Where do Lainons get their news from?

In theory, I get my Updates on the Weltgeschehen more or less through a sort of hermeneutic Titration of what I hear People talk about in the streets and bars (and interwebs), an assortment of Global-pull news websites from different sectors (i. E. Al Jazeera, BBC, RT, Euronews...) local papers and some more radical and extreme magazines and opinion pieces, just to account for the outliers. But in reality this process is so tremendously exhausting that I've gradually fallen out of the loop throughout the last couple years. Wikipedia seemed suitable for old news s long time, but I'm getting more aware of their own filter bubbles. So how do you guys stay up to date? Do you do so at all? If no then why? If you do, which topics do you think are the most relevant to get a bird's eye view of the state of the world? Any secret tips? (i. E. "I think following coffee trade gives some very interesting oft overlooked insights on the market" or some soykaf like that) Give me recommendations for platforms that are predominantly impartial and matter-of-factly, if any of those even ever existed beyond the realm of the purely theoretical. Don't get me wrong, I've come to terms with the fact that everything these days needs to be read between the lines and filtered for ideology, but there have to be SOME bastions of objectivity out there, right?... ... Right? :(

media is all propaganda. that's how it gets its funding. there is no news source that isn't straight up lies. if you want to see the state of the world, just look around you, in person. pretty clear its the end.

>>50449 Well that's kinda what I've been doing, and all it did was leave me sullen, uninformed and sort of incapable of logically expounding upon where that bitterness comes from, which makes me no better than the screaming ideologues and demagogues of all camps presently having their stranglehold on the flow of public information. A standard that I precisely try to emancipate myself from.

If something alludes to a remarkable or shocking event I normally check WikiNews first If I find no article explaining anything noteworthy I assume the source of the impression exaggerated OP forgot to mention atimes or jptimes Iran has English language news critical of the US I forget the name but would not mind a reminder also absolutely no reason not to seek primary sources

From jews.

I'll normally just hear people mention it either by eavesdropping a conversation about the news or reading on social media and then I do a search about it and read from some big digital newspaper that has credibility what's going on. It's not immune to propaganda nor trying to be, there's no such thing as unbiased news anyway, it's all about perceptions. My tip is don't stress, if something important happens it'll be impossible to not know or hear about it unless you're in extreme isolation.

Local newspaper with home delivery, not /cyb/ at all bu I do like it.

>Do you do so at all? If no then why? Not really. I guess I just don't place much value on being informed any more. When I have the energy to learn things about the world I focus on esoteric studies. I want to grok, not just be informed. >Give me recommendations for platforms that are predominantly impartial and matter-of-factly, if any of those even ever existed beyond the realm of the purely theoretical. probably financial news. Traders will pay good money for high quality information with no bias, it's a different incentive system from normal network news.

>>50448 Why do you need news, to stay up-to date with the rat race? I honestly am tired of these bi-neuron retards smearing this fecal mass all over the noosphere wherever I go. I don't care, leave me alone.

I get most of my news from the politically incorrect board on 4ch, I don't even visit it for that reason but I read a couple of headlines here and there. I don't quite "keep up with the times" unless there's some good reason to do it, being concerned about things you have no control over is fake and gay.

>>50463 >probably financial news. Traders will pay good money for high quality information with no bias, it's a different incentive system from normal network news. This. Market forces are presently the biggest power monopoly, so logically, accurate information is of high importance to them. Although >>50467 has a point. >being concerned about things you have no control over is fake and gay. Insider information on the coffee trade is not going to get you out of your mother's basement unless you actually aim to become a data broker.

The only US-based main-stream source I bother to watch is PBS. They’re the only American news organization that’s legally required to be unbiased since they receive government funding. Even then, always be critical of everything.

>>50470 Same for NPR. They can’t be biased to a certain party since the government funds them. But that doesn’t mean you should let your guard down.

Look at their enemies side for information on your target. Most reliable way.

>>50467 >I get most of my news from the politically incorrect board on 4ch same. proper news platforms shove just as much ideology in my face as any anon thread so why wouldn't I do this.

>>50470 >legally required to be unbiased since they receive government funding

>>50470 >required to be unbiased since they receive government funding this has to be bait, i refuse to believe that you didnt realize how stupid this soykaf sounded as you typed it

I don't. It's toxic/boring and honestly I just don't care.

>>50473 My man. You might even get a couple of chuckles along the way.

I have a newspaper subsription. Best decision I ever made, its way better quality than anything I find on the internet and I like readimg it before I sleep. Can recommend.

>>50475 >>50476 No soykaf, I’m talking about left/right bias.

>>50487 OP here. What about Pro-Status Quo/Anti-Status Quo Bias? Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA! Anyway, thanks for the responses so far. I'm mildly surprised :) I also think that newspapers are not that much of a bad idea. The writers (USUALLY) underwent some formal journalistic training, and since the cadence of Newspaper releases is a couple steps down from the ADHD pace of the digital landscape pooptsunami, plus their weirdly stable userbase, the propagandistic motives seem generally a bit more toned down to me. Still glaringly obvious but in a.... Palatable way. This prompts me to ask Murrrica-Based Lainons: What do you illustrous people think of the Wall Street Jornal?

>>50489 > What about Pro-Status Quo/Anti-Status Quo Bias? Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA! This one is a little hard to judge because PBS and NPR don’t editorialize often. They read a story, move on, read a story, move on, read a story, move on. You won’t often hear the opinions of the reporter, you’ll just hear fact after fact. So any pro/anti-status quo bias they do introduce will be from failure to mention certain facts, or skipping a story entirely. If I had to pick, I’d say they have a pro-status quo bias. By the way, as far as newspapers are concerned, you might as well stick with the bigger ones like WSJ or USA Today. Most of the local newspapers have dropped almost all their staff and are now filling most of the paper with articles copied from Reuters, AP, or USA Today. New York Times has a strong left bias, I don’t know about the others.

>>50489 >What do you illustrous people think of the Wall Street Jornal? pretty good reporting usually but their editorials are hot garbage.

>>50471 I regularly listen to NPR, they have a lot of good content. They have decent a mix of local, national and world coverage as well. There's definitely a left lean in some of their work but I find their news coverage is about as unbiased as you could hope for nowadays. The local programming they host is absolutely biased though based on the politics of your state, but it's typically limited to those segments.

>>50494 >New York Times has a strong left bias, I don’t know about the others. Haha no. They have a strong DNC bias, not a left one. Just like the DNC and GOP, they're classic liberals (in the strict economic sense of the word, not the weird-ass incorrect AM radio-show sense) to their core. There's nothing remotely "left" about the NY Times. A real left-wing news outlet would be something like Jacobin or CounterPunch - loud and proud opponents of capitalism. The only real differences between so-called "left" US mainstream media and so-called "right" US mainstream media is in how much they tolerate the existence of people who aren't straight christians. They all take defense-industry ad cash, they all toe the line for Wall Street, they all vigorously support every stupid war that the US blunders itself into, they all incoherently scream their heads off about imaginary foreign influences (Russia for the DNC and China for the GOP), and they all heap shame and scorn on the working poor.

>>50526 P much this. News are mostly predigested propaganda with facts used as they please or just downright lying pretty well written and articulated in such a way as to tell you what to think. I dont read any news, usually i hear what interests me from sources or get random links in chat, which i sometimes look at or just come across browsing. Dont know it this counts as news, but i tend to check out ufocasebook.com, theres interesting pictures coming weekly, as technology gets better the quality is also better than those black and white saucer images. Guess its not really news, but its up to date information on things that happen, alien or not. Also usually i hear interesting stuff right here on lainchan, sooner or later the good stuff comes by.

>>50526 Alright you don’t have to be a smartass. You fuarrrking know as well as I do that in America the DNC is considered “Left” and the GOP is considered “Right”. Yeah I know there’s more to it, everyone knows there’s more to it. You can expand on my point without being a fuarrrking prick about it.

>>50535 There's a reason that I and others like me on the actual left need to be pedantic smartasses. Those of us with a laser focus on class issues and labor rights are well and truly sick of being lumped in with the Wall Street puppets running the DNC, or the anti-free-speech idpol bluehair SJW assholes who preen and lecture on twitter in a masturbatory ego trip, or the entertainment industry predators whose only connection to the working class is when they have one of them trapped on a casting couch. We just want to drain the swamp with machine guns and guillotines. It's a lot like how many who describe themselves as "right" or "conservative" are frustrated with being lumped in with the Wall Street puppets running the GOP, or the bible-thumping religious maniacs who preach for holy wars, or the talk-show grifters who sell quack remedies to their working-poor audiences while living lavishly for themselves. A lot of those who describe themselves as "right" are just looking for an independent life with some job security and personal freedoms. We got some common cause on that. The ruling class doesn't want that common cause becoming the norm. They want us divided so we're not fighting them.

>>50541 I’m 100% with you on that. What set me off was you coming in hot with “Haha no”. I don’t appreciate people automatically assuming I’m an idiot.

>>50541 Also I’ve had a very bad suicidal type of day, so I probably took it more personally than I should have.

>>50448 reading the """news""' is demoralizing and counter-informative, if there really is something important going on i'll eventually hear about it from others anyways. seeking it out is only useful in very slim circumstances

300 follower twitter accounts with roman statue profile pictures al jazeera and ny times

I have lite.cnn.io auto refreshing on an external screen

>>50448 Associated Press and leftypol

https://www.occrp.org/en https://ecfr.eu/ The rest just from friends, chats, aggregators and occasionally browsing youtube or checking twitter.

zerohedge and some racist twitter accounts

If you're not a schizo keep scrolling https://dissentwatch.com/ is really good >inb4 seethe Project Veritas is also okay. I don't really watch news, they're all bullshit for one reason or another.

>>50467 I knew I wasn't alone. When something happen, the news will tell you half of the facts and change the context. With uncle Paul, you will talk with somebody who was here, you will have a network of thousands of autists scanning social media to dig intel on the perp, you have old guys resurfacing 20 year old stories that were similar and the optional insider that may or may not be a poser. I knew about the virus in December 19. I bought N95 before the Chineses expats bought them all to send them to China and the press said it was a lie, they don't do that, it's just a flu and we must keep our borders open. The BLM protests are a prime example of corporate manipulation of the news, this level of propaganda was unseen since the WMD in Iraq. Not even the orange man bad 4 years propaganda have reached this level. Look at the vaccine, if the journos were a clique who took their orders from a conspiracy group made of big pharmas and corporate eggheads, they would do exactly what they are doing right now. Want to know what is climate change and how to slow it? Won't get that on the news. Want to know how much inflation we got from printing trillions? Won't get that on the news. Want to know what Putin is doing, his links with Turkey, I ran and China? Not on the news. The news are political and economic propaganda and only people are reliable. The human network is how we got news before and it's the only way we can get news now, but the algorithms of FB, Twitter and others hide wrongthink and even Reddit is plagued by downvotes, shadow banning and mods who don't do it fore free at all. This leave us with the chans.

>>54256 Ive never watched or read news of any sort, i got my info from people and places that i keep tabs on that interest me, if something concerns me i will know it. The interesting people will know and tell, with the right connections you will always get the real info. Newspapers and tv broadcasters have always only told predigested, pretty painted and watered down information, which they arrange in whatever ways fits them, then present their "own" "views" and "conclusions" as facts Though its clear as day, despite the usually overcomplex and lengthy turd they soykaf out their mouths, that they tell you what you are supposed to think and not give you any of the info that is important. They make no effort to hide that they are not there to inform or educate, but to push a narrative packaged in a halfway entertaining fashion. Yet any person who is halfway capable of adding one and one can see trough the lies and actually draw somewhat proper conclusions than the horseshit packaged as outcome which is always totally divorced from reality completely idiotic. What is even worse imo is that most newspapers write total bullcrap and i dont mean to say lies and propaganda, what i mean is brainless moronic empty words that are used to fill pages with no news at all or anything that even remotely resembles any information. If they just typed out random emojis and printed them atleast some novelty entertaining stuff might come out eventually, but with newspapers(physical ones in particular), you can be almost absolutely certain that everything will be written in the dumbest most boring uninforming way possible only to keep those idiots who supposedly pass as writers their jobs and so more paper can fill up the drains. Even childrens drawings are more informing than news papers, atleast children try to bring across something they know or feel novel to them and express it, with newspapers you cant even wipe your ass, forget about getting anything out the alphabet soup that passes for language.

>>54256 I do monitor the incorrectness of politicality, mainly because autists who have more time than I do to monitor news sites and soykafpost about gives me a filter of what research to do for myself. I remember they dug up a lot on COVID in 2019, and people kept trying to figure out my sources when I was telling them about all these new developments. >Want to know what is climate change and how to slow it? Won't get that on the news. In the last 15 years, I remember seeing only 1 news story up until the idea became co-opted to try to sell more electric vehicles and alternative energy stonks. That was with watching the news daily for soykaf to talk about at work. Want to know how much inflation we got from printing trillions? Won't get that on the news. Who cares, there is a supply chain shortage, heres how you can get the latest (consumer item) near you. Because the news today is for advertising. >Want to know what Putin is doing, his links with Turkey, I ran and China? Not on the news. I used to go to some obscure first hand sites and translate the articles where I could. It makes you go down some rabbit holes. I actually started to get upset for a while when I would hear a news report that was blatantly false. One thing that I find interesting is that news is "a random speakers take on the news" and not "known and verifiable facts." The entire field has gone from fact reporting with what is known (or even what claims to be known like propaganda). Facts are opinions now. That's how university papers work too.

>>54262 At every election uncle Paul become less and less usable. We used to have the redditors, then we had CTR and shareblue, now we have so much spam and bait that I refuse to believe it's human generated. It look like a jam. There is a good way to know of someone care about the environment or the sound of his voice: the N word. If someone don't mention nuclear energy, they don't care about the great freeze, global warming or whatever it is called this decade. There is no supply chain shortage. There is a decrease in the value of the money, and that mean the silicate waffle that you bought for 10k should now be sold for 12 ou 14k. Economic actors haven't digested that fact yet and providers can't make the item for a quantity of money that is lower than before. It is true journos now just repost what they see on Twitter. They must be the first to get the story. It's a market and the early bird get the worm. So they don't check anything now, they just repost it. Putin send a lot of troop to the Ukrainian border? Forget the fact that he has done that for 10 years, he want to invade.

>>54258 First, there is old timers who grew up in a different world. Back then they had journalists. Back then if the radio, newspaper or TV said something it was true. It was not even imaginable to see them lie, at worse they could do a mistake and send a mea culpa. They still do the same thing and their brain don't even consider the possibility of a conflict of interest. It's on TV, it's true. Then there is the consumerists who really come to be diverted, to be thrilled and to get their daily dose of outrage. They go for the sensationalist press and call it a day. For the majority of the people, you must remember they don't care. The ones who already have been told that the moral highground is to be a rebel who want exactly the same thing as the corpos, they get a confirmation bias. The others get misdirected and they have no way to tell. See, the only intels they have come from a small number of economic group and social medias whose owners and executive happen to have a common cause. This is where we have a problem: if it is possible to control all the information input someone, or a population get, then it don't matter how intelligent or wise they are, they will conclude what you want them to conclude and they will think it's their own opinions. They will spend hours listening to 20 different employees of the same 5 guys and see themselves as well informed free thinkers.

I dont, I actively block all politics and news from anything I use

>>54277 They will never leave you alone.

if you're a schizo then nationalvanguard.org is the only one I really trust and it definitely puts quality over quantity. https://dissentwatch.com/ is also a great aggregator and I like the simple design of the frontpage. Personally, I think there's nothing wrong with propaganda. Propaganda is merely a form of education, even if it may be used to manipulate people. But it's better to have a biased and filtered opinion than look dumb when a topic comes up and you've only heard scraps of the news. Other than that I also subscribe to some local news outlets and non-politics related things. Unlike half the people in this thread I have a social life and I assert a coherent narrative instead of letting small hats dictate what I'm supposed to be.

>>54309 I, personally, tend to view people who just repeat what they have read on biased medias as much more dumb-looking compared to people who are not afraid to state that they don't know much about the subject. When you ask those people to elaborate, they will jump from topic to topic without explaining correctly why they think what they think. I don't get why people always wants to act like they know everything and already saw everything in life. You look way more dumb, in my opinion, if you act like this instead of telling you're not confortable speaking about a specific subject you don't know about/don't have the capacity to actually understand it. It's ok to be clueless. Nobody knows everything in life, you are better on some topics, others are better on other topics, that's life. Acting like a know-it-all makes you look dumb most of the time, because it's obvious you're just repeating the words of others without understanding it. Remember the COVID thread on Lainchan that got deleted today? OP was spitting 'facts' after 'facts' without even trying to understand, people were pointing out his obvious lies he copy-pasted from random websites. When people pointed it out, he just jumped on another topic and so on. It was funny because I have a friend who don't believe in the vaccine and he says the EXACT same bullshit, because they just read the same articles. Am I the only one who thinks social media algorithms ruined every communities on the Internets? Algorithms pushed us to inside c*rclejerks and now people act like their opinion is the only one valid and will not even listen to other people. They are just repeating stuffs now. I know the web was kinda soykafty back in the days, It took me fuarrrking minutes to display big images, but at least people weren't so confident about their opinion and we were actually debating, not just fighting without listening. Or maybe nostalgia deformed my memory and people were as dumb as today, idk..

https://fair.org/ FAIR is basically meta news. It reports on how news media reports news.

>>54313 https://fair.org/home/this-violent-piece-of-insurrection-was-planned-openly-on-unencrypted-channels/ Fair and unbiased news.

>>54313 >>54320 yeah I perused their website a bit, not great. At this point Glenn Greenwald is the only big-name journalist in the US who I think has any journalistic integrity. There's probably many others but Glenn is the one I know and trust.

>>50448 I generally feel like if something's important somebody will tell me about it. Most of what the news media publishes is pretty unimportant for everyday life. If something does affect me or people I care about, it's bound to affect those around me as well.

>>54321 >At this point Glenn Greenwald is the only big-name journalist in the US who I think has any journalistic integrity haha thanks for the laugh. Glenn don't have any integrity left in his body. Nowdays, he's just a ghost of himself. He did a fantastic job almost 10y ago but nowdays he's just fried in the brain. He got so famous for his reporting on gov leaks, I think he got the same kind of syndrome than Nobel prize winners (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease). He want to see big conspiracies everywhere. If you think he still got integrity.. just look how he handled the Hunter Biden "hack" (not a hack, just a piece of soykaf who abused his position as a tech repair guy). He wanted to find THE big news of the US elections, THE conspiracy. He found nothing and ridiculed himself. (I'm not even left-leaning before you say anything, I don't care if Trump or Biden is president. I'm not a fan of politics. It's just obvious he isn't a journalist anymore. He's just some kind of tech guru serving political places now) But thank you for making me laugh anyway.

>>50448 I understand these might be heavily biased (towards what's trendy and mostly "tech"), but I saved these sites as bookmarks some time ago and rightfully forgot about: https://skimfeed.com/ https://nuuz.io/tech https://infomate.club/ (this one is for Russian audience, but 2/3 headlines are in English) Headline aggregators are pretty neat in compactness, one could probably assemble one of these if you know how to (I don't) and adjust for keywords in a manner of stocks ticker to know what's relevant to your cause.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease article is trash, its redditor science knowledge. For example >He has supported the scientifically discredited view that vaccines cause autism and has claimed that antibiotics are of therapeutic value in the treatment of autism Is typical normal person knowledge, there is a publication that a specific bacterial infection causes autism and obviously giving vacc while the patient is sick makes the disease worse because now the immune system has to deal with a 2nd job. Thats also why antibiotica works - it simply deals with the root cause which is a bacterial infection. The "science community" being brainwashed npcs couldnt deal with the publications advice " just check for infection before giving vacc" because their programing is everyone who links autism to vaccs is wrong. So the paper got no further attention.

>>54336 >https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9881213/Unearthed-video-shows-naked-Hunter-Biden-claiming-Russian-drug-dealers-stole-laptop.html >https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10282493/Psaki-says-Hunter-doesnt-say-sold-Chinese-holding-made.html >https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/peter-lucas-joe-biden-needs-to-answer-questions-on-hunter-biden-e2-80-99s-chinese-connections/ar-AARJXiQ >https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/dec/6/why-congress-must-investigate-hunter-biden/ The laptop story is still running hot. Looks like Glenn was on the money before anyone else. Lefties used to like Glenn when he attacked Bush and his ideology. They don't like that he is now attacking "their team" and in particular how deranged their ideology has become. You can spot lefties in the wild by their confidently incorrect "I'm smarter than you" spiel and their condescending writing style.

>>54312 It's more about spreading a coherent voice for far-right politics. I can surely elaborate to intellectuals on ''why'' I believe what I do. But most people are bugmen who speak in memes. Most other political groups have proper representation, we don't. We're left in a state of chaos that can easily be infiltrated and filtered by our enemies to make mockeries of us. Personally, I don't really care much about the topic of vaccines itself. I'm not gonna take it for the simple reason that I don't trust the system. But it is a good radicalizing force to get people against the system. Once people are against the system they become more open to other important topics such as race.

>>54336 >not a hack, just a piece of soykaf who abused his position as a tech repair guy He did not. The contract said that if Hunter didn't came to collect the computer after a time, it will become the propriety of the shop. It was perfectly legal. They didn't even expected to find anything in there, especially not private communications proving that Mykola Zlochevky demanded to Joe to use his power to ask the Ukrainian president to dismiss Vicktor Shokin, including threatening to not give American money to Ukraine. As it happen, Shokin was investigating Zlochevsky who have been the ecology minister and gave government contracts to his own businesses. As it happen, Hunter is in the board of Burisma Holdings, propriety of Zlochevsky. But that would just have been an abuse of power if Trump wasn't almost impeached for investigating it.

>>54359 The problem is anyone who understands the market well enough to be economically Right is too busy making money to give a soykaf about politics. Leaving democratic politics exclusively the domain of loser parasites who want bigger government so they can ~~steal~~ "redistribute" more wealth i.e. lefties. >muh race Just because you hate gay jewish trannies instead of straight white men doesn't make you the opposite of a lefty collectivist. You're just a lefty collectivist with sharper uniforms.

>>54321 pretty much this. Their profession is based on being a mouthpiece for Billionares. Journos are vermin

>>54628 >The problem is anyone who understands the market well enough to be economically Right is too busy making money to give a soykaf about politics. Pro tip: anyone making serious money cares a whole lot about politics, because it affects their bottom line. >reddit markdown Lurk moar.

>>54320 You didn't even provide an argument on how that's unfair.

>>54632 >Pro tip: anyone making serious money cares a whole lot about politics Nobody said you can't make money with politics or that the biggest winners in our semi-socialist system are those closest to the fiat money taps. What I said was people who understand economics don't need politics to make money, that's why the Right is underrepresented in politics. >Lurk moar. I forgot what chan I was on. You don't need to be a fаɡɡοt about it. >>54633 >You didn't even provide an argument on how that's unfair. It is unfair because there is no attempt to understand the story from multiple sides. It is only the "my boss wants Trump out of office" side. It's not even accurate either: >it goes well beyond the obvious ... that Black Lives Matter activists would have been treated differently In summer of 2020 BLM did riot in the capitol and set several buildings on fire. None of them were fatally shot in a stairway or imprisoned without trial for coming up on a year now. This is just a pseudo-anti-estamblishment media outlet protecting a pseudo-anti-estamblishment protest movement.

>>54634 >What I said was people who understand economics don't need politics to make money Nobody at all needs politics to make money, so your statement is vacuously true. But anyone whose business is subject to taxes or regulations (so, pretty much everyone, even people operating in black markets controlled by the mob) does need to worry about politics, regardless of how well they understand the intricacies of advanced economic principles like "don't spend more than you make". >that's why the Right is underrepresented in politics. If that's how you want to justify your victim mentality, sure. But regardless what you might think, "Right" is not the same as "economically sound". Reality does not have an ideology, if you think otherwise you've been eating out of the trash can.

>>54634 >In summer of 2020 BLM did riot in the capitol and set several buildings on fire. That was Capitol Hill in Washington state not the Capitol building in DC. Not even close.

>>54635 >Nobody at all needs politics to make money Nobody paid Hitler for his paintings. >your statement is vacuously true I'm sure you understand my point. People who struggle to make money on the free market go into politics. Then for some reason they are anti-free market. Do you actually deny this argument or are you just playing pedantic word games? >If that's how you want to justify your victim mentality I'm not a victim I'm just explaining what I see. >"Right" is not the same as "economically sound" Typically "left" is state controlled central planned economy and "right" is fuarrrk the government free markets. If you want to use different labels for things that's fine. It won't change the underlying facts though. >>54636 On Sep 3rd 2020 BLM rioted in Washington DC. Is that not correct?

>People who struggle to make money on the free market go into politics There never was a free market, not in the middle ages and not now. Back then you had guilds monopolizing jobs, now you have regulators rigging the market. The modern big tech companies learned painfully that you need to live with burning money on bribes and play the politics game as they struggled with it for quite a while trying to ignore it.

>>54641 >There never was a free market Ok but do you have an actual argument against my point though? In the market you need to sell something that people voluntarily pay money for. In politics you use violence to force laws and take taxes from people who succeed in the market. So people who fail on the market naturally gravitate towards politics. And people who succeed in the market naturally hate politics and politicians. That's why government is so heavily stacked towards the "Left". >big companies have worked out it is easier to bribe politicians to regulate their competitors out of existence than to compete head on And how is that relevant to the discussion.

>>54644 The point is you got the order wrong. Its not failures that join politics cause they have no good product. Its winning businessmen who understand the market is already corrupted and you cant compete on a fair level without playing the politics game too. So they are forced to join to enable further growth. >In the market you need to sell something that people voluntarily pay money for. This ignores entirely that the market is already rigged. If i tax you on butter higher you will run to margarine. You make that choice voluntarily but in reality its policy driven. And then you have ScienceTM manipulations. In hindsight it sounds insane but in earlier days doctors would advertise smoking. And i specifically took the butter vs margarine example cause that fight was also driven by business funding publications how the other one is bad for you. The entire econ is build on manipulating the plebs who eat soykaf willingly and think they are smart&informed.

>>54645 >Its not failures that join politics cause they have no good product. You're saying that never happens? Nobody emerges from college with a feminist dance therapy major, fails to get anything except a minimum wage barista job and then wants big government welfare state to destroy "capitalism" and raise the minimum wage. That never happens? >its winning businessmen who understand the market is already corrupted and you cant compete on a fair level without playing the politics game too That's a small minority of people at the top. Most people who are pro or neutral towards the free market (small/medium sized business owners, self employed and professionals typically), those people might prefer a freer market but they have no real incentive to get involved with politics because they're too busy making money and getting soykaf done. It's everyone else who have little or nothing to offer the market, their survival depends on free handouts from the welfare state. They are the ones who not only need to get into politics but also have all the spare time. And that skews everything further and further to the left.

>You're saying that never happens? Nobody emerges from college with a feminist dance therapy major, fails to get anything except a minimum wage barista job and then wants big government welfare state to destroy "capitalism" and raise the minimum wage. That never happens? Those are not businessmen are they? They never tried to build anything of value. Those are just kids indoctrinated by the education system and the question you could ask here is who funded all of it. We could replay the distraction apparatus memes here but im sure youve seen them too already. > those people might prefer a freer market but they have no real incentive to get involved with politics because they're too busy making money and getting soykaf done. They simply don't have the ability. What can you do as small biz against a multinational corp? You cant outbribe them nor have you the sway threatening leaving the country / firing thousands of employers. Small biz are already heavier burdened because corporate constructs to evade taxes have fixed costs in 100k+ range which is why bigger corps manage to lower taxes significant as the fixed costs become insignificant in their total budget.

>>54648 >Those are not businessmen are they? Stop trying to change the parameters of the discussion just so you can force your point. Either respond to my core argument or leave it.

>>54649 Your argument was failures go for welfare into politics. It is true that garbage degrees create unemployed who demand naturally welfare to survive. But my point is you start too late as you should ask who allows this to exist and even the employed from those degrees demand the same because that's what they have been taught to do.

>>54650 >my point is you start too late Too late to explain what? I explain why politics always moves left->left->left without stopping. I don't know what you try to explain.

>>54628 I can smell the libertarian revisionism cope from this post. Yes, I am a "collectivist" in the strictest sense of the word. But that doesn't make me "left-wing". I want what is best for my people (my race). You must be under the influence of a spook to want to conserve the absurd levels of wealth inequality in the United States. >I forgot what chan I was on. You don't need to be a fаɡɡοt about it. Lurk moar. >>54640 >People who struggle to make money on the free market go into politics. Then for some reason they are anti-free market. Not necessarily >Typically "left" is state controlled central planned economy and "right" is fuarrrk the government free markets. Left is for equality. Right is for natural order. >If you want to use different labels for things that's fine. It won't change the underlying facts though. We've got a Ben Shapiro over here. What "facts" are we denying? Yes, I do want to redistribute wealth. Yes, people who are economically educated tend to make more money. The rich don't avoid politics, that's just cope. If anything the high class pushes for "socialist" policies to put their competitors out of business. Politics is about power, not economics. Under capitalism the ones with power are the rich, so they will push for policies that keep themselves rich.

You need to realize that left vs. right is just divide and conquer tactic. It's debatable whether political right or political left ever even existed. Nowadays it's clear that the modern right has taken ideas from the left (and other way around). Just ask yourself: why does the same soykaf keep happening even if the opposing party is elected to rule?

>>54675 If by "left" you mean "vaguely progressive liberals" and by "right" you mean "vaguely conservative liberals" then you're correct. However there have been real left-wing and right-wing international mass movements that have significantly altered the course of history. The idea that change is impossible is one of the most epervasive and incorrect ones that is shoved down our throats by news media every day.

>>54670 >Left is for equality. Right is for natural order. This is very theorical. In reality, the left get their vote from people who benefit from government taxing the working people and the right get vote from people who have a hard time to make end meets because of the taxes.

>>50541 You aren’t being pedantic you’re being a disingenuous dipshit. Commie larders like you and all other leftists of various stripe including the US media like NYT are cut from the same cloth. You try to weasel out of what you are when called to task. You are cancer and cancer is unsalvageable

They didn't fully CLAMP my telepathy, so I use telepathy to receive influences from the collective unconscious. Many times people I have incorporated into my subconscious (sympathetic magic, in part) will begin talking about things I am thinking about. Psychoplogy calls this thought broadcasting and ideas of reference, but truth is, they're just jealous.

>local I read super small-scale news aggregators (covering an area of around 25km²) >global OSINT for conflicts, revolts and wars. The rest is pointless and not interesting >internet twitter, some telegram feeds about privacy

Bias be damned, as long as it's an honest effort to present and find context and truth that's the best you can hope for. I got an RSS reader that I switch out sources regularly, other than that I listen to podcasts. I would like to start reading some history too for further context, Tragedy and Hope being at the top of the list. Web: Destructoid, Edward Snowden Substack, Grand Theft World (nonoriginal curated feed), Humans Are Free, Manufacturing Reality blog, Matt Ehret's Insights, Obscure Handhelds, OffGuardian, Paul Joseph Watson (Nitter), Pierre Kory, Richard Grove (Nitter), Rising Tide Foundation, Robert Malone Substack, Timcast, Unlimited Hangout, Wrench in the Gears, Vigilant Citizen, We Are Change, Wololo.

>>58144 Podcasts: Corbett Report, DLC, Generation Zed, Grand Theft World (personal favorite), GTW Liberty Radio, Indie Pod, Macroaggressions, Retro Handhelds Podcast, Sacred Symbols, The Free Zone with Freeman Fly, The Higherside Chats, The Privacy Security & OSINT Show, Tin Foil Hat, Unlimited Hangout, Weekly Games Chat. The GTW Discord is pretty damn good too. Oh and what fun was it to post this with the spam filter here. Please read the rules, we want posts not too short... not too long! *whacks hands with ruler*

>>50473 >proper news platforms shove just as much ideology in my face So you just traded out agenda based bias for racial bias? Ok.

I usually hear it from someone or if I really need to read it on my own I will go to 68k.news

>>58518 >All non-approved news sources are racist It's amazing how conditioned people are now.

>>55065 >This is very theorical. And correct. If you want to know if someone is left or right ask them, do you think some people are better than others? A righty will give the "Yes." chad meme. A lefty will cry for 10 minutes and call you racist. >In reality, the left get their vote from people who benefit from government taxing the working people and the right get vote from people who have a hard time to make end meets because of the taxes. You are just describing how Left and slightly less Left operate in our current democracy. Politics is more than that.

>current year plus seven >still voting >still thinking voting matters what, how did this happen, what did they do to you?

>>58542 I didn't say that all non "agenda based bias" news sources were racist, just pol. Stop being an NPC and realize that everything isn't black and white.

>>58590 >I didn't say that all non "agenda based bias" news sources were racist Any information source not approved by the establishment is "racist". That's the narrative you are falling into whether you realize it or not. >just pol It's just user content. Unless the mods make an active effort to censor non-racist posts. Or are you arguing that one racist post makes the whole site racist? Nigger nigger nigger. >Everyone who disagrees with me is an NPC You're the one who's been programmed to panic at the mention of "racism".

>>50489 >Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA! I will never guess what triggers this to the worldfilter.

I get my news from reddit. I'm not joking. I'm kind of in a hole right now, with regards to my life. What I really need is self-improvement, not awareness of worldly matters, so yeah, a quick peek through reddit is enough to curb my curiosity. Then it's back to work.

>>58591 This whole post was to make yourself feel better because you don't know how to not interpret someone as an extreme side of an opinion. You are an NPC, deal with it.

>>58518 Fairly certain that normal person news sources have racial bias, too. You can see it in their hiring practices, how they report on crime, how they choose to capitalize or not capitalize certain words, what holidays they celebrate. Yadda yadda yadda. There's quite a lot of racial bias in the world, frankly race and agenda are too closely linked to say there's one without the other.

>>58596 This is true. Unfortunately though with any news outlet being mostly lies and half truths you kinda just have to either pick one that shoves the least amount of opinions down your throat or gain access to research papers and construct it yourself. The point of my sentence was just wondering why you would trade out news with some (varying) journalistic integrity with a bunch of retards that smash "nigger" and "jew" repeatedly into a keyboard because they think it's funny.

>>58593 A good first step is to leave Reddit and learn how to manage stress.

>>58595 >no your the NPC! Ok dude. >>58597 >why you would trade out news with some (varying) journalistic integrity >a bunch of retards that smash "nigger" and "jew" repeatedly into a keyboard because they think it's funny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

"le racist" used to be an excellent immune system against n0rmies who see haram and run. Same for gore threads but gore pics are more effort than brewing soykaf. Its pointless now though cause its getting sh1lled by various countries as it was identified to have more impact than plebbit. That said despite all that you can find more intelligent discussion there than on plebbit where its easier to control flow with botted upvotes. With all that said there are still some regular news sources that do a better job and that will prolly continue to be good because they shouldnt become important enough to get infiltrated too.

>>58602 >you can find more intelligent discussion there than on plebbit where its easier to control flow with botted upvotes. Reddit is just an interactive propaganda farm. Users are trained how to think about various issues through the upvote/downvote system (which is ultimately controlled by reddit servers, not fellow users).

>>50448 China uncensored/ American uncoverd

>>58603 >the upvote/downvote system (which is ultimately controlled by reddit servers, not fellow users). The fact that most people think the votes are coming from their peers and not reddit itself is probably why it works so well for shaping people's opinions.

>>58597 I'm not the guy who initially brought up 4paul, but am the guy you were replying to here. >why would you trade a news source with perhaps a smidge or two of journalistic integreity for channel four's slur filled drivel extravaganza First of all, characterizing 4paul as a bunch of retards who just shout about jews and niggers is unfair. 4paul (at least in its good days) is a pretty diverse place with many people of different opinions. Its fairly well distributed geographically so on some types of stories you can get immediate in person coverage (I recall the Notre Dame Paris fire, for instance, had multiple anon's running around on the ground taking photos) that doesn't compare unfavourably to mainstream news sources. Of course most of it, like I imagine read-it, is basically commentary, reposting of news stories and blog posts and blog comments and links to twatteur threads, so its a fairly reflexive aggregator that pulls in material more than it produces (to be fair in comparing it to many news agencies republish aypee/rooters stories, and lately even 'serious' news orgs through out a fair few articles that amount to 'lets see what twatteur has to say about this'). That being said, for stories that spark its interest, its not a bad aggregator. Its frequently pretty fast, pulls in from a wide range of sources, and fairly frequently pretty decent ones. Its not well organized enough to present a single story, honest or dishonest, so it just presents a cacophany of material and leaves it to you to try and sort it out. Its not that bad imho, if you're willing to wade through the bulk of the poasts that are relatively meaningless, and don't mind the slurs and fowl language. >alternate choice is to just read research papers consider the ukraine war. Are there research papers about it right now that will get you relatively uptodate info about anything ? I'm pretty sure there arent, but there are 4threads discussing it and they'll get updated as soon as anyone notices something exciting habbening. If you're talking about i.e. science journalism where maybe this is more relevant, then sure, and 4paul isn't very good in that area most of the time. I'm at the point where I'm suspicious enough of academia that I'd not place too much faith in research papers either, so I try to just treat everything skeptically if I don't know better.

I don't like the opinionated perspectives journalists shove down my throat (i.e. censored publications) because they have a hard time delivering bibliographies with their publications, but I do like it when people around me do it. So I generally limit mainstream "news" consumption by only letting it originate from other people, because people like to talk about absurd soykaf that happened and then we can just talk about whatever aspect seems most relevant. There are some talkshows though in my country that bring in interesting views or a bit more esoteric topics to be discussed with experts or relevant people in that field, which I sometimes watch (depends on who's invited to talk mostly). I do consume a lot of recent publications, but through email notifications. That started because of the bibliography problem, and I do want to be kept in the loop of events in national politics. I found that my government publishes all their documents on their website, and also include the possibility of being kept up to date through email newsletters. And they do reference their sources. So I created another mail address for newsletters. Because of the decent references, the email address grew into a dump for newsletters allover. Now I'm registered to a lot of NGO's newsletters, supra-national financial institutions, non-profits and investigative journalist websites. Its more or less an RSS reader, but since that never really integrated with the NPCs, mails are a nice alternative, since it can also include promotional material from businesses that want to sell their crap for cheap. The newsletters have really expanded my horizon on what is going on in a lot of institutions and with what they concern themselves with, but leaves out what "the public" thinks of whatever is produced, which is what mainstream news generally does imo. Besides this I collect & scan fringe (political) telegram groups to keep tabs on the outgroup idiot's world views, this also includes some news occasionally BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS!!!!!!111!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!!!.

>>50448 We've lived in a post-truth sphere for a while now. I don't get my news.

>>58645 this is more correct than most are aware of. Around 2005 somewhere i saw news on reddit how they changed the law that legalized propaganda in murrica. Before they were forbidden to lying to their own public. They argued then due to modern online war we cant lie to enemies without lying to our own public so you gotta legalize and they got their way. And of course europe is just a province of modern rome usa so it suffers from it too as it gets its culture from us. Easiest example is the blm protests in europe because of a dude that got killed in us.

>>58646 Yup the Smith-Mundt Act is what you're thinking of, and it was overturned in 2013. It made things far worse but it was still bad, as the media was still coordinated by sponsor and committee, relying on a couple news wires, with hired mockingbird CIA, all ran by CEOs with, in many ways, closely aligned goals. The media still served the purpose to emotionally manipulate, confuse, and disinform by sophistry and lies such omitting important context. And yet, the internet got away from them, and independent and fringe journalists have been elevating their standard of knowledge and evidence-based reporting. Just because legacy media still manages to find new lengths to go downhill doesn't mean being informed is dead... but it's hard to argue against just being tuned out and distrustful. The middle ground between that and being a nerd seems to me to be the most harmful.

>>58645 this is incredibly dumb and youre probably just an edge lord. There's always a Truth, the fact that the (((news))) doesn't report Truthfully doesn't destroy that fact. It doesn't help finding it, sure, but thats life. And yes, the government is doubtless lieing to you. They've done that for a long time, so what. It just means they're lieing. Doesn't change the world one smidge.

>>58648 post-truth stands for "accepted lies replaced truth mostly if not completly". Its not just the news. The place of discussion is now the internet and the most popular places all practice censorship. The truth is not tolerated, it is branded as misinformation and deleted.

>>58649 and pray tell when has it not been arguably so ? fairly certain not in my life time. At any rate, if your definition is fairly the case then thats a horribly coined term that almost makes you think it was planted by someone seeking to mislead you its so terribly misdirecting.

>>58650 Go back just a decade and the internet had more freedom and less censorship. The tech for bots and other manipulation methods were simply not available and lawmakers also took their sweet time to implement mandatory censoring laws. Not to mention that simply by having people spread around more platforms it was harder to control the entirety of it. Nowadays you can control western public opinion with just 4 sites. As for the terminology - im not the original guy nor did i invent it. Its just how i observe it being used.

>>58652 You're thinking from the perspective of mass consumption, which is completely a different story from what's available, not to mention mass consumption itself has been changing radically as of late. Propaganda would have most thinking otherwise, though.

>just go back a decade; the internet was decent in ~2012 OK, so for a golden moment between the Dawn of Twitter and its ilk in, say, 2008, and the Daily Stormer's Hosting Woes of 2017, we had the Age of Truth in which a platform, in this case the Internet, was both Popular and relatively undercensored (one might even say, unCLAMPED) ? Before that all we had was TV which is soykaf of course, and newspapers which are generally soykef, plus the radio. And since then we've had nothing worth noting ? alright I guess. This really just feels like its about freespeech/propoganda though, not Truth. To be fair I guess its not your definition and more topical to the thread.

>>50482 90% of it is mostly just retards outrage farming now like >>50484 >>50473

>>58653 >>58654 Mass consumption is exactly what this is about. Banning the truth from popular channels makes it harder to find not to mention that society is steered by what the majority believes to be true. This is the present stage. We are however not in the final stage. Once chatbots get sufficient advanced you will have no fringes to hide in because they will be there too to waste your time correcting your "wrong opinion" which is a stated goal of chatbot developers in press releases. The ultimate goal of a post-truth is that you cant find the truth nor tell it apart from all the lies which disempowers people who manage to find refugees to publish truth.

>>58657 come off it lad. Nobody ever cared about "truth" All they cared about was some easy to swallow story that could be true. Image boards are as bad as any media and it's not because of bots. You get autismo sperg 9000 as a mod and your not going to be allowed to post anything that makes his truth look stupid.

>>58657 I'll level with you and say I'm utterly blackpilled about the situation, though that discussion would be a bit more of a big picture one that I think we don't need to move to. For sure, a lot has been stacked to keep the general public ignorant, but that includes what the general public is doing. Barring any positing why this is happening, many typical normal people are feeling starved of a coherent explanation for the things they are being ordered to care heavily about, and increasingly are turning to non-legacy sources to sate their need to understand. Given enough time, fringe is no longer fringe. JFK, 9/11, mass spying programs, and so on enter mainstream and hit dinner table discussions. Leaving legacy media leaves one feeling marooned and excluded, and aside that being a mechanism to keep people in, it also builds people that find others outside towards community. The discussions hit the dinner table. With less loyalty to any given source, the process of starvation becomes more focused and particular, and newer sources are found. This process does not happen overnight. But, I ask you, reflect on how your political awareness has changed. How has Lainchan's awareness changed? The thing about lying is the most hopeful thing you can do is hope the victim forgets, otherwise you have no choice but to build more lies upon lies. The breakneck pace modern news works towards the former, but they fuarrrked up and they've set themselves in many ways toward the latter. People are noticing. I don't think truth is dying, it's actually growing. Awareness is growing. I'm just worried about plan C.

>>58660 the only thing that happened is guys like >>50482 most people know it's bullshit so they stopped caring and focus on other important things or start believing in stupid soykaf because some numnuts made a website. Linking 20 obscure websites made by some mentally ill fuarrrks doesn't help with truth and the only awareness is that people realized politics is bullshit.

>>58661 Hey, I'll take disillusionment as a victory too. :) And those mentally ill fuarrrks are far better than legacy media, and stepping stones to true heavyweights. I don't mind pointing some Alex Jones fan towards the right direction to speed up the process. Politics may just be acting for ugly people, but that charade ain't for nothing. Not gonna belabor my point any further though, so good day.

>>58662 >I win you lose boy please you never cared about truth. You just wanted somebody to validate your opinion and stroke your ego.

>>58662 alex is actually a good example of the truth getting lost along the way. When they made a joke of him talking about "they making the frogs gay" the reality was there was actually a corp pumping unfiltered chemicals into the water that changed the sexual development of the frogs. He memed it down to "frogs gay" which isnt accurate but still closer to reality than msm "alex wrong nothing to see here" and this is still a topic thats easy to understand. The average consumer is hopelessly lost when

>>58664 he talked about that because he's whole gimmick was selling water filters. He's the perfect example of selling easy to follow storys to morons. Stop thinking being a contrarian makes you special.

>>58667 i dont see you disproving my point, msm displayed the situation even worse than him

>>58669 what was your point? People who watch alex jones are better off than the people who watch some other big news outlet? Because if it is your just proving my point, being contrarian doesn't make you special.

>where do lainons get their news from We really have come to a point where what was supposed to be factual information has now become to where it's YOUR news, It's YOUR facts. Truth has become nothing more than someone opinion and no matter where you get YOUR facts and YOUR news from it's never correct and you just need to "do your own research." We just play this ego game of arguing over opinions and interpretations so we can get that ego boost when the other person gets sick of it and leaves. Most of us here know better than this but that's what most other people do and it's kinda fuarrrked up.

>>59203 this is a dumb and absurd argument that's already been stated in various forms. stop shi//ing, shi//. Facts are Facts. Truth is Truth. Simple as.

They are aggregating news and give you three sides (left, center, right) for each topic https://www.allsides.com although it might be questionable how do they choose who is one what side and how "far" into that bias are they.

>>59224 Noo but what if TO ME everyone has three eyes and likes to reqd Ayn Rand? My facts are just as valid as your facts becaude nothing is true and I have standing despite being a compete imbecile!

>>58654 >just go back a decade; the internet was decent in ~2012 What if in 2011 the higgs boson didn't just damage the hlc but destroyed reality as we know it and we've all been living in a chaotic purgatory ever since. >>59226 >They are aggregating news and give you three sides (left, center, right) for each topic Show me a site with an article about workers seizing the means of production and guillotining CEOs on the factory floor, beside an article about having a lifetime president who will secure the border and evict all wogs. Now that would be "all sides" reporting.

>>59235 retarded, there is also no soykaf from stormfront or whatever it was, its about mainstream/close to mainstream sources also all commies should be hanged

>>59237 >its about mainstream/close to mainstream sources picrel >>59235

>>59238 you seriously hopped for anything more than mainstream and whatever is close to it? they could possibly get sued for putting any of major news side by side which real far left/right sites im doubting there is any news page that display such views and is anywhere close to being widely known i would like to see wider comparison of views although i think you can send them site and they might add it

>>59224 You only hear what other people tell you and assume its factual and true because you cant verify yourself. Most of the soykaf thats taken as facts is just hearsay and yes publications are no different. Writing it down doesnt make it true. People get frequently caught fabricating their entire studies while pocketing money.

>>59203 Diy - - - Do Your Own Research

>>59243 >Diy - - - Do Your Own Research Im not a english PHD but I'm pretty sure that's not what DIY stands for.

>>50541 Rateyourmusic and leftypol is filled with glitterboys who write like this... why?

>>50448 > media is all propaganda. > that's how it gets its funding. > there is no news source that isn't straight up lies. Seconded, found this out myself the hard way. It turns out that the "right wing conspiracy theorists" that everyone laughed at were telling the truth the whole time and it really is all the fault of the Rothschilds and the Federal Reserve system. Here's a graph showing why Wikipedia is bullshit.

>>60107 Best guess: they know you can't get through two whole paragraphs and therefore will be reduced to meaningless ad hominem replies rather than make a valid criticism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events https://news.ycombinator.com/

>>50448 current charts & books which are published fifty years prior; i make news through sock puppets to create news

>>60122 fallacy chart is cancer to society because all the secondaries who never learned latin don't understand its only meant for strict moral reasoning. It was never meant for regular life use. I.E. ad hominem is valid criticism, is someone is on payroll its sufficient to point it so nobody wasted time with them as you will never convince a corp drone to talk against their employer.

>>60473 I'd say it's more a of a logic thing: a fallacy can't be used as a proof for your thesis, but that doesn't mean it's wrong or useless either. I mean, otherwise, any field using the concept of statistics and tendencies (i.e. all of them) would fall under "slippery slope".

>>50448 the voice in the wall

>>58662 >I don't mind pointing some Alex Jones fan towards the right direction to speed up the process Do you want to share with me what news sources do you share with Alex Jones fans?

>>58647 >>58644 Would you please share what sites of fringe/independent journalists you follow? I would be very grateful if you shared them

>>50448 I legitimately trust places like 4chan to give me a more honest picture of the world than mainstream media. At least if it's inaccurate it's just some internet dipshit who has the wrong idea, instead of it being intentionally wrong or misleading to try and influence your thoughts and opinions as part of the grand global conspiracy to enslave everyone. Read less mainstream news and read more imageboards.

>>61222 Grand Theft World and Unlimited Hangout are the two I IRL will recommend among many sources. GTW is a 6-8 hour weekly podcast with the goal is to provide a 'time-capsule' and cover everything important from the past week, provides historical context for the news, promotes critical thinking such as use of the trivium method and spotting fallacious communication, and really pushes their viewers towards not just the previously mentioned but also to do their own research emphasizing books to enrich historical context (works of Carroll Quigley, John Taylor Gatto, Rockefeller Archives, and many others). They feature a ton of content creators so you can find many more news sources from there. Unlimited Hangout provides long-form history and analysis in focus of the technocratic agenda. The articles are the star of the show here but Whitney Webb does a podcast as well. The content is some of the deepest and thorough coverage you'll find anywhere in journalism, far and above anything else out there.

http://n-gate.com/ but it's pretty dead now ;(

>>54273 >Putin send a lot of troop to the Ukrainian border? Forget the fact that he has done that for 10 years, he want to invade. this aged poorly, lol.

>>61224 >At least if it's inaccurate it's just some internet dipshit who has the wrong idea, instead of it being intentionally wrong or misleading to try and influence your thoughts and opinions as part of the grand global conspiracy to enslave everyone. 4chan and the politically incorrect board in particular is more than likely botted to hell and back by hobbyists and glowies alike. I think the only real way to get an "honest picture" is to build a network of friends who are those kinds of people

>>61468 Yeah, it took me, the Russian generals and the Russian conscript by surprise. Putin have spent a decade building an hybrid war, having pawns on the grounds with a casus belli and escalating tensions and they just had to find money in their pockets and entire convoys of weapons laying on the ground and to have "international volunteers" mostly made of "former" Russian soldiers to start a civil war for the independence of the part of Ukraine rich in gas. This preparation was executed perfectly. Unlike the pseudo democratic fighters in Syria made up by the west, they did a good job at preparing this war and it should have been used as an example in manuals. And then he sent the army. Without fuel, with cheap tires, without radios, without plans for anything. Seriously. >>61469 It is a food fight and was meant to be one. So far, bored teenagers who can't score a girl defeated all the best hobbyists money can buy. I love it.

>>54309 PS. I've learned a lot since I made this post. dissentwatch.com isn't extreme enough and nationalvanguard shouldn't really be counted as a "News Site". I really don't think there is a proper news outlet that aligns with a Fascist worldview,,, currently. Some comrades of mine have informed me that there's one in the works but unfortunately all the existing ones are of the movementarian (alt-right) crowd which is desperately trying to appeal to Republicans. The problem is exactly that news and politics are directly related. News outlets will always be encoded with biased and manipulated language according to their writers and because of that I cannot take any of it seriously. Respond with a Discord tag if anyone wants to talk in private :)

>>50448 The places I've used over the years are no longer useful. I even installed Bypass Paywalls Clean etyension to see what Barron's, a service that I have had a subscripion for as a teenager. It wasn't worth the effort. Recently-the past 5 years-, I would browse 4chan, raddle.me, 8chan, poal.co, voat.co, and newsletters for scraps. Mostly all garbage now that scrape reddit. The only thing I bother with now is Lexisnexis, https://www.databricks.com, dailymail.co.uk, lobste.rs. news.ycombinator.com, tradingview.com

can't read reuters anymore what do?

>>61768 you can use something like 12ft io you could also just change your user agent for one that google is using >reuters not really a good source tho

>>61768 Bypass pawywalls clean, 12ft.io/, archive.org, or a useragent change. What works and what doesn't changes by website.