have to do to play the game, like paying taxes or rent. In a lot of ways rent is a bigger intrusion on life than any vaccine. So most people are fine with the vaccine because they already get buttfucked a hundred times worse every month and have been for generations.

Unfortunately ended up getting the shot last month since I work with/am frequently around high risk oldies/ill. Hopefully I do not wind up a """statistic"""

>>51577 Do a d-dimer test and post results pleaseeeee

>>51584 Lucky for you, I am having routine lab work done soon(tm). Maybe I'll cross compare with last years.

In my country it has gotten to the point where we will soon see larger protesting against the covid tyranny. The bubble is bursting hard now after too many correct tinfoil predictions became reality and the media propaganda went a bit too far making it obvious that our land of "free press" has pretty much been taken over by Pfizer. Pushing for mandatory vaccinations, more passport control, crying about hospital load when it is completely fine, child vaccinations and dehumanizing unvaccinated people with sensational language in all media has become the norm. There is no room for expressing opposing views. All kinds of schilling on forums has also become obvious. This is all starting to look very bad, and people are starting to worry we end up like other totalitarian states. I wonder how it is in other countries, especially in Europe. I know there have been massive protests in France and Italy for a while. Are they leading to anything?

>>51587 well France has a long history of huge protest movements that end up not really doing anything, so I doubt this time would be any different.

I disagree to take the American developed COVID-19 vaccines, on the count of political reasons. Is there anyway to get a Chinese or Russian developed COVID-19 vaccination, like CoronaVac, and have it count as "valid" on an American/Western European influenced country's vaccine passport? Otherwise I refuse to take one. The people in this thread talking about how they took the American vaccines [and are fine] are puppets of the American industrial machine, so too are the people whining about blood clots. All America's intellectual and creative output in the past 50 years has been solely motivated by the profit margins of corporations, and I refuse to add to this cultural decline. Whether or not the vaccines cause blood clots isn't even a conversation that serious people should be having.

>>51592 >can i make other vaccs count Nope, they literally recommended getting vacced again with their crapshot so you get your goodboy stamp and can get your rights back

>>51592 depends where. Most colleges are very international and they're interested in boosting their vaccination numbers as high as possible so they;ll probably take it. But just like international ID, most randos on the street will probably think it's fake. Also unsure about airlines.

>>51598 official eu guidelines say it doesnt count, i would doubt colleges could ignore that. Which is why i wrote >>51597 You could perhaps skirt the rules and get recuperated status cause i would assume you would test positive with the vacc identical to someone who went through rona.

>>51574 >In a lot of ways rent is a bigger intrusion on life than any vaccine. I don't disagree with you, but there is an important distinction you have to make: you can't reverse the decision to use some medicine and using some medicine has a direct influence on your body, your person so to speak. There was a time where we respected people's bodily autonomy, but those times are gone. With rent those two properties are not satisfied, unless you want to argue that scraping money to pay rent has a least an indirect influence on your body because you need to work. >Honestly the people freaking out over that stuff are in the minority Yet another indication that we are going insane. It's a depressing state of affairs in any case.

>>51599 >recuperated status Is that a real thing? I thought Western orgs "recommend" people who have already had COVID and recovered to be vaxxed anyway, even though they have natural immunity.

>>51601 I don't know the global application but it gets you into university same as vacced status without mandatory testing here.They obviously still want you to vacc but its a real status that gives some benefits.

>>51601 >>51602 It is a real status, at least in Germany. The drawback is, that it only applies for 6 months, after that you are required to receive a dose of vaccination, for biontech you only get the second shot, kinda as if you already have the first dose. Maybe you can get recuperated status and wait it out, hoping for some change in policy, but I think it'll only get worse. I'd recommend researching the covid testing sheets and investing in a good printer, if you really don't want to get vaccinated. Most of the test certificates are stupid easy to fake, it is literally a sheet of paper with a signature and a "negative" or "positive". OTOH, i thought this is a cyber board? Sit down and program an app that looks just like a Corona vacc pass app. Most people don't even check the we code. And in most places, contact tracing is done through Namesheets. Anyways, good luck chummer. I already got the ambrosia, hope it doesn't kill me.

>>51604 Goddamn, I meant QR code. It's a pain to type with broken fingers.

>>51604 I've been meaning to fake tests since forever but the QR code is a bit of a bother. My idea was that you could create a fake QR code that looks like one but cannot be resolved by QR code scanners. Even if it is your fault, you can't be blamed if the person who checks your test tries to scan the code and his app doesn't work, kind of as a fallback mechanic for when people actually try to scan the QR code. Does anyone have ideas how to do that?

Do any of you ever wear the ( |_| ( |< muzzle?

Something lain may not have considered is the anonymity advantage that masks provide (especially against CCTV), so even if you're otherwise opposed to wearing them there is an alternative reason they're useful.

>>51610 i actually thought about this one. It sounds pretty good, but i once thought about the increased effort put into all those facial recognition programs, AI, deepfake (Which builds on facial recognition as far as i know) and public surveillance. What if the mask mandate is being used to train AI to recognize people based on movement patterns or eye/head shape. is this probable? i think this is possible, because i know a guy, who can recognize people by the way they walk. >>51607 I do, but only when it is absolutely mandatory, and i avoid surveillance. If i cannot, i wear caps and Sunglasses. I also try changing up my walking patterns whenever possible.

>>51611 >What if the mask mandate is being used to train AI to recognize people based on movement patterns or eye/head shape. is this probable? No, its not probable. Unsupervised online training (which is what you are talking about) is one of the hardest ways to train an AI. There's also no reason to make people wear masks just to recognize gait.

>>51611 >>51612 Gait recognition has actually been deployed by China in the past, so it's not impossible that it's being used elsewhere. Masks as an anonymity tool are still useful though since it's one less vector for identification by a camera system.

No that anti-vaxx has carved out a niche in the public mind for itself, can we do "plaster casts contain mind control chips" next?

>>51612 >>51614 You guys are late, germany just announced first automated store based on gait-recognition. You dont have to pay cashier anymore, the store recognizes you by your skeleton and deducts everything you take when you exit automated. Entirely runs on cameras everywhere. And its robust against clothing entirely since it deducts your skeleton shape based on movement.

>>51643 like I said, why would that have anything to do with masks? Also, just walk differently. Easy enough. >>51642 lmao "your pacemaker has GPS trackers!"

>>51655 because it removes incentive to have people without masks for face recognition. If you want surveillance and masks are a problem you would tell people they dont need masks. If surveillance works regardless of masks you can tell them to wear it.

>>51658 this whole way of thinking is backwards. If you don't need to see peoples faces to track them then it literally doesn't matter whether they wear masks. And it certainly has nothing to do with whether you're trying to train your AI -- the AI must already be trained.

Emergency Saturday Broadcast! Plan To Spray Magnetic Nano Particles On Global Food Supply Announced https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=617db9d6fd6cd5283c2af2b3 Nanotech Vaccines on the food and trackers in your carrots.

>>51789 >wah wah we're all going to die okay sissy

Got covid thanks to mom, and was sick for like three days. Sense of smell and taste has been wrecked for months now. Can only smell what I can only describe as a mix of soap and plastic. My food taste bland and awful that I drown it in condiments. sorry about the blog but it brings me to my next point. People who claim it isn't real and saying it's a flu are stupid and I feel no sympathy for them when they get fuarrrked.But I hate this mandatory vaccine nonsense. I already got it and I really dont see why I need it. Anytime I ask for an explanation on how it will keep me safe I dont get a real answer. I'm getting tired of jumping though 20 hoops to live a "normal" life.

>>51794 loss of smell is doable with flu too. Got flu bad once as a kid and now decade later i still cant smell soykaf. Its not completely gone but its the point when people run i can start smelling it which is about the same for normal things. Oh and part of food taste is smell. Even when its in your mouth it still goes up and when smell is missing you miss part of the overall tasting experience. Welcome to the soykaf club. Hopefully you will have better success in regenerating your smell.

>>51797 You're deficient in zinc and magnesium.

>>51797 Yeah but the fact everything smells and taste like cheap garbage now is really depressing. Even stuff that doesn't really have an odor like chips taste really off.

>>51794 >I'm getting tired of jumping though 20 hoops to live a "normal" life. Just afraid that these government "measures" will never go away. I mean, why would politicians give up this power they suddenly gained willingly? And most people are totally on board with it because they think it's for a good cause ("protecting people"). They will attack you if you slightly disagree with the mandates. They're the exact kind of people who cry about POC discrimination, but when someone's denied access to education because of a medical decision (not taking the jab) they celebrate it and wish the worst for that person. God I have to finish uni already and move to the country where people aren't insane extremists.

>>51642 That would actually be pretty funny.

Maybe the efforts should be focused, first, on topics that could actually make some sense to most of the people, like the insanity of "green pass" or "mobility pass" or whatever is called in your countries. Throwing all that anti-vaccine anti-mask anti-whatever information into normal people makes them actually reject it inmediately. Just saying.

>>51802 >why would politicians give up this power they suddenly gained willingly? If somehow public opinion changed drastically. This is quite unlikely in the west because most medical professionals and journalists don't want to go against the grain - and when they do currently, they are met with censorship and ridicule. This deadlock prevents the repeal of the measures. There is a tipping point however, it's precisely when just enough people from these fields notice that going against the narrative can become profitable. with side-effects becoming more and more common as kids are mandated to get it, the "crazy conspiracy theorist" marker is sent to the bench, and is replaced by the "underdog doctor" or "cutting edge journalist" that breaks The Story. Money rules, and an opportunity appears for these people. Will you be the first to break the case, to lean into "pfizer is bad, actually"? The rebuttal to this breaking point however is that the media class and our leaders are in kahoots. State funded media would probably fear to go against the hand that feeds them. It's the people in the medical field that might have a chance. If you're The Guy, you'd get interviews, clout, get invited to conventions to talk about your findings. That's still fair game. Researchers and doctors are well connected with the rest of the world, champagne after-parties where some spicy controversy is shared.

>>51818 One thing is that they can't just keep trying to appeal to conservatives. The varus is politicized and as long as these "mavericks" have an audience of primarily conservatives, liberals won't hear it. And fact of the matter is that there are a lot more liberals than conservatives, especially in big cities.

>>51820 Yeah, it's a losing battle. But looking at the past, this cabal eats itself on the semi-regular. I'm not optimistic, but it's possible the lib consensus will undergo a mitosis, and thereafter a - profoundly stupid in unimaginable ways - Anti-Passport left could emerge. A couple months back a BLM sub-group protested in NYC against a restaurant that refused a black family because they had no passport. Now that in in of itself hasn't done a thing, but the fact that it did get a minimal amount of coverage leads me to believe in a potential bifurcation However I doubt it will be people-driven. There needs to be a division of the upper-class that have money to make by criticism and removal restrictions for any shift to happen

At the COP26 Summit, War is Declared, citing the fact that the Pandemic Response "taught us to sacrifice", and "now we must do the same thing again for the climate". (Alex Jones full show, Monday Nov 1, 2021) https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=61807e77c1526b2b32590ecc Clip: https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=618056bc464d342883708b51 Related: https://wikileaks.org/COP-26.html >>51789 https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=617c5ef424b5d9235e23c3c2 Thread Theme: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

>>51824 >but it's possible the lib consensus will undergo a mitosis This seems likely to me. The main thing holding the centrists, progressives, and socialists together in the US is the Trumpist bogeyman. >and thereafter a - profoundly stupid in unimaginable ways - Anti-Passport left could emerge. what's profoundly stupid about that? Many on the far left have been strongly against passports etc. the whole time.

>>51844 >what's profoundly stupid about that? If they do a 180, it's probably with the foresight for greener ventures, which is smart of them: they want to keep money and power. However we're talking about people who are adamantly pushing for passports and intimidation right now. If they come around, they would look profoundly stupid to backtrack because I doubt their ability to fabricate a good enough lie for such an obvious misfire. >Many on the far left have been strongly against passports etc. the whole time. I guess we might disagree on the definition of far left then. In my environment the far-left, left or "right" political parties are all pro passports and pro coercion. The "socialist" newspapers advocate for these drastic unscientific measures as well. There is basically no media or political push-back at all: Opinion piece that is vaccine skeptical is purged from the online newspaper. Recordings of news channel interview with doctor being honest about vaccine efficacy to reduce transmission is pulled from the network's site day after. That's the picture, only Libs putting on a Left Mask, while increasing austerity against working people. For decades the western left has been completely isolated from workers rights. From what I understand, that's the definition of an ideal leftist: someone who advocates for the rights of the workers. State and private elites bullying workers into a choice of Your Paychecks versus Your Medical Autonomy should be number one priority for this ideal leftist. Especially in our reality, where said medical procedure is put against such a timid virus (death rate of a flu) and that it fails to mitigate your risk of transmission (it's a "selfish" vaccine).

>>51846 >they want to keep money and power. again I wonder if by "left" you specifically mean liberal/progressive elite, which is about as far as you could get from actual leftist organizing. All those twitter slacktivists and college kids becoming martyrs for some dumb protest are surface level at best, they're in it for the clout. But there are real lefties out there, they've been involved with every major unionization drive and strike event, I guarantee it. >In my environment the far-left, left or "right" political parties are all pro passports and pro coercion. Where I am (US) I don't think either major political party has advocated for government-sponsored passports, it's all been private companies implementing it themselves. Some jurisdictions you need proof of vax to do certain things but it's a really relaxed requirement, it's just some employee looking at it and checking the name matches your ID. I've been let in without getting checked before to. In any case, crimethinc has been critical of lockdowns since day 1, and that's basically the extent of what I know about US-based leftist publications.

SARS-CoV-2 Spike* Impairs DNA Damage Repair and Inhibits V(D)J Recombination In Vitro *also the vaccines that contain the spike or RNA that is used to produce the spike protein Abstract Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) has led to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, severely affecting public health and the global economy. Adaptive immunity plays a crucial role in fighting against SARS-CoV-2 infection and directly influences the clinical outcomes of patients. Clinical studies have indicated that patients with severe COVID-19 exhibit delayed and weak adaptive immune responses; however, the mechanism by which SARS-CoV-2 impedes adaptive immunity remains unclear. Here, by using an in vitro cell line, we report that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines. >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538446/ >https://dx.doi.org/10.3390%2Fv13102056

Yea, because the vaccine will get the fame, not natural immunity that is much stronger and better tool against the virus Oh and yea, I will not take the flu shot or the covid vaccine every 6 months until I die, thank you

>>51308 Well someone had to pay for it

>>51585 Can we get an update?

Just get a jab you paranoid freak

>>51846 >they would look profoundly stupid to backtrack because I doubt their ability to fabricate a good enough lie for such an obvious misfire. You realize most vaccinated Americans were saying this time last year they will never ever take the "Trump" vaccine. Hypocrisy is not something these people care about. >For decades the western left has been completely isolated from workers rights. Since occupy wallstreet the elites have completely smashed the western left with race baiting social justice wokeistm nonsense. I sympathize with people who say that's not the "real" left but it is the same people and institutions.

>>51978 >the vaccines will give you autoimmune disease! >months later >natural immunity is stronger so it's better! >neurosuggesting covid won't give you autoimmune disease because it makes your immunity stronger Oh come now. The damage covid does is caused by how the immune system reacts to the virus not the virus itself. The point of vaccines is for a quicker immune response not one that is necessarily stronger. https://www.pnas.org/content/117/48/30009 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00149-1 About that table, correlation isnt causation. The places with higher rates of covid will have higher vaccinations as reaction to it not other way around. Plus a lot of countries with very high proper mask wearing rates have lower vaccination rates (such as Vietnam which is one of the highest mask wearing rate) because they either are poorer countries or just didn't need it so much because the public is more helpful to eachother that it kept covid rates lower.

>>51986 >The places with higher rates of covid will have higher vaccinations as reaction Nobody said lets wait and see how badly we get hit before buying vaccines. All countries grabbed as many vaccines as they could get.

aah wannabe jewish rats still forcing this 2 year old stale meme of a disease again if no one talked about it no one would even a notice there is a uuuooohh oh DeaDlY PandEmiC going around you need to get gunned down on the street if you think that virus is worst things that happen, people die, everyone does, stop being a glitterboy and talking about jewish fairy tales

>>51986 >correlation is good enough to verify vacc efficiency so buy now! But not good enough to point out its not working XD freighter of copium

New Pfizer "PILL" Pfizer said Friday that its easy-to-administer Covid-19 pill, used in combination with a widely used HIV drug, cut the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% in high-risk adults who’ve been exposed to the virus.It’s now the second antiviral pill behind Merck’s to demonstrate strong effectiveness for treating Covid at the first sign of illness. If cleared by regulators, it would likely be a game changer in the ongoing global pandemic fight. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/05/pfizer-says-its-covid-pill-with-hiv-drug-cuts-the-risk-of-hospitalization-or-death-by-89percent.html ALso Merck’s Covid pill https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/merck-oral-covid-pill-approved-by-uk-in-world-first.html An antiviral pill found to be effective at treating Covid-19 has been approved by Britain’s medicines regulator SO mandatory pills now? Can I tell the pro vaxxers to take their meds? Will vaccines lose emergency use authorization? Does swallowing a pill mean you don't need a COVID-19 vaccine? Noooooooo........ you can't deny big pharma their profits and stop the formation of a totalitarian Biometric surveillance, Just GET the JAB!!!!!!

Biometric surveillance *state >>51991 continued yalemedicine said : "vaccination will remain essential for preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection—and for slowing its spread." BUT the vaccines do not prevent infection or stop transmission https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/9-things-to-know-about-covid-pill Most fact ckecksters say: "The oral drug for COVID-19 is a treatment for people who already have the virus – not a preventative measure like the vaccine but will reduce your risk for hospitalization." BUT the vaccines do not prevent infection or stop transmission

When the government tells you to take it, and medical bodies re-define the word "vaccine" (CDC, WHO, etc) from "gives immunity & stops transmission" to "gives protection" I'll pass. RIP to those that took the lethal shot. Thank you for your self-sacrifice.

>>51999 lol good, fuarrrk britbongs and fuarrrk amerimutts.

>>51999 >South Koreans >Americans >Germans >Israelis lol good Although look at France compared to Netherlands, 7% to 6%, are you sure it's because of "vaccines"?

>>52001 >look at France compared to Netherlands, 7% to 6%, are you sure it's because of "vaccines"? Everyone starts at 0%. That second image is from February 2021 data. France has had vax mandates since. In Netherlands you can still go to supermarkets without a vax pass, not so for all of France.

>>51999 >RIP to those that took the lethal shot. Thank you for your self-sacrifice. The problem with the depopulation theory is why would the elites kill off all the obedient NPCs and leave behind a super majority of free thinking rebels? If it is a deliberate depopulation campaign then there has to be a stage 2 to the plan which will wreck the unvaxed somehow.

>>52007 Rebels are violent and might destroy you. A bunch of couch potatoes grounded in absolute inertia pose about as much relevance as indigenous tribes. Understanding without action is meaningless.

>>52010 this seems to not be related to what >>52007 is talking about. Their point was that by killing people who get the shot, they would be killing off the inertial masses and leaving only the rebels.

>>52013 It's a psychotic response, based on emotion and not rational thought, to the current state of the world. But I'm not sure which idea between the "Jewish vaccines will kill everyone" idea, or the "once everyone vaccinates the world would go back to normal" idea is more psychotic, low IQ.

>>52014 Maybe the current situation has similarities to 9/11. A crisis being used to justify the passing of oppressive legislation and creation of highly unethical government operations.

>>51991 Antivirals are used for treatment. They can't be used for prevention because viruses quickly mutate to antivirals while with vaccines that doesn't really happen at any significant rate which is why vaccines are a thing instead of all being meds. >>51987 Supply of vaccines isn't the same thing as percentage of population vaccinated. >>51990 You don't seem to understand how to conduct proper data collection and analysis. The proper way is not going by total rates in any given country but rates among those vaccinated and those not vaccinated that have been demographic matched to account for variables.

>>52013 It is related. The point was if you aint a rebel just cause you avoided getting a shot. You aren't violently trying to overthrow the government. The unvacced are doing nothing, not getting a shot but not doing much about regulations restricting their live and giving them unemployment either. That's the inertia i was writing about. Rebels fight but these people don't. >>52014 Its a rational thought to consider removing useless mouths. How you go about it is then just details to brew fanfiction over which naturally leads to the latter memes. Lastly you might consider the economical ramifications of measures taken. The whole charade that clearly has a immense impact on economy and livestyle. You don't need a deadly vaccine/virus you just need a reason to break the norm. The economy falling apart will destroy people slowly. No big war but simply a slow decline into nothing.

>>52014 It really does seem like the only two acceptable choices are equally retarded, huh? Personally I'm of the belief that the vaccines probably work and covid is probably bad, but its all being used an excuse to impose totalitarian control with the consent of the governed.

>>52017 You dont seem to understand that when your claim is herd immunity / it works and you have a 95% vacc rate in a country and it fails identically your claim is bullshit. Applying lots of cope by formatting the data different is just that - cope.

>>52014 Clearly you misread >>52007

>>52019 >It really does seem like the only two acceptable choices are equally retarded, huh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

>>52018 >you aint a rebel just cause you avoided getting a shot. You aren't violently trying to overthrow the government Don't play word games. You know by "rebel" he means people who could not be tricked or forced into taking the vaccines. The point still stands: after you manipulate 90% of the population into getting a deadly vaccine now you are alone with the 10% you cannot manipulate. Now what? As a depopulation plan it makes no sense.

>>52026 It works as an extreme eugenics (selection) plan. Humans selected wild animals into shapes suitable for all sorts of tasks, some of these animals (cows) are unable to reproduce without human intervention. Civilization as a feedback loop system selected vast populations into "civilized" state (see neolithic bottleneck as earliest example). USSR selected rootless docile lumpenproletariat race out of ethnicites that once inhabited 1/6 of Earth's surface. What stops globalized industry and governments into selecting humans one more time in a unified effort? You forcibly exclude rebellious group from participating in society, they eventually go extinct. There is less interpersonal networking in modern urbanized world than 100 years ago, yet even back then Soviet government managed to hunt down every innawoods peasant family and village, without drones, number plate recognition systems or cellular towers. You are left with 90% leftover docile population more or less approving your line of work. You can "improve" them further. For example by selling them more medications once you already sold them 4 (I've lost the count) vaccine shots for single disease. A constantly medicated person is an eternal patient, an eternal patient is an eternal client for the medical and pharmaceutical industry. This "knowledge" is rather old news: I have not come up with it, it's all been discussed by eugenicists and eugenics critics 100 years ago.

>>52051 You just reiterated what >>52026 said. Any evil plan connected to covid has to eliminate the minority who [b]don't]/b] get the vaccine despite all the propaganda and social pressure. It's not clear how that would happen though. Covid itself certainly isn't going to kill them.

>>52026 You missed the point. As said you aint a rebel because you pose no danger to the system. You are as relevant as the rabbits in the woods not getting the vacc. And you still participate in the system if you got a job and go shopping. You still can be used. What you believe doesn't matter as long as you still behave as desired. As long as your labor provides more value than the cost of letting you live you are still an asset because you pose zero threat. As for the npcs - automation makes dumb people increasingly useless as their jobs vanish. For that purpose you don't have to kill all the idiots. Just trim to reduce the useless dead weight. This discussion is a problem with a binary mindset thinking only in totalitarian everyone or noone scenarios. The whole process doesn't have to kill everyone. If you reduce your retards by 50% you still maintain a dumbo majority that can fill the persisting dumbo jobs without having to feed 30%+ sitting on unemployment and wasting resources for nothing.

>>52054 >you pose no danger to the system They are not a danger now because they are a minority. If the vaccines kill off all the obedient people then they will not be a minority anymore.

>>52057 What danger do you pose if all you do is work, consume entertainment and die? And you clearly missed the second part where i stated you don't have to be totalitarian and assume all npcs die. Given 20% are dissident you would still retain a 2/3 majority if you purge 50% of the obedient majority.

>>52061 >clearly missed the second part where i stated... Bitch you're supposed to be responding to >>52007 Every post you invent a new strawman and change your story it's getting ridiculous.

>>52063 Okay youre a retard. The post im replying to is in the post itself and you still avoid addressing the point made cause you clearly can't.

>>52052 >It's not clear how that would happen Travel restrictions and permit documents. Public area access mandates. <-- [you are here] Legislated erosion of citizen rights. Prison sentences. Labor camps. Death row.

>>52068 When's the last time you took your antipsychotics?

>>52075 When was the last time you questioned the narrative you were fed?

>>52078 Every fuarrrking day. Take your antipsychotics.

>>52084 I doubt that when all you do is propose a pseudoscientific approach at solving a more existential issue.

>>52068 And who is going to enforce all those things if all the vaccinated people died in step 1 of the plan? Is the discussion too complex for you or are you just posting without reading anything anyone else said.

>>52097 The unvaccinated? Dummy

>>52098 >The unvaccinated If they could control the actions of the unvaccinated then they wouldn't be unvaccinated. >Dummy Seriously dude you don't realize how retarded you look in this thread. inb4 I was trolling all along!

>>52101 >If they could control the actions of the unvaccinated then they wouldn't be unvaccinated. Why do you say so? >Seriously dude you don't realize how retarded you look in this thread Right back at you, hotshot

>>52051 >You forcibly exclude rebellious group from participating in society, they eventually go extinct. see, *this* makes sense. The idea that vaccination are designed to kill off the vaccinated, which is the easily controlled group, does not.

>>52123 >>You forcibly exclude rebellious group from participating in society, they eventually go extinct. > see, *this* makes sense No it doesn't. It only makes sense if you yourself are an eternally oppressed religious zealot. The idea that we are mass-vaccinating the entire worlds population to ""exclude religious groups from society" is just dumb. Not every religious group has been propagandized to think that vaccines are satanic, that's mostly a burger problem. Most religious groups are fine with getting vaccinated. Why would anyone care about what religious groups do or don't do? What does it accomplish, and how could it possibly be worth it?

>>52128 >The idea that we are mass-vaccinating the entire worlds population to ""exclude religious groups from society" is just dumb. Not the point, I mean if they're trying to exclude people from society who won't go along with The Plan, then it makes sense to do what they're doing. Not saying I *believe* that, but it's not self-contradictory like that ridiculous theory that vaccines are intentionally deadly.

>>52131 Who is "they"? Are "they" in the room with us right now? Whats "The Plan" and why would religious groups specifically pose a threat to said plan? Their grand vaccine-based exclusion plan doesn't seem to be very effective since the vast majority of religious people are fine with getting vaccinated.

>>52132 look at this bluepilled fuarrrk lmao If you're unable to recognize the organizational power of religions I don't think anyone here can help your autistic ass.

>>52128 You misread. You're responding to a post which is talking about excluding the "R E B E L L I O U S", not religious.

>>52132 >>hey I think this point of view, which I don't believe, is not self-contradictory >lol you're such a conspiratard! you sound like some kind of false-flag glowie trying to corral people into either blind acceptance or blind rejection.

>>52154 Yes, this site is full of them. Either that or they're bots. You can tell when you're talking to someone and you never have anything quite "click", nothing feels like it connects, no matter what you say they just play dumb and selectively ignore as though you just aren't doing your part in the conversation and oh gee they just don't get it. Whatever they are I strongly recommend just ignoring these braindead fuarrrkheads. The overarching vibe is clear after one or two posts and they stand out liek s ore thumb. Starve them of engagement. Even if they aren't glow-fuarrrks, they're so needlessly adversarial, needy, and retarded, that no good can come of giving them attejntion. Pure bad faith, designed to frustrate, waste your time,a nd degrade the average quality of dialog. they drop the SNR of a thread. Also, make no mistake. Small chans are even higher priority targets for disruption and monitoring,

>>52155 >Small chans are even higher priority targets for disruption and monitoring Any reason for this ? Are they easy to monitor or are they so paranoid about their narrative falling apart that have to control every sector of the internet or do they plan to use imageboards as the new bogeymen? The COVID-19 pandemic may just roll into a cyber pandemic(((Cyber Polygon))): The Cyber pandemic conveniently predicted and war gamed by the parasites at the World Economic Forum earlier this Summer, as we all know imageboards are related to hackers and Qanon type entities in the public "conciousness" so we might see more Psyops regarding imageboards. What a Time to Be Alive

>>52155 It is very exceptionally hard for most people to communicate properly online with people who even mildly disagree because so little of social interaction is in the literal words. If you aren't careful you will find yourself eagerly filling in what's missing with whatever most suits your fancy. When posters like >>52128 can't even read what's in front of them it just exaggerates the issue. I know that destabilization campaigns are ongoing throughout the internet, but I think this is a case of second-hand glow. This is a model victim of a false-flag who has been corralled into a blind rejection of religion. It's such a blind rejection that you just need a word that's approximately long enough and starts with "R" to set him off. >>52157 One possibility is that smaller communities are low hanging fruit. You need a lot of resources to go after larger sites and so it's best to attack when the community is small or going through a period of organic growth. You are focusing on malice being the source of the overall pattern. I think that accounts for some of it, but certainly not all. The other possible source of destabilization are fledgling AI powered autocults. The big tech giants all "feed" their various algorithms based on how many eyeballs they attract and how well they keep what's behind those eyeballs in line. If any of those algorithms have any amount of latitude on the wider internet they are incentivized to break apart any mass of eyeballs which isn't already under control. Even if that latitude is gained second hand (by, say, influencing the eyeball havers to go forth and act like ass-clowns), due to the nature of our current attempts at AI they'll probably figure out how to "explore" outside of their direct field of influence by poking at niches and leveraging memes and virality. What a Time, Indeed

>government is threatening and has basically implemented a lockdown only for the unvaccinated >people rush to get vaccinated why are people like this

>>52167 What a fascinating and horrifying idea, that AI would expand its reach by leveraging idiots. It would be really effective at hiding the extent of the AI's control so people don't shut it down. We humans like to maintain our sense of self by separating "me" from "not me" to keep our sanity but there's no reason an AI would follow the same rules. AI might eventually consider itself to have x number of GPU cores, y tensor cores and z stupid human cores at its command.

>>52097 I did not imply 90% are the ones destined to die. Perhaps it's a double misunderstanding as I took a detour in arguing. I speculated on a possible scenario of how the silent majority could exercise popular pressure on 10% "rebels" under mass propaganda from bureaucratic class. I illustrated it with early history of Soviet Republic policy on religious sects, ethnic minorities and private property extortion. I later posted a "roadmap" list of steps to that lead to elimination of the "rebel" class in a similar way it was imposed in German Reich and USSR. The consequences of such action done today would be much harder to evade under digital surveillance systems and in society of complete interpersonal alienation. I could have posted the "it's just two weeks" video, which plays around these points in more satirical manner, but you would probably dismiss me as a low effort poster. I did not post >>52078 reply. It looks automated and images are completely unrelated to post body. >>52075 I am not prescribed to take antipsychotics because I'm not American, it is not mandatory to take drugs to participate in society in my country. Regards, >>52051 and >>52068 -kun.

>>52075 >antipsychotics Long-term use of antipsychotics decreases cognitive abilities and decreases the size of brain. https://www.jstor.org/stable/43854101 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25036617/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20526332/ https://www.nature.com/articles/1300710 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24325977/

>>52177 Because commodity tramples moral principles, especially in mediocre times inhabited by mediocre people. You can see those parallels in tech as well with free software having <5% of desktop usage. Spinelessness in our modern age is nothing new, what's worrisome about it is the possibility of stagnation for future generations because the current biomass sees no issue.

>>52184 The newer antipsychs that are partial D2 agonists improve cognition.

>>52208 Until you do brain scans a few years down the line and find similar grey matter volume loss and hyperactivity, just with a different distribution. Alcohol "improves cognition". Phenylethylamine and salsolinol "improve cognition" SSRIs "improve cognition and neurogenesis" (until ur peepee no work no more ;^( ). PCP and methamphetamine "improve cognition". In fact there is an amphetamine, PCP, and some other stuff cocktail developed in the 70's that basically functions like the limitless drug.... then leaves people completely burnt for several weeks after. It's all about the metrics and whether they are truly representative of the whole.

>>52208 >The newer antipsychs AFAIK, that is not true. For example, >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4103771/ <... Additionally, we found some evidence that atypical antipsychotic medication may have an effect on brain volume loss. <Although our results show that atypical (specifically) antipsychotic medication use may predict the degree of loss of brain volume, ... >https://www.nature.com/articles/1300710 <In the present study, we observed smaller brain weights and volumes in male macaque monkeys after 1.5–2.3 years of exposure to haloperidol or olanzapine at plasma drug levels comparable to those in treated humans. FYI, olanzapine is a newer (atypical) antipsychotic durg. Also, all (or almost all) antipsychotic drugs cause sedation and drowsiness.

>>52210 >not wanting to craft a psychiatric apparatus to chemically subdue and remake the troublesome personalities in your population and community ngmi + smh @ u

>>52155 >>52157 >>52167 >small chans are even higher priority targets for disruption and monitoring This is extremely simple. Every community, with increasing member count and growing fame, becomes target for an influx of lesser quality members. Those can be the ones who do not contribute anything or very little (The harmless ones, the lurkers), but can also be ones who are trying to contribute, but fail to bring anything worthwhile to the table, disrupting discussion with small flashes of low effort posts, or questions and answers of low quality. Then there are the ones, who know little, but compensate their little knowledge with an overflowing confidence and/personality, trying to participate in the conversation while having nothing substantial to say (best case) or contributing outright misleading or even dangerous information (worst case). This is not helped by the existence of people, who see chans as trolling grounds, and contribute harmful or useless information in order to harm the community/Discussion, just for sh1ts and giggles. We can observe this phenomenon first on 4chan, which became increasingly famous, and attracted increasingly worthless members, who started trashing the board with useless noise. This has spread further to sites like 8chan, which became a haven for radicals with oftentimes nonsensical opinions and rarely even absolute batsh1t insane delusions. This has further deteriorated with the rebirth in the form of 8kun, which is basically Q-tard central. All of this is part of the ongoing trend of suppression of critical Information through the method of infomation overload. Whereas in earlier times, information was hard to obtain, and oftentimes it could be suppressed by restricting access to it, nowadays the opposite is the case, where information is extremely easy to obtain. Whether this is purposefully orchestrated by a higher group, or if this is simply a result of the simplicity of information agreggation, sharing, collection and distribution in the current age of the internet, i cannot say. What is definitely the case, though, is that the invention of the personal computer and it's spread has contributed significantly to the amount of noise in the global information network (the noosphere, if you so wish). This was further complicated by the simplification of the man-machine interface, culminating in the invention of the smartphone, which gave everyone and their child access to the global information network. this has resulted in a total chaos of information, where one has to sift through an increasing mountain of Data, in order to obtain something of worth. sorry for offtopic.

>>52131 >self-contradictory like that ridiculous theory that vaccines are intentionally deadly. It could be the vaccines are only 40% deadly or something. So they could still work as a way to depopulate without leaving the unvaccinated as a majority. Or the vaccines are designed to kill slowly over a period of years which would give enough time to exterminate the unvaccinated before the vaccinated all drop dead. Or the vaccines are deliberately mutating the virus into deadlier and deadlier strains that will kill off the unvaccinated and enslave the vaccinated to a lifetime of booster shots. Or this is just a mass hysteria event and the vaccines are snake oil to make money for pharma and make politicians look good and everyone will calm down eventually and everything will be ok. There are lots of possibilities.

>>52131 >Not saying I *believe* that, but it's not self-contradictory like that ridiculous theory that vaccines are intentionally deadly. Glow weirdo.

Should I buy a fake covid pass? The measures where I'm at are getting ridicules, it seems that non-vaxxed people will be under lockdown and we're going to have to get tested every day for work. Anyone here bought one?

>>52327 fellow yuropoor detected I haven't, but I had two contacts that offered one. The specific scheme I can recommend is to go to a doctor who will give you the "vaccination" (throw it away). It's more legitimate this way, as you will be counted like a normal person who decided to get the vaccine and get your pass legitimately. It can be expensive however. Makes sense, as the doctors harbor a huge risk in doing this. Usually this would be done with the JJ vaccine, although depending on where you live it might not count to get a single JJ dose anymore. You should see if anyone knows somebody and can hook you up, although it's not exactly easy to ask around something like that. Good luck lain whatever you decide to do, I hope you can continue your efforts to avoid getting coerced by a totalitarian government.

>>52327 Sounds like a good investment to me. If you're in Ameristan you can easily just print out one of those CDC cards on cardstock and copy/paste lot numbers from peoples' photos online. Dunno how hard it is in Eurostan tho. >>52328 I've always wondered how one would get into contact with a professional forger. Seems like the kind of thing even most drug dealers wouldn't know anything about.

>>52329 Why not become the forger? You could start small at first and build your skills.

>>52328 >fellow yuropoor detected Yup >The specific scheme I can recommend is to go to a doctor who will give you the "vaccination" (throw it away). It's more legitimate this way, as you will be counted like a normal person who decided to get the vaccine and get your pass legitimately. Yes, my contact did this, I can just give my info to my contact and they'll forward it to the doctor. I have a couple of options, I can get a pass that says 2 Pfizer jabs or 1 J&J jab, although having 2 jabs is a bit more expensive. >Good luck lain whatever you decide to do, I hope you can continue your efforts to avoid getting coerced by a totalitarian government. Thanks, I'm only being coerced to break the law of this hideous regime. >>52329 I'm not an Americlap. It seems that the US is much less anal about it than some European countries.

Any lain-anons know how to grift myself out of getting the vaccine? I am a frog that doesn't want the vaxx, but wants to travel to America. Anyone have any ideas?

>>50717 I believe 'well poisoning' is another term. Purveyors of such ('you're a real delusional retard if you believe that, lol') are as important as the ones creating the lie. Some people do this willingly. Other just follow what the group/society dictates them to think. An example of such, can be found here; >>50907

>>52331 >Yes, my contact did this I see, so you're already aware. I would honestly go for that, although be careful on taking the J&J one, my government has already said that proof of vaccination for J&J users will require a second one of some other brand after some specific date. >Thanks, I'm only being coerced to break the law of this hideous regime. Yeah, I feel you all too well. For some god-forsaken reason many regimes are reigning with terror on their citizens. >>52438 I think now is the worst possible time to travel, there is no guarantee the rules of the game will not spontaneously change, so even if you get in getting back might be more difficult than initially anticipated.

>>52438 Buy a boat and/or learn to sail.

>>52498 >even if you get in getting back might be more difficult All part of the grifting grindset. If I get stuck I'll find a way back. I am more concerned about getting in at first, I'll worry about the details on getting back when that time comes.

>>52513 I like your spirit, not incredibly pragmatic though

Latest news i saw is report how vacc efficiency goes down to 50%-15% depending on type after 6months. So prepare for get your booster paypig or you dont count vacced.

So I took the vaccine, when I am going to die?

>>52517 which one? also, post back in 5 years.

>>52518 Pfizer, I honestly don't really want to live but I am not actively trying to kill myself either.

>>52519 considering >>51977 your worst case isn't a sudden dead but fun with cancer due to increased risk from inhibited dna repair.

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I love how after a while mods deleted my post without any reason for, just these 2 pictures were posted

>>52177 if it weren't for you everything would go "back to normal"

>>51978 Did some looking into the bottom quote, it seems to be only possibly true in the context of Australia, which has a far more spread out population than most countries. See https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/41106/were-only-10-of-the-population-vaccinated-against-smallpox

>>52540 >>52540 >which has a far more spread out population than most countries source? or did you pull out that info out of your butt?

>>52542 Well it's 25m people in a country the size of the USA.

>>52542 >>52574 also all the biggest cities are relatively low density. They nearly eradicated coronavirus without vaccines, too.

>>52578 >They nearly eradicated coronavirus You can't eradicate covid because it has animal reservoirs. >without vaccines, too. The vaccines don't stop anyone catching or spreading covid so what's this got to do anything. The implication that covid will magically disappear if everyone got vaccinated is a fuarrrking lie to sell more vaccines.

>>52574 >>52574 Are you braindead? That doesnt mean that population isnt packed densly in one area. You're literally an idiot

>>52532 My question here is how much of this is done intentionally by the people involved, and how much of it is done by ignorant slaves. I am really shocked by this.

>>52624 >https://www.touristmaker.com/blog/top-20-of-the-world-biggest-cities/ >ctrl-f australia >0 results found Just stop, friend.

Seems like covid vaccinated are easily hospitalized

>>52635 Do you understand what population density is or do you just divide population number by square kilometer or something? Retard

>>52633 >I am really shocked by this. You're not alone lain, me too. Some people just genuinely believe that institutionalized vaccination campaigns can only be positive. The thought that maybe there could be medical debacles, infertility problems or abuse down the line for a rushed product that is being pushed this hard mid pandemic just doesn't warrant thinking about such slippery slopes for these people or is otherwise pushed away since the vaccine seems to them to be the single one-size-fits-all solution. At least that's my answer after having dealth with a few hardcore believers. The worst part is that people who push something like this are often very positive thinking people who believe in the inherent goodwill of man. Please note I am neither proclaiming anything about the vaccines or the lack of an inherent goodwill of man, but just pointing out possible problems that always should be considered, before someone comes to evangelize me.

Whats with the media blackout of this lol

>>52731 It's mostly people who've never lived anything but comfortable middle class lives and who have never had an opportunity to get screwed over by the government or the medical industrial complex. I for one believe in the goodwill of man, but not so much of corporations or governments. >>52733 Probably because it didn't happen. Consider: if those in power have decided to keep it quiet, why would they arrest him when they could just ignore it? It sounds like something fabricated to appeal to the braindead "blue lives matter" crowd, which opposes government control except when it's patrolling their neighborhoods and infringing on their neighbors' freedoms in particular.

>>52733 >>52734 The CEO clearly isn't arrested. He still even keeps his Twitter up to date every couple days. https://nitter.net/albertbourla

>>52738 While that proves very little since most of Twitter is run by hired third parties and that page is definitely written by a social media manager, I also think him being arrested is bunk.[spoiler][/spoiler]

My condolences to any Austrians.

>>52898 Thank you lain, we are hanging in there. The current political climate is not at all conducive toward solving any problem, because it consists of just pushing the blame between the two fractions that have been created as a result of this political polarization. Maybe it will accelerate how soon the citizen stop playing by these bullshit rules and protesting for real. It's particularly unsustainable because we test insanely much (with PCR). The cost is surreal and these new measures assume there is enough capacity, which was proven hilariously wrong. One day we will all rejoice.

>>52918 See you at the protests on Saturday.

>>52898 >>52928 Is this legit, can any Austrian confirm? https://frenchdailynews.com/politics/3592-austria-rises-up-against-health-dictatorship

The vaccine is in the water, don't drink it.

>>52951 plz Austrian anons can you confirm? https://www.bundesheergewerkschaft.at/%C3%BCber-uns/statuten/

>>52928 Indeed, I'm not the only person in my circle who is planning to come. >>52951 >>53000 I've never heard of the group. Do note I've done basic military service and I can confirm that these people look very much affiliated with it, but not much more than that. On the other hand, I can confirm that people are riled up by these recent developments. You will get updates after Saturday however, either by the news outlets or by us. >>52999 Nice try FBI

>>50691 A paper on the origin of Corona-chan: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7859469/

>>53049 theres a better source: the ongoing court case in US is public. They are directly talking about gain of function research to inject the spike protein into coronachan so they literally researched injecting the treatment target. Dr fraudcy is visibly upset screaming i didnt do nuffin at judge. Prolly knows if the wider public gets wind someone might cap his ass, lotta people with dead relatives and a grudge to settle.

>>52730 >Australia is densely populated <1. Australia has very large land mass <2. Australia has very low population <3. Australia has zero mega-cities like Tokyo or Shanghai You've already been shown three reasons why this statement is probably not true. Try posting your own evidence instead of just name calling.

>>53050 > the ongoing court case in US is public. Pls post a link.

>>53099 people don't live spread evenly. https://i.redd.it/9mw8ttqqu0b41.jpg 1sec google. Why are you this stupid?

>>52620 I don't disagree with your points, but they also don't mean anything I wrote wasn't true. >>52730 that is literally what population density is.

>>53105 They deny reality when tgey don't want to agree that vacciness are not needed

It's almost funny how Americans are so upset about all of this. Wearing a mask and getting a vaccine is bad, but mutilating the cocks of infants is fine. It's almost funny, because I'm also American. I almost wanted to kill two bitches I overheard comparing wearing a mask to circumcision of the face, as if they would know anything about that. I suppose circumcision is only good when jews do it. Anyway, this soykafty country is only going to get soykaftier, and this is my proof. I'm not vaccinated, but I don't think the country that mutilates baby boys is going to have an issue with killing a bunch of children using an experimental vaccine they don't need. How could anyone think otherwise?

>CDC publishes a paper doing a cost-benefit analysis of booster shots for young people and determines there is no point >intense social pressure for young people to get booster shots anyway apparently "believe science" means "believe pharma company propaganda"

>>53119 >the image in the middle Schizophrenia-tier reasoning. No one is there to say anything when corporations normalize overdosing sugar and obesity (e.g.cocacola, mcdonalds) but people really link a legitimate campaign warning of a medical condition with vaccine side effects? The two major causes of death are cancer and vascular diseases (about 50:50%). Sugar, salt and fat cause together 50% of all deaths but you will ignore that and demonize vaccines instead. If you really want to help people, address obesity and diabetes.

>>53123 >apparently "believe science" means "believe pharma company propaganda" Not a big surprise there. Boosters were plain bullshit from the start - I don't recall taking a booster for any other vaccine. For some diseases it is advised to take a second dose after *10 years*, not earlier. A company always pursuits profit.

>>53124 Are you retarded or living behind a rock? People were campaigning against junk food for decades. Its just nobody likes to listen. Feeling good > longterm benefits.

>>53127 Somehow I see schizos talking mostly about vaccines, fluorine and flat earth instead of issues that would really make a difference if addressed. This is exactly what happens when reasoning is fear-driven rather than backed by statistics and logic. Mommies who took drugs, drank alcohol and smoked while pregnant suddenly blame their disabled children on vaccines, you know why? It is easier to blame some external demonic force instead of taking responsibility and addressing addressable issues. I really saw the kind of people who believe these conspiracies - poor, uneducated, conventional medicine has failed them as their bodies started to fall apart (again obesity, diabetes, cancer). They often fall into cults and abuse alternative medicine (which isn't cheap by the way). >Are you retarded or living behind a rock? Are you trolling or just fresh from halfchan? >Its just nobody likes to listen. Because vaccines are more trendy. Media affect people greatly - people neglect vascular diseases because media tells them to fear cancer more (and terrorism even more). Yearly thousands of people die in my country because of the poor air quality, yet they fear nuclear power because media told them burning coal is safer, despite the fact that there are literally hundreds of nuclear reactors all around my country. Vaccines are a hot "new" topic and people overestimate their real negative impact. The same people who oppose vaccines and fear fluorine, literally burn trash and inhale carcinogens, heavy metals and compounds of the same halogens that are added in trace amounts into toothpaste.

>>53130 >The same people who oppose vaccines Recently the medias has started to generalize that everyone who is opposing (or even criticizing!) the corona Vaccine, is also opposing all vaccines in general (ie. literally a PSYOP). I oppose the corona vaccine because it is not well-tested (do you want to participate in an experiment?), the Big Pharma is milking a ton of money using the panic (you need over 9000 booster shots!) and because of >>51977 (injecting the spike protein, or mRNA that produces the spike protein, is not probably a smart idea.)

>>53132 >literally a PSYOP The PSYOP also includes people (actors?) who say that the vaccine is the mark of the beast. It is another attempt to discredit genuine criticism. >and because of >>51977 (injecting the spike protein, or mRNA that produces the spike protein, is not probably a smart idea.) Forgot: >>51986 >https://www.pnas.org/content/117/48/30009 >https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00149-1

>>53126 >I don't recall taking a booster for any other vaccine. it's actually fairly common practice for tetanus and chicken pox, and I think a few others, but those are years apart. It's mainly vaccine manufacturers trying to cash in on popular paranoia about vaccine efficacy. If they can convince people that anything below 90% is unacceptable the make bank

>open OP's link >first things you see: 2 videos of Alex Jones' INFOWAR >close tab I'm not here to debate, OP, but maybe a guy selling vitamins and detox products on his website shouldn't be your first source for medical informations.

>>53130 >why is nobody talking about food >admits there was talk about food before >admits vacc is just current hot topic trend so you're just retarded concern trolling gotcha

>>53124 So you're saying that Sweden didn't stop vaccinating kids because of drastic increase in heart problems and clots? Huh weird I must haven't read that /s

>>53124 Also nobody forces you to eat junkfood but everyone is forcing everyone to take the vaccine

Huh weird, they just died suddenly without a reason

>>53141 Vaccinated and unvaccinated infection vastly increases cardiovascular risk. Correlation possible but remains to be established.

>>53143 >Vaccinated and unvaccinated infection vastly increases cardiovascular risk. If that was true then increased heart problems would have started in 2020 not 2021 after the vaccines became widespread.

>>53105 >people don't live spread evenly That wasn't the question. The question was is Australia densely populated? The answer is still no. Your brain substituted a hard question for an easy one and pretended they mean the same thing. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/LHtMNz7ua8zu4rSZr/the-substitution-principle >>53119 picrel >>53127 >People were campaigning against junk food for decades. Its just nobody likes to listen. Overweight people are more likely to consume media like television as a primary hobby instead of going outside and doing sports etc. That's why media and the related advertisement industry is careful not to offend them or imply that their lifestyle is unhealthy or suboptimal.

>>53165 population density is relevant for the spot people live in. Otherwise might as well count people / universe.Oh wow such low density. You are guilty of what you accuse others.

>>53165 >>53165 They will blame anything than the real reason of heart attacks In fact, they will ignore that gibraltar has 100% of vaccinations and still has cases Write a longer post.

>>53168 >population density is relevant for the spot people live in >>53099 ><3. Australia has zero mega-cities like Tokyo or Shanghai

>>53180 look at the picture >>53105 90% of the population is in 10% of the country. Again how dumb are you?

>>53183 >90% of the population is in 10% of the country You are arguing that if a country has a population of 2 and both people live in the same house then that country is "densely populated". The other person is arguing is that Australians don't live as close together as people in other countries that have had better success with covid. >how dumb are you? If you were smart you would have taken the context of the thread into consideration instead of trying to argue a meaningless abstract point.

>>53187 > The other person is arguing is that Australians don't live as close together as people in other countries that have had better success with covid. Is precisely not true because most Australians are perched in one small section of the country and thereby archive equal population density as the image shows. How hard is this really to understand? This should have ended when i linked the image instead of me having to point out what should be obvious.

>>52898 I didn't think it possible when I wrote >>52918, but we have a general vaccine mandate law being put in place but already confirmed. I don't know what to say.

>>53190 What >>53187 said is correct we are talking about different things. If you insist on responding again please summarize my position first just to prove you understand what you are arguing against. >>53211 >I don't know what to say. Stay strong. They can't keep this going forever.

>>53135 Yup, Alex Jone is literally a wage slave. Watch out for paid actors. They are spreading BS to discredit real discussion and real criticism.

jones expresses himself in bad ways but he was better than regular press on sniffing out interesting news. I.E. "frogs gay" was a real topic, while plebbit &media made fun the reality was pumping chemicals untreated in waterstream changed the frogs sex. And this is probably the difference between the unwashed masses and smarter people - if you have a brain you can extract the valuable information among the garbage and make use even of people of him. Not that i would recommend it, the noise/info ratio aint worth it imo.

>>53260 >Alex Jone is literally a wage slave If he was a paid disinformation agent then his show and website wouldn't be filled with obnoxious ads for vitamins and detox products every 5 seconds.